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Jets RB hunt continues (1 Viewer)

Kiddnets

Kiddnets

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Saw this in the Suggs post but figured we could use a new thread for Jet RB news as they will be very active the next few days. As a Jet fan I would love Duckett - I could live with a 3rd rd pick as well - is he a UFA next yr though? Barlow I would only take for a late rd pick.

Jets "Very Interested" In RB Duckett

Rich Cimini, New York Daily News - [Full Article]

The Jets say RB Lee Suggs isn't physically fit to play football. The Jets voided the deal yesterday because of a surgically repaired knee that concerned them, according to multiple sources. The Jets, fearing that RB Curtis Martin won't be ready for the season opener because of a career-threatening knee injury, hope to make another trade in the coming days. Two prominent names on their short list are the Falcons' RB T.J. Duckett and the 49ers' RB Kevan Barlow, both more accomplished than Suggs. They're "very interested" in Duckett, a source said. The Falcons are expected to put Duckett on the trading block after this weekend's games.

Star Ledger reports:

Falcons running back T.J. Duckett is now believed to be on the Jets' radar and may be available for a third-round pick, a price the Jets appear willing to pay. Duckett and Suggs are both represented by Joel Segal, who didn't return several phone calls yesterday.

 
Just thinking out loud....

The Pats have some pretty good depth @ RB now that this kid Patrick Cobbs looking like a keeper (I know, only one game).

The RB depth chart has: Dillon, Maroney, Faulk, Cobbs.

The FB depth chart has: Pass, Heath Evans and rookie Mills.

I'm thinking that they could get something for Cobbs (who cost them nothing as an undrafted rookie) if he keep this show up.

 
dudaman said:
Just thinking out loud....The Pats have some pretty good depth @ RB now that this kid Patrick Cobbs looking like a keeper (I know, only one game).The RB depth chart has: Dillon, Maroney, Faulk, Cobbs.The FB depth chart has: Pass, Heath Evans and rookie Mills.I'm thinking that they could get something for Cobbs (who cost them nothing as an undrafted rookie) if he keep this show up.
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they'd never trade a RB to help out the Jets.
 
BlueOnion said:
Kiddnets said:
...and may be available for a third-round pick, a price the Jets appear willing to pay.
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:confused: 3rd round pick would be a steal, I highly doubt the Falcons would part with Duckett for a 3rd.
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With Duckett being a UFA next year he can fly the coop and the Falcons will receive nothing in return.IMO getting a third round pick for next year is worth more than one years production; especially since the like Norwood.
 
Colin Dowling said:
BlueOnion said:
Kiddnets said:
...and may be available for a third-round pick, a price the Jets appear willing to pay.
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:confused: 3rd round pick would be a steal, I highly doubt the Falcons would part with Duckett for a 3rd.
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I suspect they would.
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I agree. Remember, last year neither Edge nor SA could be dealt for a third. In fact, I think the Jets could possibly lower their offer as they are bound to have a high 4th round selection.
 
Colin Dowling said:
BlueOnion said:
Kiddnets said:
...and may be available for a third-round pick, a price the Jets appear willing to pay.
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:confused: 3rd round pick would be a steal, I highly doubt the Falcons would part with Duckett for a 3rd.
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I suspect they would.
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I might if I was them. However, I believe the Falcons balked at other inquiries (all rumor speculation, no link) this offseason and I think the Falcons were adament that they at least wanted a 2nd round pick.
 
Sweet Love said:
Colin Dowling said:
BlueOnion said:
Kiddnets said:
...and may be available for a third-round pick, a price the Jets appear willing to pay.
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:confused: 3rd round pick would be a steal, I highly doubt the Falcons would part with Duckett for a 3rd.
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I suspect they would.
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I agree. Remember, last year neither Edge nor SA could be dealt for a third. In fact, I think the Jets could possibly lower their offer as they are bound to have a high 4th round selection.
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agreed. i think if the jets have offered their 3rd that ATL would have been all over it since it is pretty much as good as a low 2nd. unless the Jets have another 3rd that i don't know of.
 
