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Preseason IDP Notes and New Tiers (1 Viewer)

Jene Bramel

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Lots of good stuff in the forum right now. Thanks to all of you who continue to contribute and make this board such a great place to come for information.

I released a new set of tiers, with notes, trends and ADP data on every player listed, today:

DL - http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/article.php?article=14bramel_defensive_line_tiers_midcampupdate

LB - http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/article.php?article=14bramel_linebacker_tiers_midcampupdate

DB - http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/article.php?article=14bramel_defensive_back_tiers_midcampupdate

John and I also had features with key notes from around the league after the first few weeks of preseason practices and game action

EOTG - http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/article.php?article=14guru_pre1_revu

RTD - http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/article.php?article=14bramel_rtd_preseason_notes_1

We're recording the podcast weekly now and I'm planning to do everything in my power to have the tiers update on each of the next two Tuesdays. With luck, I'll have the IDP perfect draft ready by Thursday night.

 
Just curious, Jene: You have 2 different sets of LB tiers with vastly different rankings. For example, in this LB Tier article (updated 8/21, it says), you have Collins listed in almost the last tier, "Redraft Watch List". In this tier article (updated on 8/20) you have Collins in Tier 2A, and listed as a Value.

As you can tell, I'm tracking Collins, and went to the latest article you wrote on 8/21 to see your opinion. He had tumbled tiers. So I came to the forums, and see you listed the 8/20 "Mid Camp Update" as your latest ranking, and have Collins ranked much higher, even though the other article says it's more recent.

I haven't gotten to see Collins on the field lately, and am very interested, but now I'm just hella confused. :blush:

 
There must just be an error with that 21/8 link - it looks like that article is from quite a while ago since it still has Lee, Kiko etc with pre-injury comments. The 20/8 article would be the most up to date one.

 
There must just be an error with that 21/8 link - it looks like that article is from quite a while ago since it still has Lee, Kiko etc with pre-injury comments. The 20/8 article would be the most up to date one.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking after looking at it again. I just glanced to see what he thought about Collins and didn't really check out the rest of the article at the time.

They should fix that date.

 
There must just be an error with that 21/8 link - it looks like that article is from quite a while ago since it still has Lee, Kiko etc with pre-injury comments. The 20/8 article would be the most up to date one.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking after looking at it again. I just glanced to see what he thought about Collins and didn't really check out the rest of the article at the time.

They should fix that date.
:confused:

The date on that article is April not August...

 
There must just be an error with that 21/8 link - it looks like that article is from quite a while ago since it still has Lee, Kiko etc with pre-injury comments. The 20/8 article would be the most up to date one.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking after looking at it again. I just glanced to see what he thought about Collins and didn't really check out the rest of the article at the time.

They should fix that date.
:confused:

The date on that article is April not August...
It is now, but it wasn't. ;)

 
Hoss Style said:
Frank Costanza said:
Hoss Style said:
RushHour said:
There must just be an error with that 21/8 link - it looks like that article is from quite a while ago since it still has Lee, Kiko etc with pre-injury comments. The 20/8 article would be the most up to date one.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking after looking at it again. I just glanced to see what he thought about Collins and didn't really check out the rest of the article at the time.

They should fix that date.
:confused:

The date on that article is April not August...
It is now, but it wasn't. ;)
That's weird. I haven't done anything with the dates on the articles. The CMS system shows that the last time that article was edited -- which is almost always by me, and usually only done later due to goofiness in how the mag version looks versus the online version -- was April 21.

I think that was the first set of 2014 tiers. I was hoping to be able to edit those first versions and use a running update system. I quickly decided it made more sense to post completely new updates due to the difficulty in editing the tables and to allow folks to go back and track the comments, etc.

I added the notes, trend and ADP columns this year. I think they're helpful but I'm open to feedback on how to do things next year.

 
Hoss Style said:
Frank Costanza said:
Hoss Style said:
RushHour said:
There must just be an error with that 21/8 link - it looks like that article is from quite a while ago since it still has Lee, Kiko etc with pre-injury comments. The 20/8 article would be the most up to date one.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking after looking at it again. I just glanced to see what he thought about Collins and didn't really check out the rest of the article at the time.

