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Greg Little hype train (1 Viewer)

az_prof said:
Let this serve as a reminder to all of you who imagine your second round rookie WR is going to be the next Isaac Bruce that a fate like Little's is far more likely.
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Your post made me curious, so here is a list of 2nd rd WRs since 2010:

Aaron Dobson
Alshon Jeffery
Arrelious Benn
Brian Quick
Golden Tate
Greg Little
Justin Hunter
Randall Cobb
Robert Woods
Rueben Randle
Ryan Broyles
Stephen Hill
Titus Young
Torrey Smith

Cobb and Jefferey are huge hits, Smith is solid and I suppose the jury is still out on some of these guys. But overall I think this supports your argument that the busts have higher frequency.

ETA: I think Tate is a solid NFL WR, but hasn't had target volume for fantasy success.
 
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I looked up the 10 years from 2002-2011 and the hit rate for 2nd round WR's was about 25%.

 
Rotoworld:

The Charlotte Observer reports the Panthers have "discussed" free agent Greg Little but don't plan to put in a waiver claim on him.
Little was waived by the Browns on Friday and will very likely get claimed by someone before Monday at 4 PM ET. He has just one year left on his rookie deal at a meager $753,750. The Panthers seem content with Jerricho Cotchery, Kelvin Benjamin, and Jason Avant atop the depth chart. Little went to North Carolina.

Related: Panthers

Source: Charlotte Observer
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Banger said:
ZWK said:
cstu said:
I looked up the 10 years from 2002-2011 and the hit rate for 2nd round WR's was about 25%.
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I got a 22% hit rate for 2nd round WRs drafted 1993-2006, defining a "hit" as 50+ career VBD.
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good stuff...how much does that differ from 1st or 3rd rounders?
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It's all there if you follow the link.

Here are the hit rates for the first 3 rounds:

rd 1 RB (58%)

rd 1 WR (46%)

rd 1 TE (44%)

rd 1 QB (36%)

rd 2 RB (29%)

rd 2 QB (27%)

rd 2 WR (22%)

rd 3 RB (20%)

rd 3 WR (14%)

rd 2 TE (11%)

rd 3 TE (8%)

rd 3 QB (6%)

 
Zero continuity in Cleveland as usual. Yet another in what I'd guess is 10-15 years of their WR going from promising to yuck. There aren't enough coaches remaining to blame the coaches, the system is different with each new regime.

There's nothing wrong with Little being 5th WR because four guys beat him out. Probably for that entire 10-15 year window, involved NFL fans can't tell you who cleveland's 4,5,6 WR are and only know the 3rd if he's about to supplant the #2. It's like next guy in the dunk tank, let's throw some balls at the target and see if he falls down.

If a player shows he can produce at the NFL level, despite the lack of talent around, the high number of broken plays, or being the defense's focus, then you've got something to work with in a rookie or 2nd year WR.

Look at the Giants, their fans, and Jernigan. He can play for them for the next four years, never get in a game, and no one will bark because he had a handful of productive games.

Even the best young WRs need tons of work and coaching to be good in the NFL. The Browns keep landing players that can produce some and never develop them.

I think you could make a sound argument that Little is worse now than when he was a rookie. Short of Michael Clayton that's odd in the NFL everywhere except in Cleveland. There needs to be an almost guarantee that players improve once they make the team-it can be one we take for granted and isn't always true, but there should be this mirage that it happens with every good young player.

So many of this year's crop of rookie WRs will never produce the amount of catches and yards Little did.

 
Oakland needs to figure out a way drill him like crazy so that he loses his case of the drops. Recently, he and Kenny Britt both looked like oh what happened to you? You can't even catch the ball. They don't get the rookie WR, they get this guy that lost his confidence and seems almost confused.

 
cdubz said:
az_prof said:
Let this serve as a reminder to all of you who imagine your second round rookie WR is going to be the next Isaac Bruce that a fate like Little's is far more likely.
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Your post made me curious, so here is a list of 2nd rd WRs since 2010:

Aaron Dobson
Alshon Jeffery
Arrelious Benn
Brian Quick
Golden Tate
Greg Little
Justin Hunter
Randall Cobb
Robert Woods
Rueben Randle
Ryan Broyles
Stephen Hill
Titus Young
Torrey Smith

Cobb and Jefferey are huge hits, Smith is solid and I suppose the jury is still out on some of these guys. But overall I think this supports your argument that the busts have higher frequency.

ETA: I think Tate is a solid NFL WR, but hasn't had target volume for fantasy success.
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Little / Benn / Quick / Young are complete busts (Young had a little promise).

Hill and Woods still have a chance

Broyles was an injury risk to begin with

Dobson is a nice sleeper this yr

Randle was a nice sleeper

Hunter might take that next step

Smith, Cobb, Jeffery are FF starters

overall not bad

 
Broyles is a bust. Injuries coming in, as you said, but even when healthy I'm sure fans aren't saying there's the guy that caught the most catches in college history or whatever record he broke. I enjoyed meeting him and watching him play at OU, but he has not done well in the NFL.

Brian Quick people gave time to in order to develop. I figure after this year, he's a bust and has met whatever time-frame window he's allowed. He has to produce in 2014

 
ZWK said:
Banger said:
ZWK said:
cstu said:
I looked up the 10 years from 2002-2011 and the hit rate for 2nd round WR's was about 25%.
Click to expand...
I got a 22% hit rate for 2nd round WRs drafted 1993-2006, defining a "hit" as 50+ career VBD.
Click to expand...
good stuff...how much does that differ from 1st or 3rd rounders?
Click to expand...
It's all there if you follow the link.

Here are the hit rates for the first 3 rounds:

rd 1 RB (58%)

rd 1 WR (46%)

rd 1 TE (44%)

rd 1 QB (36%)

rd 2 RB (29%)

rd 2 QB (27%)

rd 2 WR (22%)

rd 3 RB (20%)

rd 3 WR (14%)

rd 2 TE (11%)

rd 3 TE (8%)

rd 3 QB (6%)
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that's awesome...thanks.

 
This train crashed, burned, and was already sprinkled into the sewer. Sure hope no one is foolish enough to spend a pick on him.

 
Rotoworld:

Bengals signed WR Greg Little.

It's an indication the Bengals expect A.J. Green (toe) to miss Week 7, though it could also be related to the status of Marvin Jones (foot/ankle). Either way, Little will bring up the dregs of the Bengals' receiver corps after he couldn't crack the Raiders' 53-man roster this summer.

Source: Profootballtalk on Twitter

Oct 14 - 2:12 PM
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Fire this sum##### back up.

Not really, but kinda hoping he actually catches on for once and catches a pass for once.

 
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