fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Been a while since one of these have been done. I couldn't imagine what could be done that would make me leave not tip since it has never happened, but I'm sure some have experienced it.
This is just a general etiquette thread. Not specific to an NFL player.Another tipping thread?
Europeans?Also I know I know I'm not allowed to say it, but most servers will tell you there's a segment of society who are notoriously bad tippers.
Yeah, running backs.Also I know I know I'm not allowed to say it, but most servers will tell you there's a segment of society who are notoriously bad tippers.
We have those already. Multiple.This is just a general etiquette thread. Not specific to an NFL player.Another tipping thread?
I never thought of it that way... pity money. But I guess you're right. Sometimes it's guilt money or peer pressure money then too.Can't ever remember not leaving a tip, but I guess some people don't realize what $2 an hour is really like unless they have done it.
About 10 years ago, 8 of us were out at a new restaurant and we agreed as a group to leave a $0 tip.Can't ever remember not leaving a tip, but I guess some people don't realize what $2 an hour is really like unless they have done it.
There were 8 adults and not one of you thought of talking to another waiter or the manager? Also that seems like a very specific situation that would not occur often.About 10 years ago, 8 of us were out at a new restaurant and we agreed as a group to leave a $0 tip.Can't ever remember not leaving a tip, but I guess some people don't realize what $2 an hour is really like unless they have done it.
Restaurant was not crowded at all, we waited maybe an hour for food, the waiter completely disappeared other than to deliver the food. It was a total joke. If I remember correctly we weren't even sure the place would be open yet the night we were going. Pretty sure the restaurant was just a chef who was trying to start his own place and hired a couple of slacker friends of his to try and get by as waiters. They were probably smoking out in the back the whole time. I don't think the place lasted a month.
There was no manager. I don't remember seeing another waiter, there may have been one. Yes it was an unusual situation.There were 8 adults and not one of you thought of talking to another waiter or the manager? Also that seems like a very specific situation that would not occur often.About 10 years ago, 8 of us were out at a new restaurant and we agreed as a group to leave a $0 tip.Can't ever remember not leaving a tip, but I guess some people don't realize what $2 an hour is really like unless they have done it.
Restaurant was not crowded at all, we waited maybe an hour for food, the waiter completely disappeared other than to deliver the food. It was a total joke. If I remember correctly we weren't even sure the place would be open yet the night we were going. Pretty sure the restaurant was just a chef who was trying to start his own place and hired a couple of slacker friends of his to try and get by as waiters. They were probably smoking out in the back the whole time. I don't think the place lasted a month.
Total disaster to me means you never got your food or it was not edible in some way or something. In that case I wouldn't even pay at all so it doesn't even really count.There was no manager. I don't remember seeing another waiter, there may have been one. Yes it was an unusual situation.There were 8 adults and not one of you thought of talking to another waiter or the manager? Also that seems like a very specific situation that would not occur often.About 10 years ago, 8 of us were out at a new restaurant and we agreed as a group to leave a $0 tip.Can't ever remember not leaving a tip, but I guess some people don't realize what $2 an hour is really like unless they have done it.
Restaurant was not crowded at all, we waited maybe an hour for food, the waiter completely disappeared other than to deliver the food. It was a total joke. If I remember correctly we weren't even sure the place would be open yet the night we were going. Pretty sure the restaurant was just a chef who was trying to start his own place and hired a couple of slacker friends of his to try and get by as waiters. They were probably smoking out in the back the whole time. I don't think the place lasted a month.
I'm pointing out there's always a possibility someone could leave a $0 tip if it is a total disaster. Some in here say it should never be done.
Pretty much where I'm at, though in actual practice 15% is my floor. Have never gone below it. I'm pretty much always around 20-25%.20, 20, 16-19 if it's poor service that I know is the server's fault, but that's extremely rare in my experience. Or rare that I notice it enough to really care. I would only tip less than 15% if there was actual rudeness involved, and then it's likely a zero tip.
The question stands.This is just a general etiquette thread. Not specific to an NFL player.Another tipping thread?
I hear Toby Gerhart tips well.Yeah, running backs.Also I know I know I'm not allowed to say it, but most servers will tell you there's a segment of society who are notoriously bad tippers.
10% for dudes. He could be working in a steel mill somewhere if he needed money that badly.20% if he's a hot guy?15%, more if she's a cute girl.
Are you sure they didn't build in the gratuity which most places do with groups of 8 or more.There was no manager. I don't remember seeing another waiter, there may have been one. Yes it was an unusual situation.There were 8 adults and not one of you thought of talking to another waiter or the manager? Also that seems like a very specific situation that would not occur often.About 10 years ago, 8 of us were out at a new restaurant and we agreed as a group to leave a $0 tip.Can't ever remember not leaving a tip, but I guess some people don't realize what $2 an hour is really like unless they have done it.
