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lebowski

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I was just looking at the staff rankings and this absolutely SHOCKED me. I know Larry Johnson is many peoples choice for being the #1 RB this year and LT is still a great talent, but Alexander had one GREAT season last year and has been a fantasy stud for some time now. Is there anyone out there that has an opinion on this? Can anyone argue for Alexander? How much of an effect is the loss of Hutchingson really going to affect him?

 
I agree that it's a bit surprising that no one has Alexander at the top spot, but to be fair, I think LT, LJ and SA are pretty much interchangeable at the 1/2/3 spots.

 
That's because Seattle doesn't have the easiest schedule in the league and they also revamped the receiving corps (plus a healthy Darrell Jackson).

Plus the OL downgrade....

I expect a solid RB1 production, but I would rather have Portis/LT/LJ over him this year, and a few others that I wouldn't personally be bold enough to take over SA.

 
I have Alexander as the #1 FFRB because of his combined high ceiling/high floor.

I believe Johnson has a slightly higher ceiling, but -- although it's overblown -- he does have more risk associated with him. Tomlinson would be less of a risk but I don't think he has the potential to explode like both Alexander and Johnson do.

 
I agree that it's a bit surprising that no one has Alexander at the top spot, but to be fair, I think LT, LJ and SA are pretty much interchangeable at the 1/2/3 spots.
:goodposting: You'd think there'd be at least 1 staffer that valued SA. Of course, LJ is kinda the flavor of the moment. It can also be that SA is being taken for granted, as much as one can take an uber-stud for granted.

I would agree that LT, LJ, and SA are all interchangeable and you can't go wrong with any of the three.

 
i am not an Alexander fan by any stretch of the imagination but i know whats going on here

Alexander is a product of his system, his monster offensive line, and he's flat out boring

people just dont really care about him, he plays in Seattle which is always a late game and the country is just asleep on him.

he's good, but his team and system make him a better fantasy player than real life player, and i think thats why you see people ignoring him or passing him over

i'd take him top 3 no problem, but im in the same boat as everyone else i think

i think LJ and LT are head and shoulders more talented players, and i think that if you put LT behind Seattle's line, it would be laughable the numbers he would be putting up

 
i am not an Alexander fan by any stretch of the imagination but i know whats going on here

Alexander is a product of his system, his monster offensive line, and he's flat out boring

people just dont really care about him, he plays in Seattle which is always a late game and the country is just asleep on him.

he's good, but his team and system make him a better fantasy player than real life player, and i think thats why you see people ignoring him or passing him over

i'd take him top 3 no problem, but im in the same boat as everyone else i think

i think LJ and LT are head and shoulders more talented players, and i think that if you put LT behind Seattle's line, it would be laughable the numbers he would be putting up
That was some solid out-of-box analysis. Hadn't thought of it like that.... :goodposting:
 
Anyone else surprised that this topic comes up about once a day? SA is the #3 RB this year. If you have the #3 pick, smile and say thank you. If you have a top three pick, smile and say thank you. If you have #4, tell #3 that Portis is going to be huge and should be had at #3. I realize that its early July, but SA at #3 is only someone's opinion! Deal with it. Either agree or disagree, but deal with it.

Now, what do you think about TO in Dallas?

 
Rodney Dangerfield of FF.

PS, I don't have him at #1 this year either. :ph34r:

No, it's not an outrage that SA is not ranked #1 by any of the staff. What is concering is that the average differential between him and LJ/LT is so high IMO. This would indicate that there really isn't a big 3 to the staff, but a big 2. I don't think that is very representitve of what is really going on. But then again I think Portis is #1 this year with him and LT being a tier above SA and LJ. ;)

 
Another factor might be the Super Bowl loser hangover syndrome, and not wanting to bet against a streak.

The past few SB losers have collapsed faster than housing prices in Chernobyl. If Seattle continues the trend, then Alexander's numbers will probably be the primary victim of the collapse. Hutchinson's leaving only strengthened the arguement that this will happen. It introduces too much risk into a high pick that will end your season by drafting a mistake.

BTW, I'd still take him 4th, but I have LT,LJ and Portis as my top 3

 
The loss of Hutch will be noticeable, but not by as much to knock SA down appreciably. Womack can easily step in and put up at least 80% of Hutch's skill. That means SA loses 20% of 1/6 of his blocking. He still has 3 ProBowl blockers in front of him in a high powered offense that's played together for most of 5 years. Their WR upgrade will be tempered by an improved D, keeping the rock in SA's hands just as much as before.

He'll put up sick numbers again and any talk of Portis being a better pick than him in the top 3 is as credible as the same idea was last year. Possible of course, but no reason to predict it at this point. There are many more knocks against LT this year than SA. New QB, re-shuffled line, tougher division, etc... LJ just plain looks like a stud and I have a hard time putting anyone ahead of him.

I would rank them as such:

LJ

SA

LT

CP

 
SA will be a top 3 again this year.

He will score at least 15 TD's probably 20.

He has shown this throughout his career.

In HP PPR leagues he is not as valuable as LT and LJ will just be sick as the full time starter from week 1.

If you have a top 3 pick it is golden this season.

End of Story.

