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Rent a Defense - Week 1 (1 Viewer)

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Plorfu

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I don't think it's too early for this. For those of us who don't draft a defense, what are you looking at for Week 1? With the usual suspects assumed drafted, here's a few that stand out (noting that Week 1 is even more of a crapshoot than other weeks, of course.)

Tampa Bay DEF v. Carolina

Philly DEF v. Jax

Tennessee DEF @ KC

Detroit DEF v. That Thing Known as the NYG "Offense."

Raiders and Jets vs. Each Other

Minnesota @ St. Louis

With the way the Giants have looked, Detroit seems like a good gamble.

 
Plorfu said:
Freelove said:
JShare87 said:
I like Pittsburgh at home against Hoyer and Kansas City at home against Tenessee.
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:thumbup: Though I don't think KC is on a lot of waiver wires.
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Right. Both of the above were drafted in my league, but I'd start there if they weren't.
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:shrug:

Was just going off your "usual suspects" comment. PIT is D/ST #16 by ADP right now.

I'm targeting them in drafts because the schedule is really juicy until their week 12 bye. Only the Colts loom as a really daunting matchup, and lots of plum matchups.

 
Plorfu said:
I don't think it's too early for this. For those of us who don't draft a defense, what are you looking at for Week 1? With the usual suspects assumed drafted, here's a few that stand out (noting that Week 1 is even more of a crapshoot than other weeks, of course.)

Tampa Bay DEF v. Carolina

Philly DEF v. Jax

Tennessee DEF @ KC

Detroit DEF v. That Thing Known as the NYG "Offense."

Raiders and Jets vs. Each Other

Minnesota @ St. Louis

With the way the Giants have looked, Detroit seems like a good gamble.
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I might be in the minority, but I don't know if Jacksonville is going to be that automatic matchup this year--the offense looked pretty solid, albeit in a preseason game.

 
Wasn't Pitt D pretty bad last year? Will Shazier make that much of a difference? What else have they done to improve?

 
Too early?

I hate the Texans after they burned me last year. However, their first 4 weeks look great on paper:

Wk 1 - Redskins

Wk 2 - Raiders

Wk 3 - Giants

Wk 4 - Bills

 
LawFitz said:
Wasn't Pitt D pretty bad last year? Will Shazier make that much of a difference? What else have they done to improve?
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Shazier looked awesome in the first preseason game. At LB they also added A. Moats via free agency and S. Spence appears to be fully back from his knee injury from 2 years ago. They also beefed up the dline in drafting S. Tuitt and signed C. Thomas from SD. And in the secondary they signed M. Mitchell from Carolina.

Now, I have no idea that these changes will make the D better for fantasy purposes or in actual NFL games, but I give the Steelers credit for making these changes and addressing all levels of the D.

 
Yea I'm all in on Houston to start the season.

Not just their schedule, but their defense as a whole. The rule emphasis is threatening the usefulness of defensive backs, thereby increasing the relative value of pass rush specialists. The new NFL is "Get to the QB quick or you're going to get burned by short/intermediate throws." Houston has arguably the most talented bookend DEs in Clowney and Watt. They are going to wreak havoc this year. Houston can afford to drop 7 into coverage against any good throwing opponent and rush with four. What was the last team to do that? 2011 Giants beat the (nearly) undefeated Packers by rushing 4 (with a healthy JPP) and dropping 7 into coverage. Houston is set up for success this year.

 
I don't understand how you don't draft a defense at all. I get flipping them each week but why wouldn't you draft one? Aren't you now just going to have to drop someone you actually drafted before the season starts to pick one up anyway?

I like the Steelers call too, solid choice.

 
Hu-Tang Clan said:
I don't understand how you don't draft a defense at all. I get flipping them each week but why wouldn't you draft one? Aren't you now just going to have to drop someone you actually drafted before the season starts to pick one up anyway?
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Yeah, but I figured I could wait a little while and see if one of my late round guys gets leap-frogged, hurt, etc. before deciding which one to drop.

 
I don't think the steelers are nearly the slam dunk everyone is making them out to be.

