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***OFFICIAL 'The Walking Dead' TV Series Thread*** (6 Viewers)

So how did Ricks crew got in without them knowing it? Where were all the people with guns then?
I think they knew.
I agree. I still think it is funny that a team of people that prepared wasn't already on the lookout. Or do they all think Mary just stands there cooking all day? There are things like scopes and binoculars and OMG, scouts. With the amount of ammo they wasted, I am pretty sure these guys are a lot more well stocked than we are used to seeing. I stand by one of my original comments that I think these guys are ex-military or FBI, etc. That may have been why they don't trust anymore. They may have been trying to help people and got screwed over.

TIS - I am starting to come around again to them not being cannibals. Maybe they are or maybe that pile of bones was a scare tactic/setup. I've been saying that I believe they organized the snare very well, yet I didn't even think about that being a plant like the items from Maggie and Glen.

 
Ok kiddoes I have a new theory.

You remember Herschel and the barn and how they were keeping loved ones alive because they were just sick?

Maybe they have all their turned loved ones in a warehouse or something and are feeding them people while they look for a cure?

I have found a couple of deleted scene pics and that is the impression I got.

You put these pics together with the used bones outside and maybe zombie chow? Or other scientific testing subjects.

This first one had Daryll on the right and Carl on the left so it appears to be cut from the running through Terminus sequence.

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140331185615/walkingdead/images/1/11/The-walking-dead-bones_2.jpg

Here is a close of the bones in case you wondering, yeah human foot.

http://media.comicbook.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/the-walking-dead-deleted-bones.jpg
Hmmm. Lot of bones on the floor in the first pic. No surprise that was deleted. Gimple may have thought that was giving away too much info.

Perhaps they're feeding humans to the walkers and then taking what's left over for their "plate."
My thoughts have changed from them being cannibals to them simply snaring people to feed their walkers (ala Hershel feeding chickens to his family).

It's possible that they are also cannibals but they could be getting the meat they're grilling from animals they're raising. Most likely it's a misdirection that the living Termites are cannibals.

 
Alex, as Mary serves up some plates of BBQ, "More people become part of us, we get stronger. That's why we put up the signs. Invite people in. That's how we survive."

They're cannibals. Let's not over-think this.

 
when terminus folks disarmed rick and crew why give them their guns back? if they are gonna eat them why not just force them into the train car when they had no guns?
I believe at that time the Termites were considering allowing their new guests to join the collective. It wasn't until Rick threw a hissy fit that a line was crossed, "They can't trust us anymore," and then they became livestock, and as such were herded into the boxcar.
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Why is that so hard to believe? I agree with him. Why not just disarm them and march them into the train car? I mentioned above that I thought it was a test. They left them armed. They had people in the grill area playing with Glen's riot gear, their sleeping bag, Maggie's poncho and Herschel's watch. They had snipers at the ready all along the path and there were also well armed people that popped out into the court yard as soon as Rick reacted. Why in the world would they do that if they didn't want to first see Rick's crew's reaction. Again, it seems really simple to me. They don't likely get many visitors, so why wouldn't they want to confirm that the next crew in wasn't the backups for Maggie et al?

I think they are looking for people they can trust to join their ranks, but as soon as there is no trust, they lock them up. It was written on the walls that they had trust issues.
So you think they gave Glen et al the same test and they failed it as well?
No. First of all, I may be wrong. Second, let's suppose Glen's crew was the first set of visitors they had seen in a while and let's just assume that for some reason they were put in the rail car. We don't know why yet, but they were. OK, with that set, Rick's crew sneaks in soon after. Based on the "church" we know that the Terminus folks have been burned before based on the never trust anyone writing on the wall.

So, with that all in place, isn't it reasonable to think that Rick's crew might be the backup crew for Glen's crew, i.e half goes in to check it out and the other half comes in later when they don't hear back? I am not even trying to assume that Terminus has spies that saw what happened at the prison or that they overheard Glen's crew talk about Rick. I am just thinking that a very suspicious set of Terminus people would think that there could be a connection or that they assume a whole group (who had survived this long) wouldn't go in all at once without a backup plan.

