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Jets RB mess (1 Viewer)

Brock Middlebrook

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Barlow, Houston, Blaylock, Washington, CMart....

How do people see this shaking out?

Will Martin play when he's ready to come back?

How do people see this shaking out? I'm under the impression that most people think Barlow will start, but I've never been that impressed with Barlow....

 
Barlow, Houston, Blaylock, Washington, CMart....

How do people see this shaking out?

Will Martin play when he's ready to come back?

How do people see this shaking out? I'm under the impression that most people think Barlow will start, but I've never been that impressed with Barlow....
There's a start for you. :shrug:
 
Barlow, Houston, Blaylock, Washington, CMart....How do people see this shaking out?Will Martin play when he's ready to come back?How do people see this shaking out? I'm under the impression that most people think Barlow will start, but I've never been that impressed with Barlow....
They want Barlow to make it happen, but we all know as soon as his crotch hurts he will miss time and he has no heart.Blaylock has looked decent and has great hands. I say he ends up leading them most of the year, but what is that saying? That team is awful.
 
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With the other guys in camp already, they traded a solid pick and took on over $10 million in salary over the next 3 years to bring in Barlow. If he's not starting week 1, he'll be starting soon thereafter, because they obviously believe in him.

You can debate his talent all day long, but the only thing we can be sure of is that he'll be running in New York with a lot to prove and a chip on his shoulder. Personally, I think he's every bit as talented as he showed 3 years ago in SF, but enough people have been burned by him before that he'll still slide in drafts.

His supporting cast won't be what it was on the 2003 49ers (with Garcia, Owens, and a strong OL), but it's also going to be far better than what he had in SF the last two years and what Martin ran behind in NY last year.

 
I'm under the impression that most people think Barlow will start, but I've never been that impressed with Barlow....
Same thing with Houston.People are drafting him higher than Blaylock even though Blaylock has started both pre-season games.I think they are basing it on Houston starting games last year when Martin and Blaylock were injured.Would have the pecking order as: Blaylock, Barlow, Houston, Washington - to start the season.Barlow, Blaylock, Houston, Washington - once Barlow learns the playbook a little.
 
I'm under the impression that most people think Barlow will start, but I've never been that impressed with Barlow....
Same thing with Houston.People are drafting him higher than Blaylock even though Blaylock has started both pre-season games.I think they are basing it on Houston starting games last year when Martin and Blaylock were injured.Would have the pecking order as: Blaylock, Barlow, Houston, Washington - to start the season.Barlow, Blaylock, Houston, Washington - once Barlow learns the playbook a little.
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Why would anyone seriously consider drafting a NYJ RB is beyond me..... The Jets will be one of the worst offenses this year and one of the worst teams. Even if Martin starts and plays all year whats the best case scenario 4 td and 800 yds.... Maybe as a 4th RB only....

 
Week 1 - Blaylock/Barlow/Houston

Week 4- Barlow/Blaylock/Houston

If C-Mart comes back, that could really throw a monkey wrench into things if B/B/H have been less than great.

 
Why would anyone seriously consider drafting a NYJ RB is beyond me..... The Jets will be one of the worst offenses this year and one of the worst teams. Even if Martin starts and plays all year whats the best case scenario 4 td and 800 yds.... Maybe as a 4th RB only....
Some people play in competitive leagues where backups are scarce. OH SNAP! Seriously, hes going to be starting and has no competition, so whats your prob?
 
