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Players you are targeting....Players you are avoiding (1 Viewer)

bulger2holt

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Let's hear it. Lot's of knowledgable people in here

I'm talking about players close to their ADP

 
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I will never draft DMC again. As George W Bush said...

Fool me once, shame on me... Fool me twice, shame on.... If you get fooled you can't get fooled again. haha

 
Gerhart, Allen, and Gronk.

...for the right price I will draft people(sjax, dmac, cj2k)that sucked for my teams in the past.

 
Targeting: Julio Jones, Greg Jennings, Chris Johnson, Jordan Cameron, and Tom Brady

Avoiding: Doug Martin, Arian Foster, Vernon Davis, Cordarrelle Patterson, and Colin Kaepernick

 
Assuming Re-Draft Values for 2014 "close" to ADP

Targeting:

Adrian Peterson
Arian Foster
Demaryius Thomas
Julio Jones
Montee Ball
C.J. Spiller
Trent Richardson
Rashad Jennings
Torrey Smith
Robert Griffin III
Jeremy Maclin
Bishop Sankey
Toby Gerhart
Hakeem Nicks
Dennis Pitta
Kyle Rudolph
Tavon Austin
Jordan Reed

Avoiding:

Jamaal Charles
Marshawn Lynch
Peyton Manning
Zac Stacy
Le’Veon Bell
Alfred Morris
Reggie Bush
Ben Tate
Julian Edleman
Cordarelle Patterson
Reggie Wayne
Sammy Watkins
Knowshon Moreno
Eric Decker
Danny Woodhead
Riley Cooper

 
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Targeting

Julio Jones - I trust Dr. Jene's opinion that the foot is less likely to be a problem than people think.

Toby Gerhart - Should get a crapload of touches, more athletic than people give him credit for.

RG3 - Fully healthy ready to be better than his rookie season when he was awesome.

Tom Brady - everyone was hurt last year, had a ton of guys tackled inside the 5. This tends to even out.

Greg Jennings - was surprisingly good in the 2nd half, I like Bridgewater, I'm skeptical of Corderalle's ability to run routes.

Mike Wallace - comically inept offense last year, was open more than you think but Tanny missed him.

Avoiding

2nd tier RBs - I'm not sure what to think, I think the bust rate is higher than normal, the WRs seem safer.

Jordan Cameron - They could throw 40% less passes this year, new offense and no Josh G adds uncertainty.

Doug Martin - I've never been a fan of his talent compared to others.

Matthew Stafford - I like the guy but the cost is too high for me. Top 3 or wait forever, imo.

 
Targeting: Gronk in the 3rd, Mathews in the 4th, Benjamin in 10th, Devonta Freeman in the 11th

Avoiding: Foster, SJax, Tate

 
Assuming Re-Draft Values for 2014 "close" to ADP

Targeting:



Adrian Peterson

Arian Foster

Demaryius Thomas

Julio Jones

Montee Ball

C.J. Spiller

Trent Richardson

Rashad Jennings

Torrey Smith

Robert Griffin III

Jeremy Maclin

Bishop Sankey

Toby Gerhart

Hakeem Nicks

Dennis Pitta

Kyle Rudolph

Tavon Austin

Jordan Reed



Avoiding:



Jamaal Charles

Marshawn Lynch

Peyton Manning

Zac Stacy

LeVeon Bell

Alfred Morris

Reggie Bush

Ben Tate

Julian Edleman

Cordarelle Patterson

Reggie Wayne

Sammy Watkins

Knowshon Moreno

Eric Decker

Danny Woodhead

Riley Cooper
Holy cow. Totally agree with this list.
 
Get Patterson, do yourself a favor. Especially in KR/PR yd leagues like mine. And especially Dynasty

 
Going by FFC ADP (non-ppr):

Target
33 Gronk
47 Andre Johnson *
52 Chris Johnson
68 Steven Jackson *
71 Griffin
74 Colston
83 Newton

92 Pitta
94 Cooks
99 Moreno
113 Tavon Austin

114 DeAngelo Williams

118 Benjamin
120 Ertz
140 Stewart

145 Martellus Bennett
156 Bradshaw
158 Greg Jennings *
165 Hunter

Avoid
26 Stacy
35 Allen
37 Garcon
46 Crabtree
50 Patterson *
55 Luck *
56 Floyd
57 Vernon Davis *
60 Joique Bell
70 Edelman *

Pretty strange for Edelman to be going ahead of Colston, J Bell ahead of Steven Jackson, Patterson within a few picks of Andre Johnson, Luck two rounds ahead of Newton.

