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Amani Toomer out for the season (1 Viewer)
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sdsjr3
Footballguy
So then, the obvious question. Carter or Moss?ETA: I guess Tyree is in the picture as well huh?
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Tim Carter.
Waiver wire.
Do it..... NOW!
Waiver wire.
Do it..... NOW!
sdsjr3
Footballguy
I was thinking Carter. He's actually a pretty decent WR if I remember correctly.
Men-in-Cleats
Footballguy
Moss hasn't been healthy so he isn't in the picture until he's able to suit up. Not sure I'd get too excited over the guy who's the #4 target after Plexico, Shockey, and Tiki. Toomer has had one big game and not much else, hasn't he?
aldelgreco
Footballguy
What makes you think that it will be Carter?
NYCGangGreen
Footballguy
Is this true? Any link or just a blurb on WFAN....???
Mike and the Maddog or a different show? I need to know the validity of this.
Mike and the Maddog or a different show? I need to know the validity of this.
Mike Jennings, anyone?
Flyin Pigs
Footballguy
just read about that...
from CBSSportsline:
"Giants WR Amani Toomer (torn ACL) will miss the remainder of the 2006 season. Toomer hurt his left knee vs. Houston in Week 9, according to Giants.com. "I didn't think anything of it," Toomer said. "It was very disappointing when I got the MRI. This happened before (as a rookie 10 years ago, Toomer underwent surgery after tearing his right ACL). So I kind of knew what it felt like when it happened." Toomer did have the option to play on his knee, but wanted surgery done right away so he could begin preparing for 2007. "
from CBSSportsline:
"Giants WR Amani Toomer (torn ACL) will miss the remainder of the 2006 season. Toomer hurt his left knee vs. Houston in Week 9, according to Giants.com. "I didn't think anything of it," Toomer said. "It was very disappointing when I got the MRI. This happened before (as a rookie 10 years ago, Toomer underwent surgery after tearing his right ACL). So I kind of knew what it felt like when it happened." Toomer did have the option to play on his knee, but wanted surgery done right away so he could begin preparing for 2007. "
BustedKnuckles
Footballguy
Amani Toomer-WR- Giants Nov. 8 - 3:36 pm et
NFL Network reports that Amani Toomer is out for the season.
No other information was given. We'll update the story as we know more. Tim Carter could move in to the starting lineup and Michael Jennings would get more snaps
NFL Network reports that Amani Toomer is out for the season.
No other information was given. We'll update the story as we know more. Tim Carter could move in to the starting lineup and Michael Jennings would get more snaps
NYCGangGreen
Footballguy
NFL Network reports that Amani Toomer is out for the season.
No other information was given. We'll update the story as we know more. Tim Carter could move in to the starting lineup and Michael Jennings would get more snaps.
from Rotoworld.com
No other information was given. We'll update the story as we know more. Tim Carter could move in to the starting lineup and Michael Jennings would get more snaps.
from Rotoworld.com
aldelgreco
Footballguy
who?I need a WR bad, guys. Picking the right guy "#4 target" or not could help me out.
hellz_fireflies
Footballguy
WR Plaxico Burress (inj), Amani Toomer, Tim Carter, David Tyree (inj), Sinorice Moss (inj), Michael Jennings (PR
hmmm which one?
hmmm which one?
Flyin Pigs
Footballguy
Not sure who's gonna step up off of their bench. But I did make sure that I was the first person to break the news (gently, of course) to my league-mate that has Toomer. If anyone in your league owns Toomer and is maybe a bit thin at WR, offering some depth at WR along with the news of Toomer, in exchange for someone off of his roster may be greeted positively!
I only bring up Jennings because it seemed like Carter was getting pushed around a lot at the line last week. A track type like Carter might be better suited to line up more often in the slot. Jennings is a former track guy himself, but he's bounced around practice squads and NFL Europe and might be a little scrappier.
Mmen of Steel
Footballguy
Tim Carter is pretty fast, I'll go with him.WR Plaxico Burress (inj), Amani Toomer, Tim Carter, David Tyree (inj), Sinorice Moss (inj), Michael Jennings (PR
hmmm which one?
radballs
Footballguy
hellz_fireflies
Footballguy
Looking at the NYG sch. chi.jags.tenn.dallas.car.phila. not a easy one but
seems who ever it will be to replace toomer will get alot of targets since most teams will put double coverage on Burress.
seems who ever it will be to replace toomer will get alot of targets since most teams will put double coverage on Burress.
aldelgreco
Footballguy
could be. a change of pace might make for an explosive game or two out of a relative unknown.You guys kill me.Amani Toomer, who save for one big game, was having a terrible season. But the guy who can't beat EVEN HIM out is gonna step in and be a fantasy proucer?
Warhogs
Footballguy
That kind of thinking can cause you to miss out on a lot of solid performers. Sure, the likelyhood of Carter or someone else stepping into a starting role and exploding is not highly likely but several players over the years have stepped into an opportunity and carried teams to titles. If your roster is deep enough, why not take a chance. In the NFL it takes talent and opportunity. Steve Smith was not a starter when he entered the league either. I am willing to cut someone from a deep roster and take a chance.You guys kill me.Amani Toomer, who save for one big game, was having a terrible season. But the guy who can't beat EVEN HIM out is gonna step in and be a fantasy proucer?
