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(KFFL) DenverBroncos.com reports Denver Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan recently spoke about RBs Ron Dayne's and Tatum Bell's roles in the offense. "I don't know that you necessarily have to have a No. 1 guy. We rushed for over 1,900 yards last year in a rotation, said Shanahan. "You rank second in the NFL in rushing; you've got two backs that stayed healthy throughout the year; you have the speed/breakaway guy (Bell) who seems to be at his best when he carries the ball one to 10 times, and then you've got the power guy on the inside, and Ron will fill that role this year in place of Mike Anderson."

KFFL misreported this article... Ted Sunquist was the one interviewed, not Mike Shanahan.

 
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(KFFL) DenverBroncos.com reports Denver Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan recently spoke about RBs Ron Dayne's and Tatum Bell's roles in the offense. "I don't know that you necessarily have to have a No. 1 guy. We rushed for over 1,900 yards last year in a rotation, said Shanahan. "You rank second in the NFL in rushing; you've got two backs that stayed healthy throughout the year; you have the speed/breakaway guy (Bell) who seems to be at his best when he carries the ball one to 10 times, and then you've got the power guy on the inside, and Ron will fill that role this year in place of Mike Anderson."

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Wow....Bell owners must be like. :shock:
 
(KFFL) DenverBroncos.com reports Denver Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan recently spoke about RBs Ron Dayne's and Tatum Bell's roles in the offense. "I don't know that you necessarily have to have a No. 1 guy. We rushed for over 1,900 yards last year in a rotation, said Shanahan. "You rank second in the NFL in rushing; you've got two backs that stayed healthy throughout the year; you have the speed/breakaway guy (Bell) who seems to be at his best when he carries the ball one to 10 times, and then you've got the power guy on the inside, and Ron will fill that role this year in place of Mike Anderson."

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The Denver Broncos have been in the top 10 in rushing yards every year since 2000; they've been in the top 12 every year since Shanahan arrived in 1995. If Ron Dayne gets 200 carries in Denver this year, they will finish outside the top 12.

 
I had Anderson last year as my #2 and he was more than acceptable especially since I got him in the 5th round. I am not sure Dayne is as good but worth a 6th round or higher pick.

 
(KFFL) DenverBroncos.com reports Denver Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan recently spoke about RBs Ron Dayne's and Tatum Bell's roles in the offense. "I don't know that you necessarily have to have a No. 1 guy. We rushed for over 1,900 yards last year in a rotation, said Shanahan. "You rank second in the NFL in rushing; you've got two backs that stayed healthy throughout the year; you have the speed/breakaway guy (Bell) who seems to be at his best when he carries the ball one to 10 times, and then you've got the power guy on the inside, and Ron will fill that role this year in place of Mike Anderson."

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Wow, talk about slapping Bell in the face. Throwing the 1 carry as part of the range of carries is pretty disrespectful.This is along the diaper line Vermeil threw at LJ. Either Shanahan thinks Bell is a chump or he's trying to light a fire under him.

 
:lmao: at people still believing in Dayne.

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You keep believing that. No one believed Shanahan last year when he said Anderson would be the starter. So, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice......well, you know how it goes.
 
People were thinking Shanny was trying to light a fire under Bell last year.

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It's one of 2 things.1)He has no respect for Bell and doesn't plan on using him much at all despite rushing for 5+ yards a carry. The one to ten line was a direct bash at Bell.

2)He's trying some kind of mind games to motivate Bell.

Your guess is as good as mine, I have no clue what to read into it.

 
People were thinking Shanny was trying to light a fire under Bell last year.

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It's one of 2 things.1)He has no respect for Bell and doesn't plan on using him much at all despite rushing for 5+ yards a carry. The one to ten line was a direct bash at Bell.

2)He's trying some kind of mind games to motivate Bell.

Your guess is as good as mine, I have no clue what to read into it.

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I believe Dayne averaged 5+ ypc also.
 
People were thinking Shanny was trying to light a fire under Bell last year.

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It's one of 2 things.1)He has no respect for Bell and doesn't plan on using him much at all despite rushing for 5+ yards a carry. The one to ten line was a direct bash at Bell.