I'm under the impression that most people think Barlow will start, but I've never been that impressed with Barlow....
Same thing with Houston.People are drafting him higher than Blaylock even though Blaylock has started both pre-season games.I think they are basing it on Houston starting games last year when Martin and Blaylock were injured.Would have the pecking order as: Blaylock, Barlow, Houston, Washington - to start the season.Barlow, Blaylock, Houston, Washington - once Barlow learns the playbook a little.
Actually, Leon Washington got the start in the second preseason game against Washington. Blaylock has consistantly been getting 60 to 65% of the snaps with the first team offense, with Washington at around 20% and Houston getting the rest. There is one primary reason Blaylock gets more snaps... he's a decent blocker, while Houston and Washington haven't improved in that area enough yet. Barlow's hands looked pretty good... how is his pass blocking? If he does that well, I can see him starting as soon as week 1. People are underestimating the Jets this year. Ferguson is a better run blocker than expected, and both rookie linemen are fast, they can pull and arleady are very good run blockers in space.... both Mangold and Ferguson made downfield blocks that sprung Brad Smith for that 61 yard TD on a reverse. Kendall is back at LG where he belongs, and Clement has surprised me.... I really thought he was terrible, but he's beaten out Jones at RT. Pennington is throwing better than he has since 2002. Cotchery starting over McCariens is an upgrade. Brad Smith is being worked in. Leon Washington is a speed merchant, and very shifty.... he gets some snaps at WR too. Going into camp, I thought it looked like a 4 or 5 win season. Now, it looks more like 6 or 7, and only at the very outside, an 8-8 season. If Barlow works out, 8-8 isn't impossible.
 
stlrams said:
Why would anyone seriously consider drafting a NYJ RB is beyond me..... The Jets will be one of the worst offenses this year and one of the worst teams. Even if Martin starts and plays all year whats the best case scenario 4 td and 800 yds.... Maybe as a 4th RB only....
Anyone in a league with more than 8 owners is going to draft these guys. We draft really early in my league. Had FA night the night of the first day of the NFL draft in April. I saw that after 3 rounds the Jets hadn't taken a RB. I called out Houston and signed him to my squad. No one countered my bid ($1 million out of a $32 million cap). I was pretty happy. Drafted Blaylock at the end of July. But once they traded for Barlow I sent both guys packing for a 4th rounder (the equivalent of a 23rd rounder in a redraft league) just to free up the roster spot. The guy that traded for him only had 2 running games (1 of which is LJ). He needed the 3rd running game to fill in on bye weeks. Traded a chump WR and a 3rd rounder for Barlow from another guy.
 
stlrams said:
Why would anyone seriously consider drafting a NYJ RB is beyond me..... The Jets will be one of the worst offenses this year and one of the worst teams. Even if Martin starts and plays all year whats the best case scenario 4 td and 800 yds.... Maybe as a 4th RB only....
Anyone in a league with more than 8 owners is going to draft these guys. We draft really early in my league. Had FA night the night of the first day of the NFL draft in April. I saw that after 3 rounds the Jets hadn't taken a RB. I called out Houston and signed him to my squad. No one countered my bid ($1 million out of a $32 million cap). I was pretty happy. Drafted Blaylock at the end of July. But once they traded for Barlow I sent both guys packing for a 4th rounder (the equivalent of a 23rd rounder in a redraft league) just to free up the roster spot. The guy that traded for him only had 2 running games (1 of which is LJ). He needed the 3rd running game to fill in on bye weeks. Traded a chump WR and a 3rd rounder for Barlow from another guy.
I'm commish a 12 team league and can tell you no the NYJ RB will go in the 1st 6 rounds. First off which NYJ RB do you take??? Its a crap shoot at this point so why waste a high pick. 2nd thing you have 32 teams / 12 = 2.7 so you have 5 teams without a 3rd RB. The reality is a NYJ RB will have 2-4 productive weeks all year, Is this your bye weeks when you need them most??? :goodposting: :goodposting: Why risk it?? I'd rather hand cuff some one.....
 
The Jets were the #3 rushing offense in 2004. In 2005 they were #31. That gives you an idea of how quickly things can turn in the NFL.

If Pennington is healthy, there's no way they finish at #31 again. They've upgraded the OL and they get an upgrade on offense just because they had such horrible health issues last year. The OL was decimated and they were playing with a third-string RB and a fourth-string QB.

They won't be #3 again, but I expect to see life in the offense.