First off Cleveland and Pitt always play each other tough. And hoyer isn't a bad qb. He was actually really good in limited action last year (granted with josh Gordon). He still has Cameron, miles Austin, Hawkins, burleson and earl Bennett if I'm not mistaken. They might be old it they can still catch the ball and move the chains.

Plus their run game looks solid and they have a decent o line.

Pitt d will need time to gel with a bunch of new faces. I can easily see them screwing a lot of owners in week 1.

 
I like the lions vs nyg much better. I'm a huge giant fan and I'm sad to say it but I think that offense is going to be a freaking train wreck this season outside of rashad Jennings who will thrive with the dump off passes. It doesn't at all look like the offense has gelled with each other OR the new scheme.

 
rickyg said:
I like the lions vs nyg much better. I'm a huge giant fan and I'm sad to say it but I think that offense is going to be a freaking train wreck this season outside of rashad Jennings who will thrive with the dump off passes. It doesn't at all look like the offense has gelled with each other OR the new scheme.
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And the Monday night opening game dome crowd will be in a frenzy as long as the lions get on top early.

 
I'm not looking at the schedules for first week yet but I followed this thread suggestions last year and it was excellent. Thanks for starting it up again. :thumbup:

 
rickyg said:
I don't think the steelers are nearly the slam dunk everyone is making them out to be.

First off Cleveland and Pitt always play each other tough. And hoyer isn't a bad qb. He was actually really good in limited action last year (granted with josh Gordon). He still has Cameron, miles Austin, Hawkins, burleson and earl Bennett if I'm not mistaken. They might be old it they can still catch the ball and move the chains.

Plus their run game looks solid and they have a decent o line.

Pitt d will need time to gel with a bunch of new faces. I can easily see them screwing a lot of owners in week 1.
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Idk. the clowns never seem to play well in pittsburgh.

even with gordon last year they only combined to score 18 points in 2 games vs. pitt.

i dont think they light up the scoreboard thats for sure. especially if its a lot of running the ball.

but not sure i trust the steelers d to turn over the browns much either

just as a point of reference

2010 October 17 Steelers28–10 Heinz Field The Steelers wore their throwback uniform in this game.[7] This was Roethlisberger's 2010 debut after serving a 4 game suspension to begin the season. January 2 Steelers

41–9 Cleveland Browns Stadium 2011 December 8 Steelers

14–3 Heinz Field Thursday Night Football. Roethlisberger sprained ankle in first half, but came back hobbled in second half to lead Pittsburgh to victory. In fourth quarter, Browns defense holds on a goal-line stand, Ike Taylor makes critical end-zone interception and Roethlisberger finds Antonio Brown on deep pass play to seal the game. January 1 Steelers

13–9 Cleveland Browns Stadium Final game of the regular season for both teams 2012 November 25 Browns

20–14 Cleveland Browns Stadium The Browns defense forced eight turnovers (3 interceptions, 5 fumbles) in the Cleveland win. Charlie Batch started at quarterback for the Steelers in place of the injured Roethlisberger. December 30 Steelers

24–10 Heinz Field Final game of the regular season for both teams. Thad Lewis started for the Browns in place of the injured Weeden and McCoy. 2013 November 24 Steelers

27-11 FirstEnergy Stadium December 29 Steelers

20-7 Heinz Field Final game of the regular season for both teams

 
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LawFitz said:
Wasn't Pitt D pretty bad last year? Will Shazier make that much of a difference? What else have they done to improve?
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Shazier looked awesome in the first preseason game. At LB they also added A. Moats via free agency and S. Spence appears to be fully back from his knee injury from 2 years ago. They also beefed up the dline in drafting S. Tuitt and signed C. Thomas from SD. And in the secondary they signed M. Mitchell from Carolina.

Now, I have no idea that these changes will make the D better for fantasy purposes or in actual NFL games, but I give the Steelers credit for making these changes and addressing all levels of the D.
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They were still a low end DST1 last season. Not what we are used to, but they still finished in the top half of the league.

 
I didn't draft a D and am looking at Pitt at the best option on waivers. The way the Browns have looked this preseason, it seems like a slam dunk.

