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Does he get yanked for Lefty after his first bad game, or has he been handed the reins?
I'm struggling with this. We start 2 QBs and can only carry 3 (not including IR). Right now Lefty is still officially listed as questionable so he's still in an IR slot, but I have to decide between dropping him or Pennington probably by next week.Anyone think it would be safe to drop Leftwich?
They are winning with him and looking multi dimentional doing it, so I think it is his job until they 1) Lose and 2) he looks bad in the loss.
I think they are bound to lose at least one game on their remaining schedule,GiantsBuffaloMiamiColtsTNPatriotsKansas Citybut if he does well even in a loss or losses, I wouldn't be surprised if he finishes the season as their starter.They are winning with him and looking multi dimentional doing it, so I think it is his job until they 1) Lose and 2) he looks bad in the loss.
What a mess in Jax now. Garrard just does not want to win this starting job; he deserves to be a back up by squandering a chance to lock into the starting position by throwing 4 pics against the Texans. uuuggh.Garrard. Can't beat the Texans at home?
That is correct. Two of the INT's were slants to Matt Jones that were in his hands and then out. It seems as if he's looking at the defender instead of tucking the ball away prior to the hit. He needs to sack up.Another INT was when Garrard's arm was hit while throwing.The last INT was a bad throw in the endzone. The Jags could have used at least a field goal there.Garrard was definitely off today. I don't know what's going to happen with the QB position, but I do know this though: If that was Leftwich throwing 4 picks, he would be getting grilled by the sorry-### Jaguar fan base right now.Buckna said:Have to see what Del Rio says this week and who he blames. 3 of the INT's were tipped balls, 2 directly Matt Jones fault. Lots of drops. The whole JAX offense looked bad today.
And I shoulda been a supermodel playboy millionaire, all QBs deal with bad INTs. But even if David had zero INTs he still played a poor game. I'm not saying the loss is his fault, but he did not play well.Matt Jones blew the game.Garrard should have had one INT.
Wadsworth = Byron Leftwich's mom?And I shoulda been a supermodel playboy millionaire, all QBs deal with bad INTs. But even if David had zero INTs he still played a poor game. I'm not saying the loss is his fault, but he did not play well.Matt Jones blew the game.Garrard should have had one INT.
Did you watch the game? That loss was definitely not his fault.Doctor Detroit said:Garrard. Can't beat the Texans at home?
Instead of a complete pass and first down the ball went the other way twice. What can you do?And I shoulda been a supermodel playboy millionaire, all QBs deal with bad INTs. But even if David had zero INTs he still played a poor game. I'm not saying the loss is his fault, but he did not play well.Matt Jones blew the game.Garrard should have had one INT.
You didn't see the game so stop.Instead of a complete pass and first down the ball went the other way twice. What can you do?And I shoulda been a supermodel playboy millionaire, all QBs deal with bad INTs. But even if David had zero INTs he still played a poor game. I'm not saying the loss is his fault, but he did not play well.Matt Jones blew the game.Garrard should have had one INT.
' date='Nov 12 2006, 07:27 PM' post='5895657']I have a feeling that Leftwich is suddenly going to be healthy next week.
AP reports Jacksonville Jaguars QB David Garrard, making his third consecutive start in place of QB Byron Leftwich, threw four interceptions today in a stunning loss to the Houston Texans. Two came after WR Matt Jones bobbled perfect passes. WR Ernest Wilford also dropped two balls, including a deep one that could have been a touchdown. Jacksonville's frustration boiled over in the closing minutes, when Wilford and WR Reggie Williams got into a shoving match on the sideline. Garrard completed a 38-yard pass to WR Cortez Hankton with about two minutes remaining, but the play was nullified by Williams' offensive pass interference penalty that forced a punt. Williams walked to the bench, then got into a shouting match with some fans. Wilford tried to calm him down, but ended up getting him more fired up. The two had to be separated. "I was just trying to calm him down and get his head back in the game," Wilford said. "He wasn't ready to be calmed down." Williams also was flagged for holding with about seven minutes to play, nullifying a 10-yard gain that set up first-and-goal at the 3. Garrard threw his fourth interception on the next play.