 
I'm commish a 12 team league and can tell you no the NYJ RB will go in the 1st 6 rounds. First off which NYJ RB do you take??? Its a crap shoot at this point so why waste a high pick. 2nd thing you have 32 teams / 12 = 2.7 so you have 5 teams without a 3rd RB. The reality is a NYJ RB will have 2-4 productive weeks all year, Is this your bye weeks when you need them most??? Why risk it?? I'd rather hand cuff some one.....
Not really following your math. But if I could play devil's advocate for a second. Yes there are 32, but that does not mean there are 32 starting RBs. A bunch of teams either don't have their RB situation unsettled or they are going with a RBBC approach. Denver. Bell, Bell or Cobbs? Chicago. Benson or Jones? Indy. Rhodes or Addai?NO. Bush or McAllister?Dal. Jones or Barber?Ten. Brown, Henry or White?GB. Green, Gado or Davenport?Bal. Lewis, Anderson or Smith?So yeah, there are 32 teams but are there really 32 quality starting RBs. If a guy like Barlow is "the guy" and gets the lion's share of the carries he is more than worthy of a RB3 spot on a team. In 2003 when he was the man for the 49ers he put up 244-822-7 and 35-212-0 which is hardly anything to write home about yet that ranked him as RB#17. Good for a RB2 in your league.
 
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The reality is a NYJ RB will have 2-4 productive weeks all year, Is this your bye weeks when you need them most??? :goodposting: :goodposting: Why risk it?? I'd rather hand cuff some one.....
So you'd rather have a guy like Michael Turner, who more than likely will NOT play your bye week, than grab Barlow, who more than likely WILL be playing :loco:
 
I cant see Barlow not getting the majority of carries. I think he can be a 10-15 RB in this offense. I dont think any higher though. But I dont see any lower that 20. He's got talent. He's probably motivated. He's got his Pittsburgh hero Curtis Martin giving him tips from the sideline. The Jets O line is probably better than San Frans right?

 
Barlow is the best RB the Jets have by quite a bit, although that isn't saying much.

Houston is slooow and has no vision, no team is ever going to count on him being their starter unless it is due to desperation.

Blaylock is a classic role player.

Barring injury Barlow will get 240+ carries.

 
stlrams said:
Why would anyone seriously consider drafting a NYJ RB is beyond me..... The Jets will be one of the worst offenses this year and one of the worst teams. Even if Martin starts and plays all year whats the best case scenario 4 td and 800 yds.... Maybe as a 4th RB only....
I'd rather have a starting NFL RB as my #3 rather than a backup that might or might not play. :shrug:
 
Barlow is the best RB the Jets have by quite a bit, although that isn't saying much.Houston is slooow and has no vision, no team is ever going to count on him being their starter unless it is due to desperation.Blaylock is a classic role player.Barring injury Barlow will get 240+ carries.
Last year, I'd agree.... but Houston lost about 20 pounds, came into camp at about 218, and in terms of straight line speed, is as fast as Blaylock, but doesn't have the wiggle. He's a north-south RB for sure, but rarley goes down on first contact, the way Blaylock often does. I am figuring Barlow for 250 carries, and maybe 35 receptions. That is of course, if he stays healthy. Blaylock and Washington will get sprinkled in, for sure. Houston could be the odd man out, but only if Askew (FB) stays on the roster. If they cut Askew, who can fill in a more of a power runner, then I think they keep Houston, given Barlow's injury history.
 
The reality is a NYJ RB will have 2-4 productive weeks all year, Is this your bye weeks when you need them most??? :goodposting: :goodposting: Why risk it?? I'd rather hand cuff some one.....
So you'd rather have a guy like Michael Turner, who more than likely will NOT play your bye week, than grab Barlow, who more than likely WILL be playing :loco:
:goodposting: Handcuffing is stupid.
 
The reality is a NYJ RB will have 2-4 productive weeks all year, Is this your bye weeks when you need them most??? :goodposting: :goodposting: Why risk it?? I'd rather hand cuff some one.....
So you'd rather have a guy like Michael Turner, who more than likely will NOT play your bye week, than grab Barlow, who more than likely WILL be playing :loco:
:goodposting: Handcuffing is stupid.
handcuffing is stupid when starting RBs are still on the board, yes.
 
