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Dynasty Young Backup LBs (1 Viewer)

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Here's a list of LBs taken in the past couple of years of the draft who aren't starters. I haven't included some obvious guys who already get talked about a lot like Ruud, Crowder, Greenway, and McIntosh.

What I'd like to do is start to get these guys sorted out a bit... which have 3-down skillset? Which have a good path to the starting job in a year? Which are going to be stuck at SLB or 3-4 OLB? Which have lost the confidence of the coaches? I have a couple of these guys in every league, but in each case some of the others on the list are available on waivers; there are probably three guys at least from this list available in every league. I'd like to figure out if I should trade in, say, Tulloch for Keiaho.

Stephen Tulloch, Tennessee. It seems like Sirmon is gone after this year, so Tulloch could be the MLB, but it would likely be as a 2-down guy. Do they like him?

Freddie Keiaho, Indianapolis. Cato June is probably gone, so Keiaho could be the Tampa-2 WLB. 3 downs?

James Anderson, Carolina. Morgan could be done for good, they don't really have a long-term MLB solution. 3-down? What competition is there?

Clint Ingram, Jacksonville. It's hard to say what happens there next year. Could he fall into the WLB spot? He's athletic, but is he a 3-dower?

AJ Nicholson, Cincinnati. Good talent, hasn't been in jail lately. Nobody has any idea what happens there next season... where would he fit in a 4-3 or 3-4? Is there a spot for him even if Thurman's done?

Abdul Hodge, Green Bay. Seems like a 2-down guy, and they've got three young good starters already. I don't see where he fits.

Bobby Carpenter, Dallas. Their ILBs are mediocre, but the scheme doesn't seem to feature them. Would he be an ILB or an OLB?

Gerris Wilkinson, Giants. Will he fit in as their WLB? 3-down?

Jordan Beck, Atlanta. I was excited about this guy, but he was injured last season and now there's no news. Is he dead? Any chance of being their MLB after they give up on Hartwell?

Alfred Fincher, New Orleans. Was he so bad in preseason that they're done with him?

Lance Mitchell, Arizona. This one surprises me, but he's worthless now, right?

Adam Seward, Carolina. Was he so bad in his one chance that they're done with him?

Robert McCune, Washington. Hyped a bit last preseason, but he's been buried so far. Any chance he makes it to be a starter after Marshall's done?

Boomer Grigsby, Kansas City. I know nothing.

Matt McCoy, Philadelphia. I'm not sure what's up with this guy - I had high hopes coming into the season, but he hasn't done much, he's not in the nickle, and I'm not sure what kind of PT he's getting. Is this short-term or is this the most we can hope for?

Daryl Blackstock, Arizona. I'm not up on him, but haven't heard anything this year - any chance he becomes a starter soon?

(not last two years)

Dontarrious Thomas, Minnesota. When I've seen him play, he draws the eye. With EJ and Harris coming on and Greenway likely stepping in next year, it's tough to see where he fits, but I think he could be something.

Stephen Cooper, San Diego. Which ILB would he be if he steps in next year? Is it their scheme that favors the other side, or is it just Edwards?

