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Ricky Williams/Priest Holmes (1 Viewer)

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Iron Mike Tomczak

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Ricky Williams, broken bones, smokin bones? any luck with him doing anything for anyone next year?

Personally, I think not. I can see a repeat of stephen davis, latching onto a team and then doing nadda.

Priest Holmes. Is still damn good, if he comes back healthy. Id say much better than Ricky's prospects, but is he still a Chief next year? If so, is he just LJ's glorified backup?

Can either of these guys still produce in the NFL, or more importantly, Will they? Next Year??

Help me out, Im kinda clueless here.

 
Ricky Williams has a lot more gas left in the tank than Stephen Davis.

While he may or may not have any value next year, picking him up in dynasty is a deft move. You could do worse.

Priest is finished.

 
why wouldnt ricky williams be able to return to the form he was in last season? he finished the season very strong and arguably could have taken the starting job im miami had he not been suspended.

hard to say what priest could do. if he stays in kc he's only a back up and at best has goal line value but i dont see why you would take lj out considering how effective he is in that area. priest looked good last year but it was with the best (if not second best) o-line in football.

imo ricky has more value

c mart isnt comming back.

 
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With Ricky its always been about drugs. Now its also about age. Miami insists that they want to bring him back, which means RBBC with Brown. He'd be more promising if he could get traded. He could decide to stay in Canada where he can smoke pot and doesnt have to deal with as much media.

Holmes has been done for a while now. Not because of drugs. Its over for him.

 
I agree with most.

Better to take a flier on a young up and coming RB

instead of these tired, old, injured, marijuana ingesting RBs.

 
Ron_Mexico said:
I agree with most.Better to take a flier on a young up and coming RBinstead of these tired, old, injured, marijuana ingesting RBs.
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While I appreciate your input here, most of the young Up and Comers are long gone in most dynasty leagues.If it's between Ricky Williams and say Kevin Faulk, the upside in Williams is soooo much higher and worth the flier.
 
Kit Fisto said:
Ron_Mexico said:
I agree with most.Better to take a flier on a young up and coming RBinstead of these tired, old, injured, marijuana ingesting RBs.
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While I appreciate your input here, most of the young Up and Comers are long gone in most dynasty leagues.If it's between Ricky Williams and say Kevin Faulk, the upside in Williams is soooo much higher and worth the flier.
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Kevin Faulk isn't exactly who I had in mind.Musa SmithMichael RobinsonTyson ThompsonDamien NashJJ ArringtonRyan MoatsCedric HoustonI would take any of these RBs over Holmes or RWilliams.
 
If Priest is a Chief, he has no value. 2nd best RB in the game in front of him and about 6 or 7 years younger and stroger and faster.

RW could have have value back in Miami. Has R. Brown just blown up since Ricky is out of the picture? Nope, he didn't. I could see Ricky pulling the Corey Dillon role in Miami next year. If he wants to give it a try.

 
Still think Williams' ego will force him to come back to the NFL and have at least one more good season, regardless of what he says about his new found "lack of ego". The guy is a gladiator on the field, and is all about performing when he is focused on the game.

 
Ron_Mexico said:
Kit Fisto said:
Ron_Mexico said:
I agree with most.Better to take a flier on a young up and coming RBinstead of these tired, old, injured, marijuana ingesting RBs.
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While I appreciate your input here, most of the young Up and Comers are long gone in most dynasty leagues.If it's between Ricky Williams and say Kevin Faulk, the upside in Williams is soooo much higher and worth the flier.
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Kevin Faulk isn't exactly who I had in mind.Musa SmithMichael RobinsonTyson ThompsonDamien NashJJ ArringtonRyan MoatsCedric HoustonI would take any of these RBs over Holmes or RWilliams.
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I just got Ricky Williams as a throw-in in a 12 team dynasty league. Musa Smith is the only one on that list would would even make me hesitate at all in a straight up deal.I'm not saying I necessarily expect Ricky to return, but if he does, I have much more faith in him being a contributor than any of those other guys.
 
At least Williams can get cleared to play. Priest has not been able to get medical clearance in over a year, and I doubt waiting another year will suddenly change his condition. Not sure a 34-year-old RB with a severe medical issue that hasn't played in almost two years will be in very much demand.

 
David Yudkin said:
At least Williams can get cleared to play. Priest has not been able to get medical clearance in over a year, and I doubt waiting another year will suddenly change his condition. Not sure a 34-year-old RB with a severe medical issue that hasn't played in almost two years will be in very much demand.
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AMENPriest is done.....I have said that for over a year.
 
Houston and Musa Smith are the only two of those "up and comers" worth a durn.

Robinson was demoted to 3rd String.

Tyson Thompson has been on the IR for weeks.

Moats is nothin.