 
ADP is all over the place, depending on where you mock. I'm targeting T West, L Miller, B Pierce, Spiller, P Harvin, James Jones, E Sanders.and avoiding M Ball, A Morris, W Welker, Manning, Rodgers, & Brees.

 
Get Patterson while you can. Especially if your in a KR/PR YDG league or dynasty. Hes bigger, & about as explosive if not more than Randall Cobb. I saw the article comparing the two, but if Patterson was in Cobbs spot, having Rodgers throwing to him... Patterson would put up the better numbers. Imo. He surpassed the "eye test" more than a few times for me last year.

 
Grab Keenan Allen too. Yes, I own both in my biggest dynasty league :homer:

Numbers don't lie though. Rivers' #1 WR is bound to grab 5-10 catches a game & 100 yds +++ and - about 20. So 80 yards a game I predict for Allen at very least, per game. Remember VJax? ALLEN seems to be headed north on the WR list.

Patterson might not have the best QB, But who knows. Having the ability to run the ball also changes his game number wise. Put Patterson in motion and watch out. Bridgewater could surprise us. If not Cassel, who can put up decent QB numbers too.

 
Targeting

Julio Jones - I trust Dr. Jene's opinion that the foot is less likely to be a problem than people think.

Toby Gerhart - Should get a crapload of touches, more athletic than people give him credit for.

RG3 - Fully healthy ready to be better than his rookie season when he was awesome.

Tom Brady - everyone was hurt last year, had a ton of guys tackled inside the 5. This tends to even out.

Greg Jennings - was surprisingly good in the 2nd half, I like Bridgewater, I'm skeptical of Corderalle's ability to run routes.

Mike Wallace - comically inept offense last year, was open more than you think but Tanny missed him.

Avoiding

2nd tier RBs - I'm not sure what to think, I think the bust rate is higher than normal, the WRs seem safer.

Jordan Cameron - They could throw 40% less passes this year, new offense and no Josh G adds uncertainty.

Doug Martin - I've never been a fan of his talent compared to others.

Matthew Stafford - I like the guy but the cost is too high for me. Top 3 or wait forever, imo.
i like this list. I like cameron howeverband will target him. Im avoiding rashad jennings and mathews like the plague. I dont like either backs injury history. At their adp ill pass.
 
Steals:

Montee Ball - A ballet dancing grizzly bear on Peyton Manning's offense.

Steven Jackson - Demise greatly exaggerated, reminiscent of Michael Turner.

Emmanuel Sanders - Underrated player talent-wise. Decker-like results wouldn't surprise me.

Tom Brady - Likely bounce back, after everything went wrong last season.

Colston - Product of the system, but reliable.

 
Rip Offs:

Rookie WRs - New-toy syndrome often clouds the mind. Rookie wide-outs always have too high ADP for my liking.

Zac Stacy - Last season a product of volume, which could diminish with the new arrival.

Julius Thomas - Very touchdown dependent last season, dubious to depend on a repeat of such high TD rate.

Shane Vereen - I can't bring myself to count on a horse on Bill Belichick's running back carousel.

 
AVOID:

QBs:

Newton - Another Top 4 finish seems unlikely. In the very least, expect his week-to-week numbers to be too inconsistent to warrant his ADP given his new receiving core.

Peyton - Not a chance he repeats last years numbers, especially with one of the hardest schedules in the league. See a regression of 15-20 touchdowns (so, 35-40 total) and 500-800 yards (4700-5000) - both of which will cause him not to live up to 1st/2nd round billing.

RBs:

Charles -Lost 3 oline starters and has one of the toughest schedules this year (as opposed to one of the easiest last year). Also, expect a regression on TDs, as 19 is certainly not a number anyback can be expected to repeat. Should still be a lock to be top 10 barring injury, but I will be looking elsewhere with a top 3 pick.

Murray/Mathews- Given their ADPs (esp Murray), one healthy season after years of injury riddled ones do is not enough to persuade me injuries are a thing of the past. Do not like Mathews reception outlook either.

Bush - Another injury waiting to happen. Dont see him repeating last years rushing attempts with J. Bell firmly entrenched with him in a RBBC. Upside is too limited.