 
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Tick said:
Here's a list of LBs taken in the past couple of years of the draft who aren't starters. I haven't included some obvious guys who already get talked about a lot like Ruud, Crowder, Greenway, and McIntosh.What I'd like to do is start to get these guys sorted out a bit... which have 3-down skillset? Which have a good path to the starting job in a year? Which are going to be stuck at SLB or 3-4 OLB? Which have lost the confidence of the coaches? I have a couple of these guys in every league, but in each case some of the others on the list are available on waivers; there are probably three guys at least from this list available in every league. I'd like to figure out if I should trade in, say, Tulloch for Keiaho.Stephen Tulloch, Tennessee. It seems like Sirmon is gone after this year, so Tulloch could be the MLB, but it would likely be as a 2-down guy. Do they like him?Freddie Keiaho, Indianapolis. Cato June is probably gone, so Keiaho could be the Tampa-2 WLB. 3 downs?James Anderson, Carolina. Morgan could be done for good, they don't really have a long-term MLB solution. 3-down? What competition is there?Clint Ingram, Jacksonville. It's hard to say what happens there next year. Could he fall into the WLB spot? He's athletic, but is he a 3-dower?AJ Nicholson, Cincinnati. Good talent, hasn't been in jail lately. Nobody has any idea what happens there next season... where would he fit in a 4-3 or 3-4? Is there a spot for him even if Thurman's done?Abdul Hodge, Green Bay. Seems like a 2-down guy, and they've got three young good starters already. I don't see where he fits.Bobby Carpenter, Dallas. Their ILBs are mediocre, but the scheme doesn't seem to feature them. Would he be an ILB or an OLB?Gerris Wilkinson, Giants. Will he fit in as their WLB? 3-down?Jordan Beck, Atlanta. I was excited about this guy, but he was injured last season and now there's no news. Is he dead? Any chance of being their MLB after they give up on Hartwell?Alfred Fincher, New Orleans. Was he so bad in preseason that they're done with him?Lance Mitchell, Arizona. This one surprises me, but he's worthless now, right?Adam Seward, Carolina. Was he so bad in his one chance that they're done with him?Robert McCune, Washington. Hyped a bit last preseason, but he's been buried so far. Any chance he makes it to be a starter after Marshall's done?Boomer Grigsby, Kansas City. I know nothing.Matt McCoy, Philadelphia. I'm not sure what's up with this guy - I had high hopes coming into the season, but he hasn't done much, he's not in the nickle, and I'm not sure what kind of PT he's getting. Is this short-term or is this the most we can hope for?Daryl Blackstock, Arizona. I'm not up on him, but haven't heard anything this year - any chance he becomes a starter soon?(not last two years)Dontarrious Thomas, Minnesota. When I've seen him play, he draws the eye. With EJ and Harris coming on and Greenway likely stepping in next year, it's tough to see where he fits, but I think he could be something.Stephen Cooper, San Diego. Which ILB would he be if he steps in next year? Is it their scheme that favors the other side, or is it just Edwards?
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How about DB's?
 
I'd add Rocky McIntosh to your list. not playing now, but interesting.

I drafted Gilbert Gardner a few years back thinking he might be the WLB in Indy, but I'm inclined to thinking he will not be the guy there. Why do you think they won't re-sign June?

Guys who don't go to jail in Cincy and can play look like a good idea to me - if Lewis ever gets his head on straight.

 
Josh Stamer in Buffalo (not sure what he's done so far)

Omar Gaither in Philly (has certainly shown flashes)

Wimbley in Cleveland (looks good)

 
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Omar Gaither in Philly (has certainly shown flashes)
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:goodposting: This is a great topic, and I have a ton to add, but no time to do it - this is one place where the dynasty rankings fall short, because 60 is not deep enough to include the LBs who have a good shot of long term value, but are only worth carrying as projects right now.We should start a thread for each position - as I have time I'll chime in.
 
There's some overlap for me in the guys in the first and second categories. I'd roster some on the second list ahead of a couple on the first for obvious reasons, but I think the guys on the first list have the higher ceilings right now.

In no particular order...

Guys on my short list:

Stephen Cooper -- Contract, skill set, playing time all suggest he could be the favorite to play LILB next season. He'll have some competition from Tim Dobbins (and Matt Wilhelm), but I agree with Sig, I think he comes out on top.

Ahmad Brooks -- Plenty of questions here (where does he fit next season if the Bengals move to a 3-4 and/or Thurman returns, can he stay away from off-the-field issues) but his upside may be higher than anyone on the list.

Omar Gaither -- Already getting playing time in nickel defenses ahead of McCoy (when Barber and Dawkins were injured) and Trotter is getting older and slowing a bit against the run (see last week vs Jags). Gaither is the heir apparent in a very productive spot.

Freddie Keiaho -- Tyjuan Hagler (listed below) has been getting snaps at WLB, too, but Keiaho fits the mold of the prototypical Tampa-2 WLB and will probably compete there if June leaves in FA. Gilbert Gardner isn't signed either, so there's some risk that Keiaho could land at LOLB in a left/right alignment. But a potential T2 WLB warrants attention.

