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TO late gets into heated discussion with Coach (1 Viewer)
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Chickenwang
Footballguy
I dont think getting into a heated discussion with the "passing game coordinator" is the same as with Parcells.
You sell more fluff than the media
You sell more fluff than the media
Yeah, you're a fluffer. 
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MLBrandow
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I'm really getting sick of the media riding TO. I'm starting to really sympathize with the guy.
They need to get off his back and just let him play football. I'd be pissed if my Quarterback sucked too and someone better was on the bench (Romo).
Once Parcells loses to the Texans at home, you'll see a QB switch and a happy TO.
They need to get off his back and just let him play football. I'd be pissed if my Quarterback sucked too and someone better was on the bench (Romo).
Once Parcells loses to the Texans at home, you'll see a QB switch and a happy TO.
perry147
Footballguy
TO would destroy a young QB.
Or make him as good as Moss made Culpepper look.
but if the guy can't get along with a QB that took him to the Superbowl how would he interact with an inexperianced QB? can he get along with anybody except maybe micheal irvin?
i didn't see anywhere in this thread where Parcells was mentioned. except by you.but i agree with whoever said they're starting to sympathize with TO. he's getting a bad rap... and i never thought that was possible...
i made a mistake by putting parcells in the title earlier...but quickly edited it.
hotdogcollars
Footballguy
as a iggles fan i would just like to say... 
Billy Ball Thorton
Footballguy
Mother Fluffer!
squidrope
Footballguy
I'm bettin Devious is an iggles fan tooas a iggles fan i would just like to say...
far from it...packers fan continually haunted by 4th and 26. but since i have nothing else this year i might as well fluff.I'm bettin Devious is an iggles fan tooas a iggles fan i would just like to say...
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
TO had perhaps the best QB in the game throwing him the ball and he put up almost his best numbers ever in 2004...didn't seem to be able to humble himself. now what has he got? Is he really making that much more? What would he actually give to win a Super Bowl?
my thoughts exactly... did anybody think he would find a happy home in Dallas? or anywhere for that matter?
Ice Cream Man
Footballguy
A team that hasn't suspended him from the season, and depriving him of his livelihood.
There's something to be said about Dallas weather.
What would McNabb give to win a Super Bowl? What would Marvin Harrison give? Is this some kind of trick question?
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Philly suspended him for no reason, right? He wasn't disrespectful to the team and creating chaos and making life unusually difficult for 10 people around him including coaches?Dallas weather blows. It snows there sometimes, 100 degrees in the summer, and humid...I live in Santa Monica...I'll take our weather anyday compared to the dust bowl you call Texas.McNabb is closer to a SB than TO is right now. And mcnabb can somewhat control his destination by leading his team down the field and scoring. TO obviously is at the mercy of an up n down QB. And Harrison/Manning are 5-0 last time I checked.
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Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
So you just defend jerks on principle then? Okay.
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
Wow... overreaction of the day. The Eagles don't let me play football for them either, but I still can earn a paycheck. Playing pro sports is a privilege, not a right.
A team that hesn't suspended him yet anyway ...
This_Is_Not_VRR
Footballguy
Hugh Douglas is no light weight and TO threw down with him...
PHILLYHAWK
Footballguy
Something is seriously wrong with T.O.
He has the maturity of a 6 year old little girl who is crying her eyes out because she got the red balloon instead of the pink one.
Last year people, including myself, questioned Don McNabb's sensitivity towards T.O
I don't question it now...
This guy is an incredible athlete with a 2c head...
and a cancer to any team he plays for.
He has the maturity of a 6 year old little girl who is crying her eyes out because she got the red balloon instead of the pink one.
Last year people, including myself, questioned Don McNabb's sensitivity towards T.O
I don't question it now...
This guy is an incredible athlete with a 2c head...
and a cancer to any team he plays for.
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faulkfan
Footballguy
Lets start with the media.
There is absolutely NO question that they have legions of reporters who get paid to hype every minor controversy involving a controversial player. In fact, truth be told it is the media who creates the controversial players and people. The article that was circulating earlier posted by Joe B showed just how unscrupulous these leeches are as they did all they could to goad TO into a slip up that they could blow out of proportion.
That being said, it is also worth noting that TO has done nothing on his own to disprove his label as a team cancer. He did attack his QB in Philly. He did attack the organization in Philly. He did attack his OC in Philly. He did attack his QB in SF. He did attack his head coach in SF. He did violate team rules about conduct that lead to his suspension.
He did react in a questionable manner on the sidelines when he didn't get the passes he wanted and the outcome was not to his satisfaction. In this case I see it as merely being a competitive individual who wanted to win and was upset with the way things were playing out and nothing more. However, he made no attempt to support his QB and rather made insinuations that Bledsoe was the problem in my understanding. He also has made public comments today about not speaking to his WR coach and not trusting him because he percieves him to be untrustworthy. I'm not questioning him feeling this way, but when one person continually finds himself in the middle of situations such as this, it may be time to look in the mirror for the source of the problem.
