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Danish McDonalds Workers Earn $20 An Hour - Big Mac Costs... (1 Viewer)

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35 cents more than in the U.S.

Fast food workers across the globe have been holding protests and walking out on their jobs in an attempt to force the industry to raise wages to at least $15 an hour.

In response to the protests, McDonald's, one of the largest fast food chains in the world, has warned that wage increases would force franchisees to raise menu prices.

But in Denmark, McDonald's employees make twice what they do in the US, and the Big Mac costs just 35 cents more, William Finnegan writes in the New Yorker.

McDonald's workers in the US make a median hourly wage of $9.15, according a New York Times report citing PayScale, a firm that tracks compensation data. McDonald's does not provide data on its wages.

"In Denmark, McDonald's workers over the age of eighteen earn more than $20 an hour — they are also unionized — and the price of a Big Mac is only thirty-five cents more than it is in the United States," Finnegan writes.

Thanks to unionization, workers in Denmark also get paid sick leave and overtime pay.

On average, the Big Mac costs about $4.80 in the US and $5.15 in Denmark, according to the Economist's Big Mac index, which tracks the price of Big Macs across the world.

There are also domestic fast food chains, such as In-N-Out Burger, that have managed to pay employees more than McDonald's while still selling food at cheap prices, Finnegan points out. In-N-Out's starting wages are $11 an hour.

Fast food companies' "traditional defense of miserable pay — that most of their employees are young, part time, just working for gas money, really — has grown threadbare," Finnegan writes.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/denmark-mcdonalds-pays-20-an-hour-2014-9#ixzz3DDXwj4P3
 
35 cents more than in the U.S.

Fast food workers across the globe have been holding protests and walking out on their jobs in an attempt to force the industry to raise wages to at least $15 an hour.

In response to the protests, McDonald's, one of the largest fast food chains in the world, has warned that wage increases would force franchisees to raise menu prices.

But in Denmark, McDonald's employees make twice what they do in the US, and the Big Mac costs just 35 cents more, William Finnegan writes in the New Yorker.

McDonald's workers in the US make a median hourly wage of $9.15, according a New York Times report citing PayScale, a firm that tracks compensation data. McDonald's does not provide data on its wages.

"In Denmark, McDonald's workers over the age of eighteen earn more than $20 an hour — they are also unionized — and the price of a Big Mac is only thirty-five cents more than it is in the United States," Finnegan writes.

Thanks to unionization, workers in Denmark also get paid sick leave and overtime pay.

On average, the Big Mac costs about $4.80 in the US and $5.15 in Denmark, according to the Economist's Big Mac index, which tracks the price of Big Macs across the world.

There are also domestic fast food chains, such as In-N-Out Burger, that have managed to pay employees more than McDonald's while still selling food at cheap prices, Finnegan points out. In-N-Out's starting wages are $11 an hour.

Fast food companies' "traditional defense of miserable pay — that most of their employees are young, part time, just working for gas money, really — has grown threadbare," Finnegan writes.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/denmark-mcdonalds-pays-20-an-hour-2014-9#ixzz3DDXwj4P3
A waitress at Denny's probably makes far less than a waitress at Ruth's Chris. I suggest that those McDonald's workers who are dissatisfied with their current pay rate apply at In N Out if they want to make more. Or learn an actual skilled trade so they can get out of that industry completely. I've never understood why people feel they should get paid more than their job is worth, and have zero sympathy for them. Sorry, I just don't.

 
So they compare all US McDonalds workers (a huge number of which are under 21) with the ones that are over 21 in Denmark?

How many McDs workers in Denmark are under 21? How do the apples to apples numbers compare?

What is Denmark's unemployment rate for the demographic that most work at McD in the US compared to the demographic that most works at McD in Denmark?

All those are crucial statistics that aren't even mentioned.

 
I am happy to see the wages of unskilled laborers readily replaced by trained monkeys or robots increase so long as my wages increase proportionally, which in due time they would, as would other wages and prices to the point where the unskilled would still be barely eeking out a living.