2)He's trying some kind of mind games to motivate Bell.

Your guess is as good as mine, I have no clue what to read into it.

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you forgot option 3...that he really believes Bell is a 1 -10 touch a game RB. :confused:

Whats so hard to believe about that?

 
People were thinking Shanny was trying to light a fire under Bell last year.

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It's one of 2 things.1)He has no respect for Bell and doesn't plan on using him much at all despite rushing for 5+ yards a carry. The one to ten line was a direct bash at Bell.

2)He's trying some kind of mind games to motivate Bell.

Your guess is as good as mine, I have no clue what to read into it.

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I believe Dayne averaged 5+ ypc also.
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5.09 on 53 carries.I figure he'll be closer to 4.5 range if he touches the rock more. If Reuben Droughns can average 4.5, so can Dayne.

 
People were thinking Shanny was trying to light a fire under Bell last year.

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It's one of 2 things.1)He has no respect for Bell and doesn't plan on using him much at all despite rushing for 5+ yards a carry. The one to ten line was a direct bash at Bell.

2)He's trying some kind of mind games to motivate Bell.

Your guess is as good as mine, I have no clue what to read into it.

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you forgot option 3...that he really believes Bell is a 1 -10 touch a game RB. :confused:

Whats so hard to believe about that?

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Nothing, but throwing the 1 carry part as the low end was embarrasing and a direct shot at Bell.Bell was a 8-13 carry back last year and did well in that roll, why insult him throwing the 1 carry part as the low end and 10 carries as the high end, he did more than that this previous season. He could have easily said we'll use him like last year, but went out of his way to throw in the backhanded insult.

 
People were thinking Shanny was trying to light a fire under Bell last year.

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It's one of 2 things.1)He has no respect for Bell and doesn't plan on using him much at all despite rushing for 5+ yards a carry. The one to ten line was a direct bash at Bell.

2)He's trying some kind of mind games to motivate Bell.

Your guess is as good as mine, I have no clue what to read into it.

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I believe Dayne averaged 5+ ypc also.
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You would be correct.It's funny to watch people belittle Dayne in a situation where Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson, and Rueben Droughns have had some very good success, and Dayne is a better RB than any of them.

Hey, that's okay. Pick up Bell in the 3rd & leave Dayne for me in the 9th in redrafts - just like what happened last year with Bell & Anderson. I appreciate getting a starting RB for DEN so late in the draft.

The Giants fans just can't seem to forgive Dayne for being misused in New York.

 
People were thinking Shanny was trying to light a fire under Bell last year.

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It's one of 2 things.1)He has no respect for Bell and doesn't plan on using him much at all despite rushing for 5+ yards a carry. The one to ten line was a direct bash at Bell.

2)He's trying some kind of mind games to motivate Bell.

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you forgot option 3...that he really believes Bell is a 1 -10 touch a game RB. :confused:

Whats so hard to believe about that?

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Nothing, but throwing the 1 carry part as the low end was embarrasing and a direct shot at Bell.Bell was a 8-13 carry back last year and did well in that roll, why insult him throwing the 1 carry part as the low end and 10 carries as the high end, he did more than that this previous season. He could have easily said we'll use him like last year, but went out of his way to throw in the backhanded insult.

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You're reading wayyyy too much into that 1 to 10 thing, IMO.
 
People say funny things when they are interviewed. They don't have time to be politically correct ALL the time. I think all he meant was that he was sticking with what worked last year, and it came out as 1 - 10. :confused: :D

 
:lmao: at people still believing in Dayne.

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You keep believing that. No one believed Shanahan last year when he said Anderson would be the starter. So, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice......well, you know how it goes.
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dayne <> andersonunfortunately the board threads have been pruned or else i would show year after year how people said dayne would finally break out.

fool you once? people have been fooled by dayne 5 years in a row now. it is laughable.

this is who you think should be taken in the mid rounds?

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You would be correct.

It's funny to watch people belittle Dayne in a situation where Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson, and Rueben Droughns have had some very good success, and Dayne is a better RB than any of them.
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:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: look at their nfl stats and i think you will realize what a terrible statement that is.