J. Bell - Upside limited as well. Lions will not have enough rushing attempts in total to make him anything higher than a low RB2, if that.

Ray Rice - Way too many question marks at this point.

WRs:

AJ Green - With changing of offensive philosophy, I dont see him as a lock for Top 5 WR numbers.

Keenan Allen - Cant pinpoint it, but I feel like we might have seen his ceiling, esp. if SD continues to go run-heavy.

Welker - One concussion away from retirement. Sanders going to eat up more of his targets than Decker did.

Crabtree - Unless he has an outlier-amount of TD receptions (a la V Davis last year), the Niners wont have enough attempts to get him the numbers associated with his ADP.

TEs:

Julius Thomas - Imminent scoring regression from offense will hurt him, as he will not put up the yards to offset it. Also an injury risk.

TARGETING:

QBs:

Matt Ryan - everything went wrong last year and he still put up top 12 numbers. Attempts should still be in the 620 range this year. As long as Julio and Roddy are healthy, I expect his numbers to rise to something to the tune of 4700/34 - top 5.

Jay Cutler - if he figures out a way to stay healthy for the full season (no small task), I dont see a scenario where he doesnt crack top 10 given his plethora of offensive talent. Especially targeting him in 2QB leagues.

Eli Manning - Again, more for 2QB leagues. New offensive scheme should bode well for him (higher completion %, less turnovers). Will be impossible for his #1(or #2) receiever to have 0 receiving TDs again (Nicks); should a solid WR core this year.

RBs:

AP - Norv Turner. More receptions.

Stacy - I think the pendulum has swung back too far the other way now. STL should have one of the best Olines in the league, and has a coach with a long history of loving to run the ball. Stacy proved he can handle the load last year. Should have 300+ touches, regardless of Mason.

Foster - Offense will not be any worse than last year. OBrien seems committed to Foster being a 3-down workhorse, esp. Awith letting Tate walk (A Brown is not an upgrade in my mind)-' Expect Foster to be rejuvenated (and keep in mind he was still running at a 4.5 ypc clip before he went down last year).

CJ Spiller - Given the LARGE amount of rush attempts(and plays) the Bills ran last year and will continue to do this year, I not see a scenario where Spiller gets less than 250. touches outside of injury. Obviously injury is a major concern, but he is worth a gamble with his low RB2 ADP and potential top-5 upside.

Gerhart - The talent is there. The volume should be there. Cant see him finishing below RB 15-20, with a full season's workload. If ADP rises to late second/early third, that would give me a littld more pause.

WRs:

Jordy Nelson - if this guy can ever play a full season again with Rodgers, he will be Top 5. Dont see why that cant happen this year, esp. with Jones/Finley gone. Expect targets/receptions to have a bump, while sustaining his great TD rate.

Calvin - With Tate now on the other side and another talented weapon at TE, I think he has the chance to put up 20+ TDs this year. Expect his YPR to increase, albeit with less catches/yards (still a lock for 85/1400+). Would consider him at #1 overall in PPR formats.

Dez Bryant - Scott Linehan. 15+ TDs is feasible.

Fitz - Played hurt almost the entire year last season, and still out up 10 TDs. YPR should see a bump along with better targets with Floyd commanding more attention. Offensive line is Greatly improved.

TEs:

Graham, Gronk (and maybe Cameron) or bust.

 
I'm targeting proven vets coming off down years with depressed values. Avoiding shiny new toys who's ADP is potentially inflated based on limited history.

Target

WR

V. Cruz - WR 14. Cruz now clearly Eli's best target. Return to WR1 territory a good possibility, especially in PPR.

L. Fitz - WR 19. Significantly hampered by injury in 2013 and still one of Top 5 receivers in the game IMO. 2nd year with Palmer.

Andre Johnson - I would be more worried if he wasn't PO'd about rebuilding. If he can do it with Schaub and Keenum he can do it with Fitzpatrick.

M. Colston - Perennial WR2 being drafted as a low-end WR3. Foot healthy. For those who like to hit singles and doubles on every pitch.

D. Bowe - WR42. Where do I sign up?

M. Wallace - WR28. Yes, please.

K. Britt - Great roll of dice in double digit rounds

RB

CJ Spiller - RB7 in 2012 on a PPG basis available in mid-3rd

S. Ridley - RB31. ADP pummeled by last year's fumble issues. Proven Top 10 potential. BB keeps giving him more chances, why shouldn't we?