 
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Wiki says there are 88 McDonald's in Denmark as of 2012. Probably not the best comparison to the USA with 14,267 locations.

 
So they compare all US McDonalds workers (a huge number of which are under 21) with the ones that are over 21 in Denmark?

How many McDs workers in Denmark are under 21? How do the apples to apples numbers compare?

What is Denmark's unemployment rate for the demographic that most work at McD in the US compared to the demographic that most works at McD in Denmark?

All those are crucial statistics that aren't even mentioned.
Way to miss the point everybody - which is that the price of a Big Mac went up 7.3% but all of their workers earn a living wage.

 
So they compare all US McDonalds workers (a huge number of which are under 21) with the ones that are over 21 in Denmark?

How many McDs workers in Denmark are under 21? How do the apples to apples numbers compare?

What is Denmark's unemployment rate for the demographic that most work at McD in the US compared to the demographic that most works at McD in Denmark?

All those are crucial statistics that aren't even mentioned.
The median age of female fast food workers is 32. The median age of workers in general is 29. Nearly 40% of all McDonalds workers are trying to raise a child on what they make. This is no longer a job for pimply faced teens. These are the jobs our economy has been creating.

 
So they compare all US McDonalds workers (a huge number of which are under 21) with the ones that are over 21 in Denmark?

How many McDs workers in Denmark are under 21? How do the apples to apples numbers compare?

What is Denmark's unemployment rate for the demographic that most work at McD in the US compared to the demographic that most works at McD in Denmark?

All those are crucial statistics that aren't even mentioned.
Way to miss the point everybody - which is that the price of a Big Mac went up 7.3% but all of their workers earn a living wage.
Our workers earn a living wage. It's not a great living wage but it's a living wage.

 
So they compare all US McDonalds workers (a huge number of which are under 21) with the ones that are over 21 in Denmark?

How many McDs workers in Denmark are under 21? How do the apples to apples numbers compare?

What is Denmark's unemployment rate for the demographic that most work at McD in the US compared to the demographic that most works at McD in Denmark?

All those are crucial statistics that aren't even mentioned.
The median age of female fast food workers is 32. The median age of workers in general is 29. Nearly 40% of all McDonalds workers are trying to raise a child on what they make. This is no longer a job for pimply faced teens. These are the jobs our economy has been creating.
There are plenty of non minimum wage jobs available. If someone chooses not to learn a skill that allows them to work somewhere besides McDonalds that's on them.

 
35 cents more than in the U.S.

Fast food workers across the globe have been holding protests and walking out on their jobs in an attempt to force the industry to raise wages to at least $15 an hour.

In response to the protests, McDonald's, one of the largest fast food chains in the world, has warned that wage increases would force franchisees to raise menu prices.

But in Denmark, McDonald's employees make twice what they do in the US, and the Big Mac costs just 35 cents more, William Finnegan writes in the New Yorker.

McDonald's workers in the US make a median hourly wage of $9.15, according a New York Times report citing PayScale, a firm that tracks compensation data. McDonald's does not provide data on its wages.

"In Denmark, McDonald's workers over the age of eighteen earn more than $20 an hour they are also unionized and the price of a Big Mac is only thirty-five cents more than it is in the United States," Finnegan writes.

Thanks to unionization, workers in Denmark also get paid sick leave and overtime pay.

On average, the Big Mac costs about $4.80 in the US and $5.15 in Denmark, according to the Economist's Big Mac index, which tracks the price of Big Macs across the world.

There are also domestic fast food chains, such as In-N-Out Burger, that have managed to pay employees more than McDonald's while still selling food at cheap prices, Finnegan points out. In-N-Out's starting wages are $11 an hour.

Fast food companies' "traditional defense of miserable pay that most of their employees are young, part time, just working for gas money, really has grown threadbare," Finnegan writes.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/denmark-mcdonalds-pays-20-an-hour-2014-9#ixzz3DDXwj4P3
A waitress at Denny's probably makes far less than a waitress at Ruth's Chris. I suggest that those McDonald's workers who are dissatisfied with their current pay rate apply at In N Out if they want to make more. Or learn an actual skilled trade so they can get out of that industry completely. I've never understood why people feel they should get paid more than their job is worth, and have zero sympathy for them. Sorry, I just don't.
What is your trade skill?
 
