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***Official NY METS 2014 Thread*** (1 Viewer)

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Here we are Met fans. No Harvey, Niese starts on DL, Parnell appears to be broken, more Tejeda/Ike/Duda crap....welcome to 2014.

The biggest things that I want to see for a glimmer of hope is Wheeler to pitch like a future star and D'Arnaud to hit like a future star. Am I really asking for too much?

Oh and please keep Lagares in CF everyday.

 
Here we are Met fans. No Harvey, Niese starts on DL, Parnell appears to be broken, more Tejeda/Ike/Duda crap....welcome to 2014.

The biggest things that I want to see for a glimmer of hope is Wheeler to pitch like a future star and D'Arnaud to hit like a future star. Am I really asking for too much?

Oh and please keep Lagares in CF everyday.
Really?

We got 8 innings of hope this year. Should just get started on the

***Official NY METS 2015 Thread***
 
This year is about next year. I'm fine with that.

No major injuries.

Like to see what the rotation will shape up to be for 2015.

D'Arnoud hitting well would be positive and hopefully Daniel Murphys wife won't have any kids next Oct...we might need him

 
Looks like Chris Young is joining Parnell on the DL. In better news, Murphy is back today.

 
Looks like Chris Young is joining Parnell on the DL. In better news, Murphy is back today.
We shouldn't even welcome that selfish, family centric ******* back. Total lack of heart as a teammate.

/ Francessa

 
Looks like Chris Young is joining Parnell on the DL. In better news, Murphy is back today.
We shouldn't even welcome that selfish, family centric ******* back. Total lack of heart as a teammate.

/ Francessa
No surprise that Francessa is detached from reality yet again. I'd say he'd have a point (a minor one at that) if we were taking about a superstar that fans truly come to see or if we were talking about football (8 home games vs 81 home games) but he's off base on this.

 
its time for an ownership change and something to bring accountability back. i am the longest of met fans, since the 1970s and this is as poorly run an organization, without any accountability for winning, as i have seen. the mets act as if they are the only franchise with pitching prospects. heck, they have 4-6 arms that may be good to excellent. welcome to the rays, cards, astros, mariners, pirates, et al. 3 sandy drafts and this teams 1st rounders are wastes. while other teams have first rounders hitting the majors, we have captain nimmo, the bad cecchini and a hs 1b? jose fernandez was passed over for nimmo, a guy who couldnt play hs ball because his hs no team. granderson is a known commodity, known to hit 230 with a boat load of Ks. they have serios holes at C, 1b, ss, of and rp. they hype the SP, but they roll out dillon gee on opening day? alderson cant seem to grasp how to get a pen. they have virtually no speed and lack obp skills.

i am telling you this is a train wreck just getting started. if they make it out of the 60s in wins i'd be shocked.

that ballpark was a complete ghost town last nite too. heck, if they draw 10k a nite it will be a miracle. they charge top 5 prices for a AAA product.

 
I actually know the Katz family, part of the ownership. Don't know the Wilpons personally but from my knowledge with the Katz and what I hear about the Wilpons is that they are great people. Smart, sharp businessmen ( though dumb enough like a lot of other very smart folk to get duped by madoff)

That said, it's time. I don't know if it's still a lack of resources or dedication or what, but this is a huge and ongoing disappointment in perhaps the only market where if you keep spending more until you get it right will still provide a monetary (and baseball) ROI. It's not like even a large market where two or three bad deals kills you for a half decade. Build a winner in NY and the revenue just piles in.

But that had never really been the approach. Not to invest more in scouting and the majors and management. I just don't know. But as much as I like and respect the families, as owners it's hard to digest

 
Yea....looks like we're in for a Granderson 2-23 start.

He's gonna have to put some work in if he wants to compete with Ike
Yeah - not a great way to start the season. Going to stay positive though.

Really.

I am.

Staying positive.
Curtis Granderson doubles (1) on a fly ball to right fielder Jayson Werth. Daniel Murphy scores. David Wright to 3rd. One out.

WHO HOO
Make that 2 doubles now.

Staying positive - works!