 
Ron_Mexico said:
Kit Fisto said:
Ron_Mexico said:
I agree with most.Better to take a flier on a young up and coming RBinstead of these tired, old, injured, marijuana ingesting RBs.
Click to expand...
While I appreciate your input here, most of the young Up and Comers are long gone in most dynasty leagues.If it's between Ricky Williams and say Kevin Faulk, the upside in Williams is soooo much higher and worth the flier.
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Kevin Faulk isn't exactly who I had in mind.Musa SmithMichael RobinsonTyson ThompsonDamien NashJJ ArringtonRyan MoatsCedric HoustonI would take any of these RBs over Holmes or RWilliams.
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Smith, Arrington, Moats and Houston are all long gone in most dynasty leagues, at least the leagues I play in. :rolleyes: And I'd much rather take a flier on Williams than guys like Thompson, Michael Robinson or Nash.
 
Arrington and Moats are there in my league. Moats doesnt get any looks in Philly, i live out here and hes never in the games. Arrington will never play as long as Edge is there. He may one day become a 3rd down back....but that doesnt really excite me much....third down back for arizona is like being an assistant crack whore.

At the same time Williams is kind of a risk. But i like the risk/reward turnout with having Williams if he could start somewhere next year.

 
I recall some trade discussions between Miami and Denver before Ricky was suspended.

Low probability that he returns AND is in a good situation, but if you have an unused roster spot, its worth a shot.

 
Kit Fisto said:
If it's between Ricky Williams and say Kevin Faulk, the upside in Williams is soooo much higher and worth the flier.
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:lmao: Pun intended?

Anyway, I see Williams as possibly taking the reigns back over in Miami. Ronnie Brown has been up and down. At the least he gets 10 - 15 carries a game.

Priest? Let's put it this way...I'm in KC, Priest has been in Texas taking care of "baby momma dramas". I don't even think he's been training (not that he can do too much with his type of injury). But I think the Chiefs are keeping him on the PUP list instead of cutting him just because of what he's meant to the team. Besides...isn't Priest gonna be like 32 or 33 next year? That's off the cliff for RB's. And I think it would cause tension if they took away goalline touches from LJ.

 
TitusIII said:
Still think Williams' ego will force him to come back to the NFL and have at least one more good season, regardless of what he says about his new found "lack of ego". The guy is a gladiator on the field, and is all about performing when he is focused on the game.
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:goodposting: Williams was on the rise in Miami last year before the suspension, and was a Dolphins locker room leader (no small feat, considering how reviled he was after the whole retirement fiasco). He was playing hard and outplaying Brown. I think he represents a great value pick next year. His adp should be low, yet he could blow up in the right situation.
 
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I picked Ricky up today, considering him for next season. We're allowed to keep 2 players. I plan to keep Williams, JP Losman, and Antonio Bryant. Out of those 3 I need to determine one who is useless. It very well may be Ricky Williams, but I figured Id pick him up as I think about it. IF he returns to Miami, which I think he will, its not unreasonable to think he could produce. IF he passes his drug tests.....its an iffy situation, Ill say that.

 
I think the risk on Rasta Ricky is much higher than most people see. There is a lot of talk (from Ricky & the local Canadian media) about staying in the CFL next year. I'm a seasons ticket holder in Vancouver and I follow the CFL pretty closely and to be honest Williams really didnt look that good last season. Everyone expected him to be running over our smaller DL's and LB's and hitting the bigger holes decicively but to be honest he really looked like a subpar back.

Remember, we have no less than 4 WR on every snap and most of them are at full spead before the snap which totally spreads out the D. We also pass way more than we run which causes defenders to think pass before run all the time. Holes are huge and are open forever.

Of the 7 guys with 100 or more carries Williams was tied for last in ypc. Of the same 7 He was also last in TD's with only 2. - Not the dominant back people expected him to be.

Maybe it was an issue of motivation? All I know is I would take a shot at a bunch of other backs before I'd even consider rostering Ricky.

 
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J-Rock said:
I think the risk on Rasta Ricky is much higher than most people see. There is a lot of talk (from Ricky & the local Canadian media) about staying in the CFL next year. I'm a seasons ticket holder in Vancouver and I follow the CFL pretty closely and to be honest Williams really didnt look that good last season. Everyone expected him to be running over our smaller DL's and LB's and hitting the bigger holes decicively but to be honest he really looked like a subpar back. Remember, we have no less than 4 WR on every snap and most of them are at full spead before the snap which totally spreads out the D. We also pass way more than we run which causes defenders to think pass before run all the time. Holes are huge and are open forever.Of the 7 guys with 100 or more carries Williams was tied for last in ypc. Of the same 7 He was also last in TD's with only 2. - Not the dominant back people expected him to be.Maybe it was an issue of motivation? All I know is I would take a shot at a bunch of other backs before I'd even consider rostering Ricky.
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Williams is still under contract to the Dolphins, so he'd have to somehow get out of his contract. I'm pretty sure the Phins won't just let him walk away seeing how he still owes them MILLIONS of dollars from his signing bonus that he had to pay back when he "retired."
 
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