Jamar Williams -- see Keiaho, Freddy. Possibly inherits Lance Briggs' WLB spot if the Bears choose not to re-sign Lance Briggs.

James Anderson -- Anderson almost certainly wins a starting role in Carolina next year. After filling in for Thomas Davis two weeks ago at SLB and playing well against the run and in coverage, he's moved ahead of Adam Seward most likely as the best young prospect on the Carolina roster. And, just speculation here, but if the coaches liked him well enough to fill in at SLB he might just get a shot at the MLB role next season.

Rocky McIntosh -- As redman has posted elsewhere, it's not too surprising that McIntosh hasn't broken into the lineup yet given how the Skins bring rookies along, especially after arthroscopic surgery robbed him of some camp time. But he'll get his shot soon.

Barrett Ruud -- Not much needs to be said here. But his owners might finally be ripe for the taking after he went back to a reserve role again mid-season.

Others worth keeping an eye on:

Gerris Wilkinson -- Giants WLB position has produced well in the boxscore.

Tyjuan Hagler -- Has a shot at the ROLB position in Indy if things break right.

Bobby Carpenter -- One of these days, a Cowboy ILB is going to produce as Pepper Johnson/Marvin Jones did in a similar role. Not looking great for Carpenter but he should be watched closely, as Chaos noted earlier in the season.

Tim Dobbins -- Could work his way into the LILB role in SD ahead of Cooper and Wilhelm.

Jordan Beck -- Hartwell isn't a long term answer, Boley is becoming entrenched on the strong side, and the coaches have always liked Beck. If he gets a chance, he could be the Falcons MLB of the future.

Abdul Hodge -- Big, fast MLB who can stuff the run should be on your radar at all times. Still blocked by Nick Barnett, but it took guys like Shelton Quarles, Gary Brackett, Antonio Pierce, etc a year or so to work into the mix. Although it looks like Hawk will have a bigger impact in this scheme than I thought he would, the MLB is still worth a long look.

Stephen Tulloch -- Bulluck isn't getting any younger and the scheme may change next year if Jeff Fisher leaves as some project. The Titans SS role was a forgotten wasteland until they imported a player with some skill (Chris Hope). The Titans MLB has been a similar wasteland -- maybe Tulloch is the talent to bring fantasy production back to that spot.

Guys mentioned whose time has passed:

Lance Mitchell -- :X

Alfred Fincher -- :X :X :X

Adam Seward -- Failed miserably in his debut at MLB. Completely lost in coverage and weak in run support. Could make a comeback in 2007, but probably well behind Anderson now. May not be a fantasy factor as a starting MLB with Anderson and Davis alongside him making most of the plays and the probable nickel defenders.

:popcorn: for Sig and others.

 
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One guy that has to be added to this list, especially in sack heavy leagues, is James Harrison, OLB, PIT. Porter is as good as gone in 08, and Harrison played at the same level as Porter and Haggans when he got in last year.

 
Great thread.

Regarding McIntosh, he certainly belongs in this discussion, however I must confess that we're now past the point in the season where I thought he'd get into the lineup. No, I'm not panicking, but it's not like Warrick Holdman is a world-beater either; indeed, Holdman is probably one of the worst Will's in the league. Rocky's active every week and seems to end up with 1-2 special teams tackles per game, but I don't understand why they haven't yet started him at WLB.

McCune seems very limited. I don't think he's any good in pass coverage, which isn't so bad as a MLB if he's in the game on 1st and 2nd downs, but I'm also not sure if he's athletic enough to play LB in the NFL. At this point he's probably not worth a roster spot in your dynasty league. I do think, however, that both the WLB and the MLB spot could see different starters next year given that Marshall has been far from impressive at MLB too.

Edit to add: Khary Campbell and not McCune filled in for Marshall a couple of weeks ago when he missed a game, and is listed as 2nd on the depth chart behind Marshall. At this point McCune is almost exclusively a special teamer.

 
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What about Rian Wallace?
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I drafted him and held him until August this year, when I dumped him. He's about 3rd in line on that team to replace Farrior or Foote in the middle if they go down, and the coaching staff seems cool to his development. Farrior and Foote are also signed to contracts beyond this season, and they never seem to come out of the lineup. I would certainly defer to a Steelers fan on this one, but I did a lot of homework as I was loathe to let him go if I could avoid it, but I needed someone who would actually play on my team, so I cut him.
 