Interesting I came here to see if Barlow was gonna get the starting nod for the Jets and this thread was on top. I'm about to trade Jerry Porter and the 1st pick in the 3rd round rookie pick for him. I'll be getting a 3rd round rookie pick back at the end of the round.

I drafted Reggie Bush and I already have Ronnie and Chris (acquired with Steve McNair for Andre Johnson) Brown. That's about it for my RB situation as I got a lot of scrub backups.

 
Interesting I came here to see if Barlow was gonna get the starting nod for the Jets and this thread was on top. I'm about to trade Jerry Porter and the 1st pick in the 3rd round rookie pick for him. I'll be getting a 3rd round rookie pick back at the end of the round.I drafted Reggie Bush and I already have Ronnie and Chris (acquired with Steve McNair for Andre Johnson) Brown. That's about it for my RB situation as I got a lot of scrub backups.
thanks for the update. :thumbup:
 
Interesting I came here to see if Barlow was gonna get the starting nod for the Jets and this thread was on top. I'm about to trade Jerry Porter and the 1st pick in the 3rd round rookie pick for him. I'll be getting a 3rd round rookie pick back at the end of the round.I drafted Reggie Bush and I already have Ronnie and Chris (acquired with Steve McNair for Andre Johnson) Brown. That's about it for my RB situation as I got a lot of scrub backups.
thanks for the update. :thumbup:
No problem. I'll keep you informed.-Mort
 
The reality is a NYJ RB will have 2-4 productive weeks all year, Is this your bye weeks when you need them most??? :goodposting: :goodposting: Why risk it?? I'd rather hand cuff some one.....
So you'd rather have a guy like Michael Turner, who more than likely will NOT play your bye week, than grab Barlow, who more than likely WILL be playing :loco:
:goodposting: Handcuffing is stupid.
handcuffing is stupid when starting RBs are still on the board, yes.
If your passing on another backup who has more talent and has a better chance at starting, just so you can be a wuss and handcuff your precious first round pick, it's stupid.Handcuffing is for amateurs.
 
stlrams said:
Why would anyone seriously consider drafting a NYJ RB is beyond me..... The Jets will be one of the worst offenses this year and one of the worst teams. Even if Martin starts and plays all year whats the best case scenario 4 td and 800 yds.... Maybe as a 4th RB only....
Anyone in a league with more than 8 owners is going to draft these guys. We draft really early in my league. Had FA night the night of the first day of the NFL draft in April. I saw that after 3 rounds the Jets hadn't taken a RB. I called out Houston and signed him to my squad. No one countered my bid ($1 million out of a $32 million cap). I was pretty happy. Drafted Blaylock at the end of July. But once they traded for Barlow I sent both guys packing for a 4th rounder (the equivalent of a 23rd rounder in a redraft league) just to free up the roster spot. The guy that traded for him only had 2 running games (1 of which is LJ). He needed the 3rd running game to fill in on bye weeks. Traded a chump WR and a 3rd rounder for Barlow from another guy.
I'm commish a 12 team league and can tell you no the NYJ RB will go in the 1st 6 rounds. First off which NYJ RB do you take??? Its a crap shoot at this point so why waste a high pick. 2nd thing you have 32 teams / 12 = 2.7 so you have 5 teams without a 3rd RB. The reality is a NYJ RB will have 2-4 productive weeks all year, Is this your bye weeks when you need them most??? :goodposting: :goodposting: Why risk it?? I'd rather hand cuff some one.....
Well, duh. Where did I say that any of these would go high? I just countered the argument from the guy that said none of these guys should be drafted. Outside of an 8 owner league they will definitely get drafted. I commented that a guy in my league (dynasty league with a salary cap) just traded a 3rd, 4th and a crappy WR for Barlow, Houston and Blaylock. The 3rd and 4th are the equivalent to a 22nd and 23rd round pick in a redraft league since when we draft there are about 190 players divided up on 10 rosters before we even start the draft. So to say he didn't give up much is an understatement....
 