No one will be able to carry the ball short yardage or between the tackles if Duckett left. This would be a huge mistake by ATL IMO.

 
cws3030 said:
Sweet Love said:
Colin Dowling said:
BlueOnion said:
Kiddnets said:
...and may be available for a third-round pick, a price the Jets appear willing to pay.
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:confused: 3rd round pick would be a steal, I highly doubt the Falcons would part with Duckett for a 3rd.
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I suspect they would.
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I agree. Remember, last year neither Edge nor SA could be dealt for a third. In fact, I think the Jets could possibly lower their offer as they are bound to have a high 4th round selection.
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agreed. i think if the jets have offered their 3rd that ATL would have been all over it since it is pretty much as good as a low 2nd. unless the Jets have another 3rd that i don't know of.
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Jets have an extra 2nd rder via deal with the Skins - no extra 3rd rder. I would not give up a 3rd rder for a 1 yr rental on a crappy team - he better be extended if they give up the pick. I think Atlanta would do the deal - they alreayd have his replacement who looks good. They will also probably land an extra 1st rder for Schaub in the off season.
 
This is pretty bad news on the state of the Jets backfield if they are considering every other backup RB in the league.

 
ATC1 said:
No one will be able to carry the ball short yardage or between the tackles if Duckett left. This would be a huge mistake by ATL IMO.
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And a huge upgrade for the Jets. A 3rd? Absolutely! Atlanta would find a replacement to theshort yardage/goal-line situation.
 
Kiddnets said:
MLBrandow said:
This is pretty bad news on the state of the Jets backfield if they are considering every other backup RB in the league.
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You must have missed the past few weeks - it's a train wreck. The Lee Suggs debacle cemented that!!!
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I disagree with the train Wreck....This is pretty much how I wanted it to play out- See what Houston and Blaylock can do and then get a cheap guy to hold the fort until next year's draft, if need be.Martin, at best had a year or so left and wasn't going to be the answer if/when this team competes again.It's a rebuilding year, Build the OL and it doesn't matter who the RB is this year. Next year Peterson will be icing on the cake to an OL much further along.No reason to spend Picks or $$$$ this year at RB.
 
Reaper said:
No reason to spend Picks or $$$$ this year at RB.
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I agree. I don't think it's nearly as much of a train wreck as some surmise, but the running game is obviously a big issue.Mangini and Co. are not going to find the answer at this point, so why not see what you already have on board? If need be, address the situation next year with a high draft pick or via free agency.
 
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zamboni said:
Reaper said:
No reason to spend Picks or $$$$ this year at RB.
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I agree. I don't think it's nearly as much of a train wreck as some surmise, but the running game is obviously a big issue.Mangini and Co. are not going to find the answer at this point, so what see what you already have on board? If need be, address the situation next year with a high draft pick or via free agency.
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Seems like they're determined to do it, though. I agree that it could be the wrong move.
 
Don't see how Duckett is going to help that much anyway. The Jets are going to be playing catchup all year and will have to count on<gulp>Chad Pennington's "arm" to score. They're in deep trouble. :(

 
Kiddnets said:
cws3030 said:
Sweet Love said:
Colin Dowling said:
BlueOnion said:
Kiddnets said:
...and may be available for a third-round pick, a price the Jets appear willing to pay.
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:confused: 3rd round pick would be a steal, I highly doubt the Falcons would part with Duckett for a 3rd.
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I suspect they would.
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I agree. Remember, last year neither Edge nor SA could be dealt for a third. In fact, I think the Jets could possibly lower their offer as they are bound to have a high 4th round selection.
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agreed. i think if the jets have offered their 3rd that ATL would have been all over it since it is pretty much as good as a low 2nd. unless the Jets have another 3rd that i don't know of.
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Jets have an extra 2nd rder via deal with the Skins - no extra 3rd rder. I would not give up a 3rd rder for a 1 yr rental on a crappy team - he better be extended if they give up the pick. I think Atlanta would do the deal - they alreayd have his replacement who looks good. They will also probably land an extra 1st rder for Schaub in the off season.
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i'd only imagine the jets doin a deal if they can get duckett signed to a longer deal.
 
Layin said:
Don't see how Duckett is going to help that much anyway. The Jets are going to be playing catchup all year and will have to count on<gulp>Chad Pennington's "arm" to score. They're in deep trouble. :(
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I agree they don't look good on paper, but that's why they play the games.
 