 
I actually know the Katz family, part of the ownership. Don't know the Wilpons personally but from my knowledge with the Katz and what I hear about the Wilpons is that they are great people. Smart, sharp businessmen ( though dumb enough like a lot of other very smart folk to get duped by madoff)

That said, it's time. I don't know if it's still a lack of resources or dedication or what, but this is a huge and ongoing disappointment in perhaps the only market where if you keep spending more until you get it right will still provide a monetary (and baseball) ROI. It's not like even a large market where two or three bad deals kills you for a half decade. Build a winner in NY and the revenue just piles in.

But that had never really been the approach. Not to invest more in scouting and the majors and management. I just don't know. But as much as I like and respect the families, as owners it's hard to digest
You own a business that (a) is consistently profitable and (b) guarantees you status in a city where status matters a lot. Why would you even consider selling unless your good buddy Bud forces you out?

 
I actually know the Katz family, part of the ownership. Don't know the Wilpons personally but from my knowledge with the Katz and what I hear about the Wilpons is that they are great people. Smart, sharp businessmen ( though dumb enough like a lot of other very smart folk to get duped by madoff)

That said, it's time. I don't know if it's still a lack of resources or dedication or what, but this is a huge and ongoing disappointment in perhaps the only market where if you keep spending more until you get it right will still provide a monetary (and baseball) ROI. It's not like even a large market where two or three bad deals kills you for a half decade. Build a winner in NY and the revenue just piles in.

But that had never really been the approach. Not to invest more in scouting and the majors and management. I just don't know. But as much as I like and respect the families, as owners it's hard to digest
You own a business that (a) is consistently profitable and (b) guarantees you status in a city where status matters a lot. Why would you even consider selling unless your good buddy Bud forces you out?
I am not questioning THEIR rationale for keeping the team. I'm expressing a fans desire (even though I know them to be very good and charitable people) to have ownership that would like to win - in one of the few markets where buying a championship to some degree can work.

 
Ya know what last night actually felt like? Mid September and we're like 17 out of the wild card.

D'Arnaud still hitless. Would not surprise me at all if this guy sucks ###.

 
I went to opening day and took my 8 year old daughter.

Ticket prices were brutal.

I want to go back with my wife/daughter and son but don't want to have to take a 2nd mortgage.

Best way to get decent seats cheap below face?

I am suddenly feeling like the Mets should be paying me to go watch them.

 
I went to opening day and took my 8 year old daughter.

Ticket prices were brutal.

I want to go back with my wife/daughter and son but don't want to have to take a 2nd mortgage.

Best way to get decent seats cheap below face?

I am suddenly feeling like the Mets should be paying me to go watch them.
I'd imagine you can get some tickets outside the stadium pretty cheap at this point. Worst case you just get them at face value at the box that day. I'd also assume you'll see a whole bunch of promo's for ticket discounts this year. Team is already all but out of it and it's in their interest to not have a completely empty stadium either for the awful optics and moreso, the loss of beer and other revenue from people in the stands.

 
I won't go back to Citi Field as much as I enjoy it there. #### the Wilpons. I hope that place is empty all year.

 
I actually know the Katz family, part of the ownership. Don't know the Wilpons personally but from my knowledge with the Katz and what I hear about the Wilpons is that they are great people. Smart, sharp businessmen ( though dumb enough like a lot of other very smart folk to get duped by madoff)

That said, it's time. I don't know if it's still a lack of resources or dedication or what, but this is a huge and ongoing disappointment in perhaps the only market where if you keep spending more until you get it right will still provide a monetary (and baseball) ROI. It's not like even a large market where two or three bad deals kills you for a half decade. Build a winner in NY and the revenue just piles in.

But that had never really been the approach. Not to invest more in scouting and the majors and management. I just don't know. But as much as I like and respect the families, as owners it's hard to digest
You own a business that (a) is consistently profitable and (b) guarantees you status in a city where status matters a lot. Why would you even consider selling unless your good buddy Bud forces you out?
I am not questioning THEIR rationale for keeping the team. I'm expressing a fans desire (even though I know them to be very good and charitable people) to have ownership that would like to win - in one of the few markets where buying a championship to some degree can work.
Katz and Wilpon are both criminals. They have no business being free, let alone owning a baseball team.