So they compare all US McDonalds workers (a huge number of which are under 21) with the ones that are over 21 in Denmark?

How many McDs workers in Denmark are under 21? How do the apples to apples numbers compare?

What is Denmark's unemployment rate for the demographic that most work at McD in the US compared to the demographic that most works at McD in Denmark?

All those are crucial statistics that aren't even mentioned.
The median age of female fast food workers is 32. The median age of workers in general is 29. Nearly 40% of all McDonalds workers are trying to raise a child on what they make. This is no longer a job for pimply faced teens. These are the jobs our economy has been creating.
Lots of stats there. None of them actually relevant,

 
35 cents more than in the U.S.

Fast food workers across the globe have been holding protests and walking out on their jobs in an attempt to force the industry to raise wages to at least $15 an hour.

In response to the protests, McDonald's, one of the largest fast food chains in the world, has warned that wage increases would force franchisees to raise menu prices.

But in Denmark, McDonald's employees make twice what they do in the US, and the Big Mac costs just 35 cents more, William Finnegan writes in the New Yorker.

McDonald's workers in the US make a median hourly wage of $9.15, according a New York Times report citing PayScale, a firm that tracks compensation data. McDonald's does not provide data on its wages.

"In Denmark, McDonald's workers over the age of eighteen earn more than $20 an hour they are also unionized and the price of a Big Mac is only thirty-five cents more than it is in the United States," Finnegan writes.

Thanks to unionization, workers in Denmark also get paid sick leave and overtime pay.

On average, the Big Mac costs about $4.80 in the US and $5.15 in Denmark, according to the Economist's Big Mac index, which tracks the price of Big Macs across the world.

There are also domestic fast food chains, such as In-N-Out Burger, that have managed to pay employees more than McDonald's while still selling food at cheap prices, Finnegan points out. In-N-Out's starting wages are $11 an hour.

Fast food companies' "traditional defense of miserable pay that most of their employees are young, part time, just working for gas money, really has grown threadbare," Finnegan writes.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/denmark-mcdonalds-pays-20-an-hour-2014-9#ixzz3DDXwj4P3
A waitress at Denny's probably makes far less than a waitress at Ruth's Chris. I suggest that those McDonald's workers who are dissatisfied with their current pay rate apply at In N Out if they want to make more. Or learn an actual skilled trade so they can get out of that industry completely. I've never understood why people feel they should get paid more than their job is worth, and have zero sympathy for them. Sorry, I just don't.
What is your trade skill?
Why?

 
So they compare all US McDonalds workers (a huge number of which are under 21) with the ones that are over 21 in Denmark?

How many McDs workers in Denmark are under 21? How do the apples to apples numbers compare?

What is Denmark's unemployment rate for the demographic that most work at McD in the US compared to the demographic that most works at McD in Denmark?

All those are crucial statistics that aren't even mentioned.
The median age of female fast food workers is 32. The median age of workers in general is 29. Nearly 40% of all McDonalds workers are trying to raise a child on what they make. This is no longer a job for pimply faced teens. These are the jobs our economy has been creating.
Lots of stats there. None of them actually relevant,
Lots more relevant than your misinformed this is a kids job post. Because it isn't anymore. These are the jobs that are being created. These are the jobs that are available for a lot of people.

 
You can throw out all the median age numbers you want, you know what they say about statistics. The eyeball test tells me every fast food place I go into is staffed by teenagers, with maybe two adults who are not a manager on shift. Maybe I just live in a unique part of America :shrug:

 
You can throw out all the median age numbers you want, you know what they say about statistics. The eyeball test tells me every fast food place I go into is staffed by teenagers, with maybe two adults who are not a manager on shift. Maybe I just live in a unique part of America :shrug:
The larger point is that if adults are doing the same job that can be done by a teenager, who had no skills prior to doing that job, that says something about how much the adult should be earning at that job.

