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Gabriel was cut by the Patriots and went back to Oakland.
His post was prior to this.
D'oh. True
Sounds like a pretty sweet deal. I just don't think Jackson has the upside. At this point Johnson's upside is a crapshoot but NE is one of the worst situations for a WR. Talent-wise I think Johnson is quite a ways ahead of Jackson as well.I just traded away Chad Jackson, 1.10 and 2.6 rookie picks in a dynasty league for 1.3 (Calvin Johnson) and 2.3 rookie picks. I'm happy.
The problem with Jackson is no one really knows what his issues were this year although there's plenty of speculation. The Pats have never come out and said what exactly held him back. Locally there have been reports that the injury which kept him out all of camp was nagging throughout the year. There are also reports that he couldn't pick up the offense as well as there being major concerns about his maturity. The issue could be one of these things or my guess is it's a combination of all of them.Here's the bottomline with Jackson. As soon as you see him on the field you can see he has physical tools. That's very apparent. Yet, the Pats were hurting unbelievably at WR this year and had so little faith/trust in him that he was an afterthought. It wasn't like he was playing behind Harrison and Wayne and they could bring him along slowly. The Pats could have used any help they could get at WR and Jackson's number was hardly called outside of a few plays were they tried to use his speed on deep routes. That's not very encouraging.
Ill be watching how they use their first round picks very closely to infer how Jackson is doing. With the deep WR class, surely theyll get a shot one of Bowe/Meachem/Rice/Jarrett/Ginn when their picks come up. I basically agree with the sum of the posts here - Jackson showed in his limited time that his physical tools were impressive, but he also showed that he's raw and has a lot of work to do. His involvement was minimal despite the Pats basically relying on retreads by the end of the year at the WR position, and while other rookie WRs were winning playing time away from WRs that aren't retreads. Whatever is holding Jackson back could be mental, physical or both, but we won't know because the Pats are just that way about internal affairs.I probably wouldnt rank him higher than WR4 out of last year's class right now.
1.8? I think you'd be seeing him drafted in the early-mid 2nd round.
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I don't see people burying Jackson, just saying that his first year was a flop compared to the other rookie WRs, and that he's fallen behind guys drafted after him.The three year window is still in effect, but that doesnt mean that we cant draw informed conclusions based on how their first year went. Do you think we should just ignore the first two years of Troy Williamson's career? Mike Williams? Guys don't have to have Moss/Boldin rookie years, but they should at least be going forward in their development.
As good as Calvin Johnson is/can be, the general consensus has Marshawn Lynch as the #2 dynasty pick this year.That is, in February of this year... things change!Doubt you get CJohnson at 1.03, unless the 1.02 guy lives under a rock.cscmtp said:I just traded away Chad Jackson, 1.10 and 2.6 rookie picks in a dynasty league for 1.3 (Calvin Johnson) and 2.3 rookie picks. I'm happy.
Deion Branch's Rookie Year:Games Played: 13
2nd rounder...
He and LenDale White are two of my top buy low guys right now. Jackson has a good chance to eventually become New England's #1 WR.
Why is there a conception that Jackson has bad hands?If he doesn't work on his hands in the offseason his feet are going to be out of a job within 2 years......
Man, that is so tough to say about a Gator too........other than Travis Taylor, that is.
19 Targets 13 Catches 3TD'sWhy is there a conception that Jackson has bad hands?If he doesn't work on his hands in the offseason his feet are going to be out of a job within 2 years......
Man, that is so tough to say about a Gator too........other than Travis Taylor, that is.
It doesnt matter how talented he is, if he's not where he's supposed to be, when he's supposed to be there, then it's all for naught.
That's easily correctable though...Javon Walker was having some of the same issues his rookie year.Buy Low.
While I agree, I don't see Jackson ever being in the same tier as Walker. Not a true stud, but he'll be a decent WR2 in FF once he learns the playbook and keeps working at it.
I actually think he has the tools to be a #1. I obviously don't think he'll ever be as good as Walker, I used Javon as an example of a player that can have issues with remembering plays, but later excel.
Good point and this is why I hate to draft WR with early 1st round picks in dynasty. Calvin Johnson is being considered at 1.2 in most dynasty leagues...I think it could easily take him 2-3 years to develop in the NFL. I much prefer filling my roster with 5-10 year vets at WR that I know I will get production out of. Lot of WR get drafted high by NFL teams and then they flop.
Drafting a WR that high is certainly a risky proposition.I drafted Keyshawn as a rookie with the #1 overall (dynasty), and while he has been a solid, possession-type, that's not what I thought I was drafting...
Best part of that video is seeing his score, 27, vs Troy Williamson, only 15. LOL. Man his hands are rocks!!!Why is there a conception that Jackson has bad hands?If he doesn't work on his hands in the offseason his feet are going to be out of a job within 2 years......
Man, that is so tough to say about a Gator too........other than Travis Taylor, that is.
"and if the defense jumps off sides, how far is half the distance to the goal from here? Right... not far... it's about this (l l) far... 6 inches"
That 15 score you see is from DeAngelo Williams. Troy Williamson went the year before.cscmtp said:Why is there a conception that Jackson has bad hands?gocats said:If he doesn't work on his hands in the offseason his feet are going to be out of a job within 2 years......
Man, that is so tough to say about a Gator too........other than Travis Taylor, that is.
The only thing holding him back is his offense. I'm not sure if he'll ever develop into a stud WR in NE, but he should be able to fill Deion Branch's role with 800-1000 and 5 TD's and be a borderline #2/#3 fantasy WR.
"and if the defense jumps off sides, how far is half the distance to the goal from here? Right... not far... it's about this (l l) far... 6 inches"