I don't know what test Glen's team got because I have no idea how long it had been since the last visitors and I don't know if maybe Carol and Tyrese were already there. What I do think is that the Terminus folks purposely flaunting Glen's crew's items to Rick's team and were prepped for any reaction. I don't know what the test meant and what the alternative results could have been, but I don't think any of that setup was by accident, especially given the whole snare/trap theme of the episode.
If the Terminus people knew Rick's crew was the 'backup' crew for Glenn and Maggie's crew, why would they feel the need to 'test' Rick's crew if Glenn's crew already failed their 'test' (and thus got put in a boxcar)? Wouldn't the natural assumption of the Terminus people be that they couldn't trust this second group either, and just herded them straight to the boxcar to begin with, once they got them outside in the courtyard after getting surprised? The items were not a 'test'.

 
when terminus folks disarmed rick and crew why give them their guns back? if they are gonna eat them why not just force them into the train car when they had no guns?
I believe at that time the Termites were considering allowing their new guests to join the collective. It wasn't until Rick threw a hissy fit that a line was crossed, "They can't trust us anymore," and then they became livestock, and as such were herded into the boxcar.
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Why is that so hard to believe? I agree with him. Why not just disarm them and march them into the train car? I mentioned above that I thought it was a test. They left them armed. They had people in the grill area playing with Glen's riot gear, their sleeping bag, Maggie's poncho and Herschel's watch. They had snipers at the ready all along the path and there were also well armed people that popped out into the court yard as soon as Rick reacted. Why in the world would they do that if they didn't want to first see Rick's crew's reaction. Again, it seems really simple to me. They don't likely get many visitors, so why wouldn't they want to confirm that the next crew in wasn't the backups for Maggie et al?

I think they are looking for people they can trust to join their ranks, but as soon as there is no trust, they lock them up. It was written on the walls that they had trust issues.
So you think they gave Glen et al the same test and they failed it as well?
No. First of all, I may be wrong. Second, let's suppose Glen's crew was the first set of visitors they had seen in a while and let's just assume that for some reason they were put in the rail car. We don't know why yet, but they were. OK, with that set, Rick's crew sneaks in soon after. Based on the "church" we know that the Terminus folks have been burned before based on the never trust anyone writing on the wall.

So, with that all in place, isn't it reasonable to think that Rick's crew might be the backup crew for Glen's crew, i.e half goes in to check it out and the other half comes in later when they don't hear back? I am not even trying to assume that Terminus has spies that saw what happened at the prison or that they overheard Glen's crew talk about Rick. I am just thinking that a very suspicious set of Terminus people would think that there could be a connection or that they assume a whole group (who had survived this long) wouldn't go in all at once without a backup plan.

I don't know what test Glen's team got because I have no idea how long it had been since the last visitors and I don't know if maybe Carol and Tyrese were already there. What I do think is that the Terminus folks purposely flaunting Glen's crew's items to Rick's team and were prepped for any reaction. I don't know what the test meant and what the alternative results could have been, but I don't think any of that setup was by accident, especially given the whole snare/trap theme of the episode.
If the Terminus people knew Rick's crew was the 'backup' crew for Glenn and Maggie's crew, why would they feel the need to 'test' Rick's crew if Glenn's crew already failed their 'test' (and thus got put in a boxcar)? Wouldn't the natural assumption of the Terminus people be that they couldn't trust this second group either, and just herded them straight to the boxcar to begin with, once they got them outside in the courtyard after getting surprised? The items were not a 'test'.
I didn't say they knew Rick's crew was the backup. I am saying they were prepared that a backup crew could be coming. Again, they are on edge when it comes to trust and they are well prepared. My thought is that they put the items out there to confirm if Rick's crew was the backup crew and that this is their plan for when one group comes in and they aren't sure if a backup/rescue team will soon follow.

I am not sure why this concept is so hard to get. Again, maybe I am wrong, but if Terminus got burned before by others where they were trying to be helpful, is it that far fetched to think they have things setup to test incoming groups? They check out a group when they arrive, but then they also put backup crew mode in place when one shows up. Seems pretty logical in this world that if a group has bad intentions that they would split up to gain an advantage. I just think they create a test to see if a crew that shows up soon after is really there to find/rescue the first group.