 
What are the overhead costs per worker in Denmark? Does McDonalds have to directly cover their retirement, medical care, unemployment, etc?

 
So they compare all US McDonalds workers (a huge number of which are under 21) with the ones that are over 21 in Denmark?

How many McDs workers in Denmark are under 21? How do the apples to apples numbers compare?

What is Denmark's unemployment rate for the demographic that most work at McD in the US compared to the demographic that most works at McD in Denmark?

All those are crucial statistics that aren't even mentioned.
The median age of female fast food workers is 32. The median age of workers in general is 29. Nearly 40% of all McDonalds workers are trying to raise a child on what they make. This is no longer a job for pimply faced teens. These are the jobs our economy has been creating.
Lots of stats there. None of them actually relevant,
Lots more relevant than your misinformed this is a kids job post. Because it isn't anymore. These are the jobs that are being created. These are the jobs that are available for a lot of people.
Okay, so these are the jobs that are being created. Why does that mean the creators of these jobs owe the employees more?
 
So they compare all US McDonalds workers (a huge number of which are under 21) with the ones that are over 21 in Denmark?

How many McDs workers in Denmark are under 21? How do the apples to apples numbers compare?

What is Denmark's unemployment rate for the demographic that most work at McD in the US compared to the demographic that most works at McD in Denmark?

All those are crucial statistics that aren't even mentioned.
The median age of female fast food workers is 32. The median age of workers in general is 29. Nearly 40% of all McDonalds workers are trying to raise a child on what they make. This is no longer a job for pimply faced teens. These are the jobs our economy has been creating.
Lots of stats there. None of them actually relevant,
Lots more relevant than your misinformed this is a kids job post. Because it isn't anymore. These are the jobs that are being created. These are the jobs that are available for a lot of people.
How many of those workers are the sole earners in their household?

 
So they compare all US McDonalds workers (a huge number of which are under 21) with the ones that are over 21 in Denmark?

How many McDs workers in Denmark are under 21? How do the apples to apples numbers compare?

What is Denmark's unemployment rate for the demographic that most work at McD in the US compared to the demographic that most works at McD in Denmark?

All those are crucial statistics that aren't even mentioned.
The median age of female fast food workers is 32. The median age of workers in general is 29. Nearly 40% of all McDonalds workers are trying to raise a child on what they make. This is no longer a job for pimply faced teens. These are the jobs our economy has been creating.
Lots of stats there. None of them actually relevant,
Lots more relevant than your misinformed this is a kids job post. Because it isn't anymore. These are the jobs that are being created. These are the jobs that are available for a lot of people.
Okay, so these are the jobs that are being created. Why does that mean the creators of these jobs owe the employees more?
Yeah, I don't see why employers should be obligated to create lifelong career opportunities out of jobs that don't even require a High School education. That's not their problem.

 
35 cents more than in the U.S.

Fast food workers across the globe have been holding protests and walking out on their jobs in an attempt to force the industry to raise wages to at least $15 an hour.

In response to the protests, McDonald's, one of the largest fast food chains in the world, has warned that wage increases would force franchisees to raise menu prices.

But in Denmark, McDonald's employees make twice what they do in the US, and the Big Mac costs just 35 cents more, William Finnegan writes in the New Yorker.

McDonald's workers in the US make a median hourly wage of $9.15, according a New York Times report citing PayScale, a firm that tracks compensation data. McDonald's does not provide data on its wages.

"In Denmark, McDonald's workers over the age of eighteen earn more than $20 an hour they are also unionized and the price of a Big Mac is only thirty-five cents more than it is in the United States," Finnegan writes.

Thanks to unionization, workers in Denmark also get paid sick leave and overtime pay.

On average, the Big Mac costs about $4.80 in the US and $5.15 in Denmark, according to the Economist's Big Mac index, which tracks the price of Big Macs across the world.

There are also domestic fast food chains, such as In-N-Out Burger, that have managed to pay employees more than McDonald's while still selling food at cheap prices, Finnegan points out. In-N-Out's starting wages are $11 an hour.

