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Berger

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I'll explain a little first. These rankings are calculated. It looks at more than record, putting alot of emphasis on who the team has beat. The third column is how much (relatively) better team a is than team b. As you can see the Colts are (so far) heads and shoulders above anyone else.

Rank Team Margin

1 Colts 3.71

2 Broncos 0.15

3 Bears 0.24

4 Patriots 0.22

5 Giants 0.46

6 Saints 0.06

7 Ravens 0.52

8 Panthers 0.30

9 Falcons 0.50

10 Jaguars 0.33

11 Bengals 0.21

12 Vikings 0.16

13 Chiefs 0.20

14 Chargers 0.05

15 Seahawks 0.07

16 Rams 0.21

17 Cowboys 0.14

18 Eagles 1.25

19 Buccaneers 0.79

20 Jets 0.22

21 Redskins 0.26

22 Browns 0.11

23 49ers 0.06

24 Bills 0.12

25 Texans 0.12

26 Steelers 0.16

27 Titans 0.53

28 Raiders 0.04

29 Packers 0.37

30 Lions 0.10

31 Cardinals 0.06

32 Dolphins

 
I'll explain a little first. These rankings are calculated. It looks at more than record, putting alot of emphasis on who the team has beat. The third column is how much (relatively) better team a is than team b. As you can see the Colts are (so far) heads and shoulders above anyone else.Rank Team Margin 1 Colts 3.71 2 Broncos 0.15 3 Bears 0.24 4 Patriots 0.22 5 Giants 0.46
So, if I'm understanding this correctly, the Colts are 3.71 ahead of the Broncos, who are 0.15 better than the Bears, who are 0.24 better than the Pats, etc?That does seem like quite a margin for the Colts. Can you give us details on your formula? How did you come up with this?
 
I'd be interested to know your formula. This is one of the best power ranking lists I have looked at all season. It seems every list you see has some homerism bias towards the team de jour. I don't totally agree with all the rankings as I think the Chargers are way too low, but all in all your list seems pretty much right on track with very little (if any) biases.

ETA: I'm not a Chargers fan, I just was pointing out what I felt was the worst ranking on a very good list.

 
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I'll explain a little first. These rankings are calculated. It looks at more than record, putting alot of emphasis on who the team has beat. The third column is how much (relatively) better team a is than team b. As you can see the Colts are (so far) heads and shoulders above anyone else.Rank Team Margin 1 Colts 3.71 2 Broncos 0.15 3 Bears 0.24 4 Patriots 0.22 5 Giants 0.46
So, if I'm understanding this correctly, the Colts are 3.71 ahead of the Broncos, who are 0.15 better than the Bears, who are 0.24 better than the Pats, etc?That does seem like quite a margin for the Colts. Can you give us details on your formula? How did you come up with this?
This is correct. The margin between the Colts and Broncos is huge. Followed by the gap between the Eagles and Buccs.I'd rather not publicize the formula yet, just looking for feedback on the results.
 
I'm no Bears fan, but I just don't understand how anyone can leave them out of the #1 spot right now.

They're undefeated.

They're playing well in ALL aspects of the game... Run, pass, defense, SP Teams....

Sure, IND's offense is all world, but they're one dimensional, they can't defend.

Sure, DEN defense is all world, but they're one dimensional, they have no offense.

At this point, I'd rank em:

Bears

Colts

Broncos

Patriots

 
shredhead said:
I'd be interested to know your formula. This is one of the best power ranking lists I have looked at all season. It seems every list you see has some homerism bias towards the team de jour. I don't totally agree with all the rankings as I think the Chargers are way too low, but all in all your list seems pretty much right on track with very little (if any) biases.ETA: I'm not a Chargers fan, I just was pointing out what I felt was the worst ranking on a very good list.
Thank you for the kind words. I can gurantee there is no homerism in there, and no team dejour. If there were the Pats would be higher as their win is freshest in everyones minds. The Chargers aren't higher (yet) because the best team they've beaten (aside from the Rams) was the 49ers. They've lost to the two teams (Ravens and Chiefs) that could have put at the top.My formula does this kind of analysis for each team and quantifies it.
 
