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Tatum Bell says, "I'm the man...we all know it." (1 Viewer)
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diesel7982
Footballguy
Perhaps thats why he fumbles so often.
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MLBrandow
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"In other news, the Denver Broncos released habitual underperformer Tatum Bell today...."
JohnnyU
Footballguy
The only way Bell is ever going to be "the man", is if he's playing for someone other than Shanahan. For some reason Shanahan either doesn't like Bell, or just wants to use him 10-12 times a game, because he sees Bell as more effective in that role. Besides, it doesn't matter who the top dog in Denver is when looking at a dynasty league, because Shanahan's pet project this year is sure to change next year. This is just the way that whacko works. He can't get out of the way of his own ego.
Edited to say that Shanahan would rather take someone like Dayne, Sapp, or Cobbs and have them be successful in "his" system, than give the rock to someone everyone expects to be the starter, who has more talent. Again, his ego at play wants everyone to see what a so called "genius" he is. Pathetic if you ask me.
Edited to say that Shanahan would rather take someone like Dayne, Sapp, or Cobbs and have them be successful in "his" system, than give the rock to someone everyone expects to be the starter, who has more talent. Again, his ego at play wants everyone to see what a so called "genius" he is. Pathetic if you ask me.
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The Jacket
Footballguy
Bell isn't as talented, but given the opportunity, I don't think it's a stretch to say he could have a Larry Johnson-TYPE impact.
1500 yards, 15+ touchdowns.
1500 yards, 15+ touchdowns.
BoltBacker
Footballguy
That's pretty much why there's a discussion going on.
Verbal Kint
Footballguy
He said this last preseason too.
Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Is it just me or is there something incongruous about someone with the name Tatum calling himself "THE MAN"?
The only other first name Tatums I've ever heard of are actresses O Neal, Adair, and McCann (the little girl in the Adam Sandler movie Click). A Google images search also came up with Tatum Dagelet (female foreign actress or model or something) and a bunch of regular folks, all female.
The only male Tatum I found was Bell. Maybe the "the man" ought to change his name to give himself a better chance.
The only other first name Tatums I've ever heard of are actresses O Neal, Adair, and McCann (the little girl in the Adam Sandler movie Click). A Google images search also came up with Tatum Dagelet (female foreign actress or model or something) and a bunch of regular folks, all female.
The only male Tatum I found was Bell. Maybe the "the man" ought to change his name to give himself a better chance.
Flying Spaghetti Monster
Footballguy
Tatum will be used like he was last year unless Dayne gets hurt.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
It's very possible that even if Dayne is hurt or ineffective Bell's role will remain limited. I think Cobbs could fill the Mike Anderson role probably better than Dayne.
Jack Ham & Eggs
Footballguy
Cedric Cobbs 
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I just think (and so do many others) that Shanahan is in love with the idea of using a different RB every year, or every couple years, to feed his ego. I truly believe that he feels you or I could run for a 1000 yds in "his" system.Johnny,That's good to hear. I generally respect your opinion. But that sounded too much as someone who had Bell and was upset, so I was about to discard your feedback.
Cheers man
Islander
Footballguy
Oh man, if I could run for 1000 yds in his system, I would buy you beer for the rest of your lifeI just think (and so do many others) that Shanahan is in love with the idea of using a different RB every year, or every couple years, to feed his ego. I truly believe that he feels you or I could run for a 1000 yds in "his" system.Johnny,That's good to hear. I generally respect your opinion. But that sounded too much as someone who had Bell and was upset, so I was about to discard your feedback.
Cheers man
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Where do I sign up? I'm such a nice guy, I'll even play for the league minimum. What is it now, $575,000?
Trey
Footballguy
Doesn't the term "we" usually carry a conotation of involving more than one person? Who other that Tatum himself "knows it"? Are we talking like friends and family or something? Because "we" certainly doesn't include Mike Shanahan nor does it include the STARTING runningback Ron Dayne.
CalBear
Footballguy
And you think Ron Dayne is significantly better in that metric? Calculating by hand (so possibly off by a couple), and eliminating short runs for TDs, I have Tatum Bell with 71 carries for 4+ yards, 100 carries for 3 or fewer yards in 2005--41.5% of his carries were for at least 4 yards. Dayne? 25 carries of 54, for a whopping 46.3%.