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redman said:
ConstruxBoy said:
What about Rian Wallace?
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I drafted him and held him until August this year, when I dumped him. He's about 3rd in line on that team to replace Farrior or Foote in the middle if they go down, and the coaching staff seems cool to his development. Farrior and Foote are also signed to contracts beyond this season, and they never seem to come out of the lineup. I would certainly defer to a Steelers fan on this one, but I did a lot of homework as I was loathe to let him go if I could avoid it, but I needed someone who would actually play on my team, so I cut him.
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Thanks. I feel your pain. I agonized between him and Keiaho at the cut to 53 and stuck with Wallace. Poor move I think. :(
 
ConstruxBoy said:
redman said:
ConstruxBoy said:
What about Rian Wallace?
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I drafted him and held him until August this year, when I dumped him. He's about 3rd in line on that team to replace Farrior or Foote in the middle if they go down, and the coaching staff seems cool to his development. Farrior and Foote are also signed to contracts beyond this season, and they never seem to come out of the lineup. I would certainly defer to a Steelers fan on this one, but I did a lot of homework as I was loathe to let him go if I could avoid it, but I needed someone who would actually play on my team, so I cut him.
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Thanks. I feel your pain. I agonized between him and Keiaho at the cut to 53 and stuck with Wallace. Poor move I think. :(
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:lmao: It came down to those two for me too, and I chose Keiaho for my practice squad.
 
redman said:
ConstruxBoy said:
redman said:
ConstruxBoy said:
What about Rian Wallace?
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I drafted him and held him until August this year, when I dumped him. He's about 3rd in line on that team to replace Farrior or Foote in the middle if they go down, and the coaching staff seems cool to his development. Farrior and Foote are also signed to contracts beyond this season, and they never seem to come out of the lineup. I would certainly defer to a Steelers fan on this one, but I did a lot of homework as I was loathe to let him go if I could avoid it, but I needed someone who would actually play on my team, so I cut him.
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Thanks. I feel your pain. I agonized between him and Keiaho at the cut to 53 and stuck with Wallace. Poor move I think. :(
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:lmao: It came down to those two for me too, and I chose Keiaho for my practice squad.
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Why didn't you tell me and spare me the pain! :D
 
ConstruxBoy said:
redman said:
ConstruxBoy said:
redman said:
ConstruxBoy said:
What about Rian Wallace?
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I drafted him and held him until August this year, when I dumped him. He's about 3rd in line on that team to replace Farrior or Foote in the middle if they go down, and the coaching staff seems cool to his development. Farrior and Foote are also signed to contracts beyond this season, and they never seem to come out of the lineup. I would certainly defer to a Steelers fan on this one, but I did a lot of homework as I was loathe to let him go if I could avoid it, but I needed someone who would actually play on my team, so I cut him.
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Thanks. I feel your pain. I agonized between him and Keiaho at the cut to 53 and stuck with Wallace. Poor move I think. :(
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:lmao: It came down to those two for me too, and I chose Keiaho for my practice squad.
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Why didn't you tell me and spare me the pain! :D
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:D The more I'm playing IDP's (I'm in my 3rd season) the more I'm realizing that your "studs" that you identify and draft with your 7th round pick just knowing that they'll be Hall of Famers some day even though they're riding the pine are probably going to sit on that waiver wire for weeks on end if you cut them.

Wallace is a classic example of a guy who, if you follow him, can sit for weeks on end on the waiver wire with a better than average chance for you that, if something changed you'd probably still be able to snag him back before anyone else if you continued to monitor him. For example, I just picked up James Anderson last week off of waivers, which is absolute larceny if Jene's right about him becoming the starting MLB next year in Carolina. But that's not atypical.

Many of my best IDP's were waiver wire pickups: Cato June; Rashean Mathis; Mike Patterson; Antonio Pierce; Robert Geathers, etc. I think too often we fall in love with our draft day genius and fail to recognize that we're really just trying to read tea leaves.