He has never taken responsibility for his role in any difficult situation that I am aware of. I think the media is to blame for some of it without question, but it is simplistic and naive to say that he is a completely innocent victim of how he is portrayed in the media.
There is absolutely NO question that they have legions of reporters who get paid to hype every minor controversy involving a controversial player. In fact, truth be told it is the media who creates the controversial players and people. The article that was circulating earlier posted by Joe B showed just how unscrupulous these leeches are as they did all they could to goad TO into a slip up that they could blow out of proportion.
That being said, it is also worth noting that TO has done nothing on his own to disprove his label as a team cancer. He did attack his QB in Philly. He did attack the organization in Philly. He did attack his OC in Philly. He did attack his QB in SF. He did attack his head coach in SF. He did violate team rules about conduct that lead to his suspension.
He did react in a questionable manner on the sidelines when he didn't get the passes he wanted and the outcome was not to his satisfaction. In this case I see it as merely being a competitive individual who wanted to win and was upset with the way things were playing out and nothing more. However, he made no attempt to support his QB and rather made insinuations that Bledsoe was the problem in my understanding. He also has made public comments today about not speaking to his WR coach and not trusting him because he percieves him to be untrustworthy. I'm not questioning him feeling this way, but when one person continually finds himself in the middle of situations such as this, it may be time to look in the mirror for the source of the problem.
He has never taken responsibility for his role in any difficult situation that I am aware of. I think the media is to blame for some of it without question, but it is simplistic and naive to say that he is a completely innocent victim of how he is portrayed in the media.
Footballhead
WWPRD?
TO = North Korea of Football.
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
Is the fact that the media is pouncing on everything he does news to him? I doubt it. So why does he continue to feed them with crap like "I don't trust my positions coach"? If he doesn't spout stupidity like that, they have nothing to report. Painting Owens as the victim in this story is more than a little ridiculous.
...... and in other breaking news.... the sun came up and the sky is blue.
Seriously, why is this news? I mean why isn't it front page news every day that Peyton Manning showed up today and worked hard, cooperated with his teammates, respected his coaches and did the right things?
It tells you a lot about the media in this country that everyday you wake up the news is negative negative negative even if it is the same thing that happens every day for years. Every day for the past 4 years TO has acted like an idiot and every day it is front page news. Every day for the past 4 years Curtis Martin has been a class act and it doesn't even make the paper.
Oh well.
Seriously, why is this news? I mean why isn't it front page news every day that Peyton Manning showed up today and worked hard, cooperated with his teammates, respected his coaches and did the right things?
It tells you a lot about the media in this country that everyday you wake up the news is negative negative negative even if it is the same thing that happens every day for years. Every day for the past 4 years TO has acted like an idiot and every day it is front page news. Every day for the past 4 years Curtis Martin has been a class act and it doesn't even make the paper.
Oh well.
Despyzer
Lousy Attention Whore
You forgot placing his ### and scrotum on a female trainer's face.
redman
Footballguy
That was something like two years after he last played. I've always figured that Hugh was getting pudgy by the time that happened.
redman
Footballguy
For those of you questioning whether this is newsworthy, any player that has a public falling out with his coach is going to get news coverage. It's happened with Jeff George, and it's happened with others including those KC Chiefs that mutinied on Marty in his last season there. I seem to recall LJ having problems with Vermeil that got a lot of attention.
Moreover, what TO was doing on the sidelines would get attention were it any other player. In the second half, when his team was still in the game but when he hadn't gotten the passes he wanted, he was sitting away from his teammates sulking. Then, later on, he's storming around screaming at people/himself/the world.
Need I remind you that Cedric Benson was ripped to shreds by the media for leaving early from a preseason game, and that wasn't even caught on camera? Benson, too, has been caught pouting on the sidelines when he hasn't been playing, again resulting in criticism.
And of course you have the infamous Randy Moss walk-off from the sideline in week 17 of the 2004 season before the game was even finished. It wasn't anything as dramatic on camera as TO storming around or pouting - just a guy walking to the locker room - but that resulted in a storm of criticism.
For those of you trying to defend TO against the evil media, save it. They'll crucify anyone they can, and it's not unique to TO. Besides, are you actually trying to say that TO, through his actions on that sideline, was trying to avoid attention?
Moreover, what TO was doing on the sidelines would get attention were it any other player. In the second half, when his team was still in the game but when he hadn't gotten the passes he wanted, he was sitting away from his teammates sulking. Then, later on, he's storming around screaming at people/himself/the world.
Need I remind you that Cedric Benson was ripped to shreds by the media for leaving early from a preseason game, and that wasn't even caught on camera? Benson, too, has been caught pouting on the sidelines when he hasn't been playing, again resulting in criticism.
And of course you have the infamous Randy Moss walk-off from the sideline in week 17 of the 2004 season before the game was even finished. It wasn't anything as dramatic on camera as TO storming around or pouting - just a guy walking to the locker room - but that resulted in a storm of criticism.