Fast food companies' "traditional defense of miserable pay that most of their employees are young, part time, just working for gas money, really has grown threadbare," Finnegan writes.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/denmark-mcdonalds-pays-20-an-hour-2014-9#ixzz3DDXwj4P3
A waitress at Denny's probably makes far less than a waitress at Ruth's Chris. I suggest that those McDonald's workers who are dissatisfied with their current pay rate apply at In N Out if they want to make more. Or learn an actual skilled trade so they can get out of that industry completely. I've never understood why people feel they should get paid more than their job is worth, and have zero sympathy for them. Sorry, I just don't.
Yeah, I don't get it either. My first job was at McD when I was 15. I used my food service experience from there to get a job as a bus boy, and later a waiter. I probably tripled my income in a year.
 
Ironic that FBG's pride themselves on being big tippers but hate the idea of similarly skilled employees in non-tipping jobs making a decent wage.

 
Appears the difference is a bit more shocking on the dollar menu though. It's $1.41, which is about a 41% increase.

http://www.cjr.org/the_audit/the_minimum_wage_and_the_danis.php?page=all

And so at the Aalborg McDonald’s, for instance, a Big Mac extra value meal costs 58 kroner, or $10.25, while the Dollar Menu is the 10 kroner menu, which means it’s the dollar-seventy-seven menu here. In Denmark, taxes are included in list prices, unlike in the US, so backing out the 25 percent VAT gives us $8.20 for a Big Mac meal and $1.41 for the “dollar” menu. That compares to $6 and $1 in Seattle.
 
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So they compare all US McDonalds workers (a huge number of which are under 21) with the ones that are over 21 in Denmark?

How many McDs workers in Denmark are under 21? How do the apples to apples numbers compare?

What is Denmark's unemployment rate for the demographic that most work at McD in the US compared to the demographic that most works at McD in Denmark?

All those are crucial statistics that aren't even mentioned.
The median age of female fast food workers is 32. The median age of workers in general is 29. Nearly 40% of all McDonalds workers are trying to raise a child on what they make. This is no longer a job for pimply faced teens. These are the jobs our economy has been creating.
Which speaks not at all to their value.

 
As a general commentary, what is most disturbing about this thread is the utter callousness by so many toward a huge segment of our population. Seriously, you are pathetic, self absorbed drains upon what good is left in our society at large.

 
You can throw out all the median age numbers you want, you know what they say about statistics. The eyeball test tells me every fast food place I go into is staffed by teenagers, with maybe two adults who are not a manager on shift. Maybe I just live in a unique part of America :shrug:
My eyeball test tells me much different. I rarely eat fast food but a few times a year I hit a BK (comparable to McD's) and many if not most of the employees are older, much older in many cases-over 50 I'd guess

 
As a general commentary, what is most disturbing about this thread is the utter callousness by so many toward a huge segment of our population. Seriously, you are pathetic, self absorbed drains upon what good is left in our society at large.
Totally agree. One of my main complaints about this board. "I got mine...F everyone else". (And of course they got theirs because they are either smarter or work much harder than the dregs)

 
So they compare all US McDonalds workers (a huge number of which are under 21) with the ones that are over 21 in Denmark?How many McDs workers in Denmark are under 21? How do the apples to apples numbers compare?What is Denmark's unemployment rate for the demographic that most work at McD in the US compared to the demographic that most works at McD in Denmark?All those are crucial statistics that aren't even mentioned.
The median age of female fast food workers is 32. The median age of workers in general is 29. Nearly 40% of all McDonalds workers are trying to raise a child on what they make. This is no longer a job for pimply faced teens. These are the jobs our economy has been creating.
Which speaks not at all to their value.
No, but it does speak to the question of age. You know...the post he quoted?

 
So I will play along. Why does the government subsidize certain types of jobs but not all? So either the taxpayer subsidizes these minimum wage earners or the government raises their minimum wage to a better living wage. I will never understand the argument the companies will just leave. Will good leave if we as taxpayers have to subsidize your already crappy jobs than just go.