 
There are a couple available in my leagues, but only 2 of them available in my most competitive 53 man roster IDP dynasty league.

 
Jordan Beck ( a poor mans Zach Thomas)

A few inches taller, has similar style. I thought he played well in the pre-season, all things considered. I'm really high on this guy. Hopefully will get a shot to start next year.

Alfred Fincher

He doesn't look ready, may never be. Looks like a guy having to think, instead a just playin the game. The jump from UConn to NFL may be too much. I have him on my development squad (along with Beck), I plan on giving him another year to see if the light comes on.

Really can't comment much on others as I only follow guys on my dynasty team.

Nice thread Tick! :thumbup:

 
Here's one to monitor.

Parys Haralson, OLB, SF.

With the switch from the 3-4 to the 4-3, he will likely be lining up at DE rather than rush backer in the 3-4 this year.

However, with Lawson filling the Haley/Elephant role, there is a chance he plays more of a traditional 4-3 OLB next year, but may be listed on MFL and other sites as a DE.

So you might get LB pts for a guy at your DL spot. :D

 
Having Peterson and Arrington sitting on my IR squad and Thurman wasting away on my active roster, I have room for young LBs so I picked up Keiaho and Jamar Williams last night. Wanted Ingram instead of Williams, but someone beat me to him. So now I have those 2, Thurman, Beck, Wallace and Gaither. Should be fun figuring out who to keep next year. :D

 
Would you drop landon johnson for any of these guys:

Stephen Cooper SDC LB

Omar Gaither PHI LB

James Anderson CAR LB

Jordan Beck ATL LB

Clint Ingram JAC LB

Parys Haralson, OLB, SF (May be a hybrid DE/LB)

Already picking up Jamar Williams CHI LB (can put him on IR so he doesnt count as a roster spot) and Freddie Keiaho IND LB.

 
For those high on J. Beck as the heir to Hartwell at MLB...

Why is it that when Hartwell can't play, Brookings moves over and (I assume, according to the FBG charts) D. Williams comes in as WLB. If the Falcons feel that's their best set given the circumstances, why wouldn't they just stick with that if Hartwell were gone?

I've had Beck on occasion in a dynasty league and ended up releasing him, most recently, over things like this. Yes, he was hurt earlier in the year and missed all of last, but why won't they play him now? Is he still fighting the injury?

 
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For those high on J. Beck as the heir to Hartwell at MLB...Why is it that when Hartwell can't play, Brookings moves over and (I assume, according to the FBG charts) D. Williams comes in as WLB. If the Falcons feel that's their best set given the circumstances, why wouldn't they just stick with that if Hartwell were gone?I've had Beck on occasion in a dynasty league and ended up releasing him, most recently, over things like this. Yes, he was hurt earlier in the year and missed all of last, but why won't they play him now? Is he still fighting the injury?
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I think Beck is healthy and playing on special teams.I assume they feel Beck isn't ready yet and this gets them, at present, their three best LB's on the field. If it wasn't for the versatlity of Brookings, Beck may have seen some action. But ... this is nothing more than speculation, with no source to backup any of it.
 
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For those high on J. Beck as the heir to Hartwell at MLB...Why is it that when Hartwell can't play, Brookings moves over and (I assume, according to the FBG charts) D. Williams comes in as WLB. If the Falcons feel that's their best set given the circumstances, why wouldn't they just stick with that if Hartwell were gone?I've had Beck on occasion in a dynasty league and ended up releasing him, most recently, over things like this. Yes, he was hurt earlier in the year and missed all of last, but why won't they play him now? Is he still fighting the injury?
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These are all good points. Beck and Boley were drafted the same year. Beck initially garnered most of the praise but the foot injury really set him back. Boley moved into the lineup last year and has been so impressive that he's not going anywhere. I agree with your assessment, something unexpected would have to happen for Beck to get meaningful PT in Atlanta. He's worth keeping on the radar given his talent, but he's certainly not a must roster except in the deepest of leagues.
 
"James Anderson, Carolina. Morgan could be done for good, they don't really have a long-term MLB solution. 3-down? What competition is there?"