 
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I am caught up through the current issue w/ the comic now.

It reads pretty quick.

No Terminus in there at all.

So so so MUCH of the story happens after the prison, I imagine that Terminus will be a quickish detour.

 
I am caught up through the current issue w/ the comic now.

It reads pretty quick.

No Terminus in there at all.

So so so MUCH of the story happens after the prison, I imagine that Terminus will be a quickish detour.
They built it up pretty much all last season with the signs and stuff. Seems unlikely they'd just be done with it a couple episodes in. :shrug:

 
Probably already been hashed a hundred times, but what is your favorite episode of the series? Mine is Nebraska (8th episode of the 2nd season). I love the bar seen where Rick shoots the two guys wanting to know where the farm is. I also think the 2nd season was the best season.

 
Probably already been hashed a hundred times, but what is your favorite episode of the series? Mine is Nebraska (8th episode of the 2nd season). I love the bar seen where Rick shoots the two guys wanting to know where the farm is. I also think the 2nd season was the best season.
Mine is probably the one right before that, where Sophia comes out of the barn.

ETA: Agree that the 2nd season was my favorite, though I know lots of people thought it was too slow.

 
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Pretty big spoiler for tv fans if this is true, seriously, don't click through the links if you haven't read the comics or don't want to take the chance on being spoiled.

For comic's fans, seems a bit soon, right? Maybe cliffhanger for the end of the upcoming season? Even that seems too soon for this to happen considering how they keep trying to draw out the story from the comics.

https://twitter.com/Walking_News/status/471669598736375808

https://twitter.com/Walking_News/status/471695760715956224

Course, it is being denied "by good sources" as well:

http://www.twdenthusiasts.com/2014/05/father-gabriel-spotted-on-set-possible-death-to-come-the-walking-dead-season-5/
There are "good sources" denying this spoiler as well now. So probably nothing to see here. But it is coming...

 
Pretty big spoiler for tv fans if this is true, seriously, don't click through the links if you haven't read the comics or don't want to take the chance on being spoiled.

For comic's fans, seems a bit soon, right? Maybe cliffhanger for the end of the upcoming season? Even that seems too soon for this to happen considering how they keep trying to draw out the story from the comics.

https://twitter.com/Walking_News/status/471669598736375808

https://twitter.com/Walking_News/status/471695760715956224

Course, it is being denied "by good sources" as well:

http://www.twdenthusiasts.com/2014/05/father-gabriel-spotted-on-set-possible-death-to-come-the-walking-dead-season-5/
There are "good sources" denying this spoiler as well now. So probably nothing to see here. But it is coming...

If so, it does not match up to the comic timeline at all. But who knows... Andrea is still alive in the comics, and all wifed up to Rick... The show doesn't follow the comic verbatim obviously.
 
Probably already been hashed a hundred times, but what is your favorite episode of the series? Mine is Nebraska (8th episode of the 2nd season). I love the bar seen where Rick shoots the two guys wanting to know where the farm is. I also think the 2nd season was the best season.
Mine is probably the one right before that, where Sophia comes out of the barn.

ETA: Agree that the 2nd season was my favorite, though I know lots of people thought it was too slow.
Last episode of Season 2
 
First season was amazing. I'm not very impressed with the direction (flee, safety, danger, bad people - rinse and repeat).

 
Barn scene shooting all the walkers and then Sofia coming out. That was the best episode for me. Shane going all crazy, "she just took 2 in the chest, and she's still comin".

 
First season was amazing. I'm not very impressed with the direction (flee, safety, danger, bad people - rinse and repeat).
well short of adding aliens from outer space or the group becoming wizards or fire breathing dragons erupting through the surface of the earth im not sure what else they can do but fight ...run...repeat...its the characters that need to be the engine here...and great special effects

 
First season was amazing. I'm not very impressed with the direction (flee, safety, danger, bad people - rinse and repeat).
well short of adding aliens from outer space or the group becoming wizards or fire breathing dragons erupting through the surface of the earth im not sure what else they can do but fight ...run...repeat...its the characters that need to be the engine here...and great special effects
Yeah, it is either a show of repeating themes with different people or it is a show about farming.