Hey, that's okay.  Pick up Bell in the 3rd & leave Dayne for me in the 9th in redrafts - just like what happened last year with Bell & Anderson.  I appreciate getting a starting RB for DEN so late in the draft.

The Giants fans just can't seem to forgive Dayne for being misused in New York.

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:lmao: at misused.
 
People were thinking Shanny was trying to light a fire under Bell last year.

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It's one of 2 things.1)He has no respect for Bell and doesn't plan on using him much at all despite rushing for 5+ yards a carry. The one to ten line was a direct bash at Bell.

2)He's trying some kind of mind games to motivate Bell.

Your guess is as good as mine, I have no clue what to read into it.

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you forgot option 3...that he really believes Bell is a 1 -10 touch a game RB. :confused:

Whats so hard to believe about that?

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Nothing, but throwing the 1 carry part as the low end was embarrasing and a direct shot at Bell.Bell was a 8-13 carry back last year and did well in that roll, why insult him throwing the 1 carry part as the low end and 10 carries as the high end, he did more than that this previous season. He could have easily said we'll use him like last year, but went out of his way to throw in the backhanded insult.

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You're reading wayyyy too much into that 1 to 10 thing, IMO.
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Possibly, but Shanahan knows what he's doing and what he's saying. He's extremely calculated in what he does. No one had a clue Denver wanted Cutler, they kept that the best kept secret of the draft. The problem is that no one else knows how to read into Shanahan with any accuracy.I have no doubt he purposely threw in that line for a reason, but i'm not gonna guess why. That is a classic subtle insult, you don't think he knows Bell is going to notice that?

 
People were thinking Shanny was trying to light a fire under Bell last year.

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It's one of 2 things.1)He has no respect for Bell and doesn't plan on using him much at all despite rushing for 5+ yards a carry. The one to ten line was a direct bash at Bell.

2)He's trying some kind of mind games to motivate Bell.

Your guess is as good as mine, I have no clue what to read into it.

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Would it be so freaking unrealistic to actually take the coach's words at face value? The draft is over, there's no need to be deceptive now.
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Taking Shanahan's word at face value. :lmao: Every year he is evasive with the press, not just around draft time, i don't know why, but he is.

 
:lmao: at people still believing in Dayne.

this is a recurring joke that never gets old.

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You keep believing that. No one believed Shanahan last year when he said Anderson would be the starter. So, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice......well, you know how it goes.
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dayne <> andersonunfortunately the board threads have been pruned or else i would show year after year how people said dayne would finally break out.

fool you once? people have been fooled by dayne 5 years in a row now. it is laughable.

this is who you think should be taken in the mid rounds?

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2004 - 2005 speaks volumes here. Same amount of carries, but in a better situation. His running style is a good fit in the zone blocking scheme.
 
People were thinking Shanny was trying to light a fire under Bell last year.

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It's one of 2 things.1)He has no respect for Bell and doesn't plan on using him much at all despite rushing for 5+ yards a carry. The one to ten line was a direct bash at Bell.

2)He's trying some kind of mind games to motivate Bell.

Your guess is as good as mine, I have no clue what to read into it.

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Would it be so freaking unrealistic to actually take the coach's words at face value? The draft is over, there's no need to be deceptive now.
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Taking Shanahan's word at face value. :lmao: Every year he is evasive with the press, not just around draft time, i don't know why, but he is.

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Didn't he say last year that Mike Anderson was going to be their starting RB? Why is it so hard to believe that Dayne is taking over Andersons role? :popcorn:

 
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People were thinking Shanny was trying to light a fire under Bell last year.

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It's one of 2 things.1)He has no respect for Bell and doesn't plan on using him much at all despite rushing for 5+ yards a carry. The one to ten line was a direct bash at Bell.

2)He's trying some kind of mind games to motivate Bell.

Your guess is as good as mine, I have no clue what to read into it.

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Would it be so freaking unrealistic to actually take the coach's words at face value? The draft is over, there's no need to be deceptive now.
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Taking Shanahan's word at face value. :lmao: Every year he is evasive with the press, not just around draft time, i don't know why, but he is.