I would say this guy would be the prospect to hide away.....Opportunity + Talent is what its all about. With Diggs, Morgan and Draft how could you not find room for this guy in '07.

However im no expert so, I suppose, move along

 
About the only guys I can add to this list may not qualify as recent draftees:

1) Hillenmeyer may also be a Briggs replacement. Ayanbadejo is also there.

2) Both the inside guys for SFO are aging - Ulbrich and Smith - I keep waiting for Brandon Moore to move there like he did when filling in for injuries last year. This could be the new home for Briggs.

Otherwise, I commend this group for touching on virtually every prospect on my list.

If I were ranking guys who are boarderline available - I'd put Tulloch number 1.

I agree with jene that Mitchell, Seward, and Fincher won't make the list. Carpenter and Schlegel won't make my list either.

 
After having a real weak spot there, I've stocked up on young LBers the last couple of drafts and have a few of them on this list hoping they'll get the job. In the last couple of drafts I've taken Crowder, Seward, Ingram, Alston, and picked up Brooks in free agency after the supplemental draft. Crowder has done well for me at times but could do better and have been happy to see Ingram and Brooks get playing time recently with some of my veterens ailing (Quarles, Spikes, Dansby). I thought Seward had gotten his big break when he got the start after Morgan's concussion but it looks like he blew that chance and I'm not really sold on his prospects from here on out. I have extra roster spots and he has a cheap cap number as he was a late pick, but I will have to see what happens next summer before next season's roster deadlines.

 
I too have Crowder and like what he's done to date. I don't think he's going to reach his fantasy potential, however, until Thomas retires. ZT is just plain flat too active in the middle for Crowder to get much action in the meantime.

 
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I too have Crowder and like what he's done to date. I don't think he's going to reach his fantasy potential, however, until Thomas retires. ZT is just plain flat too active in the middle for Crowder to get much action in the meantime.
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Might have been last year, but he filled in for Zach in the middle and didn't exactly wow anyone with his numbers. He is still young though and should only improve with time.
 
what about DJ WILLIAMS strong side lb in denver. he was a stud his rookie season at MLB befroe he was moved to the strong side. al wilson and ian gold are not getting younger. it seems like they have been there forever,what is the status of their contracts? i believe williams is in his 3rd year of his rookie contract? when is his contract up? could he leave denver for a primo MLB spot somewhere else? do you think williams could be moved back to the middle at some point in denver? or is he stuck at SLB in denver for the foreseable future.

 
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what about DJ WILLIAMS strong side lb in denver. he was a stud his rookie season at MLB befroe he was moved to the strong side. al wilson and ian gold are not getting younger. it seems like they have been there forever,what is the status of their contracts? i believe williams is in his 3rd year of his rookie contract? when is his contract up? could he leave denver for a primo MLB spot somewhere else? do you think williams could be moved back to the middle at some point in denver? or is he stuck at SLB in denver for the foreseable future.
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Looks stuck.Both Wilson and Gold are signed through 2010 at fairly reasonable salaries given the expected cap increase following next season. Williams signed a six year contract and is locked up through 2009. I've still got DJ rostered in most of my dynasty leagues (see my sig for details); IMO he's one of the best linebackers in the league -- a do-everything well skill set. I'm sure I'm probably still googly-eyed over his performance on the weak side over the last 6 games of 2004.

 
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odon said:
what about DJ WILLIAMS strong side lb in denver. he was a stud his rookie season at MLB befroe he was moved to the strong side. al wilson and ian gold are not getting younger. it seems like they have been there forever,what is the status of their contracts? i believe williams is in his 3rd year of his rookie contract? when is his contract up? could he leave denver for a primo MLB spot somewhere else? do you think williams could be moved back to the middle at some point in denver? or is he stuck at SLB in denver for the foreseable future.
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Looks stuck.Both Wilson and Gold are signed through 2010 at fairly reasonable salaries given the expected cap increase following next season. Williams signed a six year contract and is locked up through 2009. I've still got DJ rostered in most of my dynasty leagues (see my sig for details); IMO he's one of the best linebackers in the league -- a do-everything well skill set. I'm sure I'm probably still googly-eyed over his performance on the weak side over the last 6 games of 2004.
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wow, with those kind of contract lengths he's definately locked. what is williams rookie contract like? is there a chance he leaves in a year or two?
 