 
stbugs said:
BustedKnuckles said:
mr roboto said:
First season was amazing. I'm not very impressed with the direction (flee, safety, danger, bad people - rinse and repeat).
well short of adding aliens from outer space or the group becoming wizards or fire breathing dragons erupting through the surface of the earth im not sure what else they can do but fight ...run...repeat...its the characters that need to be the engine here...and great special effects
Yeah, it is either a show of repeating themes with different people or it is a show about farming.
I guess I'd like to see more about the virus, a larger narrative about attempts to band together beyond small regional cells, and a bigger story arch. Otherwise there isn't a driving point (other than how these 10 people cope and quite frankly with few exceptions these people are poorly developed).
 
stbugs said:
BustedKnuckles said:
mr roboto said:
First season was amazing. I'm not very impressed with the direction (flee, safety, danger, bad people - rinse and repeat).
well short of adding aliens from outer space or the group becoming wizards or fire breathing dragons erupting through the surface of the earth im not sure what else they can do but fight ...run...repeat...its the characters that need to be the engine here...and great special effects
Yeah, it is either a show of repeating themes with different people or it is a show about farming.
I guess I'd like to see more about the virus, a larger narrative about attempts to band together beyond small regional cells, and a bigger story arch. Otherwise there isn't a driving point (other than how these 10 people cope and quite frankly with few exceptions these people are poorly developed).
Good, no, excellent posting.

 
stbugs said:
BustedKnuckles said:
mr roboto said:
First season was amazing. I'm not very impressed with the direction (flee, safety, danger, bad people - rinse and repeat).
well short of adding aliens from outer space or the group becoming wizards or fire breathing dragons erupting through the surface of the earth im not sure what else they can do but fight ...run...repeat...its the characters that need to be the engine here...and great special effects
Yeah, it is either a show of repeating themes with different people or it is a show about farming.
I guess I'd like to see more about the virus, a larger narrative about attempts to band together beyond small regional cells, and a bigger story arch. Otherwise there isn't a driving point (other than how these 10 people cope and quite frankly with few exceptions these people are poorly developed).
As has been discussed many times, that's a different show. This show is about this small group of people trying to survive. :shrug:

A bigger story is bigger than these characters.

 
stbugs said:
BustedKnuckles said:
mr roboto said:
First season was amazing. I'm not very impressed with the direction (flee, safety, danger, bad people - rinse and repeat).
well short of adding aliens from outer space or the group becoming wizards or fire breathing dragons erupting through the surface of the earth im not sure what else they can do but fight ...run...repeat...its the characters that need to be the engine here...and great special effects
Yeah, it is either a show of repeating themes with different people or it is a show about farming.
I guess I'd like to see more about the virus, a larger narrative about attempts to band together beyond small regional cells, and a bigger story arch. Otherwise there isn't a driving point (other than how these 10 people cope and quite frankly with few exceptions these people are poorly developed).
As has been discussed many times, that's a different show. This show is about this small group of people trying to survive. :shrug:

A bigger story is bigger than these characters.
Agreed, if you want to watch World War Z or I Am Legend, then watch those movies. A show about the source of the virus and trying to combat that turns into a movie, because people will complain about not solving the virus. I am not sure you can make a successful multi-season show that concentrates more on the virus. Plenty of zombie movies like that.

I like the show and like that it is about the small group trying to survive. Funny about the complaints, because god forbid they tried to make it about the virus itself, the number of complaints would go through the roof.

 
stbugs said:
BustedKnuckles said:
mr roboto said:
First season was amazing. I'm not very impressed with the direction (flee, safety, danger, bad people - rinse and repeat).
well short of adding aliens from outer space or the group becoming wizards or fire breathing dragons erupting through the surface of the earth im not sure what else they can do but fight ...run...repeat...its the characters that need to be the engine here...and great special effects
Yeah, it is either a show of repeating themes with different people or it is a show about farming.
I guess I'd like to see more about the virus, a larger narrative about attempts to band together beyond small regional cells, and a bigger story arch. Otherwise there isn't a driving point (other than how these 10 people cope and quite frankly with few exceptions these people are poorly developed).
I like that approach.
 
