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Do You Trust Jeffery and Forte in Week 16? (1 Viewer)

So worried about Forte. He didn't play well on Thanksgiving against them. Hard to trust him, but it's hard not to play him since he has potential to get catches. Asiata got all kinds of points last week from receptions against the Lions.

 
I'm a Forte owner who is making alternate plans -- either Tre Mason or Joseph Randle based on Murray's availability. The Bears offense (O-line in particular) looked disinterested last night; they will be destroyed by the Lions front seven.

I'm elated Forte helped me reach a championship game but I believe there are many higher upside plays in week 16.

 
IMO you'd have to have some pretty awesome options to sit Forte.

I actually have Forte going in one final and Alshon in the other.

Tough matchup, but benching either of them hasn't even crossed my mind.

 
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just_want_2_win said:
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Why garbage points galore especially for jeffery
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You hope.
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Yeah. If Ingram went down after he got the 1st which he should have done then all those garbage points would have been gone. Garbage points are great, but they are far from guaranteed.

That being said, you'd have to have some really good options to bench Forte or Jeffery.

 
I'm trying to figure out if I trust Cutler. He played well on Thanksgiving (fantasy wise). If somehow they pull him, which makes no sense because Clausen is not someone they need to evaluate, then everyone on the Bears offense is in trouble. Based on last night, it sure didn't seem like they wanted to do that. This isn't a team that has a backup that could be the starter next year, so I think Cutler plays all game, barring injury.

 
As a lifelong Detroiter, I can assure you that the Lions will #### the bed and possibly lose to the Bears. Cutler, Forte, Jeffery, Bennett are all solid starts IMO.

 
stbugs said:
I'm trying to figure out if I trust Cutler. He played well on Thanksgiving (fantasy wise). If somehow they pull him, which makes no sense because Clausen is not someone they need to evaluate, then everyone on the Bears offense is in trouble. Based on last night, it sure didn't seem like they wanted to do that. This isn't a team that has a backup that could be the starter next year, so I think Cutler plays all game, barring injury.
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I am more concerned that he will get knocked out of the game than actually benched but both are a concern. As is the obvious concern that he plays but is just bad. Tough call.

Last home game of the season for Chi and against a Div rival. If there is any fight left in them, I would think it comes out and they play hard/better than they did last night. Kitties have taken the last 3 games in the series. Would not shock me if the Bears pull out a win but its definitely something I would not feel real good betting on.

FWIW, if I had Forte I would be starting him. Probably Jeffery, too. I have Cutler and I am likely going with him though its not at all a secure feeling.

ETA: well, all bets off now with Claussen in. Forte probably still a start but I cant honestly say I'd go with any part of the passing game. No earthly idea what Claussen is going to do against a tough D in first action is a long time. Too risky for my blood.

 
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I trust Jeffery more than Forte based on Detroit defense....but with the sieve that is the Chicago line, I am not sure Cutler will have time to get it to either one of them. Any points Forte gets will be on screens, and Jeffery will have to get YaC to get any sort of yardage. Hell this could be a ground an pound from Detroit - hello Joique Bell and Theo Riddick.

 
Crazy to sit either this week. Forte especially. Don't think you can sit him ever.

He obviously helped you get this far. Ride what got you here.

 
Keerock said:
As a lifelong Detroiter, I can assure you that the Lions will #### the bed and possibly lose to the Bears. Cutler, Forte, Jeffery, Bennett are all solid starts IMO.
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The Lions will definitely not go for the kill like New Orleans did. They would rather keep it close, kick a FG to take the lead and hope the other team doesn't beat them with their own game winning FG. ####### idiots. You got Calvin Johnson and you don't even use him correctly.

 
Despite the Bears' collapse, you know Forte is pretty much guaranteed at least 15-20 touches and all the goal line looks. Can't imagine sitting him unless you have other clear cut better options.

As for Jeffrey, also a no-brainer unless you are loaded at WR.

 
whiskey7 said:
stbugs said:
I'm trying to figure out if I trust Cutler. He played well on Thanksgiving (fantasy wise). If somehow they pull him, which makes no sense because Clausen is not someone they need to evaluate, then everyone on the Bears offense is in trouble. Based on last night, it sure didn't seem like they wanted to do that. This isn't a team that has a backup that could be the starter next year, so I think Cutler plays all game, barring injury.
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I am more concerned that he will get knocked out of the game than actually benched but both are a concern. As is the obvious concern that he plays but is just bad. Tough call. Last home game of the season for Chi and against a Div rival. If there is any fight left in them, I would think it comes out and they play hard/better than they did last night. Kitties have taken the last 3 games in the series. Would not shock me if the Bears pull out a win but its definitely something I would not feel real good betting on.