 
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The thing that gets me about Alexander is he is a TD machine and he WILL get the rock inside the 10. I could easily see him putting up over 20 TD's this season still. I don't think I can say that for LT. I am pretty certain I can say the same for LJ this year though. Right now I have LJ #1 and SA #2 but I starting to worry about LJ's question marks this year and I keep hearing whispers of Holmes possibly returning this year. Again it seems like Alexander is the safest pick this year and he is always underrated in my opinion.

Is there anyone else who has him ranked #1 that would like to argue FOR Alexander?

 
You could definitely argue that SA is the "safest" of the "Big 3", and I would certainly agree. With his consistent production and good health, I wouldn't blame anyone for selecting him at 1.1. LJ, as good as he is, has only had one good (albeit amazing) year (actually 1/2 year), so there's no track record there; LT2 has Phil Rivers chucking the rock this year, need I say more?

All in all, depending on the league scoring system, I very well may grab SA #1. It is definitely shocking that no staff member has him #1. I would strongly suspect that by mid August, at least 2 staffers will change their pick to SA. LJ/LT are the more sexy picks, but both (especially LT) have question marks this year. LJ's line, although still good, has deteriorated slightly.

I would say in most leagues, I would draft 1) SA 2) LJ 3a) LT 3b) Portis

 
You could definitely argue that SA is the "safest" of the "Big 3", and I would certainly agree. With his consistent production and good health, I wouldn't blame anyone for selecting him at 1.1. LJ, as good as he is, has only had one good (albeit amazing) year (actually 1/2 year), so there's no track record there; LT2 has Phil Rivers chucking the rock this year, need I say more?

All in all, depending on the league scoring system, I very well may grab SA #1. It is definitely shocking that no staff member has him #1. I would strongly suspect that by mid August, at least 2 staffers will change their pick to SA. LJ/LT are the more sexy picks, but both (especially LT) have question marks this year. LJ's line, although still good, has deteriorated slightly.

I would say in most leagues, I would draft 1) SA 2) LJ 3a) LT 3b) Portis
We see eye to eye here... I'm thinking by August Alexander may be my #1 ranked RB this year.

 
You could definitely argue that SA is the "safest" of the "Big 3", and I would certainly agree.  With his consistent production and good health, I wouldn't blame anyone for selecting him at 1.1.  LJ, as good as he is, has only had one good (albeit amazing) year (actually 1/2 year), so there's no track record there; LT2 has Phil Rivers chucking the rock this year, need I say more?

All in all, depending on the league scoring system, I very well may grab SA #1.  It is definitely shocking that no staff member has him #1.  I would strongly suspect that by mid August, at least 2 staffers will change their pick to SA.  LJ/LT are the more sexy picks, but both (especially LT) have question marks this year.  LJ's line, although still good, has deteriorated slightly.

I would say in most leagues, I would draft 1) SA  2) LJ  3a) LT  3b) Portis
Who did LT have before Brees??? What were his numbers then??Nuff said.

Anyone one who knows football should have 0 questions about LJ...Holmes is done and if he comes back will be a 2nd stringer. LJ is the man and will light up the NFL this year and for years to come. He is a load with speed and hands.

In Hp scorinf

LJ

LT

SA

Again you can't go wrong with any of them.

Not much to debate.

 
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That's because Seattle doesn't have the easiest schedule in the league and they also revamped the receiving corps (plus a healthy Darrell Jackson).
Actually, they are tied with the Vikings for the 3rd easiest schedule in the league. On paper, only the Packers and Bears have an easier schedule.
 
Don't forget about the Madden curse. :X
:goodposting: or the Fantasy Index cover curse..

or the H-U-G-E contract he signed..maybe he won't try as hard anymore..he got the cotract he wanted, its all downhill from here..

just icing on the cake.

 
That's because Seattle doesn't have the easiest schedule in the league and they also revamped the receiving corps (plus a healthy Darrell Jackson).
Actually, they are tied with the Vikings for the 3rd easiest schedule in the league. On paper, only the Packers and Bears have an easier schedule.
I actuall have SA with the best chance to lead the NFL again. For those who believe in SOS I feel he has the best shot. He is the best RB w/a top 10 easiest Rushing SOS.If you are interested check out my SOS. (post 36) If you don't believe in SOS ignore this.

Footballguystalk -> Week 17 included in projections

EDIT: sorry it won't let me post the link or I'm too stupid to figure it out.

 
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That's because Seattle doesn't have the easiest schedule in the league and they also revamped the receiving corps (plus a healthy Darrell Jackson).
Actually, they are tied with the Vikings for the 3rd easiest schedule in the league. On paper, only the Packers and Bears have an easier schedule.
I actuall have SA with the best chance to lead the NFL again. For those who believe in SOS I feel he has the best shot. He is the best RB w/a top 10 easiest Rushing SOS.If you are interested check out my SOS. (post 36) If you don't believe in SOS ignore this.

Footballguystalk -> Week 17 included in projections

EDIT: sorry it won't let me post the link or I'm too stupid to figure it out.
:goodposting: And for those of you think his massive contract will change the way he runs...I've got news for you, he's never been a punishing runner. He looked to avoid contact when he was underpaid, and he'll continue to run with the same elusive style now that he's one of the highest paid RB's in football.

 
:blackdot:

I'm still suprised by no FBG having SA #1. With all the news of LJ losing his OL. I still don't know who I have ranked #1 but I'm just suprised no one has alexander.

 

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