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Bortles - Should they hold him out for the year? (1 Viewer)

Should the Jags put Bortles on the bench for year?

  • Yes?

    Votes: 32 32.7%
  • No?

    Votes: 66 67.3%

  • Total voters
    98

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Bortles looks great in his limited time but you hear that ideally that the team would like to have him on the sidelines for year so he doesn't get thrown to the fire like Gabbert was. I'm not sure what one situation has to do with the other but what do you think....should they hold him out even if he looks better than Henne or should they throw him in the fire?

 
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I voted yes as long as gene is winning games and the jags are in contention. The moment that stops bortles should go in.

 
A few games at the end of the season might be a nice experience for him so he's not going through that for the first time next year. Beyond that, I think he should sit regardless of how Henne plays.

 
In this situation what would the down side of getting him a couple of back to back series in a games through out the year. Why is QB the only position that can't rotate? I don't want every other pass play to be Henne then Bortles, but why not a couple of series. Henne isn't brees or brady but he isn't blaine gabbert either. Some limited real gametime would help with watching.

 
Should he sit the entire year? Yes. Will he? I don't know, depends on the season they are having.

I know everyone is falling in love with the new toy but it's important to note that Henne has looked equally impressive and he's been doing it with the 1st team. We've yet to see Bortles against real live bullets; exotic coverage/blitz and pocket pressure. A lot of guys can look good this time of year to only fold in the regular season.

Henne looks perfectly capable of running this offense well and giving Bortles adequate time to learn from the sideline. If the season becomes a disaster early on I'd expect Bortles to come in. If Jax is playing well and in contention with Henne I expect Henne to continue to play.

 
In this situation what would the down side of getting him a couple of back to back series in a games through out the year. Why is QB the only position that can't rotate? I don't want every other pass play to be Henne then Bortles, but why not a couple of series. Henne isn't brees or brady but he isn't blaine gabbert either. Some limited real gametime would help with watching.
QB is like a starting pitcher in Baseball. You can't just pull them in and out and expect them to have any rhythm.

 
what does benching for a season do?

i have to think the sooner a qb plays in real games the better. seems any argument that players get shell shocked or thrown to the fire too early and never recover is just a cheap way to explain a player not living up to his hype.

 
I think a guy should sit if he's not ready. I don't think it makes sense to make an arbitrary decision before the season to do a certain thing regardless of the evidence. Is there any statistic evidence that putting a guy on a shelf improves their long term chances of success? I haven't heard of anything...and for every David Carr that was thrown to the fire and failed you can throw a Luck / Manning that has succeeded.

 
Why is everyone making this about Bortles? The reason a rookie sits is more often than not because another guy, in the estimation of the team, gives them a better chance to win. Not because they are playing some magical game of what is better or worse for that player. It's about winning football ball games.

If the time comes where it's clear they are out of it, then it makes sense to play the rookie regardless. At that point he can't really "hurt" you and may in fact prove to be a change for the positive.

 
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The Bengals sat Palmer for a year. He looked good once he took over.

The Bengals started Dalton right away. He looked good once he took over.

I think it depends on the make-up of the player. And I think Bortles has the make-up to succeed out of the gate.

-QG

 
Each situation is unique and takes into account several factors. In this case, my guess he's starting around mid season.

 
If I was in charge of a franchise, I would never start a rookie QB. Let them sit, learn the playbook, and prepare for year two. Nothing bad can come from sitting, I imagine a few careers have been ruined by starting too soon.

Obviously there aren't many QBs who excelled as rookies, but not worth the risk in my opinion.

 
No. Sitting him seems like a terrible idea to me.

A QB on a rookie salary is gold and sitting him just wastes a year of that. The stop-gap QB you put ahead of a rookie is also just wasting a year.

Sitting a rookie QB stunts his development as he doesn't get the reps in both practice and games as the starter does, and he doesn't get the amount of coaching focus that he could as a starter.

 
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No. Sitting him seems like a terrible idea to me.

A QB on a rookie salary is gold and sitting him just wastes a year of that. The stop-gap QB you put ahead of a rookie is also just wasting a year.