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Didn't he say last year that Mike Anderson was going to be their starting RB? Why is it so hard to believe that Dayne is taking over Andersons role? :popcorn:

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If everything he said was BS then he wouldn't be so hard to read into, so picking an instance where he was straight forward really doesn't mean anything.Also I don't find it impossible to believe he likes Dayne, i'm just surprised he took such a shot at Bell.

 
Can you tell me the last time he's BS'd anyone? Besides when he's talking about injuries, because that isn't relevant here.

 
:lmao: at people still believing in Dayne.

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You keep believing that. No one believed Shanahan last year when he said Anderson would be the starter. So, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice......well, you know how it goes.
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dayne <> andersonunfortunately the board threads have been pruned or else i would show year after year how people said dayne would finally break out.

fool you once? people have been fooled by dayne 5 years in a row now. it is laughable.

this is who you think should be taken in the mid rounds?

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LOL @ comparing the Giants' rushing game with Denvers'. That's your first mistake. Your second is an irrational hate of Dayne that shows up every time his name is mentioned.Look, I watched Bell 2 years ago as he finally got some carries in the last few games of the season. He looked very good. I jumped on the Bell bandwagon in the offseason before last year and thought he was primed for a great ride. I posted Bell's averages compared to all the other DEN RBs and how he matched up favorably. Shanahan stated (not directly, of course) that Bell was going to be the guy.

Then I saw Bell in training camp and started disbelieving. He didn't hit the inside holes as hard, and he was losing yardage or gaining negligibly on inside runs more than he was gaining significantly. He became less effective unless the played called for a run on the edge or beyond. Then in the preseason he became completely inconsistent, and that's when I jumped on the Anderson bandwagon. Whatever Bell had at the end of his rookie year he had clearly lost. Shanahan won't tolerate using a guy who gives a 10 yd run followed by 3 or 4 very short to no-gain runs in his offense. He doesn't have a QB who can consistently get DEN out of 3rd & longs. Shanahan's O depends on a RB who will at least gain 2-3 yds even on a busted play, and keeps the chains moving by avoiding 3rd downs or staying in 3rd & short. Shanahan switched from Bell to Anderson & didn't think twice about it.

Dayne showed last season that he could do that in the DEN O - which is why Anderson was sent packing & DEN didn't select a RB in the draft. He shut up, ran hard, played special teams, and bided his time. He didn't ##### when he was deactivated, and showed up ready to play hard every week. And when DEN needed a RB the most in critical 4th quarter situations - against SD in week 2 and against DAL on Thanksgiving, Dayne came up huge & gave DEN 2 Ws they probably would not have gotten otherwise. Dayne earned his starting spot.

Now, Shanahan isn't giving Dayne the spot just because he wants to thank Dayne for his sacrifice, his effort, and his clutch play. He has given Dayne the starting spot because he sees a RB who can be a chain mover, give him an occassional big play, and pound the ball a ton. That's DEN football.

And I'll dare say that Shanahan knows a heck of a lot more about which RB fits his O than you do.

Whether you can live with that is your problem. Just keep posting your derisive crap, & let's see how Dayne performs, shall we? If Shanny says Dayne is his featured guy and you say Dayne isn't, please excuse me for siding with Shanahan. I think he's got a little better handle on NFL RBs that fit his system than you do - no offense.

 
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Broncos GM Ted Sundquist indicated the Broncos plan to use Tatum Bell in a similar rotation role as last year.

"You have the speed/breakaway guy (Bell) who seems to be at his best when he carries the ball one to 10 times, and then you've got the power guy on the inside," Sundquist said. It worked well for Denver last season, who finished second in the league in rushing. It also led to highly inconsistent production for Bell's fantasy owners. Its interesting to note Denver targeted Laurence Maroney with their first-round pick before trading up for Jay Cutler instead. May. 5 - 4:39 pm et

Source: DenverBroncos.com

Denver GM Ted Sundquist admits the team plans to use Ron Dayne in the same role Mike Anderson had last year.