All the rumors prior to the drtaft said ATL wanted Pgh's 3rd round pick for TJD but Pgh wouldn't offer higher than their 5th (going from memory, anyway.)

 
eric shelton?

would that make sense?

he could be had cheap, couldn't he? and he has some potential?

 
There's a big gap between trading Derrick Strait, a reserve CB being tried out at S, for an often-injured backup RB in Lee Suggs, and trading a 3rd-round pick for a player like TJ Duckett. It does not follow, in my mind anyway, that being willing to do the first indicates a readiness to do the second.

Also, most of the RBs I've heard about as being of interest to the Jets were in the Derrick Blaylock mold rather than the Cedric Houston mold. Duckett is the only one who doesn't fit that equation. And besides, NY media has now put up about 11-12 RBs that the Jets are interested in. Why should I believe this more than the Chris Brown or Thomas Jones ideas?

 
Z-Dog said:
There's a big gap between trading Derrick Strait, a reserve CB being tried out at S, for an often-injured backup RB in Lee Suggs, and trading a 3rd-round pick for a player like TJ Duckett. It does not follow, in my mind anyway, that being willing to do the first indicates a readiness to do the second.Also, most of the RBs I've heard about as being of interest to the Jets were in the Derrick Blaylock mold rather than the Cedric Houston mold. Duckett is the only one who doesn't fit that equation. And besides, NY media has now put up about 11-12 RBs that the Jets are interested in. Why should I believe this more than the Chris Brown or Thomas Jones ideas?
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Titans have LenDale White, an unknown commodity at RB.Bears have Cedric Benson, who could still be a bust IMO.The Titans or Bears probably won't tradetheir insurance policies at RB until White and Bensonprove they can excel in the NFL.
 
Z-Dog said:
There's a big gap between trading Derrick Strait, a reserve CB being tried out at S, for an often-injured backup RB in Lee Suggs, and trading a 3rd-round pick for a player like TJ Duckett. It does not follow, in my mind anyway, that being willing to do the first indicates a readiness to do the second.Also, most of the RBs I've heard about as being of interest to the Jets were in the Derrick Blaylock mold rather than the Cedric Houston mold. Duckett is the only one who doesn't fit that equation. And besides, NY media has now put up about 11-12 RBs that the Jets are interested in. Why should I believe this more than the Chris Brown or Thomas Jones ideas?
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You shouldn't.
 
Let this trade at least hold off until Monday. My draft is on Sunday, and Gore's value will skyrocket if Barlow gets traded! I'd like to get him relatively cheap.

 
BlueOnion said:
Kiddnets said:
...and may be available for a third-round pick, a price the Jets appear willing to pay.
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:confused: 3rd round pick would be a steal, I highly doubt the Falcons would part with Duckett for a 3rd.
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Are you kidding? The Falcons would LOVE to unload this bust.Last 39 carries of 2005, he had 43 yards. He was utterly useless last year. If Norwood shows any signs he can help at RB, they'll dump Duckett in a second.
 
switz said:
Let this trade at least hold off until Monday. My draft is on Sunday, and Gore's value will skyrocket if Barlow gets traded! I'd like to get him relatively cheap.
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hey switz. you were right. Barlow is a turd. i wish i had seen it earlier.
 
ATC1 said:
No one will be able to carry the ball short yardage or between the tackles if Duckett left. This would be a huge mistake by ATL IMO.
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IIRC, Dunn has done surprisingly well when called upon inside the 3.Who knows..... Griffith or Cobb, maybe?
 
So how would this affect Dunn's value if it happened?

Does Duckett get the goal-line carries because that's a strength of his or more because they want anyone other than Dunn doing it?

 
secretid said:
So how would this affect Dunn's value if it happened?Does Duckett get the goal-line carries because that's a strength of his or more because they want anyone other than Dunn doing it?
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The former. But they also don't want Dunn to take a pounding, being a smaller guy.
 
RAIDERNATION said:
secretid said:
So how would this affect Dunn's value if it happened?Does Duckett get the goal-line carries because that's a strength of his or more because they want anyone other than Dunn doing it?
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The former. But they also don't want Dunn to take a pounding, being a smaller guy.
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That and he is older. But they have Norwood now if he gets hurt up the middle. A duckett trade will bump Norwoods value.
 