stlrams said:
Why would anyone seriously consider drafting a NYJ RB is beyond me..... The Jets will be one of the worst offenses this year and one of the worst teams. Even if Martin starts and plays all year whats the best case scenario 4 td and 800 yds.... Maybe as a 4th RB only....
Anyone in a league with more than 8 owners is going to draft these guys. We draft really early in my league. Had FA night the night of the first day of the NFL draft in April. I saw that after 3 rounds the Jets hadn't taken a RB. I called out Houston and signed him to my squad. No one countered my bid ($1 million out of a $32 million cap). I was pretty happy. Drafted Blaylock at the end of July. But once they traded for Barlow I sent both guys packing for a 4th rounder (the equivalent of a 23rd rounder in a redraft league) just to free up the roster spot. The guy that traded for him only had 2 running games (1 of which is LJ). He needed the 3rd running game to fill in on bye weeks. Traded a chump WR and a 3rd rounder for Barlow from another guy.
I'm commish a 12 team league and can tell you no the NYJ RB will go in the 1st 6 rounds. First off which NYJ RB do you take??? Its a crap shoot at this point so why waste a high pick. 2nd thing you have 32 teams / 12 = 2.7 so you have 5 teams without a 3rd RB. The reality is a NYJ RB will have 2-4 productive weeks all year, Is this your bye weeks when you need them most??? :goodposting: :goodposting: Why risk it?? I'd rather hand cuff some one.....
And who gives themselves a Good Posting Smilie?
 
I usually compete in a FF redraft league with my friends, but will take this season off. The draft was on Wed. night and I sat in out of curiosity.

Barlow was the first and only Jets back selected, and not until the last round (14).

Coles was the only other Jet taken, and he was selected by team #12 in round 6(1st selection).

No other Jets were taken.

 
Barlow, Houston, Blaylock, Washington, CMart....How do people see this shaking out?
I think Barlow will have 1 or 2 good games, followed by many 18 carries for 20 yard games. They'll give Washington a shot at the end of the year, but it will not be enough as the Jets select a RB in Round 1 next year. Martin will retire. Barlow may as well. Washington will be a special teams ace and possible 3rd downer. Who knows what will happen to Houston. I think that they picked the sluggish Barlow over him speaks volumes however.
 
The reality is a NYJ RB will have 2-4 productive weeks all year, Is this your bye weeks when you need them most??? :goodposting: :goodposting: Why risk it?? I'd rather hand cuff some one.....
So you'd rather have a guy like Michael Turner, who more than likely will NOT play your bye week, than grab Barlow, who more than likely WILL be playing :loco:
:goodposting: Handcuffing is stupid.
handcuffing is stupid when starting RBs are still on the board, yes.
:goodposting:
 
If a guy like Barlow is "the guy" and gets the lion's share of the carries he is more than worthy of a RB3 spot on a team. In 2003 when he was the man for the 49ers he put up 244-822-7 and 35-212-0 which is hardly anything to write home about yet that ranked him as RB#17. Good for a RB2 in your league.
That was his 2004 season for the 49ers, but still... :goodposting: His supporting cast this year is going to be much, MUCH better than it was on the 2004 49ers, and once he takes over the primary load - which he will soon enough - he's going to be a very viable RB3 or flex-type player with the potential for more. I expect his numbers to be better than his 2004 season, and likely by a pretty solid amount.If you can get him late, do it.
 
Barlow is a superb running back. A perfect blend of size, speed, hands, cockiness. The awful SF teams brought him way down. And too many fantasy footballers now hate him too much to see the true talent ths back possesses. Barlow will do great with this change of scenery. To go from SF to NY is a step up onto a bigger stage, and Barlow will perform well.

 
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As an aside to the thread hijack here

Right now, it looks like the Jets are going to stink and the starter might be worth 800-4, but the NFL is crazy, and every year stuff happens that nobody can forsee. So, at some point in your draft, Jets starting RB becomes a decent gamble.

