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auction keeper league question (1 Viewer)

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do you guys think that a player dropped in an auction keeper league should be able to pick be picked up off of waivers and kept for his drafted auction price the following year by whomever scoops the player up or should be it be a set value like $20 automatically to keep a player picked off waivers no matter what

 
Best way to do it is to use blind bidding instead of waivers. Just have the purchase price be the salary of the player plus however much you want to add for next year. That way people have to balance outbidding other people whole still getting a value that's keeper worthy.

 
We do use blind bidding. There is some disagreement in the league whether players should be kept from their original drafted value or a set amount. like $20. I like the idea of using the FAAB as the keeper price though.

 
I've been running an auction keeper league for 15 years. We do whichever value is higher is what the value is. This helps stop possible cheating.

 
I've been running an auction keeper league for 15 years. We do whichever value is higher is what the value is. This helps stop possible cheating.
That is a good idea that I will implement if I go ahead with my plan to start an auction league in 2015.
 
In my 2 main auction leagues, it's $6 to keep a free-agent. Valuing them the same as a $1 player from the draft, no matter what their FAAB price was (and costs for all players go up $5 per season).

It's not perfect and obviously, there are some crazy bargains (and the corresponding draft day inflation), but I think guys off the wire should be a relative bargain to keep. Particularly with a FAAB system.

The league didn't consider them one of the best 200 players on draft day. I'm not sure it should cost as much to keep them as it does a $20+ player that created a bidding war on draft day.

Thinking about proposing a "half the FAAB cost" system.

 
We do blind bidding as well. Also, from end of season until the auction, waivers are closed so anyone not on a roster at season end is available for auction.

 
We keep drafted value for pickups.

Undrafted players may be kept for $5 out of $200 auction pot.

 
This topic has caused more arguments than anything in my 5 year league. Originally, players who had been auctioned, once dropped to waivers (we use FAAB too) were ineligible to be kept the following year, as was any player who was not bought in the auction. I argued that it didn't make sense to bucket all of these players together, as we had an original value to go on with the former group. We finally changed the rule to allow these players to be kept at their original auction value, plus our normal keeper premium, while free agents post-auction were ineligible to be kept.

 
I've been running an auction keeper league for 15 years. We do whichever value is higher is what the value is. This helps stop possible cheating.
What possible cheating can happen if 12 owners have a chance to bid on a guy and he slips through cheap?

 
Best way to do it is to use blind bidding instead of waivers. Just have the purchase price be the salary of the player plus however much you want to add for next year. That way people have to balance outbidding other people whole still getting a value that's keeper worthy.
I think I prefer this idea.
 
This is just my opinion but to me i feel like a keeper should have to be on your roster the whole season. You should have to endure the used roster spot. To me that adds a different element and forces you to make a tougher decision. Last year for instance some people thought that christine michael was going to be sea rb this year. Wheres the difficulty on dropping a guy to pick him up weeks before the season ends. Again just my opinion and this is only one scenario

 
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This is just my opinion but to me i feel like a keeper should have to be on your roster the whole season. You should have to endure the used roster spot. To me that adds a different element and forces you to make a tougher decision. Last year for instance some people thought that christine michael was going to be sea rb this year. Wheres the difficulty on dropping a guy to pick him up weeks before the season ends. Again just my opinion and this is only one scenario
Good point as well
 
I've been running an auction keeper league for 15 years. We do whichever value is higher is what the value is. This helps stop possible cheating.
What possible cheating can happen if 12 owners have a chance to bid on a guy and he slips through cheap?
Cheating was probably the wrong word to use, exposure of a loop hole is probably better. As by the end of the year (when most of this type of thing would happen) most of the teams have used the vast majority of there WW budget (100 for the yr) picking up players. This rule stops all the top tier guys from being dropped and picked back up again for $5 or $10 and virtually ensures that they go back into the pool for next years auction. It just keeps the playing field level.

 
If you have a hard cap so you're bidding with your free cap space, then I think using the waiver price makes sense since it is tied to the prices of other players on rosters.

If it's something like "Everyone gets $100 with no connection to the $100 salary cap used in the auction", then I'm not sure that strictly using the winning waiver bid makes sense. Someone might spend $90 on waivers on the player everyone thinks is the huge breakout, but that player would never be worth $90 in the regular auction. The prices coming from 2 different caps at 2 different times just aren't connected enough for my liking.

My preference is to just use a hard cap, but that's not for everyone. If I wanted to incorporate the winning waiver bid without a hard cap... off the top of my head I might use some fixed salary ($10) and then add a percentage of the winning waiver price in, like 20%. Just throwing numbers out as an example, what makes sense would depend on your league and the cap amounts and prices of other keepers that you're trying to get on par with.

 
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I thought about trying to use some sort of calculation similar to how the NFL assigns franchise player salaries in order to determine the keeper cost of FA pick ups, ie top 5 average keeper cost at his position. But it seemed to lead to other problems.

 

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