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He needs the historical data. Perfect drafting hindsight is 20/20.
doughboydeluxe
Footballguy
LordHusker
Hot sauce addict
Just don't sign up for FBG's next year until you see the Perfect Draft articles posted. Problem solved.
RageRhino
Footballguy
The problem is we were promised something at a certian time and are still waiting on it. If it had been ok the articles will be posted on August 25th, and they were posted on the 25th from the get-go then i'd deal with that. But when they are promised, and then those promises go unfuflilled, thats my problem.I dont subscribe just for the Perfect Draft articles, but i do enjoy them and wish theyd be posted in a timely manner.Quality over Quanity, and it seems that FBG may have forgotten this.(Part of quality is timeliness)
Raskell5
Footballguy
http://subscribers.footballguys.com/2006/0...s_perfect12.php
You should probably do some checking before you go trashing Joe and co.....
You should probably do some checking before you go trashing Joe and co.....
John Mamula
Moderator
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dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Unacceptable.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
What about the 10 team and 14 team league draft articles?
rzrback77
Footballguy
If you have reviewed the difference in the projections betwwen last week and yesterday, the articles could be quite different between the 12-teamer last week and the ones still to be released. Quite a few changes very late in the game throws everything off. If he posts too early it will only be the "pretty good" draft, not the perfect draft. Just my opinion.
John Mamula
Moderator
however, i can see the point being made that if you wait so long that everyone has already drafted, what value does it have?
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
I want to limit the time I spend researching -- that's why I pay for the service.
I'm sure that's why we are all here.......to do it all by ourself.
I agree on the deadline thing but you have to give them credit, at least they are consistent. They miss the regular season deadlines just like they miss the pre season deadlines.
RageRhino
Footballguy
why dont you take your own advice. There are FOUR installments of the perfect draft articles, and all four of them were promised to us by last friday, then by today, and now what? maybe next friday. I mean hell hopefully they at least get the 10 teamer up by tonight but then they are still only half way there.im dissapointed to say the least.
RageRhino
Footballguy
I do, I think we all do. But we PAY for this service for a reason. And the experts arent drafting for us, but we are paying them to point us in the right direction.
LordHusker
Hot sauce addict
Posts like this happen every year. So predictable. Yes, things run behind. But nobody worry: Those Perfect Draft articles will be up by Friday. There are a ZILLION fantasy drafts this coming weekend. Joe and David are quite aware of this, I'm sure.
Which is exactly the point. Like I say, they are consistent. Consistently behind.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
What about the ZILLION that happened last weekend?
steviey
Footballguy
I know the queston was meant to be rhetorical, but the answer for me now is that it has no value since we drafted this past weekend. And I've already had the shirt on this one so don't bother.
BrentBlack
Footballguy
Posts like this happen every year too. People are paying for a product. They are being promised something and it's not being delivered in a timely fashion. It's really that simple. BTW, I could care less about these articles. I am not subscribing this season (for the first time in years) because of constant broken promises, and a lack of info for 2 QB leagues. I will give credit when credit is due, and say that for the most part these forums are the best that any site has to offer.
LordHusker
Hot sauce addict
Yep. Which brings me back to my original suggestion: If the Perfect Draft articles are that important, do not subscribe to FBG's each year until you see them posted on the home page. But FWIW, any league that drafts more than two weeks before opening day is asking for problems. Don't blame FBG's for that.
BrentBlack
Footballguy
Reading comprehension down?
Thursday will be 2 weeks before the season begins.
Dr. Pepper
Footballguy
fantasyguru has a nice perfect draft article..
RageRhino
Footballguy
well tough, us paying customers dont like getting useful draft content AFTER our drafts. I think busineses are much more likely to listen to multiple customers as opposed to just one.the staff does'nt like being called out in the forums. they like private pms.
RageRhino
Footballguy
So whats the new deadline? Should we go ahead and make it Sept 7th just to be safe.
FBG, this is unacceptable.
The only thing i can think of is that you want to include the newest projections. well at some point you have to make a cut off and just go with it. youve had 3 projections updates since the orginal deadline. The article isn't even useful for me anymore as ive had both of my drafts, but I still can't believe that this can happen.
I'd venture to say that 40% of people have had their primary draft already and another 20% probably will this week. You'd think you'd want at least the majority of your customers to benefit from your content.
Dissatisfied customer here.
FBG, this is unacceptable.
The only thing i can think of is that you want to include the newest projections. well at some point you have to make a cut off and just go with it. youve had 3 projections updates since the orginal deadline. The article isn't even useful for me anymore as ive had both of my drafts, but I still can't believe that this can happen.
I'd venture to say that 40% of people have had their primary draft already and another 20% probably will this week. You'd think you'd want at least the majority of your customers to benefit from your content.
Dissatisfied customer here.
valhallan
Footballguy
Some kind of analysis of the dynamics of 2 QB leagues would be nice. Standard leagues have been beaten to death to the point that even novices know to take RBs early, wait on QBs, etc. 2 QB leagues are still a great unknown with very few hard and fast strategies.
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
What are you paying? Twenty bucks? Relax dood.So whats the new deadline? Should we go ahead and make it Sept 7th just to be safe. FBG, this is unacceptable.
videoguy505
Footballguy
Customers should be able to vent in the forums. As a business, FBG should be up front and public with the people that pay their salaries.
