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First they came for the ....I didn't have time to read the entire article, but going off your summary, I don't see the problem unless you're dealing with drugs.
So if police do not like you they can go fishing for any type of crime you might have committed and you are OK with that?I didn't have time to read the entire article, but going off your summary, I don't see the problem unless you're dealing with drugs.
I thought this was an interesting take, given some of the other Police vs. Citizens conversations going on.
This is always the case but I will add that some government officials always seem to silently ask what is the point of power if it is unexercised. Apparently some at the FEC want to regulate political web content.
If only government were considered service instead of power. :rainbowsandunicorns:
https://w2.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/Terrorism/20011031_eff_usa_patriot_analysis.php
Just ask yourself how the people you voted for back then voted on the PA.....
Drug dealers?First they came for the ....I didn't have time to read the entire article, but going off your summary, I don't see the problem unless you're dealing with drugs.
So all government has to do to take away your rights is to declare you a criminal.
Brilliant simplicity!
The people I vote for usually don't get elected. I think I voted for Landrieu and I'm guessing she was a yes. I voted against Jefferson and Vitter and I think they were in office then. I wouldn't be surprised if even Jefferson voted for the PA but I don't know. It was pretty much a chorus back then.
Yep ....guilty until proven innocent...SacramentoBob said:
Then you should probably find a country that suits your ideals more closely, like somewhere in the middle east.Ditka Butkus said:
As a nation we are unrivaled in our naiveté and inability to learn. It's part of what makes us so exceptional.
Good point. As Winston Churchill once said " You can count on Americans to do the right thing - after they have tried everything else."
Im not taking a side since I didnt read the article, but am I in the minority in that the police dont know me?So if police do not like you they can go fishing for any type of crime you might have committed and you are OK with that?I didn't have time to read the entire article, but going off your summary, I don't see the problem unless you're dealing with drugs.
What people don't seem to get is when Jon MX, for example, has his rights trampled your protections get weaker. And if we let it go far enough none of us will have any real rights. It will all be smoke and mirrors. Getting there.Im not taking a side since I didnt read the article, but am I in the minority in that the police dont know me?So if police do not like you they can go fishing for any type of crime you might have committed and you are OK with that?I didn't have time to read the entire article, but going off your summary, I don't see the problem unless you're dealing with drugs.
Yes.Im not taking a side since I didnt read the article, but am I in the minority in believing that the police dont know me?So if police do not like you they can go fishing for any type of crime you might have committed and you are OK with that?I didn't have time to read the entire article, but going off your summary, I don't see the problem unless you're dealing with drugs.
I agree with that in priciple. I just dont know anyone worth a damn in society that the police know well enough to not like.What people don't seem to get is when Jon MX, for example, has his rights trampled your protections get weaker. And if we let it go far enough none of us will have any real rights. It will all be smoke and mirrors. Getting there.Im not taking a side since I didnt read the article, but am I in the minority in that the police dont know me?So if police do not like you they can go fishing for any type of crime you might have committed and you are OK with that?I didn't have time to read the entire article, but going off your summary, I don't see the problem unless you're dealing with drugs.
The NSA knows everyone.I agree with that in priciple. I just dont know anyone worth a damn in society that the police know well enough to not like.What people don't seem to get is when Jon MX, for example, has his rights trampled your protections get weaker. And if we let it go far enough none of us will have any real rights. It will all be smoke and mirrors. Getting there.Im not taking a side since I didnt read the article, but am I in the minority in that the police dont know me?So if police do not like you they can go fishing for any type of crime you might have committed and you are OK with that?I didn't have time to read the entire article, but going off your summary, I don't see the problem unless you're dealing with drugs.