Restaurant was not crowded at all, we waited maybe an hour for food, the waiter completely disappeared other than to deliver the food. It was a total joke. If I remember correctly we weren't even sure the place would be open yet the night we were going. Pretty sure the restaurant was just a chef who was trying to start his own place and hired a couple of slacker friends of his to try and get by as waiters. They were probably smoking out in the back the whole time. I don't think the place lasted a month.
I'm pointing out there's always a possibility someone could leave a $0 tip if it is a total disaster. Some in here say it should never be done.
waiters and waitresses don't know what it is like to make $2/hr either.Can't ever remember not leaving a tip, but I guess some people don't realize what $2 an hour is really like unless they have done it.
Yes because every bar and restaurant is always packed to the gills.waiters and waitresses don't know what it is like to make $2/hr either.Can't ever remember not leaving a tip, but I guess some people don't realize what $2 an hour is really like unless they have done it.
You're a ####ing waste of good carbon.10% for dudes. He could be working in a steel mill somewhere if he needed money that badly.20% if he's a hot guy?15%, more if she's a cute girl.
Bad carbon, imo.Josie Maran said:You're a ####ing waste of good carbon.Eminence said:10% for dudes. He could be working in a steel mill somewhere if he needed money that badly.joffer said:20% if he's a hot guy?Eminence said:15%, more if she's a cute girl.
Yeah, I've never had a situation that I felt warranted not tipping or a super low #### you tip, but I could imagine it. Being so aggressively horrible that the manager really needs to be aware seems like a good rule of thumb though.If you're not tipping or tipping under 10% you better speak to a manager to tell them why.
Should be? CIf an average server goes an entire shift without receiving a single tip, who should they be more angry at (if at all)?
a) customers
b) employer
c) themself
That's not really a good argument. I put in plenty of time at my job that I don't receive any pay for. What's your average week like on an hourly basis?Josie Maran said:Yes because every bar and restaurant is always packed to the gills.parasaurolophus said:waiters and waitresses don't know what it is like to make $2/hr either.Can't ever remember not leaving a tip, but I guess some people don't realize what $2 an hour is really like unless they have done it.
That $300 Saturday night is awesome, but a lot of the time it is making up for the $14 Monday day shift and the $20 Tuesday night.
I made less than minimum wage tonight, btw.
Hell, at that point I'd probably just walk out the door without paying.You'd have to 'eff up pretty bad to get less than 20% from me, but it has happened. The worst was a few months ago when my wife and I went out to a pretty nice restaurant. The waitress seemed hell bent on doing everything to pump up our bill and was pretty annoying. My wife doesn't drink, and I'm not a wine drinker. Despite telling her this, multiple times, she constantly tried to sell us booze (before someone chimes in, no, this is not the norm for this place to 'hard sell' as we've been there plenty of times).
We ordered an appetizer (calamari, I think) and we were told they were out. OK, no problem, it happens. She recommends her 'favorite appetizer' which happens to be $15 more. We say no thanks, we'll just go with the crab soup. As we're waiting we notice a lot of calamari apps coming out. I chalk it up to they ordered first so we were out of luck.
We order dinner ten minutes later and she says our appetizer should be out soon. The one we told her we didn't want. I told her she must have mistaken us for another table, we ordered crab soup. I kid you not, she said "Oh, I added it for you anyway since it's better than the soup". I'm on the verge of killing her at this point. We tell her we don't want it and want our soups.. She grumbles ok.
15 minutes go by, no soup.We flag her down and ask and are assured it's coming. 25 minutes go by, we get our dinner (not brought out by her). My wfe's dinner comes out incorrectly as she's lactose intolerant and made it clear that she couldn't have the creme based sauce that came with the fish she ordered. My food was fine. As this is happening, I notice people that were seated after us were getting calamari apps. I flagged down another waitress and told her what was going on and she offered to take back my wife's dish and get it corrected. I mention something about the calamari and got a puzzled look and she said they had 'plenty'. I'm fuming now.
The other waitress brought my wife's corrected order and we enjoy the dinner. Our waitress finally shows back up and I tell her all the problems and I want to see the manager. She rolls her eyes and walks away.
We wait twenty more minutes: no manager, no bill, nothing. I flag down a bus boy asking for the manager and he gets him. I tell him the quick and dirty about what happened and he said she never said anything to him. When all is said and done, he offered to comp dessert or whatever and we decline and just want to leave. We got the bill and the appetizer we didn't order was still on the bill along with the soups we never got. There was also the bottle of wine she tried to sell us as well.
This time i get up and track down the manager myself as he certainly should have looked at it after our discussion. Long story short, the only time I haven't left a tip.
I'm sure there is a good reason for that.I hear Toby Gerhart tips well.Yeah, running backs.Also I know I know I'm not allowed to say it, but most servers will tell you there's a segment of society who are notoriously bad tippers.