First season was amazing. I'm not very impressed with the direction (flee, safety, danger, bad people - rinse and repeat).
well short of adding aliens from outer space or the group becoming wizards or fire breathing dragons erupting through the surface of the earth im not sure what else they can do but fight ...run...repeat...its the characters that need to be the engine here...and great special effects
Yeah, it is either a show of repeating themes with different people or it is a show about farming.
I guess I'd like to see more about the virus, a larger narrative about attempts to band together beyond small regional cells, and a bigger story arch. Otherwise there isn't a driving point (other than how these 10 people cope and quite frankly with few exceptions these people are poorly developed).
As has been discussed many times, that's a different show. This show is about this small group of people trying to survive. :shrug:

A bigger story is bigger than these characters.
:goodposting:

Just accept you're watching a soap opera with zombies.

 
FYI- new episode of Talking Dead on AMC tonight, preview of next season I believe. Also, some behind the scenes specials are on the next two Tuesdays on AMC.

 
BTW, since there was a long discussion here about the house Beth and Daryll stayed at with the makeup zombies, Scott Gimple cleared any confusion up about the house playing a bigger part along with Terminus, etc. I'll put it in spoilers just in case someone doesn't want to know:

It is not (unless he's lying) part of a bigger plot point involving Terminus or the crew Daryll hooked up with or anything else. It was not a honey-pot, or a way to lure unsuspecting guests to the house. It was simply the home of an undertaker who was continuing his pre-apocalyptic job of making up the dead and then burying them, zombie or not. He went on to say there was a bigger back-story in the script for the episode, and why the house was empty (undertaker died because he couldn't get to his pills or nytroglycerin in time) but they had to cut it to focus on the main story.
Anyways, thought that was mildly interesting from the Talking Dead show last night.

 
Sorry, that sounds like bull#### to throw off the speculation. Beth was abducted by someone in a hearse, and the dog seemed like an obvious set-up.

If they really didn't want people tying those things together they did a ####ty job telling the story they wanted to tell.

 
ConnSKINS26 said:
Sorry, that sounds like bull#### to throw off the speculation. Beth was abducted by someone in a hearse, and the dog seemed like an obvious set-up.

If they really didn't want people tying those things together they did a ####ty job telling the story they wanted to tell.
Or maybe you did a ####ty job watching tv? That wasn't a hearse. And it's a friggin dog.

"Hey Lassie, get these zombies to follow you to the front door, bark twice, then escape. Good boy!"

 
A few items of interest for me:

Looks like the cannibal rumors about Terminus are true. Sure looks like the group is about to be served up for dinner at the start.

So apparently somehow the group teams up with Gareth to get to Washington. Is Terminus overrun by walkers and that's how the group gets spared?

The explosions and fire in some of the scenes look like they're happening at Terminus.

No surprise but Carol and Tyresse get back with the group.

There sure to be tons of foreshadowing that Rick and Gareth are going to have a showdown at some point.

Beth looks like she may be in a real prison? Another new group to contend with?
Holy s**t next season looks amazing.

 
A few items of interest for me:

Looks like the cannibal rumors about Terminus are true. Sure looks like the group is about to be served up for dinner at the start.

So apparently somehow the group teams up with Gareth to get to Washington. Is Terminus overrun by walkers and that's how the group gets spared?

The explosions and fire in some of the scenes look like they're happening at Terminus.

No surprise but Carol and Tyresse get back with the group.

There sure to be tons of foreshadowing that Rick and Gareth are going to have a showdown at some point.

Beth looks like she may be in a real prison? Another new group to contend with?
Holy s**t next season looks amazing.
Agreed, looks awesome.

 
I think Rick may have went off the handle when he grabbed that dude with the watch knowing that Daryl only had a crossbow (still daryl, really?), Michonne with her sword and lil carl with a pistol. Not exactly good fighting odds.

Also did they take the redneck group weapons and bury them. I was only halfway watching or did they bury something else?

Oh and the Sandusky rape scene was just a little over the top IMO. We get it the dudes are bad no need to imply they are going to rape a kid.
You don't think he went off the handle when he ripped a guys throat out with his teeth?!
I realize this is an old post but it was a graphic reminder of who the walking dead really are. You couldn't tell Rick from a walker in that scene.

 

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