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Any chance he can keep the Job when Ray M returns, he seems to do decent in the boxscore when he gets his chance.

 
The interception was a gift tip, right place at the right time. Didn't watch him or the game real close, but what I saw was a guy that knows how to tackle, hustles and can find lanes to the quarterback on blitzes. Bramel and Norton should be able to give us the scoop on him, being their home team guy. Had him in my lineup thankfully.

 
Probably another good matchup again this week, but then the party's over with a by week and Maualuga returning. It's possible Rey could steal snaps in the nickel once RM is back, but it would be shocking if he beat out RM for base D snaps.

 
Is there a chance Maualuga loses his starting job. I can recall a time when he was considered a liability.

 
The Man With No Name said:
The interception was a gift tip, right place at the right time. Didn't watch him or the game real close, but what I saw was a guy that knows how

to tackle, hustles and can find lanes to the

quarterback on blitzes. Bramel and Norton

should be able to give us the scoop on him,

being their home team guy. Had him in my

lineup thankfully.
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They seem to think he's the next big thing in Cincy. I'm tempering expectations because Cincy has a history of mediocre IDP linebackers (due to scorekeeper/situation). I've also learned that FBG's tend to overhype their teams players. It was an overtime game as well.

 
Vinnie has come out of nowhere so I don't know a thing about him but I do know that Baltimore middle linebacker Daryl Smith has 2.5 sacks this season, ALL OF THEM came against Cleveland and V-Rey plays the Browns Sunday ..

Could be a shark move to not just pick him up but to give him the start. :shark:

 
What are the thoughts around here? Does Rey get his starting job back after week 12? I grabbed him just in case he is able to steal the MLB but am ready to cut him if he is a temporary guy. Plus another team in my league was trying to nab him and ain't nobody got time for dat. But seriously, does he have a chance of being the starting MLB?

 
The Man With No Name said:
georg013 said:
What are the thoughts around here? Does Rey get his starting job back after week 12? I grabbed him just in case he is able to steal the MLB but am ready to cut him if he is a temporary guy. Plus another team in my league was trying to nab him and ain't nobody got time for dat. But seriously, does he have a chance of being the starting MLB?
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http://podcast.footballguys.com/2013/Footballguys-Audible-2013-Vol217a.mp3
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Summary for those who can't hear?

 
What I got from the podcast:

Basically when an IDP stud is about to explode on the scene, it looks like what VRey looks like. The words: 1 game it's a fluke, 2 games it's a trend were brought up. They pointed out how Maualuga has been serviceable for the team but not great. The gist of the podcast was that early identification is the key to securing future IDP studs in fantasy. If VRey is indeed a future star, now is the time to take a chance on him. The opportunity is there for him to seize the job and never look back. If he explodes like he did last week, it will be too late to get him for cheap or without compeition from other owners.

 
Thanks for the summary! Appreciate it. I used a waiver claim on Rey earlier this week... still a bit worried he'll be a one week flash in the pan but the opportunity was just too good to pass up.

 
He really needs to keep starting. Almost had another sack at the end of the game. He is all over the field and gets pressure on the QB, something the Rey has never been able to do consistently.

 
Yesterday's box score for Cincinnati LB Vincent Rey

- 7 solo tackles

- 5 assists

12 total tackles

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That coming off of his monster, 10 solo, 5 assist, 3 sack, 1 interception game.

Rey-M is solid in the run game but Vinnie-Rey overall looks the superior athlete and is making more plays.

 
I think it's most likely that it kills value for both guys. VRey is best in coverage and RM is best against the run. Maualuga was having his best season when he went down. I think it's possible he comes back in a 50/50 split if VRey has earned the nickel snaps. The Bengals are in nickel a ton so I think they prefer to have 2 of their base guys as their nickel LBs, but they've used VRey as a 3rd down LB in the past.

 
65 def snaps.

RM 38

Vincent Rey 27

Bengals played 5 DBs on between 58-60 of the 65 snaps. You can't even call that nickel. It's pretty much the base defense which is why it's hard to make Rey the nickel guy even if he's better in pass D. FWIW, Maualuga was again solid in run game and burned for the only TD in the pass game. Rey got a fumble recovery.

 
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Bengals extended original-pick tenders to restricted free agent WR Andrew Hawkins, WR Dane Sanzenbacher and LB Vincent Rey.

wasn't Rey not drafted, litte confused on how that works. Any chance hes starting next yr?