A backup RB was traded for a #3 WR, that's the excuse this time for the lack of an update yesterday. But FBGs should just go with it at some point and publish what the people are paying for. The material here is consistently behind schedule, I understand that things happen but you have to admit that this site is falling behind more often than not.
And many people have to draft early because they have lives--getting 12 guys schedules to mesh isn't easy.
At least I got my .02 before this thread is locked and deleted, as all the others are.
A backup RB was traded for a #3 WR, that's the excuse this time for the lack of an update yesterday. But FBGs should just go with it at some point and publish what the people are paying for. The material here is consistently behind schedule, I understand that things happen but you have to admit that this site is falling behind more often than not.
And many people have to draft early because they have lives--getting 12 guys schedules to mesh isn't easy.
At least I got my .02 before this thread is locked and deleted, as all the others are.
djjosee
Footballguy
Nope ... three leagues: 30th, 31st and September 4th.I'm good for another week.
RageRhino
Footballguy
its closer to 30 bucks DOOD, but what difference does it make. If you go out to dinner and order a nice steak and you wait an hour and still no steak, so you ask your waiter where it is, he tells you it will be out in 10 minutes. well 20 minutes go by and still no steak, so you ask again where is your steak and he says this time, well maybe another 10 minutes i hope.....are you not going to complain? youve been waiting for yout steak for an hour and a half and theres still no sign of it. But ya know what its only $20 bucks...so i guess theyll get to my steak when they feel like it. i mean hell they must be working really hard on it for it to take this long. its worth waiting 2 hours for that perfect steak. give me a break.What are you paying? Twenty bucks? Relax dood.So whats the new deadline? Should we go ahead and make it Sept 7th just to be safe. FBG, this is unacceptable.
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AnonymousBob
Footballguy
Why are people defending fbg's here? I love this site for all the useful information they give me but let's face it: if you promise your customers a product by a certain date, you should deliver it by that date. If you can't meet the deadline then don't make it in the first place. It's not as though this is a new problem. Yes, people can come up with their own information but we pay others for a reason. If I wanted to do all my own research it would cost me nothing but time.
I realize this happens all the time and we should all be used to it. We are. Just because we're used to something doesn't mean we're happy with it.
I realize this happens all the time and we should all be used to it. We are. Just because we're used to something doesn't mean we're happy with it.
RageRhino
Footballguy
Go home rookie, you obviously dont even know what the article is.
Verbal Kint
Footballguy
ScottNorwood said:What are you paying? Twenty bucks? Relax dood.SargentSlim said:So whats the new deadline? Should we go ahead and make it Sept 7th just to be safe. FBG, this is unacceptable.
ScottNorwood
Footballcutie
It's your own fault for filling up on breadSargentSlim said:its closer to 30 bucks DOOD, but what difference does it make. If you go out to dinner and order a nice steak and you wait an hour and still no steak, so you ask your waiter where it is, he tells you it will be out in 10 minutes. well 20 minutes go by and still no steak, so you ask again where is your steak and he says this time, well maybe another 10 minutes i hope.....are you not going to complain? youve been waiting for yout steak for an hour and a half and theres still no sign of it. But ya know what its only $20 bucks...so i guess theyll get to my steak when they feel like it. i mean hell they must be working really hard on it for it to take this long. its worth waiting 2 hours for that perfect steak. give me a break.ScottNorwood said:What are you paying? Twenty bucks? Relax dood.SargentSlim said:So whats the new deadline? Should we go ahead and make it Sept 7th just to be safe. FBG, this is unacceptable.
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
I do find it interesting that no one from FBG has responded to this thread today, at least to give one an idea of why there has been such a delay. This isn't good business.
I tend to agree also that the content release dates seem to have been coming a little later than promised.
I tend to agree also that the content release dates seem to have been coming a little later than promised.
RRaptors
Footballguy
I guess you get what you pay for then. Look, for twenty something dollars FBG's is a great value, I think that is hard to argue. There are a lot of positives that far out number the negatives.But, I think it is a valid argument that it is not good business to repeatedly fall short on your posted deadlines. It is interesting that on the very top of the cover of the FBG magazine the perfect draft article is advertised in a bright red box at the top of the page. So, my guess is that these articles are a very important part of many of the subscribers preparation for the season. Anyway, all I'm saying is I think there are some valid arguments from paying customers that don't appreciate when a deadline keeps changing. More importantly when they express that they are dissatisfied they are railed for even sharing their points, which in many cases are valid. I know, some of the ways that their frustration is shared is not always constructive. Sure, contact the company direct if there is a problem, I agree. However, if the same thing happens over and over, going public is the way it is done all the time in hopes for better results.For what it's worth, I am very pleased overall with FBG's, but I still think it is a valid argument about all the missed deadlines.ScottNorwood said:What are you paying? Twenty bucks? Relax dood.SargentSlim said:So whats the new deadline? Should we go ahead and make it Sept 7th just to be safe. FBG, this is unacceptable.
joffer
Footballguy
not really a good analogy.let's say your order caesar salad, a bowl of crab bisque, 12 oz. filet, asparagus, potatoes au gratin, a manhattan, and cheesecake for dessert, all for the bargain price of $24.95. Everything is delicious. Only problem is half way thru dinner you ask for some extra butter and the waiter is 10 minutes late bringing it. more analogous IMHO.SargentSlim said:
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BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
I agree with both points.
Not like I will die without them, but I have been waiting for the Perfect Auction article since last preseason...
Slinger
Footballguy
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