Sitting a rookie QB stunts his development as he doesn't get the reps in both practice and games as the starter does, and he doesn't get the amount of coaching focus that he could as a starter.
Worked ok for Aaron Rodgers.

 
No. Sitting him seems like a terrible idea to me.

A QB on a rookie salary is gold and sitting him just wastes a year of that. The stop-gap QB you put ahead of a rookie is also just wasting a year.

Sitting a rookie QB stunts his development as he doesn't get the reps in both practice and games as the starter does, and he doesn't get the amount of coaching focus that he could as a starter.
Worked ok for Aaron Rodgers.
Henne is a future hall of famer After all.

 
Only reason I see sitting him for a year is if your O-Line is so bad they can't protect him. You get David Carr syndrome and start the habit of giving up on plays, ducking and throwing at the same time, and wishing the next play is a hand-off.

 
Get a good look at Jaguars rookie quarterback Blake Bortles during Thursday night’s preseason finale against Atlanta at EverBank Field. If Jaguars general manager Dave Caldwell and coach Gus Bradley fully execute their plan, it will be the last time Bortles plays in a game until 2015.

The Jaguars aren’t expecting the draft’s third-overall pick to contribute in 2014 with veteran Chad Henne locked in as the starter.
http://members.jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2014-08-26/story/future-may-be-next-year-jaguars-rookie-qb-blake-bortles-if

Can't wait to see how long that plan lasts. Looking at the schedule, there's an excellent chance they are starting out 0-6.

That stadium will be a ghost town.

 
No. Sitting him seems like a terrible idea to me.

A QB on a rookie salary is gold and sitting him just wastes a year of that. The stop-gap QB you put ahead of a rookie is also just wasting a year.

Sitting a rookie QB stunts his development as he doesn't get the reps in both practice and games as the starter does, and he doesn't get the amount of coaching focus that he could as a starter.
Worked ok for Aaron Rodgers.
Henne is a future hall of famer After all.
Favre famously didn't mentor Rodgers. My point was that a rookie QB sitting for a year doesn't necessarily mean it stunts his development. There are plenty of examples of rookie QBs being put in too soon and having it stunt their development.

 
No. Sitting him seems like a terrible idea to me.

A QB on a rookie salary is gold and sitting him just wastes a year of that. The stop-gap QB you put ahead of a rookie is also just wasting a year.

Sitting a rookie QB stunts his development as he doesn't get the reps in both practice and games as the starter does, and he doesn't get the amount of coaching focus that he could as a starter.
Worked ok for Aaron Rodgers.
Henne is a future hall of famer After all.
Favre famously didn't mentor Rodgers. My point was that a rookie QB sitting for a year doesn't necessarily mean it stunts his development. There are plenty of examples of rookie QBs being put in too soon and having it stunt their development.
I'm aware of that. It was just odd you went to the guy who had no choice but to sit for 3 years before getting a shot.

 
It is obvious the kid looks the part. He is flashing the goods and it's only a matter of time before the Jags put him into the game, even a little injury to Chad Henne who is probably the worst starting QB in the league will put him out there sooner rather than later. I would be excited right now if I were a Jags fan. Things are going to get better and my opinion on this guy is changing by the minute. I don't want to let an early opinion that was unfounded cloud what I am seeing on the field. I think he has a good chance to be a solid QB, perhaps not elite but right now he is still developing. I think he looks even better than what I saw in college and he might get better down the road as he starts this process.

Put it another way, I'm rooting for this kid now. Get it done, get this once proud franchise up out of the dirt and moving forward. The BB Bombers are coming.

 
But to address the topic or title, the Jags should let Bortles watch for at least a handful of games, maybe let him play 1-2 drives to start the maturation process here and then hopefully by the middle of the season you can hand the reigns over and ease him in slowly but still allow him to develop this season for 2015.

 
It is obvious the kid looks the part. He is flashing the goods and it's only a matter of time before the Jags put him into the game, even a little injury to Chad Henne who is probably the worst starting QB in the league will put him out there sooner rather than later. I would be excited right now if I were a Jags fan. Things are going to get better and my opinion on this guy is changing by the minute. I don't want to let an early opinion that was unfounded cloud what I am seeing on the field. I think he has a good chance to be a solid QB, perhaps not elite but right now he is still developing. I think he looks even better than what I saw in college and he might get better down the road as he starts this process.