 
Unless they've changed the rules, undrafteds don't get compensatory picks if given the lowest tender amount.

Tagging an undrafted with the "original round tender" offer is really tagging them with the "right of first refusal only" offer, since they didn't have an "original round drafted." The team won't get a draft pick if the undrafted signs an offer sheet with another team and walks, but the team will still be given the opportunity to match whatever offer the player receives before they just cut him loose for nothing.

 
This is good for Rey owners. The coaches should and likely also know Maualuga doesn't know how to tackle.

(Rotoworld) According to Pro Football Focus, Bengals MLB Rey Maualuga missed 14.8 percent of his tackle opportunities in the 2013 regular season. Analysis: Maualuga missed on 13-of-88 tackle opportunities in 13 games played. Only Mychal Kendricks (16.5) and Derrick Johnson (16.4) missed tackles at a greater clip among inside linebackers. One season removed from being PFF's lowest graded inside linebacker out of 53 qualifiers, Maualuga again proved to be a liability.

 
The Man With No Name said:
This is good for Rey owners. The coaches should and likely also know Maualuga doesn't know how to tackle.

(Rotoworld) According to Pro Football Focus, Bengals MLB Rey Maualuga missed 14.8 percent of his tackle opportunities in the 2013 regular season. Analysis: Maualuga missed on 13-of-88 tackle opportunities in 13 games played. Only Mychal Kendricks (16.5) and Derrick Johnson (16.4) missed tackles at a greater clip among inside linebackers. One season removed from being PFF's lowest graded inside linebacker out of 53 qualifiers, Maualuga again proved to be a liability.
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I'm sure they knew that last yr too after he was injuried but it didn't stop them from inserting back into the starting line up. I picked Rey in just about every league I'm in but I'm afraid this isn't over until Maualuga is gone.

 
To me it has always seemed that the Bengals view Maualuga in a different light than what the general consensus is elsewhere. Sure, Guenther went out a year ago and said that Maualuga needed to play better, but to me that was clearly more of a motivational thing rather than a negative thing. I've always felt that Maualuga has a strong backing within the Bengals and that they value him quite highly. I've only heard positive things about his 2013 season; not at a superstar level but at a level where he does his role well. He went through a really good offseason last year and he seemed to have cleared up a lot of his issues:

Guenther easily ticks off the reasons for Maualuga's emergence. His conditioning, his comfort level with three straight years in the same position, and his confidence in the face of the cyberspace criticism he takes so much to heart.

Guenther has told Maualuga about the view he has when he settles into the Paul Brown Stadium coaching box on game day.

"There are more Maualuga jerseys in that stadium than any other player when I look around," Guenther says. "No question he's mentally more confident. He used to let people get to him. I tell him, '50 percent are going to like you, 50 percent are going to hate you, 100 percent are going to talk about you.' He understands what kind of player he can be."

And then there are Maualuga's two-a-day workouts in the offseason in Los Angeles that are paying off, as well as the early days on the field in OTAs and training camp.

"Honestly, he's stronger and better conditioned than he's ever been," Guenther says. "He's doesn't get as tired as fast. And he's cleaned up what he did his first couple of years (in the middle). Not overrunning plays, using his hands. Rey's biggest asset is he's physical. When he's in the running game, you know it.

"Our biggest charge in the offseason as a linebacking corps is to get better downhill striking people with their hands. You see so many linebackers these days on tape just running around blocks and then the backs cut off and run around them. We've done a real good job emphasizing that and they've taken it into the games." - http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Maualuga-on-deck-for-hot-hitting-backers/912a3d74-9df1-425b-80a7-e56af0813a91

I've been picking up Vinny Rey in some of my leagues as well but it is definitely as more of long term flier, getting excited about what type of production he could put up if given the opportunity, but I don't find it highly likely that they will demote Maualuga in favor of Vinny and even if they do he is not going to play a ton of snaps. You have to keep in mind that they are really high on Emmanuel Lamur as well, and even Taylor Mays plays some nickel linebacker, so the only LB who stays on the field is Burfict and then they will mix it up with Lamur, Mays, Maualuga and Vinny Rey depending on situation (even James Harrison played some nickel last year) - and they would likely still bring in Maualuga for obvious running situations. Maualuga's contract expires after the 2014 season so it will be interesting to see where they go from there. Personally I think that they re-sign Maualuga if he continues to play like he did in 2013 or improves on that.

 
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I'm jumping on this week. Seems as good a pickup as any. Hoping the Pos owners aren't paying that much attention to Cincy...