TD Ryan said:
I'm no Bears fan, but I just don't understand how anyone can leave them out of the #1 spot right now.They're undefeated.They're playing well in ALL aspects of the game... Run, pass, defense, SP Teams....Sure, IND's offense is all world, but they're one dimensional, they can't defend.Sure, DEN defense is all world, but they're one dimensional, they have no offense.At this point, I'd rank em:BearsColtsBroncosPatriots
The OP said it is based heavily on who the teams have beaten. If that is the case, it makes sense that the Colts would be #1. Not necessarily agreeing with the results, but I'm just sayin' ;)
 
TD Ryan said:
I'm no Bears fan, but I just don't understand how anyone can leave them out of the #1 spot right now.They're undefeated.They're playing well in ALL aspects of the game... Run, pass, defense, SP Teams....Sure, IND's offense is all world, but they're one dimensional, they can't defend.Sure, DEN defense is all world, but they're one dimensional, they have no offense.At this point, I'd rank em:BearsColtsBroncosPatriots
The Bears haven't beaten anyone of substance. Their opponents have a record of 17-33. Two teams with winning records. Seattle(Alexander was not playing) and Minny.
 
TD Ryan said:
I'm no Bears fan, but I just don't understand how anyone can leave them out of the #1 spot right now.They're undefeated.They're playing well in ALL aspects of the game... Run, pass, defense, SP Teams....Sure, IND's offense is all world, but they're one dimensional, they can't defend.Sure, DEN defense is all world, but they're one dimensional, they have no offense.At this point, I'd rank em:BearsColtsBroncosPatriots
The Bears haven't beaten anyone of substance. Their opponents have a record of 17-33. Two teams with winning records. Seattle(Alexander was not playing) and Minny.
I agree, but they way they are beating most of these teams has to count for something. Except for the Vikings/Cardinals game, the Bears put the car on cruise control in the middle of the second quarter.
 
TD Ryan said:
I'm no Bears fan, but I just don't understand how anyone can leave them out of the #1 spot right now.They're undefeated.They're playing well in ALL aspects of the game... Run, pass, defense, SP Teams....Sure, IND's offense is all world, but they're one dimensional, they can't defend.Sure, DEN defense is all world, but they're one dimensional, they have no offense.At this point, I'd rank em:BearsColtsBroncosPatriots
The Bears haven't beaten anyone of substance. Their opponents have a record of 17-33. Two teams with winning records. Seattle(Alexander was not playing) and Minny.
I agree, but they way they are beating most of these teams has to count for something. Except for the Vikings/Cardinals game, the Bears put the car on cruise control in the middle of the second quarter.
I was just trying to point out the colts have beaten two 5-2 teams, and the bears have beaten....well, noone. Cruise control or not, of the two teams that are unbeaten, I think the one that has at least defeated some good teams should be ranked #1.
 
TD Ryan said:
I'm no Bears fan, but I just don't understand how anyone can leave them out of the #1 spot right now.They're undefeated.They're playing well in ALL aspects of the game... Run, pass, defense, SP Teams....Sure, IND's offense is all world, but they're one dimensional, they can't defend.Sure, DEN defense is all world, but they're one dimensional, they have no offense.At this point, I'd rank em:BearsColtsBroncosPatriots
The Bears haven't beaten anyone of substance. Their opponents have a record of 17-33. Two teams with winning records. Seattle(Alexander was not playing) and Minny.
I agree, but they way they are beating most of these teams has to count for something. Except for the Vikings/Cardinals game, the Bears put the car on cruise control in the middle of the second quarter.
I was just trying to point out the colts have beaten two 5-2 teams, and the bears have beaten....well, noone. Cruise control or not, of the two teams that are unbeaten, I think the one that has at least defeated some good teams should be ranked #1.
Absolutely. The Colts have beaten the Broncos (my #2) and the Giants (my #5). The Bears have beaten my #12 and #15. How can you argue they are "better". The Dolphins could beat my HS football team hands down, but that doesn't say much for how well they would play the Cardinals.
 