odon said:
Jene Bramel said:
odon said:
what about DJ WILLIAMS strong side lb in denver. he was a stud his rookie season at MLB befroe he was moved to the strong side. al wilson and ian gold are not getting younger. it seems like they have been there forever,what is the status of their contracts? i believe williams is in his 3rd year of his rookie contract? when is his contract up? could he leave denver for a primo MLB spot somewhere else? do you think williams could be moved back to the middle at some point in denver? or is he stuck at SLB in denver for the foreseable future.
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Looks stuck.Both Wilson and Gold are signed through 2010 at fairly reasonable salaries given the expected cap increase following next season. Williams signed a six year contract and is locked up through 2009. I've still got DJ rostered in most of my dynasty leagues (see my sig for details); IMO he's one of the best linebackers in the league -- a do-everything well skill set. I'm sure I'm probably still googly-eyed over his performance on the weak side over the last 6 games of 2004.
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wow, with those kind of contract lengths he's definately locked. what is williams rookie contract like? is there a chance he leaves in a year or two?
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2006: $478,0002007: $650,000

2008: $850,000

2009: $1,050,000

No chance he's leaving if he's still productive.

 
Great thread!!

16 team dynasty.

I have Hodge on my taxi squad already but have room for another rookie or two.

Tulloch, Stephen TEN

Anderson, James CAR

Gaither, Omar PHI

Jamar Williams

are all available.

These seem to be the top rookies listed who could impact soon from the above posts.

Who's the best of this bunch?

Sorry for :fishing:

 
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i recall that when Beck went into game action as a replacement for Hartwell this year, he did not impress at all, so much that they made the brooking to MLB switch almost immediately. Originally they did not want to make this move.

The Carnage said:
For those high on J. Beck as the heir to Hartwell at MLB...Why is it that when Hartwell can't play, Brookings moves over and (I assume, according to the FBG charts) D. Williams comes in as WLB. If the Falcons feel that's their best set given the circumstances, why wouldn't they just stick with that if Hartwell were gone?I've had Beck on occasion in a dynasty league and ended up releasing him, most recently, over things like this. Yes, he was hurt earlier in the year and missed all of last, but why won't they play him now? Is he still fighting the injury?
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gregjcross said:
i recall that when Beck went into game action as a replacement for Hartwell this year, he did not impress at all, so much that they made the brooking to MLB switch almost immediately. Originally they did not want to make this move.

The Carnage said:
For those high on J. Beck as the heir to Hartwell at MLB...Why is it that when Hartwell can't play, Brookings moves over and (I assume, according to the FBG charts) D. Williams comes in as WLB. If the Falcons feel that's their best set given the circumstances, why wouldn't they just stick with that if Hartwell were gone?I've had Beck on occasion in a dynasty league and ended up releasing him, most recently, over things like this. Yes, he was hurt earlier in the year and missed all of last, but why won't they play him now? Is he still fighting the injury?
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Hartwell was inactive, Brooking started at MLB, and Beck did not record any stats. Did he even enter the game other than special teams play?
 
CommuterMan said:
What about Chad Greenway? How does he project out next year with the Vikings?
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He doesn't project very well right now unless the Vikings elect not or are unable to re-sign EJ Henderson. Much of Greenway's promise as a Tampa-2 WLB is tied to his pursuit speed and elusiveness. He's going to have a tough time regaining all of that 12 months after an ACL injury. He wasn't pushing EJ hard for the job before the injury anyway despite Henderson's lukewarm career at that point.
 
