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I'd probably take him #3 overall if it were certain that Holmes were not going to play at all this year.Otherwise, it would depend on the injury and Holmes' chances of returning.
Watched him in college and was only solid for a brief short period of time last year vs. a RB who year in and year out is a top 5 RB I guess. When faced with choosing a RB who will give you top RB production vs. a RB who hasn't done it enough to warrent a first round pick, I'll take the legit stud.That's a pretty strong statement. What do you not like about LJ's game, specifically?
I think you guys are the ones that are insane. How many RBs in the NFL starting or back-up can you name for me that IF they were the sole and featured runner behind the KC Oline in a Vermeil system would you NOT take in the top 3. LJ is not an unproven, he proved lat year he can be just as effective as Holmes in that role.
The Chiefs seem to be a much more stable team, and have a lot of other talent on offense. LJ is in his third year, and by then most RBs are conditioned to the long season. I can't recall any injury concerns with him, either.
People forget that until late last year, LJ was a bust and cancer. Now, he's the next Priest?
I have NO problem taking LT or SA or Edge or Peyton over LJ. Every dog has their day and LJ had his for a small period of time last year.
I never saw LJ as a bust, which is probably the difference in our perspectives.Again, I don't think the Barlow situation is comparable.People forget that until late last year, LJ was a bust and cancer. Now, he's the next Priest?
I have NO problem taking LT or SA or Edge or Peyton over LJ. Every dog has their day and LJ had his for a small period of time last year.
See Barlow as a prime example the last two years, that's what I would see with LJ if given the starting chance.
Ok, which part of these seasons impressed you so much more than LJ's:
The answer to your last question: You don't know. But you do know what you will generally get out of SA or Edge or LT-RUSHING-Year G-S Att Yds TD Lg Avg. 1997 11-1 94 402 4 31 4.31998 11-11 212 1082 7 37 5.11999 10-0 151 809 12 84 5.42000 11-8 159 767 14 72 4.8Total 43-20 616 3060 37 84 5.0-RECEIVING-Year G-S Rec Yds TD Lg Avg. 1997 11-1 7 71 0 35 10.11998 11-11 18 154 0 20 8.61999 10-0 20 201 0 43 10.12000 11-8 18 190 2 47 10.6Total 43-20 63 616 2 47 9.8RUSHING STATISTICSYEAR GP GS NO YARDS AVG TD LONG GM/AVG1999 10 0 43 171 4.0 1 40 17.102000 12 1 75 358 4.8 3 58 29.832001 11 5 71 337 4.7 2 31 30.642002 13 12 271 2,087 7.7 20 84 160.54TOTAL 46 18 460 2,953 6.4 26 84 64.20RECEIVING STATISTICS KICKOFF RETURNSYEAR NO YARDS AVG TD LONG NO YARDS AVG TD LONG1999 4 74 18.5 1 60 13 230 17.7 0 402000 9 122 13.6 1 61 18 444 24.7 0 652001 11 136 12.4 2 50 17 454 26.7 1 972002 41 349 8.5 3 36 11 219 19.9 0 53TOTAL 65 681 10.5 7 61 59 1,347 22.8 1 97
Gotta love this, we are talking about a hypothetical, unless Holmes goes down for the ENTIRE YEAR, this is pointless.
There was very little basis to be calling LJ a bust last year and anyone who did flat out overreacted. I mean come on, those assumptions were being based off of what... 20 carries for the year.People forget that until late last year, LJ was a bust and cancer. Now, he's the next Priest?
I have NO problem taking LT or SA or Edge or Peyton over LJ. Every dog has their day and LJ had his for a small period of time last year.
See Barlow as a prime example the last two years, that's what I would see with LJ if given the starting chance.
Hopefully, for this thread's sake, Priest will be out and you can draft LJ and I have a choice and draft Edge and then we can compare their numbers during the season.I never saw LJ as a bust, which is probably the difference in our perspectives.Again, I don't think the Barlow situation is comparable.People forget that until late last year, LJ was a bust and cancer. Now, he's the next Priest?
I have NO problem taking LT or SA or Edge or Peyton over LJ. Every dog has their day and LJ had his for a small period of time last year.
See Barlow as a prime example the last two years, that's what I would see with LJ if given the starting chance.
Also, I would definitely take LT and SA before LJ as well. I don't draft QBs in round one, so really we only disagree over Edge, which is cool if you prefer him. I just thought the "go ahead and quit this hobby" line was a bit over the top.
I agree, this thread is 100% pointless and I wish I could get my life back from it. That said, lets wait to see if Priest will be out then cross that bridge when we get to it.There was very little basis to be calling LJ a bust last year and anyone who did flat out overreacted. I mean come on, those assumptions were being based off of what... 20 carries for the year.People forget that until late last year, LJ was a bust and cancer. Now, he's the next Priest?
I have NO problem taking LT or SA or Edge or Peyton over LJ. Every dog has their day and LJ had his for a small period of time last year.
See Barlow as a prime example the last two years, that's what I would see with LJ if given the starting chance.
Insane?Edge may be the more talented back, but in the Colts offense, he's kind of an afterthought. LJ plays in the most dominant rushing offense (scoring wise) in the NFL.
Then please stop saying how great LJ will be when it won't even happen this year.I'll come back to this thread if Priest gets traded and/or has season ending surgery before the draft and let me know where you drafted LJ.
Please put me in your league!
Are you really comparing San Francisco's running attack to Kansas City's?
Are you even following this thread? the discussion surrounds a HYPOTHETICAL situation in which Holmes is forced to sit out the entire year. If that actually occurs, and you want to draft Manning, Edge, McGahee, McAllister, etc. in front of Johnson, I would gladly have you in my league.Where would YOU take him if the aforementioned scenario were to play itself out? Is he even a first-round choice? Second? Third?Then please stop saying how great LJ will be when it won't even happen this year.
I'll come back to this thread if Priest gets traded and/or has season ending surgery before the draft and let me know where you drafted LJ.
LJ a top pick.
I think you maybe lost or something then... THAT IS WHAT THIS THREAD WAS STARTED FOR! It was a question based off of the hypothetical situation that LJ is the featured and only runner in KC. Maybe you should simply go back an reread the intital post.Then please stop saying how great LJ will be when it won't even happen this year.I'll come back to this thread if Priest gets traded and/or has season ending surgery before the draft and let me know where you drafted LJ.
LJ a top pick.
Beat me to it EvilContact me then if this happens. Would gladly join your league.Are you even following this thread? the discussion surrounds a HYPOTHETICAL situation in which Holmes is forced to sit out the entire year. If that actually occurs, and you want to draft Manning, Edge, McGahee, McAllister, etc. in front of Johnson, I would gladly have you in my league.Where would YOU take him if the aforementioned scenario were to play itself out? Is he even a first-round choice? Second? Third?Then please stop saying how great LJ will be when it won't even happen this year.
I'll come back to this thread if Priest gets traded and/or has season ending surgery before the draft and let me know where you drafted LJ.
LJ a top pick.
Funny, I was wondering if anyone on this site actually thought that Lossman could play WORSE than Bledsoe did last year. I know I sure don't, I don't care if he is a 1st year starter or not. Bledsoe was one of, if not the worst starting QBs in the NFL last year. Surprisingly, he probably went to the only team in the NFL for which he is an upgrade in Dal. Wash don't count because Brunell is no longer starting.