 
I actually know the Katz family, part of the ownership. Don't know the Wilpons personally but from my knowledge with the Katz and what I hear about the Wilpons is that they are great people. Smart, sharp businessmen ( though dumb enough like a lot of other very smart folk to get duped by madoff)

That said, it's time. I don't know if it's still a lack of resources or dedication or what, but this is a huge and ongoing disappointment in perhaps the only market where if you keep spending more until you get it right will still provide a monetary (and baseball) ROI. It's not like even a large market where two or three bad deals kills you for a half decade. Build a winner in NY and the revenue just piles in.

But that had never really been the approach. Not to invest more in scouting and the majors and management. I just don't know. But as much as I like and respect the families, as owners it's hard to digest
You own a business that (a) is consistently profitable and (b) guarantees you status in a city where status matters a lot. Why would you even consider selling unless your good buddy Bud forces you out?
I am not questioning THEIR rationale for keeping the team. I'm expressing a fans desire (even though I know them to be very good and charitable people) to have ownership that would like to win - in one of the few markets where buying a championship to some degree can work.
Katz and Wilpon are both criminals. They have no business being free, let alone owning a baseball team.
Your rationale for this? The Katz are a very very solid family, very charitable and kind. So unless you have something more than them sucking at being MLB owners, no need to throw out #### like that.

 
I actually know the Katz family, part of the ownership. Don't know the Wilpons personally but from my knowledge with the Katz and what I hear about the Wilpons is that they are great people. Smart, sharp businessmen ( though dumb enough like a lot of other very smart folk to get duped by madoff)

That said, it's time. I don't know if it's still a lack of resources or dedication or what, but this is a huge and ongoing disappointment in perhaps the only market where if you keep spending more until you get it right will still provide a monetary (and baseball) ROI. It's not like even a large market where two or three bad deals kills you for a half decade. Build a winner in NY and the revenue just piles in.

But that had never really been the approach. Not to invest more in scouting and the majors and management. I just don't know. But as much as I like and respect the families, as owners it's hard to digest
You own a business that (a) is consistently profitable and (b) guarantees you status in a city where status matters a lot. Why would you even consider selling unless your good buddy Bud forces you out?
I am not questioning THEIR rationale for keeping the team. I'm expressing a fans desire (even though I know them to be very good and charitable people) to have ownership that would like to win - in one of the few markets where buying a championship to some degree can work.
Katz and Wilpon are both criminals. They have no business being free, let alone owning a baseball team.
Debbie "Downer" Parker strikes again.
 
I actually know the Katz family, part of the ownership. Don't know the Wilpons personally but from my knowledge with the Katz and what I hear about the Wilpons is that they are great people. Smart, sharp businessmen ( though dumb enough like a lot of other very smart folk to get duped by madoff)

That said, it's time. I don't know if it's still a lack of resources or dedication or what, but this is a huge and ongoing disappointment in perhaps the only market where if you keep spending more until you get it right will still provide a monetary (and baseball) ROI. It's not like even a large market where two or three bad deals kills you for a half decade. Build a winner in NY and the revenue just piles in.

But that had never really been the approach. Not to invest more in scouting and the majors and management. I just don't know. But as much as I like and respect the families, as owners it's hard to digest
You own a business that (a) is consistently profitable and (b) guarantees you status in a city where status matters a lot. Why would you even consider selling unless your good buddy Bud forces you out?
I am not questioning THEIR rationale for keeping the team. I'm expressing a fans desire (even though I know them to be very good and charitable people) to have ownership that would like to win - in one of the few markets where buying a championship to some degree can work.
Katz and Wilpon are both criminals. They have no business being free, let alone owning a baseball team.
Your rationale for this? The Katz are a very very solid family, very charitable and kind. So unless you have something more than them sucking at being MLB owners, no need to throw out #### like that.
Criminal conspiracy to defraud not enough?

 
I actually know the Katz family, part of the ownership. Don't know the Wilpons personally but from my knowledge with the Katz and what I hear about the Wilpons is that they are great people. Smart, sharp businessmen ( though dumb enough like a lot of other very smart folk to get duped by madoff)

That said, it's time. I don't know if it's still a lack of resources or dedication or what, but this is a huge and ongoing disappointment in perhaps the only market where if you keep spending more until you get it right will still provide a monetary (and baseball) ROI. It's not like even a large market where two or three bad deals kills you for a half decade. Build a winner in NY and the revenue just piles in.