 
As a general commentary, what is most disturbing about this thread is the utter callousness by so many toward a huge segment of our population. Seriously, you are pathetic, self absorbed drains upon what good is left in our society at large.
Totally agree. One of my main complaints about this board. "I got mine...F everyone else". (And of course they got theirs because they are either smarter or work much harder than the dregs)
So people are pathetic, self-absorbed drains because they don't necessarily agree that people should get what they want just because they want it?

Got it :rolleyes:

 
As a general commentary, what is most disturbing about this thread is the utter callousness by so many toward a huge segment of our population. Seriously, you are pathetic, self absorbed drains upon what good is left in our society at large.
Totally agree. One of my main complaints about this board. "I got mine...F everyone else". (And of course they got theirs because they are either smarter or work much harder than the dregs)
So people are pathetic, self-absorbed drains because they don't necessarily agree that people should get what they want just because they want it?

Got it :rolleyes:
Would Jesus want to raise the minimum wage?

 
As a general commentary, what is most disturbing about this thread is the utter callousness by so many toward a huge segment of our population. Seriously, you are pathetic, self absorbed drains upon what good is left in our society at large.
Totally agree. One of my main complaints about this board. "I got mine...F everyone else". (And of course they got theirs because they are either smarter or work much harder than the dregs)
So people are pathetic, self-absorbed drains because they don't necessarily agree that people should get what they want just because they want it?

Got it :rolleyes:
Would Jesus want to raise the minimum wage?
He'd teach them to fish.

 
If I were a graduate of Hamburger University and employed as a burger-flipping professional, I would try to find a way to get a work permit in Denmark.

 
Ironic that FBG's pride themselves on being big tippers but hate the idea of similarly skilled employees in non-tipping jobs making a decent wage.
Because they would not be making or earning that wage, they simply wish to be given that wage regardless of their actual value.
I believe there's a lot of societal value in people having job that allows them to provide for their families. Some people simply aren't going to make it out of fast food type jobs and I don't mind paying a little more for things if it means people have better family lives and raise better children.

 
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As a general commentary, what is most disturbing about this thread is the utter callousness by so many toward a huge segment of our population. Seriously, you are pathetic, self absorbed drains upon what good is left in our society at large.
Totally agree. One of my main complaints about this board. "I got mine...F everyone else". (And of course they got theirs because they are either smarter or work much harder than the dregs)
So people are pathetic, self-absorbed drains because they don't necessarily agree that people should get what they want just because they want it?Got it :rolleyes:
Yeah that's EXACTLY what I said. Good job.

 
Ironic that FBG's pride themselves on being big tippers but hate the idea of similarly skilled employees in non-tipping jobs making a decent wage.
Because they would not be making or earning that wage, they simply wish to be given that wage regardless of their actual value.
I believe there's a lot of societal value in people having job that allows them to provide for their families. Some people simply aren't going to make it out of fast food type jobs and I don't mind paying a little more for things if it means people have better family lives and raise better children.
The problem is "paying a little more" is never enough. Eventually, they'll want more. Then what?

 
Ironic that FBG's pride themselves on being big tippers but hate the idea of similarly skilled employees in non-tipping jobs making a decent wage.
Because they would not be making or earning that wage, they simply wish to be given that wage regardless of their actual value.
I believe there's a lot of societal value in people having job that allows them to provide for their families. Some people simply aren't going to make it out of fast food type jobs and I don't mind paying a little more for things if it means people have better family lives and raise better children.
The problem is "paying a little more" is never enough. Eventually, they'll want more. Then what?
Shoot them

 
As a general commentary, what is most disturbing about this thread is the utter callousness by so many toward a huge segment of our population. Seriously, you are pathetic, self absorbed drains upon what good is left in our society at large.
Totally agree. One of my main complaints about this board. "I got mine...F everyone else". (And of course they got theirs because they are either smarter or work much harder than the dregs)
So people are pathetic, self-absorbed drains because they don't necessarily agree that people should get what they want just because they want it?Got it :rolleyes:
Yeah that's EXACTLY what I said. Good job.
Maybe you should open a fast food joint and pay everyone $20 an hour.