Kit Fisto
Footballguy
Sure, I get that. All it takes is opportunity for some guys. He would sit in my 8th WR spot too.But start him? You're telling me that Tim Carter/Mike Jennings immediately become fantasy starter material because Toomer went down?That kind of thinking can cause you to miss out on a lot of solid performers. Sure, the likelyhood of Carter or someone else stepping into a starting role and exploding is not highly likely but several players over the years have stepped into an opportunity and carried teams to titles. If your roster is deep enough, why not take a chance. In the NFL it takes talent and opportunity. Steve Smith was not a starter when he entered the league either. I am willing to cut someone from a deep roster and take a chance.You guys kill me.Amani Toomer, who save for one big game, was having a terrible season. But the guy who can't beat EVEN HIM out is gonna step in and be a fantasy proucer?
hellz_fireflies
Footballguy
The only person so far in this thread who came close to saying fantasy starter was the one who said fantasy producer and that was who??? 
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Is this the same Tim Carter who started last week and had 1 catch for 15 yards?
Domination
Footballguy
I think that Shockey will get a huge boost to his value. I was wondering if that could put him at a comperable value to Gates?
I don't see anyone in the receiving corps benefitting from this other than Shockey and Barber. Toomer had 3 targets in week 8. With Plaxico out, he had 4 (caught 2). Shockey had 10 targets (caught 8) including a TD.
Carter/Tyree/Jennings will likely be too hot/cold to justify the roster spot.
Carter/Tyree/Jennings will likely be too hot/cold to justify the roster spot.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
As an aside. Is Burress supposed to be back this week?
Marburg
Footballguy
Domination has the right move. Of Carter, Jennings and Tyree, Carter is likely to be the most productive, but I see those three splitting Toomer's targets (assuming Burress comes back this week).Its a better move to try to upgrade your tight end by grabbing Shockey. If you have the room to take a flyer on one of the WR's fine, but it's a long shot for any of them to be productive. Shockey has been inconsistent all year and mildly injured so the owner might be willing to part with him (assuming he doesn't read this post) if you make a decent offer.Heck if you can offer two second or third tier WRs for him, then you clear the bench space to take a flyer on Jennings and friends.If you are in a dynasty league and headed to the fantasy post season go for Barber. With all the injuries he is bound to get a lion's share of the load. Point to his pending retirement as the reason for your lowball offer, and try to snag him for future prospects.
Kit Fisto
Footballguy
Thank you.
BrentBlack
Footballguy
No it's a different one.
MSULions
Footballguy
Terrible Season? He was tied for team lead in receptions...he was actually having a pretty decent season and was a solid WR3.You guys kill me.Amani Toomer, who save for one big game, was having a terrible season. But the guy who can't beat EVEN HIM out is gonna step in and be a fantasy proucer?
ThisGuy
Ignored by Nipsey
Holy Cow this hurts! Eli used Amani as a security balnket. Amani was tied for the team lead in receptions and had a huge catch at the end of the game that sealed it for the Giants. This doesn't hurt from a fantasy POV as much as it does in real football.
This will certainly bump up Plax and Shockey because they will see more throws. No Plax made it evident that they were going to use Shockey more. It should remain the same missing Toomer.
Dear God, please keep these Giants healthy!!
This will certainly bump up Plax and Shockey because they will see more throws. No Plax made it evident that they were going to use Shockey more. It should remain the same missing Toomer.
Dear God, please keep these Giants healthy!!
Kit Fisto
Footballguy
Take out the Philly game, and no he's not. 1 IND 5 41 8.2 02 PHI 12 137 11.4 23 SEA 3 29 9.7 15 WAS 4 81 20.3 06 ATL 2 18 9.0 07 DAL 3 26 8.7 08 TB 1 12 12.0 09 HOU 2 16 8.0 0Those aren't the stats of a "solid WR3". Not in any of the leagues I play in, at least.Terrible Season? He was tied for team lead in receptions...he was actually having a pretty decent season and was a solid WR3.You guys kill me.Amani Toomer, who save for one big game, was having a terrible season. But the guy who can't beat EVEN HIM out is gonna step in and be a fantasy proucer?
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If you're not in a PPR league, you don't get points for effort.Terrible Season? He was tied for team lead in receptions...he was actually having a pretty decent season and was a solid WR3.You guys kill me.Amani Toomer, who save for one big game, was having a terrible season. But the guy who can't beat EVEN HIM out is gonna step in and be a fantasy proucer?
I would certainly cut him if you can add a solid WR prospect like Travis Wilson, DJ Hackett, Demetrius Williams, but I don't think Toomer's career is over. The big question is whether he'll be a starter when he comes back - The progress of Sinorice Moss likely holds the answer to that.
In the game thread I had posted something like "wait, he had a screen pass too". I went back with the DVR and he sure did. He caught it and ran for 5-6 yards. I emailed Stats and they said they were aware of it but I haven't seen a scoring change. Maybe today.
Moss can't make progress when he's hurt. Carter has a chance to step up. Toomer is a vet they all look to like Muhsin in Chicago. He's gonna be hard to bench due to "intangibles" esp with Tiki retiring.It's hard not to root for Jennings. The guy didn't even play football much and was signed because he's fast. He's still learning everything. Boy does he say the right thing too. My fave comment was when he was asked what it will take to make the team "I don't know, I never made an NFL team before". He used to work out hoping to make a team. Now during the week he works out more than most NFL players hoping to play. Just a great great attitude and work ethic. He had a catch and you could see a big smile as he got up and the cameras were zoomed in after the tackle. For a sec, he was proud then bolted to the huddle like oh sh. Very inexperienced but fun reaction. I really like that guy.No clue why the Giants don't have him returning kicks and punts. Morton's real unimpressive and doesn't run like he did with the Jets and Skins.
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wildbluefan
Footballguy
Carter's a HACK.....stricly a burner and NON- route runner...you are not getting COLSTON here !! 