As a Jags fan, I was much more disappointed in the WRs than Garrard. It is tough to say what Del Rio would do because Garrard really did give them a shot at winning despite throwing 4 INTs. I think the main problem with this game is only 13 runs for Fred and 3 for MJD against a weak run defense. Fred was having a great game and they should have relied more heavily on the run to put it away. Oh well.Not to explain away all the mistakes, but there was a crazy glare across the field that Garrard threw the last, pretty much game ending, pick. It seemed to bother the other players at times as well.Very disappointing!AP reports Jacksonville Jaguars QB David Garrard, making his third consecutive start in place of QB Byron Leftwich, threw four interceptions today in a stunning loss to the Houston Texans. Two came after WR Matt Jones bobbled perfect passes. WR Ernest Wilford also dropped two balls, including a deep one that could have been a touchdown. Jacksonville's frustration boiled over in the closing minutes, when Wilford and WR Reggie Williams got into a shoving match on the sideline. Garrard completed a 38-yard pass to WR Cortez Hankton with about two minutes remaining, but the play was nullified by Williams' offensive pass interference penalty that forced a punt. Williams walked to the bench, then got into a shouting match with some fans. Wilford tried to calm him down, but ended up getting him more fired up. The two had to be separated. "I was just trying to calm him down and get his head back in the game," Wilford said. "He wasn't ready to be calmed down." Williams also was flagged for holding with about seven minutes to play, nullifying a 10-yard gain that set up first-and-goal at the 3. Garrard threw his fourth interception on the next play.
Uh-oh. Not looking good.AP reports Jacksonville Jaguars QB David Garrard, making his third consecutive start in place of QB Byron Leftwich, threw four interceptions today in a stunning loss to the Houston Texans. Two came after WR Matt Jones bobbled perfect passes. WR Ernest Wilford also dropped two balls, including a deep one that could have been a touchdown. Jacksonville's frustration boiled over in the closing minutes, when Wilford and WR Reggie Williams got into a shoving match on the sideline. Garrard completed a 38-yard pass to WR Cortez Hankton with about two minutes remaining, but the play was nullified by Williams' offensive pass interference penalty that forced a punt. Williams walked to the bench, then got into a shouting match with some fans. Wilford tried to calm him down, but ended up getting him more fired up. The two had to be separated. "I was just trying to calm him down and get his head back in the game," Wilford said. "He wasn't ready to be calmed down." Williams also was flagged for holding with about seven minutes to play, nullifying a 10-yard gain that set up first-and-goal at the 3. Garrard threw his fourth interception on the next play.
I agree.watching the game highlights on the NFL Network Matt Jones and Reggie Williams did not have good games at all. Garrard did not look that good either but did not get any help from Jones. Jones is still a raw WR.As a Jags fan, I was much more disappointed in the WRs than Garrard. It is tough to say what Del Rio would do because Garrard really did give them a shot at winning despite throwing 4 INTs. I think the main problem with this game is only 13 runs for Fred and 3 for MJD against a weak run defense. Fred was having a great game and they should have relied more heavily on the run to put it away. Oh well.Not to explain away all the mistakes, but there was a crazy glare across the field that Garrard threw the last, pretty much game ending, pick. It seemed to bother the other players at times as well.Very disappointing!AP reports Jacksonville Jaguars QB David Garrard, making his third consecutive start in place of QB Byron Leftwich, threw four interceptions today in a stunning loss to the Houston Texans. Two came after WR Matt Jones bobbled perfect passes. WR Ernest Wilford also dropped two balls, including a deep one that could have been a touchdown. Jacksonville's frustration boiled over in the closing minutes, when Wilford and WR Reggie Williams got into a shoving match on the sideline. Garrard completed a 38-yard pass to WR Cortez Hankton with about two minutes remaining, but the play was nullified by Williams' offensive pass interference penalty that forced a punt. Williams walked to the bench, then got into a shouting match with some fans. Wilford tried to calm him down, but ended up getting him more fired up. The two had to be separated. "I was just trying to calm him down and get his head back in the game," Wilford said. "He wasn't ready to be calmed down." Williams also was flagged for holding with about seven minutes to play, nullifying a 10-yard gain that set up first-and-goal at the 3. Garrard threw his fourth interception on the next play.