Anderson finished with 56 more carries than Tatum Bell last season. Look for Dayne and Bell to have a similar split in 2006, with Dayne getting the goal-line work. If Dayne comes close to matching Anderson's production, he's a top 20 fantasy back. Ron Dayne! May. 5 - 4:42 pm et

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You would be correct.

It's funny to watch people belittle Dayne in a situation where Olandis Gary, Mike Anderson, and Rueben Droughns have had some very good success, and Dayne is a better RB than any of them.
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:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: look at their nfl stats and i think you will realize what a terrible statement that is.
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Really? Then since you love stats so much, why don't you compare Droughns' stats with his first team (DET) to Dayne's stats with his first team (the Giants)? Or how about you compare Gary's stats after he left DEN to Dayne's stats outside of DEN?Then come on back & :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

 
I am amazed that people are going to once again draft Dayne as though he is better than a pile of ####.

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A pile of #### that is starting in Denver.I agree with the guy who posted earlier that Dayne had the same amount of carries in 2004 and 2006.....

With the Giants: 52 carries for a 3.1 ypc avg.

With the Broncos: 53 carries for a 5.1 ypc avg.

Even if you take out the 55 yard romp he had in Dallas last year, thats 52 carries for a 4.1 ypc avg.

Don't count the fat piece of ##### out until you see him get 20 carries a game in that scheme.

Certainly this is Dayne's last gasp at a startgin RB gig in the NFL (if he falters). Even if eh does succeed, I wouldn't hesistate to say he'd suck again if he was outside of Denver. But hell, give the fatass a chance in this system. He showed potential last year, and all indications are that Shannahan has not suddenly fallen in love with Bell. Seems Tatum'll be in the same situation he was in last year.

 
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I am amazed that people are going to once again draft Dayne as though he is better than a pile of ####.

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A pile of #### that is starting in Denver.I agree with the guy who posted earlier that Dayne had the same amount of carries in 2004 and 2006.....

With the Giants: 52 carries for a 3.1 ypc avg.

With the Broncos: 53 carries for a 5.1 ypc avg.

Even if you take out the 55 yard romp he had in Dallas last year, thats 52 carries for a 4.1 ypc avg.

Don't count the fat piece of ##### out until you see him get 20 carries a game in that scheme.

Certainly this is Dayne's last gasp at a startgin RB gig in the NFL (if he falters). Even if eh does succeed, I wouldn't hesistate to say he'd suck again if he was outside of Denver. But hell, give the fatass a chance in this system. He showed potential last year, and all indications are that Shannahan has not suddenly fallen in love with Bell. Seems Tatum'll be in the same situation he was in last year.

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don't get me wrong, I won't be taking Tatum either. Somebody please send Denver a rb. :missing:

 
I am amazed that people are going to once again draft Dayne as though he is better than a pile of ####.

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You're drafting the #1 back in the DEN O. That's worth at least a 2nd round pick regardless of who the player is. And the gravy thing about it is you can draft Dayne in the 5th round or later.But keep that negative vibe going, it's going to help the sharks out tremendously. :thumbup:

 
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(KFFL) DenverBroncos.com reports Denver Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan recently spoke about RBs Ron Dayne's and Tatum Bell's roles in the offense. "I don't know that you necessarily have to have a No. 1 guy. We rushed for over 1,900 yards last year in a rotation, said Shanahan. "You rank second in the NFL in rushing; you've got two backs that stayed healthy throughout the year; you have the speed/breakaway guy (Bell) who seems to be at his best when he carries the ball one to 10 times, and then you've got the power guy on the inside, and Ron will fill that role this year in place of Mike Anderson."

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The Denver Broncos have been in the top 10 in rushing yards every year since 2000; they've been in the top 12 every year since Shanahan arrived in 1995. If Ron Dayne gets 200 carries in Denver this year, they will finish outside the top 12.

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Would you like to put some money on that?
 
People were thinking Shanny was trying to light a fire under Bell last year.

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It's one of 2 things.1)He has no respect for Bell and doesn't plan on using him much at all despite rushing for 5+ yards a carry. The one to ten line was a direct bash at Bell.