Put it another way, I'm rooting for this kid now. Get it done, get this once proud franchise up out of the dirt and moving forward. The BB Bombers are coming.
We're very excited. We really haven't had good QB play during this current century.
 
No. Sitting him seems like a terrible idea to me.

A QB on a rookie salary is gold and sitting him just wastes a year of that. The stop-gap QB you put ahead of a rookie is also just wasting a year.

Sitting a rookie QB stunts his development as he doesn't get the reps in both practice and games as the starter does, and he doesn't get the amount of coaching focus that he could as a starter.
Worked ok for Aaron Rodgers.
Henne is a future hall of famer After all.
Favre famously didn't mentor Rodgers. My point was that a rookie QB sitting for a year doesn't necessarily mean it stunts his development. There are plenty of examples of rookie QBs being put in too soon and having it stunt their development.
I'm aware of that. It was just odd you went to the guy who had no choice but to sit for 3 years before getting a shot.
It's not only that. It was well known that Rodgers had some mechanics issues coming out of college, which is why he fell hard in the draft. There's nothing wrong with a rookie QB sitting for a year and learning the game.

 
No. Sitting him seems like a terrible idea to me.

A QB on a rookie salary is gold and sitting him just wastes a year of that. The stop-gap QB you put ahead of a rookie is also just wasting a year.

Sitting a rookie QB stunts his development as he doesn't get the reps in both practice and games as the starter does, and he doesn't get the amount of coaching focus that he could as a starter.
Worked ok for Aaron Rodgers.
Henne is a future hall of famer After all.
Favre famously didn't mentor Rodgers. My point was that a rookie QB sitting for a year doesn't necessarily mean it stunts his development. There are plenty of examples of rookie QBs being put in too soon and having it stunt their development.
I'm aware of that. It was just odd you went to the guy who had no choice but to sit for 3 years before getting a shot.
It's not only that. It was well known that Rodgers had some mechanics issues coming out of college, which is why he fell hard in the draft. There's nothing wrong with a rookie QB sitting for a year and learning the game.
He fell hard because of the situation. No one really needed a QB that badly. He had just as much chance of going #1 overall to SF as Alex smith did. It's a bit revisionist to say the reason he fell was because he wasn't good enough for those teams. They either had QBs or other needs more dire.

 
If you're the Jags, why risk ####### up your awesome looking prospect? I know you lose a year of his cheap rookie contract, but there's definitely an argument to be made for making him sit. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it's there.

 
If you're the Jags, why risk ####### up your awesome looking prospect? I know you lose a year of his cheap rookie contract, but there's definitely an argument to be made for making him sit. I don't necessarily agree with it, but it's there.
I feel like that is about the most winnable division in football. One team has a good offense and bad defense. One team has a potentially bad offense and good defense. The last team has a new coach and might be somewhere in between. Don't get me wrong. I do not think jax is good but heck, winning 8 or 9 games might get me in, I am freaking going for it.

 
And what ever happened to the concept of playing your best players? I don't care if they are 21 or 41.
True. It sends the wrong message to the locker room, sticking with the predetermined plan to sit Bortles for a mediocre vet when he's earned a chance to start.

 
Get a good look at Jaguars rookie quarterback Blake Bortles during Thursday night’s preseason finale against Atlanta at EverBank Field. If Jaguars general manager Dave Caldwell and coach Gus Bradley fully execute their plan, it will be the last time Bortles plays in a game until 2015.

The Jaguars aren’t expecting the draft’s third-overall pick to contribute in 2014 with veteran Chad Henne locked in as the starter.
http://members.jacksonville.com/sports/football/jaguars/2014-08-26/story/future-may-be-next-year-jaguars-rookie-qb-blake-bortles-if

Can't wait to see how long that plan lasts. Looking at the schedule, there's an excellent chance they are starting out 0-6.

That stadium will be a ghost town.
Step right up if "less than three weeks" was your answer!

 

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