But that had never really been the approach. Not to invest more in scouting and the majors and management. I just don't know. But as much as I like and respect the families, as owners it's hard to digest
You own a business that (a) is consistently profitable and (b) guarantees you status in a city where status matters a lot. Why would you even consider selling unless your good buddy Bud forces you out?
I am not questioning THEIR rationale for keeping the team. I'm expressing a fans desire (even though I know them to be very good and charitable people) to have ownership that would like to win - in one of the few markets where buying a championship to some degree can work.
Katz and Wilpon are both criminals. They have no business being free, let alone owning a baseball team.
Your rationale for this? The Katz are a very very solid family, very charitable and kind. So unless you have something more than them sucking at being MLB owners, no need to throw out #### like that.
Criminal conspiracy to defraud not enough?
If you are going to throw bombs show some evidence. I actually know the family (Katz), not just reading news clippings. And if you are going to pull the Madoff card, they are guilty of ultimate stupidity for such generally smart people, but hardly more. And I know that personally.

 
If you are going to throw bombs show some evidence. I actually know the family (Katz), not just reading news clippings. And if you are going to pull the Madoff card, they are guilty of ultimate stupidity for such generally smart people, but hardly more. And I know that personally.
How so? Because someone under investigation told you so? Always a reliable source :rolleyes:

 
If you are going to throw bombs show some evidence. I actually know the family (Katz), not just reading news clippings. And if you are going to pull the Madoff card, they are guilty of ultimate stupidity for such generally smart people, but hardly more. And I know that personally.
How so? Because someone under investigation told you so? Always a reliable source :rolleyes:
Because a family friend would not have wanted to get me a job 15 years ago with a guy he thought was a crook.

What's your ####### source? Newspapers and hearsay?

 
If you are going to throw bombs show some evidence. I actually know the family (Katz), not just reading news clippings. And if you are going to pull the Madoff card, they are guilty of ultimate stupidity for such generally smart people, but hardly more. And I know that personally.
How so? Because someone under investigation told you so? Always a reliable source :rolleyes:
Because a family friend would not have wanted to get me a job 15 years ago with a guy he thought was a crook.

What's your ####### source? Newspapers and hearsay?
Your implication is that sourced reporting is somehow less reliable than your impressions based upon a personal relationship.

 
If you are going to throw bombs show some evidence. I actually know the family (Katz), not just reading news clippings. And if you are going to pull the Madoff card, they are guilty of ultimate stupidity for such generally smart people, but hardly more. And I know that personally.
How so? Because someone under investigation told you so? Always a reliable source :rolleyes:
Because a family friend would not have wanted to get me a job 15 years ago with a guy he thought was a crook.

What's your ####### source? Newspapers and hearsay?
Your implication is that sourced reporting is somehow less reliable than your impressions based upon a personal relationship.
My implication is I know the family. What fraud, specifically, are you referring to? Sometimes actually you know, knowing people, is better than sweeping statements that amounted to nothing in the press.

But sure, run with it because it's bombastic when you actually know nothing about the people you accuse. So easy to throw i-bombs from a distance.

 
If you are going to throw bombs show some evidence. I actually know the family (Katz), not just reading news clippings. And if you are going to pull the Madoff card, they are guilty of ultimate stupidity for such generally smart people, but hardly more. And I know that personally.
How so? Because someone under investigation told you so? Always a reliable source :rolleyes:
Because a family friend would not have wanted to get me a job 15 years ago with a guy he thought was a crook.

What's your ####### source? Newspapers and hearsay?
Your implication is that sourced reporting is somehow less reliable than your impressions based upon a personal relationship.
My implication is I know the family. What fraud, specifically, are you referring to? Sometimes actually you know, knowing people, is better than sweeping statements that amounted to nothing in the press.

But sure, run with it because it's bombastic when you actually know nothing about the people you accuse. So easy to throw i-bombs from a distance.
1) I'd have no problem saying this in person

2) You sound utterly naïve. People deceive all the time.

 
Any chance Farnsworth and Valverde recapture some old magic and are a steady 1-2 punch at the back if the bullpen? With the starting staff that would be give us a shot to be in most games. Just need a big bat for the middle of the lineup. ####### joke that Jose Abreu isn't a Met.