Berger said:
I'll explain a little first. These rankings are calculated. It looks at more than record, putting alot of emphasis on who the team has beat. The third column is how much (relatively) better team a is than team b. As you can see the Colts are (so far) heads and shoulders above anyone else.

Rank Team Margin

1 Colts 3.71

2 Broncos 0.15

3 Bears 0.24

4 Patriots 0.22

5 Giants 0.46

6 Saints 0.06

7 Ravens 0.52
what about a team that got ran over ranked ahead of the team who ran them over? :rolleyes:
 
Berger said:
I'll explain a little first. These rankings are calculated. It looks at more than record, putting alot of emphasis on who the team has beat. The third column is how much (relatively) better team a is than team b. As you can see the Colts are (so far) heads and shoulders above anyone else.

Rank Team Margin

1 Colts 3.71

2 Broncos 0.15

3 Bears 0.24

4 Patriots 0.22

5 Giants 0.46

6 Saints 0.06

7 Ravens 0.52
what about a team that got ran over ranked ahead of the team who ran them over? :rolleyes:
So the Ravens should be below the Panthers?you will have a hard time doing this using that rule.

 
Berger said:
I'll explain a little first. These rankings are calculated. It looks at more than record, putting alot of emphasis on who the team has beat. The third column is how much (relatively) better team a is than team b. As you can see the Colts are (so far) heads and shoulders above anyone else.

Rank Team Margin

1 Colts 3.71

2 Broncos 0.15

3 Bears 0.24

4 Patriots 0.22

5 Giants 0.46

6 Saints 0.06

7 Ravens 0.52
what about a team that got ran over ranked ahead of the team who ran them over? :rolleyes:
So the Ravens should be below the Panthers?you will have a hard time doing this using that rule.
well i understand that, but when a team goes out and straight dominates another.....I would hardly think the other team deserves to be ahead. if that means putting the panthers ahead of baltimore, sure. But Baltimore would beat NO 9 times out of 10
 
I think you could make an argument for the Colts being the best team in the NFL - but I certainly don't think they're so far ahead of the field as this list would show. Maybe last season this would make sense, but not this season.

 
Berger said:
I'll explain a little first. These rankings are calculated. It looks at more than record, putting alot of emphasis on who the team has beat. The third column is how much (relatively) better team a is than team b. As you can see the Colts are (so far) heads and shoulders above anyone else.

Rank Team Margin

1 Colts 3.71

2 Broncos 0.15

3 Bears 0.24

4 Patriots 0.22

5 Giants 0.46

6 Saints 0.06

7 Ravens 0.52
what about a team that got ran over ranked ahead of the team who ran them over? :rolleyes:
So the Ravens should be below the Panthers?you will have a hard time doing this using that rule.
well i understand that, but when a team goes out and straight dominates another.....I would hardly think the other team deserves to be ahead. if that means putting the panthers ahead of baltimore, sure. But Baltimore would beat NO 9 times out of 10
Your "logic" only looks at one game. There have been 8 weeks of football played. Also, notice the .06 margin from the saints to the ravens. Its minimal at best.
 
Berger said:
I'll explain a little first. These rankings are calculated. It looks at more than record, putting alot of emphasis on who the team has beat. The third column is how much (relatively) better team a is than team b. As you can see the Colts are (so far) heads and shoulders above anyone else.

Rank Team Margin

1 Colts 3.71

2 Broncos 0.15

3 Bears 0.24

4 Patriots 0.22

5 Giants 0.46

6 Saints 0.06

7 Ravens 0.52
what about a team that got ran over ranked ahead of the team who ran them over? :rolleyes:
So the Ravens should be below the Panthers?you will have a hard time doing this using that rule.
well i understand that, but when a team goes out and straight dominates another.....I would hardly think the other team deserves to be ahead. if that means putting the panthers ahead of baltimore, sure. But Baltimore would beat NO 9 times out of 10
Your "logic" only looks at one game. There have been 8 weeks of football played. Also, notice the .06 margin from the saints to the ravens. Its minimal at best.
fair enough. i just think the ravens are a better team from what i saw in eight games. "agree to disagree"!
 