2)He's trying some kind of mind games to motivate Bell.

Your guess is as good as mine, I have no clue what to read into it.

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you forgot option 3...that he really believes Bell is a 1 -10 touch a game RB. :confused:

Whats so hard to believe about that?

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Nothing, but throwing the 1 carry part as the low end was embarrasing and a direct shot at Bell.Bell was a 8-13 carry back last year and did well in that roll, why insult him throwing the 1 carry part as the low end and 10 carries as the high end, he did more than that this previous season. He could have easily said we'll use him like last year, but went out of his way to throw in the backhanded insult.

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You're reading wayyyy too much into that 1 to 10 thing, IMO.
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Agreed. If it's not Peyton throwing Adai under the bus, it's Shanny disrespecting Bell. A bunch of women here, apparently.
 
:lmao: at people still believing in Dayne.

this is a recurring joke that never gets old.

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You keep believing that. No one believed Shanahan last year when he said Anderson would be the starter. So, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice......well, you know how it goes.
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dayne <> andersonunfortunately the board threads have been pruned or else i would show year after year how people said dayne would finally break out.

fool you once? people have been fooled by dayne 5 years in a row now. it is laughable.

this is who you think should be taken in the mid rounds?

            |          Rushing         |        Receiving        |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year  TM |   G |   Att  Yards    Y/A   TD |   Rec  Yards   Y/R   TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 2000 nyg |  16 |   228    770    3.4    5 |     3     11   3.7    0 || 2001 nyg |  16 |   180    690    3.8    7 |     8     67   8.4    0 || 2002 nyg |  16 |   125    428    3.4    3 |    11     49   4.5    0 || 2004 nyg |  14 |    52    179    3.4    1 |     1      7   7.0    0 || 2005 den |  10 |    53    270    5.1    1 |     3     17   5.7    0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+|  TOTAL   |  72 |   638   2337    3.7   17 |    26    151   5.8    0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+<{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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But I heard Dayne is coming to camp in the best shape of his life!!!
 
:lmao: at people still believing in Dayne.

this is a recurring joke that never gets old.

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You keep believing that. No one believed Shanahan last year when he said Anderson would be the starter. So, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice......well, you know how it goes.
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dayne <> andersonunfortunately the board threads have been pruned or else i would show year after year how people said dayne would finally break out.

fool you once? people have been fooled by dayne 5 years in a row now. it is laughable.

this is who you think should be taken in the mid rounds?

            |          Rushing         |        Receiving        |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year  TM |   G |   Att  Yards    Y/A   TD |   Rec  Yards   Y/R   TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 2000 nyg |  16 |   228    770    3.4    5 |     3     11   3.7    0 || 2001 nyg |  16 |   180    690    3.8    7 |     8     67   8.4    0 || 2002 nyg |  16 |   125    428    3.4    3 |    11     49   4.5    0 || 2004 nyg |  14 |    52    179    3.4    1 |     1      7   7.0    0 || 2005 den |  10 |    53    270    5.1    1 |     3     17   5.7    0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+|  TOTAL   |  72 |   638   2337    3.7   17 |    26    151   5.8    0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+<{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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But I heard Dayne is coming to camp in the best shape of his life!!!
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Anyone know who this could be....
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:lmao: at people still believing in Dayne.

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You keep believing that. No one believed Shanahan last year when he said Anderson would be the starter. So, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice......well, you know how it goes.
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dayne <> andersonunfortunately the board threads have been pruned or else i would show year after year how people said dayne would finally break out.

fool you once? people have been fooled by dayne 5 years in a row now. it is laughable.

this is who you think should be taken in the mid rounds?

            |          Rushing         |        Receiving        |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year  TM |   G |   Att  Yards    Y/A   TD |   Rec  Yards   Y/R   TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 2000 nyg |  16 |   228    770    3.4    5 |     3     11   3.7    0 || 2001 nyg |  16 |   180    690    3.8    7 |     8     67   8.4    0 || 2002 nyg |  16 |   125    428    3.4    3 |    11     49   4.5    0 || 2004 nyg |  14 |    52    179    3.4    1 |     1      7   7.0    0 || 2005 den |  10 |    53    270    5.1    1 |     3     17   5.7    0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+|  TOTAL   |  72 |   638   2337    3.7   17 |    26    151   5.8    0 |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+<{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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But I heard Dayne is coming to camp in the best shape of his life!!!
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Could it be :yawn: Olandis Gary :yawn:
 
Rotoworld, sorry if Honda:

Broncos GM Ted Sundquist indicated the Broncos plan to use Tatum Bell in a similar rotation role as last year.