 
If you are going to throw bombs show some evidence. I actually know the family (Katz), not just reading news clippings. And if you are going to pull the Madoff card, they are guilty of ultimate stupidity for such generally smart people, but hardly more. And I know that personally.
How so? Because someone under investigation told you so? Always a reliable source :rolleyes:
Because a family friend would not have wanted to get me a job 15 years ago with a guy he thought was a crook.

What's your ####### source? Newspapers and hearsay?
Your implication is that sourced reporting is somehow less reliable than your impressions based upon a personal relationship.
My implication is I know the family. What fraud, specifically, are you referring to? Sometimes actually you know, knowing people, is better than sweeping statements that amounted to nothing in the press.

But sure, run with it because it's bombastic when you actually know nothing about the people you accuse. So easy to throw i-bombs from a distance.
1) I'd have no problem saying this in person

2) You sound utterly naïve. People deceive all the time.
Honestly, you are acting in an aggressive kind of ####### way. I'm hardly naive, but call me out as well without knowing me from a hole in the wall.

Now, if you would actually answer my question as to what fraud issue you are specifically refer to, perhaps I can provide a more accurate reply... If it's an issue I'm not familiar with, I'm hardly stupid enough to think that even good people are immune from doing shady things, but since you refuse to answer a simple question I hardly think that my "naïveté" should be called into question by someone pounding their I-chest.

 
Koya said:
If you are going to throw bombs show some evidence. I actually know the family (Katz), not just reading news clippings. And if you are going to pull the Madoff card, they are guilty of ultimate stupidity for such generally smart people, but hardly more. And I know that personally.
How so? Because someone under investigation told you so? Always a reliable source :rolleyes:
Because a family friend would not have wanted to get me a job 15 years ago with a guy he thought was a crook.

What's your ####### source? Newspapers and hearsay?
Your implication is that sourced reporting is somehow less reliable than your impressions based upon a personal relationship.
My implication is I know the family. What fraud, specifically, are you referring to? Sometimes actually you know, knowing people, is better than sweeping statements that amounted to nothing in the press.

But sure, run with it because it's bombastic when you actually know nothing about the people you accuse. So easy to throw i-bombs from a distance.
1) I'd have no problem saying this in person

2) You sound utterly naïve. People deceive all the time.
Honestly, you are acting in an aggressive kind of ####### way. I'm hardly naive, but call me out as well without knowing me from a hole in the wall.

Now, if you would actually answer my question as to what fraud issue you are specifically refer to, perhaps I can provide a more accurate reply... If it's an issue I'm not familiar with, I'm hardly stupid enough to think that even good people are immune from doing shady things, but since you refuse to answer a simple question I hardly think that my "naïveté" should be called into question by someone pounding their I-chest.
Someone needs some I-calm.

 
Koya said:
If you are going to throw bombs show some evidence. I actually know the family (Katz), not just reading news clippings. And if you are going to pull the Madoff card, they are guilty of ultimate stupidity for such generally smart people, but hardly more. And I know that personally.
How so? Because someone under investigation told you so? Always a reliable source :rolleyes:
Because a family friend would not have wanted to get me a job 15 years ago with a guy he thought was a crook.What's your ####### source? Newspapers and hearsay?
Your implication is that sourced reporting is somehow less reliable than your impressions based upon a personal relationship.
My implication is I know the family. What fraud, specifically, are you referring to? Sometimes actually you know, knowing people, is better than sweeping statements that amounted to nothing in the press.

But sure, run with it because it's bombastic when you actually know nothing about the people you accuse. So easy to throw i-bombs from a distance.
1) I'd have no problem saying this in person

2) You sound utterly naïve. People deceive all the time.
Honestly, you are acting in an aggressive kind of ####### way. I'm hardly naive, but call me out as well without knowing me from a hole in the wall.Now, if you would actually answer my question as to what fraud issue you are specifically refer to, perhaps I can provide a more accurate reply... If it's an issue I'm not familiar with, I'm hardly stupid enough to think that even good people are immune from doing shady things, but since you refuse to answer a simple question I hardly think that my "naïveté" should be called into question by someone pounding their I-chest.
Someone needs some I-calm.
Very calm here. You are the one lobbing bombs, ignoring questions and calling out others naïveté.

I'll leave it to others to judge whose being more polite and responsive in this discussion.

About the third time you've ignored the question as to what fraud to which do you refer.

 

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