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Sigfawn said:
BlueOnion said:
Kiddnets said:
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:confused: 3rd round pick would be a steal, I highly doubt the Falcons would part with Duckett for a 3rd.
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Are you kidding? The Falcons would LOVE to unload this bust.Last 39 carries of 2005, he had 43 yards. He was utterly useless last year. If Norwood shows any signs he can help at RB, they'll dump Duckett in a second.
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You conveniently left out the part where he scored 2 TD's in those 39 carries. Short yardage guys don't often have the greatest YPC. 8 total TD's on the season isn't exactly useless either. By your logic I guess Brandon Jacobs was completely useless last year too?
 
Reaper said:
Kiddnets said:
MLBrandow said:
This is pretty bad news on the state of the Jets backfield if they are considering every other backup RB in the league.
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You must have missed the past few weeks - it's a train wreck. The Lee Suggs debacle cemented that!!!
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I disagree with the train Wreck....This is pretty much how I wanted it to play out- See what Houston and Blaylock can do and then get a cheap guy to hold the fort until next year's draft, if need be.Martin, at best had a year or so left and wasn't going to be the answer if/when this team competes again.It's a rebuilding year, Build the OL and it doesn't matter who the RB is this year. Next year Peterson will be icing on the cake to an OL much further along.No reason to spend Picks or $$$$ this year at RB.
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I really hope the Jets can land Peterson. It would be a great place for him to go.
 
dudaman said:
Just thinking out loud....The Pats have some pretty good depth @ RB now that this kid Patrick Cobbs looking like a keeper (I know, only one game).The RB depth chart has: Dillon, Maroney, Faulk, Cobbs.The FB depth chart has: Pass, Heath Evans and rookie Mills.I'm thinking that they could get something for Cobbs (who cost them nothing as an undrafted rookie) if he keep this show up.
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Guys,Not for nothing but in case you didn't see the memo, Cobbs is no longer on NE. Cobbs is in Denver and is #4 RB there. He is likely to be on the Practice Squad or cut soon so he may be able to be had for free. Not sure that he would be the answer though. JETS and Fireman Ed are in HUGE Trouble!
 
Art_VanDalay said:
dudaman said:
Just thinking out loud....The Pats have some pretty good depth @ RB now that this kid Patrick Cobbs looking like a keeper (I know, only one game).The RB depth chart has: Dillon, Maroney, Faulk, Cobbs.The FB depth chart has: Pass, Heath Evans and rookie Mills.I'm thinking that they could get something for Cobbs (who cost them nothing as an undrafted rookie) if he keep this show up.
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Guys,Not for nothing but in case you didn't see the memo, Cobbs is no longer on NE. Cobbs is in Denver and is #4 RB there. He is likely to be on the Practice Squad or cut soon so he may be able to be had for free. Not sure that he would be the answer though. JETS and Fireman Ed are in HUGE Trouble!
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cedric cobbs is in denver, patrick cobbs is in new england.HTH
 
Art_VanDalay said:
dudaman said:
Just thinking out loud....The Pats have some pretty good depth @ RB now that this kid Patrick Cobbs looking like a keeper (I know, only one game).The RB depth chart has: Dillon, Maroney, Faulk, Cobbs.The FB depth chart has: Pass, Heath Evans and rookie Mills.I'm thinking that they could get something for Cobbs (who cost them nothing as an undrafted rookie) if he keep this show up.
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Guys,Not for nothing but in case you didn't see the memo, Cobbs is no longer on NE. Cobbs is in Denver and is #4 RB there. He is likely to be on the Practice Squad or cut soon so he may be able to be had for free. Not sure that he would be the answer though. JETS and Fireman Ed are in HUGE Trouble!
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Not for nothing but if you didn't read his post, he said PATRICK Cobbs not Cedric Cobbs. I agree however that there are many other teams that are more likely trade partners for the Jetts.
 
I just picked up Houston in my keeper draft in the middle rounds.. I would hate to have wasted that pick.. The good side is if the news comes soon I might be able to get Duckett if he is traded..

 
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