"You have the speed/breakaway guy (Bell) who seems to be at his best when he carries the ball one to 10 times, and then you've got the power guy on the inside," Sundquist said. It worked well for Denver last season, who finished second in the league in rushing. It also led to highly inconsistent production for Bell's fantasy owners. Its interesting to note Denver targeted Laurence Maroney with their first-round pick before trading up for Jay Cutler instead. May. 5 - 4:39 pm et

Source: DenverBroncos.com

Denver GM Ted Sundquist admits the team plans to use Ron Dayne in the same role Mike Anderson had last year.

Anderson finished with 56 more carries than Tatum Bell last season. Look for Dayne and Bell to have a similar split in 2006, with Dayne getting the goal-line work. If Dayne comes close to matching Anderson's production, he's a top 20 fantasy back. Ron Dayne! May. 5 - 4:42 pm et

Source: DenverBroncos.com

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it was the gm, not shanahan, that made the quotes in the initial post. not sure if it matters much, but kffl got it wrong
 
I'll tell you what. Let's play a little let's pretend. Let's pretend that Dayne is going to fill Anderson's role exactly, and let's use the stats Anderson has had last year, Dayne's career stats outside of DEN, and then a NYG/DEN premium to see how the two teams factor regarding rushing yards during last season compared to Dayne's time in NY.

First off, Anderson's role last year:

Anderson rushed in 15 games, gaining 1014 yds on 239 carries. Let's be fair & throw out week 1, since he wasn't the featured RB that week & gained 4 yds on 5 carries (all down by the goal line, I believe). That give Anderson 14 games, 1009 rush yds, and 235 carries.

That's about 17 carries a game, and 12 TDs in those 14 games.

Now, let's pretend that Dayne fills the same role for the Giants that Anderson filled with DEN last year. That is, let's look at Dayne stats when he had 17 or more carries a game for the Giants. Dayne carried 17 or more times in 13 games, gaining 984 yds in 264 carries & scored 9 TDs.

That's 3.72 ypc and a TD every 29.3 carries. So if we project Dayne at 17 carries a game and 3.72 ypc and a TD every 29.3 carries, in 16 games in DEN filling Anderson's role, Dayne would gain:

1012 yds and 9.28 TDs on 272 carries.

Now, during Dayne's time in NY, the Giants averaged 1825 yds rushing and 13 TDs per season. Last year DEN gained 2539 yds rushing and scored 25 rushing TDs. It would be awfully hard to deny that DEN is a better rushing team than the Giants. So, if we pro rate DEN's rushing game vs the Giants rushing game, we get a premium of 2539/1825 = 1.38 for rushing yds and 25/13 = 1.92 for TDs. Surprisingly (or perhaps not surprisingly), when we apply the multiplier to Dayne's rushing average at NY, we get about his rushing average in DEN. N ow, let's be conservative and apply half the premium factor for both rushing yards & TDs, using 1.19 for yds & 1.46 for TDs. So we get:

1204 rushing yds and 14 rushing TDs in 272 carries for Dayne next year in 16 games if he were to take over Anderson's role. That would put Dayne as the 12th best rusher last year, and the 4th best rushing TD scorer. That would also put Dayne right at Anderson's averages last year for TDs and only slightly better than Anderson's ypg last year - by 3.17 yards per game.

That doesn't seem so far fetched, and the numbers in DEN, in NY, and for Anderson bear them out.

Hate all you want, but if you're real big on stats like bagger, that's the way the numbers bear out.

 
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