For those of you trying to defend TO against the evil media, save it. They'll crucify anyone they can, and it's not unique to TO. Besides, are you actually trying to say that TO, through his actions on that sideline, was trying to avoid attention?
passing game cooridinator in Dallas=WR coach elsewhere
Coach is angry he's late, Owens doesn't like getting in trouble...all seems like it happenned as we'd expect. I don't recall reading Owens being late and missing practices and such during his career so...so what the guy was late, it happens sometimes.
Coach is angry he's late, Owens doesn't like getting in trouble...all seems like it happenned as we'd expect. I don't recall reading Owens being late and missing practices and such during his career so...so what the guy was late, it happens sometimes.
Big Score
Footballguy
FYI Bri.TO has already been late for a few practices & missed or was late for a rehab or two with his hammy problems earlier this year in Big D.Even a fluff piece a couple of weeks back with Deion interviewing him on NFL Network and asking why TO was late for practice. TO said something about the alarm clock going out during the night or something. Then Deion asked why none of his teamates called him to wake him up. TO said someone did, but it was too late.
Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
Let me get this straight... T.O. is late for practice, probably disrupting the schedule and rotations for everyone in his unit, his position coach calls him out on it resulting in a shouting match, and T.O thinks his trust has been violated? How about the trust of the coaches, players and team who trust he will show up to practice on time? Then HE TALKS TO THE MEDIA about it saying he's no longer on speaking terms with his coach about anything other than foodball including "no more friendly nothing" (At this point Brad Childress spits coffee all over his computer screen laughing hysterically). I don't care if the media asked him about it or baited him. If he's stupid enough to say that to a reporter, he deserves no sympathy.This stuff is just too good.
Nemesis Enforcer
Footballguy
lol at this being a news story. How many guys in the nfl over the course of a season are late to a meeting or disagree with a position coach? TO does it and its magically news. What is ESPN and the media going to do when TO retires? What will they fill their shows with? I am so tired of having everything and anything TO being thrown in my face every time I try to watch sports. I am done with it, lets move on, I'd love to hear about some other players and teams in the NFL other than the Mannings and TO. I am already not looking forward to ESPN coverage tomorrow because this will somehow dominate their time and only give more airtime to Michael Irvin and his opinions on TO. 
Chickenwang
Footballguy
I just want Owens to drop a few 150yd 2TD games... that should shutup the media circle
Phurfur
Footballguy
TO isn't that good. He is on the downside of his career, expect to see flashes of brilliance but no cosistancy.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
John Clayton, on ESPN Radio yesterday, said that Jerry Jones would side with OWENS in a "it's him or me" scenario, rather than the Tuna. 
The Football Freak
Footballguy
Really? Wow! TO isn't even the best receiver on that team right now, that is just crazy.John Clayton, on ESPN Radio yesterday, said that Jerry Jones would side with OWENS in a "it's him or me" scenario, rather than the Tuna.
Wheelhouse
Footballguy
OMG, if that were to happen, all hell would break loose.John Clayton, on ESPN Radio yesterday, said that Jerry Jones would side with OWENS in a "it's him or me" scenario, rather than the Tuna.
Tau837
Footballguy
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
Most of this melodrama disgusts me as a Cowboy fan who protested TO from day one, but if Jones chose TO over Parcells, now THAT would be crazy, and I would finally wise up and find a new team.OMG, if that were to happen, all hell would break loose.John Clayton, on ESPN Radio yesterday, said that Jerry Jones would side with OWENS in a "it's him or me" scenario, rather than the Tuna.
Wheelhouse
Footballguy
What if Parcells were to quit not be fired, but quit? I'm sure if he was fired, Dallas would play it off like he quit anyway. What a mess.Most of this melodrama disgusts me as a Cowboy fan who protested TO from day one, but if Jones chose TO over Parcells, now THAT would be crazy, and I would finally wise up and find a new team.OMG, if that were to happen, all hell would break loose.John Clayton, on ESPN Radio yesterday, said that Jerry Jones would side with OWENS in a "it's him or me" scenario, rather than the Tuna.
gman8343
What would Lemmy do?
How many times does a WR cut off any contact with the WR coach??From CBS:News: Terrell Owens said on his radio show Friday that his relationship with Dallas Cowboys receivers coach Todd Haley was ruined by a blowup this week. It began when Owens missed the start of Wednesday's practice because of an upset stomach, and Haley berated him for being late. Owens held his tongue then, but they later argued during a meeting. From now on, T.O. said, "there will be nothing else, no other dialogue" between him and Haley.lol at this being a news story. How many guys in the nfl over the course of a season are late to a meeting or disagree with a position coach? TO does it and its magically news. What is ESPN and the media going to do when TO retires? What will they fill their shows with? I am so tired of having everything and anything TO being thrown in my face every time I try to watch sports. I am done with it, lets move on, I'd love to hear about some other players and teams in the NFL other than the Mannings and TO. I am already not looking forward to ESPN coverage tomorrow because this will somehow dominate their time and only give more airtime to Michael Irvin and his opinions on TO.