Whole meal should have been comped.You'd have to 'eff up pretty bad to get less than 20% from me, but it has happened. The worst was a few months ago when my wife and I went out to a pretty nice restaurant. The waitress seemed hell bent on doing everything to pump up our bill and was pretty annoying. My wife doesn't drink, and I'm not a wine drinker. Despite telling her this, multiple times, she constantly tried to sell us booze (before someone chimes in, no, this is not the norm for this place to 'hard sell' as we've been there plenty of times).
We ordered an appetizer (calamari, I think) and we were told they were out. OK, no problem, it happens. She recommends her 'favorite appetizer' which happens to be $15 more. We say no thanks, we'll just go with the crab soup. As we're waiting we notice a lot of calamari apps coming out. I chalk it up to they ordered first so we were out of luck.
We order dinner ten minutes later and she says our appetizer should be out soon. The one we told her we didn't want. I told her she must have mistaken us for another table, we ordered crab soup. I kid you not, she said "Oh, I added it for you anyway since it's better than the soup". I'm on the verge of killing her at this point. We tell her we don't want it and want our soups.. She grumbles ok.
15 minutes go by, no soup.We flag her down and ask and are assured it's coming. 25 minutes go by, we get our dinner (not brought out by her). My wfe's dinner comes out incorrectly as she's lactose intolerant and made it clear that she couldn't have the creme based sauce that came with the fish she ordered. My food was fine. As this is happening, I notice people that were seated after us were getting calamari apps. I flagged down another waitress and told her what was going on and she offered to take back my wife's dish and get it corrected. I mention something about the calamari and got a puzzled look and she said they had 'plenty'. I'm fuming now.
The other waitress brought my wife's corrected order and we enjoy the dinner. Our waitress finally shows back up and I tell her all the problems and I want to see the manager. She rolls her eyes and walks away.
We wait twenty more minutes: no manager, no bill, nothing. I flag down a bus boy asking for the manager and he gets him. I tell him the quick and dirty about what happened and he said she never said anything to him. When all is said and done, he offered to comp dessert or whatever and we decline and just want to leave. We got the bill and the appetizer we didn't order was still on the bill along with the soups we never got. There was also the bottle of wine she tried to sell us as well.
This time i get up and track down the manager myself as he certainly should have looked at it after our discussion. Long story short, the only time I haven't left a tip.
Whole meal should have been comped.You'd have to 'eff up pretty bad to get less than 20% from me, but it has happened. The worst was a few months ago when my wife and I went out to a pretty nice restaurant. The waitress seemed hell bent on doing everything to pump up our bill and was pretty annoying. My wife doesn't drink, and I'm not a wine drinker. Despite telling her this, multiple times, she constantly tried to sell us booze (before someone chimes in, no, this is not the norm for this place to 'hard sell' as we've been there plenty of times).
We ordered an appetizer (calamari, I think) and we were told they were out. OK, no problem, it happens. She recommends her 'favorite appetizer' which happens to be $15 more. We say no thanks, we'll just go with the crab soup. As we're waiting we notice a lot of calamari apps coming out. I chalk it up to they ordered first so we were out of luck.
We order dinner ten minutes later and she says our appetizer should be out soon. The one we told her we didn't want. I told her she must have mistaken us for another table, we ordered crab soup. I kid you not, she said "Oh, I added it for you anyway since it's better than the soup". I'm on the verge of killing her at this point. We tell her we don't want it and want our soups.. She grumbles ok.
15 minutes go by, no soup.We flag her down and ask and are assured it's coming. 25 minutes go by, we get our dinner (not brought out by her). My wfe's dinner comes out incorrectly as she's lactose intolerant and made it clear that she couldn't have the creme based sauce that came with the fish she ordered. My food was fine. As this is happening, I notice people that were seated after us were getting calamari apps. I flagged down another waitress and told her what was going on and she offered to take back my wife's dish and get it corrected. I mention something about the calamari and got a puzzled look and she said they had 'plenty'. I'm fuming now.
The other waitress brought my wife's corrected order and we enjoy the dinner. Our waitress finally shows back up and I tell her all the problems and I want to see the manager. She rolls her eyes and walks away.
We wait twenty more minutes: no manager, no bill, nothing. I flag down a bus boy asking for the manager and he gets him. I tell him the quick and dirty about what happened and he said she never said anything to him. When all is said and done, he offered to comp dessert or whatever and we decline and just want to leave. We got the bill and the appetizer we didn't order was still on the bill along with the soups we never got. There was also the bottle of wine she tried to sell us as well.
This time i get up and track down the manager myself as he certainly should have looked at it after our discussion. Long story short, the only time I haven't left a tip.
Was he entitled and arrogant?i just tipped the pizza delivery guy $10 on an $85 bill. Was it sufficient? The delivery guy was Mexican if it matters.