 
As an aside to the thread hijack hereRight now, it looks like the Jets are going to stink and the starter might be worth 800-4, but the NFL is crazy, and every year stuff happens that nobody can forsee. So, at some point in your draft, Jets starting RB becomes a decent gamble.
I don't know if they will stink, but they certainly won't be good. Yes, the Giants shut them down last night, but the Giants also pitched a shutout against KC last week too... that's over 10 straight quarters that the Giants' D has gone without giving up a TD. ANY team in the NFL is going to struggle to score against the G-Men this year, if the defense stays healthy. Two pro bowl type DE's, a solid group of linebackers and a D coordinator who is aggresive and likes to blitz. Because of that pass rush, they move 10 guys up near the line, making it hard to run on them too. The Giants may have the best D in the NFL this year.
 
As an aside to the thread hijack hereRight now, it looks like the Jets are going to stink and the starter might be worth 800-4, but the NFL is crazy, and every year stuff happens that nobody can forsee. So, at some point in your draft, Jets starting RB becomes a decent gamble.
Take a second and think about how bad the OL, QB, and WRs were on the 2004 49ers. Also see that Barlow had a little over 1,000 total yards and 7 TDs on a team that bad.Now, compared to the 2004 49ers, consider how much better the Jets' offense should be this year. The Jets also have what appears to be a favorable schedule for running backs. I'm sorry, but if Barlow takes over as the feature back as he's expected to by most, he's got much more potential than 800-4.
 
Interesting I came here to see if Barlow was gonna get the starting nod for the Jets and this thread was on top. I'm about to trade Jerry Porter and the 1st pick in the 3rd round rookie pick for him. I'll be getting a 3rd round rookie pick back at the end of the round.I drafted Reggie Bush and I already have Ronnie and Chris (acquired with Steve McNair for Andre Johnson) Brown. That's about it for my RB situation as I got a lot of scrub backups.
thanks for the update. :thumbup:
No problem. I'll keep you informed.-Mort
Any new roster moves since your last post?
 
Interesting I came here to see if Barlow was gonna get the starting nod for the Jets and this thread was on top. I'm about to trade Jerry Porter and the 1st pick in the 3rd round rookie pick for him. I'll be getting a 3rd round rookie pick back at the end of the round.I drafted Reggie Bush and I already have Ronnie and Chris (acquired with Steve McNair for Andre Johnson) Brown. That's about it for my RB situation as I got a lot of scrub backups.
thanks for the update. :thumbup:
No problem. I'll keep you informed.-Mort
Any new roster moves since your last post?
Well, we drafted Michael Huff in the 3rd round. Also, we have come to contract terms with our second round pick Vernon Davis.More as it happens.-Mort
 
any updates here?
Nothing I've heard locally, although he has said some positive things about Blaylock. My sense is that he hasn't seen enough of Barlow yet and/or is waiting for one guy to step forward.
 
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Unless Barlow goes off in the last preseason game - I think it will be Blaylock the starter with some Barlow sprinkled in the first few games. If Blaylock does well he could stay the starter - if not Barlow will get a shot

Noth a great #3RB IMO. More of a #4 with upside

 
i'm thinking Barlow as my RB5. deep bench. but at least he'd be a starter.

most everyone else is picked clean. backups and rookies included.

 
i'm thinking Barlow as my RB5. deep bench. but at least he'd be a starter.most everyone else is picked clean. backups and rookies included.
19 Members: 3C's, Winston SmithI'm thinking Mr. Smiths presence is needed in the FFA. ;)
 
I've got Barlow as my fifth RB also.

Looks like Blaylock has the first crack at the starting joib, by virtue of his contract, work ethic, and versatility. However, Barlow is going to get his share of looks, so this whole situation comes down to what you believe about the talent of each of these players.

Those who believe that Barlow is a good back who was held down by a terrible SF team should pencil Barlow in for the starting job by week 4, and should project him at between 200-260 carries for the season. Those who think Barlow is nothing special should project him in the 120-180 carries range.

 

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