DMC - RB41. Still young and if returns anywhere near proven form then will easily out-touch MJD and you will win your league

QB

J. Cutler - Has Top 5 upside in that offense with those weapons. Whole thread debating why but to me it's a no-brainer

RGIII - May not be an ADP steal but I'm all in this year. Talent, brains, surrounding cast and QB-friendly coach.

Avoid

WR

A. Brown - Too pricey at WR7. 2013 numbers of 110 recpts/1500 yds should regress. Would rather have Cruz a full round later.

C. Patterson - Don't see upside being realized this year and too rich for my blood in 4th round. Being taken over Roddy White and DJax.

TY Hilton - WR24. Sorry, not with Wayne, Nicks and two healthy TE's now in the mix.

RB

R. Bush/J. Bell - I think people forget that M. Leshoure put up >1,000 total yards and 9TD's in 2012. He's back and will eat into Bush/Bell numbers.

R. Jennings - Not at RB21. JAG city.

TE

J. Thomas - More about ADP than talent. Early 3rd means people expecting repeat of 2013. But those numbers included 12 TD's which are notoriously unpredictable (ask J. Witten) and Peyton highly unlikely to throw 55. I'll pass in round 3 and take one of Davis/Cameron/Witten/Reed/Olsen in Rds 5-7.

QB

M. Stafford - Currently priced in no-man's land at end of 4th. Far too many other QB's with Top 5 potential available Rds 5-9.

Cam - Cupboard too bare at skill positions and decimated O-line. Staying away.

 
Targetting:

Bridgwater- I want this guy on my rosters.

K Allen- I see a floor I want to invest in.

Tolbert- I always target him as my last rb.

Avoiding:

Foster and most guys from Miami, Car, Oak, Clev, Jax.

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I am targeting

QB - Brady, RGIII, Cutler, Wilson, Ryan

RB - Spiller, Gerhart, Mason

WR - Nelson, Cruz, Wallace

TE - Gronkowski, Olsen

I am avoiding

QB - Newton, Stafford, Luck

RB - Stacy, Ball, Martin, C Johnson

WR - Garcon, Crabtree

TE - V Davis, Cameron

 
Targeting:

QB

Matt Ryan - No real running game and coming off a year when his WRs were all using walkers. Add Jake Matthews at LT and he seems primed to put up numbers

Sam Bradford - Big surprise from a Rams fan, I know. But his numbers were quite good before his injury and his ADP is off the (bottom of the) charts. Not a great floor due to injury concerns, but a higher ceiling than anyone from 15 on down.

RB

Zac Stacy - Until someone explains why he will do less of what he did behind an improved O-line, I see no reason to pass on a low-end RB1 at the end of the second round

Bishop Sankey - The situation just seems to prime. I'll pay the rookie-hype premium.

Stevan Ridley - Good enough that Billy Boy can't keep him on the bench, even with all those fumbles. If they have to keep going back to him, I'll do it too.

WR

Julio Jones - A coin flip between him and D Thomas for #2 on my board right now. If he's healthy, he's going to cash in from all over the field.

C Patterson - Betting on the 2nd year breakout in a Norv Turner offense

R Randle - Another young WR who has shown flashes and finally gets his time on the first team

TE

J Cameron - I really don't like Johnny Goofball, but there have to be some touchdowns on this team somewhere, and Gordon just flamed out, so...

D Pitta - BYU homer. But I am in a league with other BYU homers, so I probably will miss out on him

D

St Louis - They've done what they've done the past two years without a defensive coordinator. Now they get one of the best. Off the chart sack totals and the increase of turnovers that come with it. It makes me... well, kids may be reading this.

Avoiding:

QB

RG3 - Just too much injury risk due to his playing style. The offense may suit him better, but until I see how he looks not running around like crazy, I can't pay for him

Cam Newton - He has nobody to throw to.

RB

D Murray - I just see the wheels falling off in Dallas this year.

CJ Spiller - Nothing about his circumstances has improved all that much. Plus, I got burned by him last year.

Trent Richardson - He just reeks of someone who has checked out mentally. The Colts will have to do it all without him this season.

WR

Dez Bryant - That thing I said about the wheels falling off in Dallas? Yeah. Bryant will likely still pay out, but at where he's being taken, I can't overcome my Dallas aversion.

P Harvin - If you could convince me he'd play 13 games, he'd be on my target list.