 
So I will play along. Why does the government subsidize certain types of jobs but not all? So either the taxpayer subsidizes these minimum wage earners or the government raises their minimum wage to a better living wage. I will never understand the argument the companies will just leave. Will good leave if we as taxpayers have to subsidize your already crappy jobs than just go.
Exactly. They're just shifting their labor costs to society.

Not to mention the impact the increased wages would have on the economy.

Not to mention the idea of at least some kind of social compact. Instead let's celebrate greed while CEO compensation in that industry has quadrupled since 2000 and fast food worker wages have increased .3%

 
As a general commentary, what is most disturbing about this thread is the utter callousness by so many toward a huge segment of our population. Seriously, you are pathetic, self absorbed drains upon what good is left in our society at large.
Totally agree. One of my main complaints about this board. "I got mine...F everyone else". (And of course they got theirs because they are either smarter or work much harder than the dregs)
So people are pathetic, self-absorbed drains because they don't necessarily agree that people should get what they want just because they want it?

Got it :rolleyes:
Would Jesus want to raise the minimum wage?
He'd teach them to McFish.
FYP

 
As a general commentary, what is most disturbing about this thread is the utter callousness by so many toward a huge segment of our population. Seriously, you are pathetic, self absorbed drains upon what good is left in our society at large.
Could you possibly be any more pompous and self-righteous?

I don't see anyone devaluing the worth of the actual people doing those jobs, mocking them or saying that they don't deserve the opportunity to improve their lots. What I see are people questioning what the stats really mean, the situations that these people are really in and if raising their pay really helps the majority of them and society or not.

It seems you're the one that prefers to slander others and "win" your argument based solely on an emotional appeal. That's both cowardly and unproductive. All you have done is poisoned the well. You have done nothing but contributed to the hateful language and violence of politics.

 
Ironic that FBG's pride themselves on being big tippers but hate the idea of similarly skilled employees in non-tipping jobs making a decent wage.
Because they would not be making or earning that wage, they simply wish to be given that wage regardless of their actual value.
I believe there's a lot of societal value in people having job that allows them to provide for their families. Some people simply aren't going to make it out of fast food type jobs and I don't mind paying a little more for things if it means people have better family lives and raise better children.
The problem is "paying a little more" is never enough. Eventually, they'll want more. Then what?
Imagine the chuckles you will share with poor people when you meet them in heaven.

 
Ironic that FBG's pride themselves on being big tippers but hate the idea of similarly skilled employees in non-tipping jobs making a decent wage.
Because they would not be making or earning that wage, they simply wish to be given that wage regardless of their actual value.
I believe there's a lot of societal value in people having job that allows them to provide for their families. Some people simply aren't going to make it out of fast food type jobs and I don't mind paying a little more for things if it means people have better family lives and raise better children.
The problem is "paying a little more" is never enough. Eventually, they'll want more. Then what?
Imagine the chuckles you will share with poor people when you meet them in heaven.
I'm sure there will be no poor people in heaven. I mean, that's why it's called "heaven", right?

 
As a general commentary, what is most disturbing about this thread is the utter callousness by so many toward a huge segment of our population. Seriously, you are pathetic, self absorbed drains upon what good is left in our society at large.
If we're trying to do what's best for society, we should just outlaw McDonald's. AMIRITE?!?!?!?

 
As a general commentary, what is most disturbing about this thread is the utter callousness by so many toward a huge segment of our population. Seriously, you are pathetic, self absorbed drains upon what good is left in our society at large.
Could you possibly be any more pompous and self-righteous?

I don't see anyone devaluing the worth of the actual people doing those jobs, mocking them or saying that they don't deserve the opportunity to improve their lots. What I see are people questioning what the stats really mean, the situations that these people are really in and if raising their pay really helps the majority of them and society or not.

It seems you're the one that prefers to slander others and "win" your argument based solely on an emotional appeal. That's both cowardly and unproductive. All you have done is poisoned the well. You have done nothing but contributed to the hateful language and violence of politics.
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