They should fix that date.
:confused:

The date on that article is April not August...
It is now, but it wasn't. ;)
That's weird. I haven't done anything with the dates on the articles. The CMS system shows that the last time that article was edited -- which is almost always by me, and usually only done later due to goofiness in how the mag version looks versus the online version -- was April 21.

I think that was the first set of 2014 tiers. I was hoping to be able to edit those first versions and use a running update system. I quickly decided it made more sense to post completely new updates due to the difficulty in editing the tables and to allow folks to go back and track the comments, etc.

I added the notes, trend and ADP columns this year. I think they're helpful but I'm open to feedback on how to do things next year.
Well, somehow it got corrected. "rush hour" who posted after me, I'm sure checked the date first thing to see if I was wrong or not, and knowing these boards I would have been called out almost immediately if I was. I don't know what to say. The only reason I noticed it is because it was with the latest articles down at the bottom of the "Mid Camp" update. I noticed it said August 21st. Checked it, and then checked the date again to make sure I wasn't losing it. Then checked it again before I posted, just to make sure. It's not at the bottom with that group anymore, either.

I know time stamps and stuff, but maybe it wouldn't apply to a date change at the header? Heck, I don't know. I never would have noticed it if it wasn't at the bottom of the article with the other recent articles. Even if I doubted my eyes, that tells me I'm not losing it, because that's where I clicked on it initially - now it's not there. Call me crazy. I've been called worse. :)

 
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There must just be an error with that 21/8 link - it looks like that article is from quite a while ago since it still has Lee, Kiko etc with pre-injury comments. The 20/8 article would be the most up to date one.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking after looking at it again. I just glanced to see what he thought about Collins and didn't really check out the rest of the article at the time.

They should fix that date.
:confused:

The date on that article is April not August...
It is now, but it wasn't. ;)
That's weird. I haven't done anything with the dates on the articles. The CMS system shows that the last time that article was edited -- which is almost always by me, and usually only done later due to goofiness in how the mag version looks versus the online version -- was April 21.

I think that was the first set of 2014 tiers. I was hoping to be able to edit those first versions and use a running update system. I quickly decided it made more sense to post completely new updates due to the difficulty in editing the tables and to allow folks to go back and track the comments, etc.

I added the notes, trend and ADP columns this year. I think they're helpful but I'm open to feedback on how to do things next year.
Well, somehow it got corrected. "rush hour" who posted after me, I'm sure checked the date first thing to see if I was wrong or not, and knowing these boards I would have been called out almost immediately if I was. I don't know what to say. The only reason I noticed it is because it was with the latest articles down at the bottom of the "Mid Camp" update. I noticed it said August 21st. Checked it, and then checked the date again to make sure I wasn't losing it. Then checked it again before I posted, just to make sure. It's not at the bottom with that group anymore, either.

I know time stamps and stuff, but maybe it wouldn't apply to a date change at the header? Heck, I don't know. I never would have noticed it if it wasn't at the bottom of the article with the other recent articles. Even if I doubted my eyes, that tells me I'm not losing it, because that's where I clicked on it initially - now it's not there. Call me crazy. I've been called worse. :)
Not at all. I'm glad you posted. It's something I'll watch for in future articles.

 
Curious there is no mention of T.J. McDonald in the DB Tiers. Coming off injury so maybe below the radar. Seems like a nice breakout candidate in the Gregg Williams defense. Was all around the ball in the second preseason game. Is he rotating with someone?

 
Curious there is no mention of T.J. McDonald in the DB Tiers. Coming off injury so maybe below the radar. Seems like a nice breakout candidate in the Gregg Williams defense. Was all around the ball in the second preseason game. Is he rotating with someone?
I think it was an oversight. Through my analysis I got him late in every league and think he will finish as a top 20 safety barring injury.

 
Not a whole lot of movement, but I updated my tiers over the past two days and adjusted the ADP columns. I'll be updating each article as needed until Sunday, when I'll be switching to inseason mode. There will be new tier articles sporadically during the season, but the primary focus will be weekly notes and analysis.

DL http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/article.php?article=14bramel_defensive_line_tiers_final

LB http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/article.php?article=14bramel_linebacker_tiers_final

DB http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/article.php?article=14bramel_defensive_back_tiers_final

We recorded an extended length podcast last night, too. The first 10 minutes were strategy based and we then moved on to discuss the key changes in the IDP landscape over the past ten days. I'll link that podcast here when Cecil is finished processing.

 

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