Yeah, Jones just looks so tenative right now. He was starting to catch again the last couple of weeks, but I don't know how much his number is going to get called if he is going to be so weak in securing the ball and ignoring the hit. As to Garrard, he may keep starting because Leftwich may be more injured than he is letting on. It was simply my observation, but twice when the camera panned to him on the sideline Lefty seemed to be limping a bit as he was walking around. Maybe he has a funny gait, but it looked more like he was favoring that ankle. He was downgraded to questionable late in the week after a practice, maybe that ankle won't heal other than surgery and Del Rio isn't simply using it as an excuse. This weeks practices should tell on that score. The sooner they are running 30+ times a game consistantly, the sooner they get back on track this season. With the YPC they were having, letting Garrard throw 34 times is a borderline travesty.I agree.watching the game highlights on the NFL Network Matt Jones and Reggie Williams did not have good games at all. Garrard did not look that good either but did not get any help from Jones. Jones is still a raw WR.As a Jags fan, I was much more disappointed in the WRs than Garrard. It is tough to say what Del Rio would do because Garrard really did give them a shot at winning despite throwing 4 INTs. I think the main problem with this game is only 13 runs for Fred and 3 for MJD against a weak run defense. Fred was having a great game and they should have relied more heavily on the run to put it away. Oh well.Not to explain away all the mistakes, but there was a crazy glare across the field that Garrard threw the last, pretty much game ending, pick. It seemed to bother the other players at times as well.Very disappointing!AP reports Jacksonville Jaguars QB David Garrard, making his third consecutive start in place of QB Byron Leftwich, threw four interceptions today in a stunning loss to the Houston Texans. Two came after WR Matt Jones bobbled perfect passes. WR Ernest Wilford also dropped two balls, including a deep one that could have been a touchdown. Jacksonville's frustration boiled over in the closing minutes, when Wilford and WR Reggie Williams got into a shoving match on the sideline. Garrard completed a 38-yard pass to WR Cortez Hankton with about two minutes remaining, but the play was nullified by Williams' offensive pass interference penalty that forced a punt. Williams walked to the bench, then got into a shouting match with some fans. Wilford tried to calm him down, but ended up getting him more fired up. The two had to be separated. "I was just trying to calm him down and get his head back in the game," Wilford said. "He wasn't ready to be calmed down." Williams also was flagged for holding with about seven minutes to play, nullifying a 10-yard gain that set up first-and-goal at the 3. Garrard threw his fourth interception on the next play.
In the exact same situation. Need to make some room soon!I'm struggling with this. We start 2 QBs and can only carry 3 (not including IR). Right now Lefty is still officially listed as questionable so he's still in an IR slot, but I have to decide between dropping him or Pennington probably by next week.Anyone think it would be safe to drop Leftwich?
Leftwich is in Alabama having the ever so famous Dr Andrews take a look at his ankle. I would not expect a change at QB even if Andrews clears Leftwich to play. For now, Garrard has the job and it's his to keep if he plays well. [sTART RUMOR SECTION]There sure seems to be a LOT going on in Jax behinds the scenes. Rumors persist of a serious fued going on between Byron and Del Rio. Byron thinks Jack sold him out and Jack thinks Byron lied to him about the seriousness of his injury. There's a good deal of talk that Byron might just go ahead and have whatever surgery he needs(if any) and ask for a trade in the off season, in spite of being well enough to play.There's also talk that the Postons(Byron's agents) want Byron out of Jacksonville as it is one of the worst markets in the NFL(if not the worst) and Del Rio's ultra-conservative offensive style is in stark contrast to Leftwich's strengths as a QB. The Postons feel the Byron will never get his big payday while saddled with Del Rio's run, run, dink pass offensive philosophy. A move to a team that's more willing to throw it deep often would allow Byron to put up the big numbers and get that big payday. [/END RUMOR SECTION]All signs point to Garrard being the QB for a while unless he totally stinks it up. And even then Leftwich could remove himself from the equation.Bump for any info on a QB change
Hypothetical question. Let's say Garrard keeps the job in Jax all year and Byron is traded in the offseason as a starting QB somewhere. Who has more value at that point? Garrard starting in Jax or Lefty starting elsewhere?