Islander
Footballguy
JU deserves some respect please. We are blessed to have him here.Thank you.Bruce, you couldn't run for a 1000 yds in the back of a pickup truck.Where do I sign up? I'm such a nice guy, I'll even play for the league minimum. What is it now, $575,000?
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Couch Potato
Footballguy
Islander clearly has to be a Johnny U alias.Johnny U, you tha MAN! BEER FOR LIFE TO JOHNNY U!. Just feed off my bank account pleaseI'll take a Michelob, and thanksOh man, if I could run for 1000 yds in his system, I would buy you beer for the rest of your life
You are the greatest on FBG forum
SSOG
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In other news, Ashley Lelie is in actuality a #1 Wideout.
You crack me up.
This gets a *BIG* fat
from me. If that's the case, then why the hell did Shanny even bother drafting Bell in the second round in the first place? Are you honestly suggesting that Shanahan spent a 2nd round pick just so he'd have a more talented back to start Dayne in favor of?
You know what? I think you're on to something here.First, Denver has two of its starting CBs becoming restricted free agents. They give the high tender to Lenny Walls, and let KELLY Herndon walk without getting compensated. Next, they start discriminating against ASHLEY Lelie, who would OBVIOUSLY be one of the best #1 WRs in the league, by bringing in other WRs and bumping him down the depth chart. Now, they're REFUSING to give TATUM Bell a chance to be the full-time guy. Are you noticing a pattern here?
That's right. Shanny's a misogynist!
Shanahan doesn't do it to feed his ego. He does it because, why pay $4 million a year for a 1500 yard running back when he could just spend $500,000 a year on a 1200 yard running back instead? Simple economics. Makes a lot of sense, too. I mean, did everyone refuse to trade for Edgerrin James and Shaun Alexander last offseason because their EGO told them that anyone could succeed in their systems? HECK NO! They refused to trade for James/Alexander because they knew they could get comparable production at a mere fraction of the price!
Funny that you chose 4+ yards as the breakpoint. I've posted several times this offseason comparing Bell and Dayne's "success rate" last year. A run is "successful" if it gains 40% of the yards necessary on first down, 60% on 2nd down, or 100% on 3rd/4th down. Tatum Bell's success rate last year was 43% (29th in the NFL). Ron Dayne's was 60% (2nd in the NFL).
Islander
Footballguy
I am so disappointed SSOG. Me or Johnny U should at least be in your list of reliable posters.In other news, Ashley Lelie is in actuality a #1 Wideout.You crack me up.This gets a *BIG* fatYou know what? I think you're on to something here.First, Denver has two of its starting CBs becoming restricted free agents. They give the high tender to Lenny Walls, and let KELLY Herndon walk without getting compensated. Next, they start discriminating against ASHLEY Lelie, who would OBVIOUSLY be one of the best #1 WRs in the league, by bringing in other WRs and bumping him down the depth chart. Now, they're REFUSING to give TATUM Bell a chance to be the full-time guy. Are you noticing a pattern here?
That's right. Shanny's a misogynist!
Shanahan doesn't do it to feed his ego. He does it because, why pay $4 million a year for a 1500 yard running back when he could just spend $500,000 a year on a 1200 yard running back instead? Simple economics. Makes a lot of sense, too. I mean, did everyone refuse to trade for Edgerrin James and Shaun Alexander last offseason because their EGO told them that anyone could succeed in their systems? HECK NO! They refused to trade for James/Alexander because they knew they could get comparable production at a mere fraction of the price!Funny that you chose 4+ yards as the breakpoint. I've posted several times this offseason comparing Bell and Dayne's "success rate" last year. A run is "successful" if it gains 40% of the yards necessary on first down, 60% on 2nd down, or 100% on 3rd/4th down. Tatum Bell's success rate last year was 43% (29th in the NFL). Ron Dayne's was 60% (2nd in the NFL).
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Actually, I do have one other alias, but that isn't it. It's Couch PotatoIslander clearly has to be a Johnny U alias.Johnny U, you tha MAN! BEER FOR LIFE TO JOHNNY U!. Just feed off my bank account pleaseI'll take a Michelob, and thanksOh man, if I could run for 1000 yds in his system, I would buy you beer for the rest of your life
You are the greatest on FBG forum
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