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TD Ryan said:
I'm no Bears fan, but I just don't understand how anyone can leave them out of the #1 spot right now.They're undefeated.They're playing well in ALL aspects of the game... Run, pass, defense, SP Teams....Sure, IND's offense is all world, but they're one dimensional, they can't defend.Sure, DEN defense is all world, but they're one dimensional, they have no offense.At this point, I'd rank em:BearsColtsBroncosPatriots
The Bears haven't beaten anyone of substance. Their opponents have a record of 17-33. Two teams with winning records. Seattle(Alexander was not playing) and Minny.
I agree, but they way they are beating most of these teams has to count for something. Except for the Vikings/Cardinals game, the Bears put the car on cruise control in the middle of the second quarter.
I was just trying to point out the colts have beaten two 5-2 teams, and the bears have beaten....well, noone. Cruise control or not, of the two teams that are unbeaten, I think the one that has at least defeated some good teams should be ranked #1.
The Bears have beaten two 4-3 teams. One can say the Seahawks were missing Alexander in that game, but it wouldn't have mattered. No one was beating the Bears that night, Alexander or not. And it is not like Alexander was lighting it up when he was playing this year so far.
 
I think you could make an argument for the Colts being the best team in the NFL - but I certainly don't think they're so far ahead of the field as this list would show. Maybe last season this would make sense, but not this season.
You're probably right. But they have played and beat 2 really good teams. They could basically lose to the Patriots and depending on what else goes down next week stay in the one or be a close two.
 
Good list, but the #s really mean nothing without some understanding on what they mean.

Is it how much better as a % the team is above the other team? How many points they would beat them by if they played?

If it is a percentage, then the Broncos would be 15% better than the Bears. Meaning if they played the Broncs would be 53.5% to win and the Bears 46.5%.

The Colts against the Broncos would be 78.8% in favor of Colts and 21.2 in favor of Denver, which seems low considering they just played a close matchup.

 
Good list, but the #s really mean nothing without some understanding on what they mean.Is it how much better as a % the team is above the other team? How many points they would beat them by if they played? If it is a percentage, then the Broncos would be 15% better than the Bears. Meaning if they played the Broncs would be 53.5% to win and the Bears 46.5%.The Colts against the Broncos would be 78.8% in favor of Colts and 21.2 in favor of Denver, which seems low considering they just played a close matchup.
Good analysis. I actually only posted the difference between the teams for relativity purposes. The numbers in and of themselves are meaningless (not how much they would win/lose by), as they change each week because the algorithm becomes more confident.
 
I'd like to see the formula that seeds a 4 loss team ahead of a 2 loss team. :rolleyes:
Me too. Not to mention that there is no way the Bears should be that much lower than the Colts, considering they have the same record, and have both scored more and allowed less points than the Colts. Both have beaten two winning teams. I fail to see how any reliable formula could put Indy ahead of Chicago by that much.
 
I'd like to see the formula that seeds a 4 loss team ahead of a 2 loss team. :rolleyes:
Me too. Not to mention that there is no way the Bears should be that much lower than the Colts, considering they have the same record, and have both scored more and allowed less points than the Colts. Both have beaten two winning teams. I fail to see how any reliable formula could put Indy ahead of Chicago by that much.
The Panthers (as will all the teams with a bye this week) will most certainly drop after this weeks games. I do not account for bye weeks (because they are not a win, they actually are treated more like a loss) so those teams are most assuredly overrated here. Good find.And you simply cannot look at W/L, PF/PA because as I said earlier you have to weigh everything against who said team is beating. Would a team that has beaten the bottom 8 teams (8-0) be ranked higher than a team that has played the best 8 teams and beat six of them (6-2)?
 