 
Any "rentals" who have juicy matchups past week 1 that we can can keep?

While I like the NYJ for week 1, I currently like New Orleans after week one through their bye. Anyone else have ideas?

New Orleans Schedule

1 @Atlanta

2 @Cleveland

3 Minnesota

4 @Dallas

5 Tampa Bay

6 BYE

7 @Detroit

 
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buddhacwru said:
Any "rentals" who have juicy matchups past week 1 that we can can keep?

While I like the NYJ for week 1, I currently like New Orleans after week one through their bye. Anyone else have ideas?

New Orleans Schedule

1 @Atlanta

2 @Cleveland

3 Minnesota

4 @Dallas

5 Tampa Bay

6 BYE

7 @Detroit
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I only see two worthy matchups here out of eight weeks.

 
Ilov80s said:
I didn't draft a D and am looking at Pitt at the best option on waivers. The way the Browns have looked this preseason, it seems like a slam dunk.
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buddhacwru said:
Any "rentals" who have juicy matchups past week 1 that we can can keep?

While I like the NYJ for week 1, I currently like New Orleans after week one through their bye. Anyone else have ideas?

New Orleans Schedule

1 @Atlanta

2 @Cleveland

3 Minnesota

4 @Dallas

5 Tampa Bay

6 BYE

7 @Detroit
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Houston through week 4 maybe 5 depending...

Wk2: Oak

Wk3: NYG

Wk4: BUF

Wki5: DAL - depends on Romo and his notorious pick 6's

 
Trying to decide between Pitt, Detroit, or Houston, leaning towards Detroit, should be loud and Elli should be good for a couple of picks

 
I like the bucs for the first two weeks.. Home games against car and STL. I think lovie smith and Leslie Frazier could turn this unit around.

 
ROYALWITCHEESE said:
Steeler said:
LawFitz said:
Wasn't Pitt D pretty bad last year? Will Shazier make that much of a difference? What else have they done to improve?
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Shazier looked awesome in the first preseason game. At LB they also added A. Moats via free agency and S. Spence appears to be fully back from his knee injury from 2 years ago. They also beefed up the dline in drafting S. Tuitt and signed C. Thomas from SD. And in the secondary they signed M. Mitchell from Carolina.

Now, I have no idea that these changes will make the D better for fantasy purposes or in actual NFL games, but I give the Steelers credit for making these changes and addressing all levels of the D.
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They were still a low end DST1 last season. Not what we are used to, but they still finished in the top half of the league.
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Pittsburgh finished 26th in my league last year. Still wondering if I should drop the Colts (11th) for them though to pair with Buffalo (8th).

 
Kind of out there but where we valuing buffalo? Defense was solid when paired right and they always get their sacks. Anyone thinking about using them against the bears?

 
I like Pittsburgh this year. Take a look at their schedule before the bye.

Cleveland

Baltimore

Carolina

TB

Jacksonville

Cleveland

Houston

Indy

Baltimore

NYJ

Tennessee

Got to drop them after the bye though unless KC's offense ends up being terrible which is possible.

 
Was listening to ESPN Radio over the weekend and John Clayton was listing his top 5 NFL defenses... Number 3 on his list was the New Orleans Saints after adding Byrd next to Vaccaro in the secondary with Kenan Lewis as a legit shutdown corner (played like one last year) and the Rob Ryan blitz schemes up front.

Cam Jordan became a star last year, and Clayton said this is the year Hicks joins him as a legit star on that d-line.

Brees and co creating huge leads allows the D to be super aggressive, leading to sacks and TOs. Loud dome for home games helps as well. Carolina and Tampa's offenses aren't too scary in division, and Atlanta has the passing game but not much OL to speak of...

Seriously makes me wonder if we're all sleeping on the Saints this year....

 
JFS171 said:
Was listening to ESPN Radio over the weekend and John Clayton was listing his top 5 NFL defenses... Number 3 on his list was the New Orleans Saints after adding Byrd next to Vaccaro in the secondary with Kenan Lewis as a legit shutdown corner (played like one last year) and the Rob Ryan blitz schemes up front.