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CommuterMan said:
What about Chad Greenway? How does he project out next year with the Vikings?
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He doesn't project very well right now unless the Vikings elect not or are unable to re-sign EJ Henderson. Much of Greenway's promise as a Tampa-2 WLB is tied to his pursuit speed and elusiveness. He's going to have a tough time regaining all of that 12 months after an ACL injury. He wasn't pushing EJ hard for the job before the injury anyway despite Henderson's lukewarm career at that point.
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and to think i took greenway over simms because of simms injury history with concussions now its me :wall:
 
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I'll turn this on its head a bit - lets think about big roles that are going to open up soon:

Tampa WLB - Derrick Brooks is getting up there in years

Buffalo MLB - Fletcher-Baker will be a free agent

New England ILB - Junior Seau is a one year plug in

Indianapolis WLB - Cato June will be a free agent

San Diego ILBs - discussed at length in this forum - Godfrey is almost done, and Edwards was close to being traded in the preseason

Carolina MLB - Will Dan Morgan ever play again? Chris Draft is not the answer.

Anyone with insight into these possible plum IDP spots for the taking?

 
Sigmund Bloom said:
I'll turn this on its head a bit - lets think about big roles that are going to open up soon:Tampa WLB - Derrick Brooks is getting up there in yearsBuffalo MLB - Fletcher-Baker will be a free agentNew England ILB - Junior Seau is a one year plug inIndianapolis WLB - Cato June will be a free agentSan Diego ILBs - discussed at length in this forum - Godfrey is almost done, and Edwards was close to being traded in the preseasonCarolina MLB - Will Dan Morgan ever play again? Chris Draft is not the answer.Anyone with insight into these possible plum IDP spots for the taking?
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June's interesting. I would have to think that to the extent that Indy doesn't resign him, any team that lures him away is going to do so with the intention to start him. Moreover, because of his size and history as a converted safety, he'd almost certainly be put into the Will spot in a 4-3 defense. I think he has a lot of value regardless of which uniform he's wearing next year. Right now I've heard nothing about Indy's intentions regarding resigning him, but I would defer to locals/homers on that one.
 
Jene Bramel said:
odon said:
Jene Bramel said:
odon said:
what about DJ WILLIAMS strong side lb in denver. he was a stud his rookie season at MLB befroe he was moved to the strong side. al wilson and ian gold are not getting younger. it seems like they have been there forever,what is the status of their contracts? i believe williams is in his 3rd year of his rookie contract? when is his contract up? could he leave denver for a primo MLB spot somewhere else? do you think williams could be moved back to the middle at some point in denver? or is he stuck at SLB in denver for the foreseable future.
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Looks stuck.Both Wilson and Gold are signed through 2010 at fairly reasonable salaries given the expected cap increase following next season. Williams signed a six year contract and is locked up through 2009. I've still got DJ rostered in most of my dynasty leagues (see my sig for details); IMO he's one of the best linebackers in the league -- a do-everything well skill set. I'm sure I'm probably still googly-eyed over his performance on the weak side over the last 6 games of 2004.
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wow, with those kind of contract lengths he's definately locked. what is williams rookie contract like? is there a chance he leaves in a year or two?
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2006: $478,0002007: $650,000

2008: $850,000

2009: $1,050,000

No chance he's leaving if he's still productive.
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To further confuse matters, FWIW I saw this on another site""In an interesting move, the team signed backup MLB Nate Webster to a two-year contract extension last week. Webster, a former starting with the Bengals and occasionally in Tampa Bay, has not dressed for a game yet this year. Al Wilson is still under contract for two more years.""

 
Sigmund Bloom said:
I'll turn this on its head a bit - lets think about big roles that are going to open up soon:Tampa WLB - Derrick Brooks is getting up there in yearsBuffalo MLB - Fletcher-Baker will be a free agentNew England ILB - Junior Seau is a one year plug inIndianapolis WLB - Cato June will be a free agentSan Diego ILBs - discussed at length in this forum - Godfrey is almost done, and Edwards was close to being traded in the preseasonCarolina MLB - Will Dan Morgan ever play again? Chris Draft is not the answer.Anyone with insight into these possible plum IDP spots for the taking?
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I think the heirs to the Indy, SD, and Carolina jobs are almost certainly already rostered (purely speculating on James Anderson as I noted above). But I didn't add anybody from Tampa or Buffalo or New England on my original list because I don't see any viable candidates on those rosters.The Bills' Keith Ellison is interesting but not particularly sexy. I don't see anything (other than Ruud) of reasonable value in Tampa or New England.Anybody else?
 
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