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The Bears haven't beaten anyone of substance. Their opponents have a record of 17-33. Two teams with winning records. Seattle(Alexander was not playing) and Minny.
See, and this makes sense, because SEA was without its best player, and Minnesota won't finish at .500, so their 4-2 (4-3 now) is misleading. They've beaten bad teams, and the good teams they have beaten were without key players (WAS - Springs/Portis, SEA - Hass, SA, CAR - Smith, then Detroit, which is a bad team).I would like to know a bit of what goes into these rankings, but honestly... they look very close to how I would rank these teams myself.Miami at 32 is great, btw. :thumbup:
 
The Bears haven't beaten anyone of substance. Their opponents have a record of 17-33. Two teams with winning records. Seattle(Alexander was not playing) and Minny.
See, and this makes sense, because SEA was without its best player, and Minnesota won't finish at .500, so their 4-2 (4-3 now) is misleading. They've beaten bad teams, and the good teams they have beaten were without key players (WAS - Springs/Portis, SEA - Hass, SA, CAR - Smith, then Detroit, which is a bad team).I would like to know a bit of what goes into these rankings, but honestly... they look very close to how I would rank these teams myself.Miami at 32 is great, btw. :thumbup:
Yes, it is very close between them and Arizona.
 
13 Chiefs 0.2014 Chargers 0.05
Despite the close loss at KC, the Chargers score more points and give up less points than the Chiefs and have a better record. That ranking doesn't make a lot of sense.
 
Berger said:
Rank Team Margin ...26 Steelers 0.16 27 Titans 0.53 28 Raiders 0.04 29 Packers 0.37 30 Lions 0.10 31 Cardinals 0.06 32 Dolphins
Raiders beat the Stillers so may as well switch those two :hophead: Just kidding, but it's crazy to me seeing the Steelers that low not even halfway into this season. They've really tanked this year ...ETA - Along with others, I'm anxious to see your formula. It does appear to be pretty solid.
 
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jonessed said:
So the Chargers should lose to anyone but the Raiders and the Dolphins?
The number after the team is only relative to the team just below them.So, no, the Chargers would theoretically lose to anyone above them on the list.
 
13 Chiefs 0.2014 Chargers 0.05
Despite the close loss at KC, the Chargers score more points and give up less points than the Chiefs and have a better record. That ranking doesn't make a lot of sense.
Remember that thing called strength of schedule
 
Why does everybody always think the best team wins?
:goodposting: That's what's wrong with any power ranking system. It is completely mathematical and doesn't account for the human factor. Peyton Manning could be sick on a certain Sunday and the Colts lose to the 32nd ranked team. We are all human not mathematical machines. Our performances vary day to day. That's why they play the games, Any given Sunday, yadda yadda yadda.The BCS is the perfect example of why a power ranking system should never be used for determining anything of importance. But I don't want to open that can of worms. Power rankings are just another way of measuring past performances and are always debatable because there is nop perfect formula. They should not be used to predict future results. There are too many other factors involved.I am a lifelong Broncos fan and love seeing them at #2. I don't think they deserve to be that high on the list based on how the offense has played so far this season.
 
13 Chiefs 0.2014 Chargers 0.05
Despite the close loss at KC, the Chargers score more points and give up less points than the Chiefs and have a better record. That ranking doesn't make a lot of sense.
Remember that thing called strength of schedule
The only good teams KC has beaten are SD and Seattle - which was without Hass and SA. They lost 45-7 to the Steelers while SD beat them 23-13. I guess we'll know a little more after KC plays the Rams who SD just beat and SD plays Cincy and Denver coming up in the next few games.
 
Gotta do some bashing for a pretty good attempt at least.

Indy without a run defense won't win the Super Bowl. The Bears in my opinion should be 1 in every poll. Solid at every angle even offense most weeks.

S.F. way to hi!

How can Carilina be ranked so much higher then Dallas when Dallas just wholloped them on there home turf? So did Cincy!

Still needs work and just like any polls has OBVIOUS HOLES!

 

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