Cam Jordan became a star last year, and Clayton said this is the year Hicks joins him as a legit star on that d-line.

Brees and co creating huge leads allows the D to be super aggressive, leading to sacks and TOs. Loud dome for home games helps as well. Carolina and Tampa's offenses aren't too scary in division, and Atlanta has the passing game but not much OL to speak of...

Seriously makes me wonder if we're all sleeping on the Saints this year....
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I don't think we are. :shrug:

They just get drafted too regularly to be part of a waiver wire plan, unless they get lit up by ATL week one.

 
Freelove said:
JFS171 said:
Was listening to ESPN Radio over the weekend and John Clayton was listing his top 5 NFL defenses... Number 3 on his list was the New Orleans Saints after adding Byrd next to Vaccaro in the secondary with Kenan Lewis as a legit shutdown corner (played like one last year) and the Rob Ryan blitz schemes up front.

Cam Jordan became a star last year, and Clayton said this is the year Hicks joins him as a legit star on that d-line.

Brees and co creating huge leads allows the D to be super aggressive, leading to sacks and TOs. Loud dome for home games helps as well. Carolina and Tampa's offenses aren't too scary in division, and Atlanta has the passing game but not much OL to speak of...

Seriously makes me wonder if we're all sleeping on the Saints this year....
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I don't think we are. :shrug:

They just get drafted too regularly to be part of a waiver wire plan, unless they get lit up by ATL week one.
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Maybe my experience differs then... On waivers in all my leagues.

 
ATSS_0100 said:
I like the bucs for the first two weeks.. Home games against car and STL. I think lovie smith and Leslie Frazier could turn this unit around.
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My sentiments exactly. With Lovie at the helm, I expect the defense to improve quite a bit.

 
I like the Jets vs Oak. You have a west coast team going to the east coast. You have a team that will either start an immobile qb with a shoddy arm in Schaub--or basically an unproven rookie that has never played a full game against a first team defense. Also--although I'm not a big fan of the Jets--they have historically been a pretty good defensive team.

 
yep. pit at home vs crappy cle

easy week 1 pick

and will be layin a healthy amount on the under

 
How would you rank these?

I currently have DEN, but plan on picking up another D for this week:

NO @ ATL

PIT vs CLE

NYJ vs OAK

CHI vs BUF

HOU vs WSH

 
JFS171 said:
Freelove said:
JFS171 said:
Was listening to ESPN Radio over the weekend and John Clayton was listing his top 5 NFL defenses... Number 3 on his list was the New Orleans Saints after adding Byrd next to Vaccaro in the secondary with Kenan Lewis as a legit shutdown corner (played like one last year) and the Rob Ryan blitz schemes up front.

Cam Jordan became a star last year, and Clayton said this is the year Hicks joins him as a legit star on that d-line.

Brees and co creating huge leads allows the D to be super aggressive, leading to sacks and TOs. Loud dome for home games helps as well. Carolina and Tampa's offenses aren't too scary in division, and Atlanta has the passing game but not much OL to speak of...

Seriously makes me wonder if we're all sleeping on the Saints this year....
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I don't think we are. :shrug:

They just get drafted too regularly to be part of a waiver wire plan, unless they get lit up by ATL week one.
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Maybe my experience differs then... On waivers in all my leagues.
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Just going by ADP. I do see that 11th on fantasypros and 13th on MFL, they're borderline to be undrafted. I think I read somewhere recently that in the average 12 man league, something like 15 D's usually get picked.

Anyway, I like the Saint D, and agree with your assessment about their good points. But alas, in my leagues, they're gone. As are the Steelers. Because I took them for their week one matchup against the Browns. :thumbup:

Really, the thing to LOVE about the PIT D is that their early schedule is so soft that if you find you can't swipe a primo defense off waivers to replace them, you could do a lot worse than keep trotting them out for a while...

...if their secondary holds up. :oldunsure:

 
Why do you guys draft defenses like DEN if youre just gonna bench them in week 1? Theres always gonna be a team with a better matchup. Ypu shouldve just streamed then and ignored DEN or play them in most of their games. Whats bad about the IND matchup? Colts have a bad oline and luck throws picks.

 
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