FWIW, if I had Forte I would be starting him. Probably Jeffery, too. I have Cutler and I am likely going with him though its not at all a secure feeling.
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I have cutler and forte. I can't imagine sitting forte although my options include hill and mason. I guess I'm all in on da Bears!
 
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I might sit Forte this week for T. Mason, I'll at least consider it. I'm in a non-PPR league but I get bonus 5 points at 100 yards rushing/receiving. I don't see any scenario that Forte can get me the bonus points this week. Also, Forte has has some pretty low scoring games against good run defenses SF (3.6), NYJ (7.6), and DET (5.8). Plus, the whole CHI offense is on a downward trend. They just look disinterested at best, or like they have quit at worst.

Mason has looked decent against the good run defenses that he has faced even though he didn't light up any of them. He's also coming off a bad performance against ARI. However, he did light up OAK and NYG is a much better matchup than that DET.

So it looks to me like their floors are similar but Mason has a higher ceiling and at least has a chance to get 100 yards and reach the bonus points.

 
If Forte plays the last drive last night and gets 7 yards or catches 1 ball I'd have a chance to play him this week.

 
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I have to trust Forte since Arrington went to IR. I still think with catches he can be relevant and has a decent chance to score. I think I'm off the Cutler boat. I don't have great options but either Eli or Tannehill look like the safer play for my championship.

 
I actually like Jeffery. Maybe Clausen will get in the game and when that happens usually there is more urgency from the offense. He will lock in to Jeffery.

 
Jeffrey has scored 4-5 weeks in a row and is getting a good amount of targets, so contemplating benching him is ludicrous. As for Forte, I'd start him as well but temper expectations.

 
I doubt anyone would bench either player. Great thread however to try and get your opponent to bench one of them.

 
FWIW, 4for4.com, (John Paulsen, top 3 forecaster for years straight), has Forte as rb2 this week.

 
I finally make my FF superbowl and now the bears are quitting on their coach...will still start Forte but will most likely sit Bennet for Gates at TE. Should've know not to trust those FIBS!

 
I don't trust them any less than guys like Lesean McCoy. Forte at least (usually) gets a ton of targets, and Jeffrey is gonna get heavily targeted w/ Marshall out.

 
Forte was three feet from a TD catch on the first good drive in second half. Line looks pretty good with that if he gets in. All about opportunity.

 
Based on the Game Predictor, CHI is projected to get 68 rushing yards and 0.6 TDs while STL is projected to get 124 rushing yards and 0.8 TDs.

If we assign 100% of those rushing stats (10.4 points) to Forte and we give him 52 receiving yards (5.2) because that's what he accumulated in the last game VS DET, he is projected for 15.6 points. But who knows how much time he will get this week? They may want to give more playing time to Carey to get a look at him.

Now, if we assign only 90% of the STL rushing stats (15.5) to Mason and we give him 0 receiving yards (0), he is projected for 15.5 points in standard scoring... essentially the same projections.

I play in non-PPR and get a 5 point bonus at 100 yards rushing... so this scoring system plays a big part in my thinking. Those projections for Forte sure seem like a ceiling that will be difficult to reach and I don't see any way he reaches 100 yards to get me the bonus. In fact, if Mason reaches 90% of the 124 projected rushing yards that would be 111 giving me the 5pt bonus for a total of 20.5 projected points.

I'll typically just stick with the stud but will often look for reasons not to play the stud. Everything I have here, coupled with the fact that Clausen is starting are huge red flags for me.
 
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Well, at least I know not to start Cutler, but man, no way I would trust Jeffery or Forte. You probably can't bench them, but Clausen is not the answer. Us folks in Carolina know how bad he was. Maybe Forte gets a lot of dump offs, but I couldn't trust him to do anything.

Honestly, the decision to bench Cutler by the Bears baffles me. I can see some thoughts that a) you don't want Cutler to beat Detroit because maybe it shows you that you shouldn't dump him or b) you don't want to have him do so horribly that people won't want to trade for him. That said, if Clausen looks like crap and Detroit absolutely blows the Bears out, then I think the coaches fates are 100% sealed because it makes it looks like Cutler may not have been the "problem" and they will be awful without him next year. I just think the chance that Clausen looks awful is way above the other options.

 
Jeffery's value just went up - we are talking 18-20 targets, 15 recpt over 200 yards and a couple tds. Book it.

ETA that is 15 recpt AND over 200 yards, 15 recpt of over 200 yards would be not possible, though if it were would make for a HUGE stat line.

 
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I have Forte in one league and Jeffery in two others. Forte should catch about 30 dumpoffs from a frightened Jimmy.

Totally concerned about Alshon though.

 
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