 
Maualuga (hamstring) is not expected back for a few more weeks. link

It's a repeat of last year. Excellent matchups for V.Rey here (vs Bal, vs Jax, vs Cle). But I doubt the Bengals will ever replace a healthy Maualuga. Those compromising pictures he has of Marvin Lewis would get leaked. :wall:

 
Thanks for the info. I'm definitely going to pick him up on waivers. Hopefully, Lamur and Burfict will be out because his production seems to dip with them in. Now, it's a debate for who to start between Rey and Hightower, but I'll probably get them both and decide on Sunday. Any information on Burfict or Lamur?

 
The Admiral said:
Thanks for the info. I'm definitely going to pick him up on waivers. Hopefully, Lamur and Burfict will be out because his production seems to dip with them in. Now, it's a debate for who to start between Rey and Hightower, but I'll probably get them both and decide on Sunday. Any information on Burfict or Lamur?
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just remember the early am game if your stuff locks

 
With Burfict and Lamur both back this week, is V. Rey still a viable option? Will he see enough snaps?

 
Should be the starter at MLB. Got 100% of the snaps last week, but that was with Lamur out and Burfict injured early. Think you are correct to be concerned that the other two are the preferred nickel LBs. So it will depend on how much nickel they play vs Baltimore. Based on snap percentages for the season (T.Smith 77.5%, S.Smith 72.1%, J.Jones 27.9%, M.Brown 26.4%, K.Aiken 13.9, M.Campanaro 9.6%), Baltimore does not run 3+ WRs all that often. Note they also lead the NFL in FB snap pct at 42.6%. And based on the way these two teams have played of late, it seems a decent bet that Baltimore will be winning and running for much of the game. So Rey should play plenty. It's always risky to start a 2-down LB, but frankly with the way he always seems to blow up when given a chance at MLB, and the way Burfict hasn't finished all that many games this year (one is it?), I'd roll the dice.

 
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Diamond said:
Should be the starter at MLB. Got 100% of the snaps last week, but that was with Lamur out and Burfict injured early. Think you are correct to be concerned that the other two are the preferred nickel LBs. So it will depend on how much nickel they play vs Baltimore. Based on snap percentages for the season (T.Smith 77.5%, S.Smith 72.1%, J.Jones 27.9%, M.Brown 26.4%, K.Aiken 13.9, M.Campanaro 9.6%), Baltimore does not run 3+ WRs all that often. Note they also lead the NFL in FB snap pct at 42.6%. And based on the way these two teams have played of late, it seems a decent bet that Baltimore will be winning and running for much of the game. So Rey should play plenty. It's always risky to start a 2-down LB, but frankly with the way he always seems to blow up when given a chance at MLB, and the way Burfict hasn't finished all that many games this year (one is it?), I'd roll the dice.
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This is great info. Thank you so much!!

Follow-up: Is Lamur worth a start this week?

 
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and with both lamur/burfict coming off injury they may not be up for a full snap compliment.........then there is the other issue with Burfict getting a concussion/neck strain/eye gouge and etc every game anyways.

 
Diamond said:
Should be the starter at MLB. Got 100% of the snaps last week, but that was with Lamur out and Burfict injured early. Think you are correct to be concerned that the other two are the preferred nickel LBs. So it will depend on how much nickel they play vs Baltimore. Based on snap percentages for the season (T.Smith 77.5%, S.Smith 72.1%, J.Jones 27.9%, M.Brown 26.4%, K.Aiken 13.9, M.Campanaro 9.6%), Baltimore does not run 3+ WRs all that often. Note they also lead the NFL in FB snap pct at 42.6%. And based on the way these two teams have played of late, it seems a decent bet that Baltimore will be winning and running for much of the game. So Rey should play plenty. It's always risky to start a 2-down LB, but frankly with the way he always seems to blow up when given a chance at MLB, and the way Burfict hasn't finished all that many games this year (one is it?), I'd roll the dice.
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with O.Daniels out don't you think they'll run more 3WR sets? I can't image Crocket Gilmore will get much time as their last healthy TE. Id bet we see more Marlon Brown and Jacoby. Picked up Rey last week but feeling like its safe to throw him back and let someone else step on this land mine.

 
Owen Daniels injury does change things. I do think Baltimore likes Gilmore, and he's going to play. But the lack of multiple TEs will mean more 3 WR sets and less V.Rey. Makes him a much more risky play.

 
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