J Edelman - There is no ace receiver on the Pats. I am not gonna invest a pick in trying to figure out who is highest on the pecking order there. It may be Edelman, but the passes will be distributed too thin for me to want to jump in that pool.

TE

Gronkowski - See Harvin

All the rookies - None of them thrill me with the offenses they are tied to, even Ebron

D

Seattle - They will still be a monstrous D, maybe still the top-rated. But that price tag is getting ludicrous.

 
Targeting:

J. Edelman - in his last 8 games, Edelman caught 69 passes for 729 yards,and 5 TDs and two 2-pt conversions..he also caught 70% of the passes thrown his way. source: fantasyindex.

extrapolate over a full season, it's 138 recs,1498 yards, 11td.Now, I know he won't accomplish these numbers, but he's most certainly a lock for 110+ recs..over the years, the Pats kept forcing others into the lineup, and Welker still kept pulling down 100+ recs - five of his last 6 seasons in NE to be exact..Gronk, Chad Johnson, Hernandez - none seemed to affect Welker's ability to catch over 100 balls/yr. the same will be true with Edelman.Amendola is a joke, Gronk is probably finished as a top player - he just can't stay healthy..who is left,Dobson? LaFell?! seriously?

Matt Ryan - elite-level QB who is due for a bounce back season.

Tre Mason

Andre Williams - Rashard Jennings as a starting RB ? that'll last about 2 games..

R. Cobb

C. Palmer

Carolina Defense

T. West - should be Cleveland's starting RB by week 2. Ben Tate won't last.

Ray Rice - big season coming!

Joe Flacco - see Rice - and have a look at Schaub's #'s in a Kubiak offense while in Hou..Flacco is >>>> Schaub.

Luck

Nicks

Foles

Gio Bernard

ftake a wild hunch on Andre Brown in Houston.Foster is shot.

Avoiding

Cutler - avoiding him like the plague..mediocre talent at best. as someone else pointed out, his numbers projected over a full season would've put him at QB 12..in other words, worst starting QB in a 12-team league..you can do better.

he is an INT machine not unlike Eli..I'd rather have Rivers and his guaranteed 4500 yards, 32+ Tds, 11 INTs.or Foles and his high upside with a full year in that offense..but Cutler? hasn't played a full season since 2009, only once in his career, has he thrown for more than 3666 yards in a single season - 2008 denver. highest TD total of his career was 27, same season he tossed 26 picks...how anyone could consider him a valuable commodity is beyond me.let someone else take him.he's pure garbage.

M. Lynch - didn't know he had 403 touches, 366 carries last season, in total..we all know full well what happens to 400+ carry RB's in the year following - he's pretty close with 366.had 315 the year before..285 the year before that..should begin to take it's toll at some point..

Arian Foster - for obvious reasons.

A. Morris - RBBC coming to Washington - it's Jay Gruden's style..makes Helu an interesting bye week filler..

Trent Richardson - a bust of Epic proportions..

Frank Gore - too many Rb's in SF.

 
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Based on this thread (and honestly what I have seen in mocks as of late, does Gerhart break into the top 20 for RBs according to ADP?

 
Targeting (Auction)

QBs: Kaepernick, Ryan, Romo, Cutler, Palmer

RBs: Ellington, Jennings, Sankey, Gerhart, Miller

WRs: Bryant, Harvin, Patterson, Crabtree, Jennings, Colston

TEs: Cameron, Reed

DST: Rams, Bucs

Avoiding:

QBs: The top end

RBs: Morris, Stacy, Ball, Richardson

WRs: DeSean, Decker

TEs: Davis, Witten

 
Get Patterson while you can. Especially if your in a KR/PR YDG league or dynasty. Hes bigger, & about as explosive if not more than Randall Cobb. I saw the article comparing the two, but if Patterson was in Cobbs spot, having Rodgers throwing to him... Patterson would put up the better numbers. Imo. He surpassed the "eye test" more than a few times for me last year.
got it. You like patterson.
 
  • Arian Foster is going to be the swing player that win some people some leagues this year.
The vote on him seems to be majority vote and he's the kind of guy u can buy cheap and get top 10 production from...at RB no less. There aren't a lot of lottery tickets like that out there.

 
Long term likes are ASJ, A Jeffrey(I expect this year to be better than last), D Allen(I see a nice return from injury), J Hunter(finally starts to learn, still needs 1 more year to break out), J. Hill (takes over Law Firms carries and can catch better).

 

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