Dynasty Qb #7 Ranking (1 Viewer)

These are consensus dynasty rankings for year 2007

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I like the chatter lets keep that going as we vote.

gheemony made a great point about one way to consider dynasty value for players in rankings by giving 50% value to 2007, 33% to 2008, and 17% to 2009. I know there are many ways to look at this and how hard it is to project for players even for one year. But I think it is significant enough that its worth mentioning. I am sure everyone has a different formula that they might use. But this one to me has some good balance and makes a lot of sense. And honestly probobly should be a topic of discussion in itself but thats another thread. For now just somthing to take into consideration.

Link to poll # http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=292933

The vote was too close to decide between Michael Vick and Philip Rivers. So this poll will determine the winner.

1. Peyton Manning

2. Carson Palmer

3. Tom Brady

4. Drew Brees

5. Donovan McNabb

6. Matt Hasselbeck

I am not a fan of Michael Vick. He is such an injury risk because of his playing style. I worry about the longevity of his career even though he is only 26 years old right now.Vick has been in the league for 6 seasons allready and he still has not developed into a Qb who can stay in the pocket and deliver the ball as other mobile Qbs have done before him. I wonder if he can? Or ever will? I find myself still asking the same questions about him as I did before he came into the NFL and the answer is still no. If he did that would change my opinion and perspective of him greatly.Vick much like Doug Flutie is short for a Qb and has difficulty seeing over the line is part of the reason I think he does not stay in the pocket. Beyond his obviously exceptional ability to run with the ball.This year Vicks numbers have been very consistent for a change as shown in the link posted by s_ezy. However that has not been the case with him in the past and I don't know that it will be with him moving forward. He is a player who makes me nervous to start any given week because you just don't know if he will be successful running the ball enough, if he will throw for any kind of decent yardage if he doesen't or even if he will make it through the game.I definitly would not feel comfortable with Vick as my top Qb. I would always feel the need to have a very solid Qb #2 that can always start for me because of the risk that comes with Vick.Perhaps I am looking at him all wrong. Maybe I should just view him as a Rb that gets to run a ton of trick plays. If only Vick were as accurate a passer as LT is. But I have to play him from the Qb slot. If I do look at him that way then he should have a decent chance to be solid for another 4 years before his rushing abilities begin to decline. And that is still plenty of time for Dynasty. What will happen with him when he loses his escapability.. even a slight decline I dunno if a team would still be able to start him then since he is not learning how to stay in the pocket and deliver the ball.Vicks numbers:

| Passing | Rushing |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+| Year TM | G | Comp Att PCT YD Y/A TD INT | Att Yards TD |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+| 2001 atl | 8 | 50 113 44.2 785 6.9 2 3 | 29 300 1 || 2002 atl | 15 | 231 421 54.9 2936 7.0 16 8 | 113 777 8 || 2003 atl | 5 | 50 100 50.0 585 5.8 4 3 | 40 255 1 || 2004 atl | 15 | 181 321 56.4 2313 7.2 14 12 | 120 902 3 || 2005 atl | 15 | 214 387 55.3 2412 6.2 15 13 | 102 597 6 || 2006 atl | 12 | 158 308 51.3 1892 6.1 15 9 | 105 929 2 |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+| TOTAL | 70 | 884 1650 53.6 10923 6.6 66 48 | 509 3760 21 |+----------+-----+---------------------------------------+-----------------+

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Vick is on pace to run for 1239 yards this season. The best he has ever done. He is averaging 77.4 rushing yards/game this year and that is why his numbers have been consistent. No team has stopped him from rushing for good numbers this year. Pittsburgh held him to 40 yards rushing. His worst rushing game this year. But in that same game Vick threw 4 TD passes. He did have 2 games in a row there where he was an effective passer which made me and I am sure others wonder if he had turned the corner as a passer?But after those 2 games he followed it up with substandard passing numbers again.det 17 32 163 1 2 cle 16 40 197 1 2 bal 11 21 127 1 0 nor 9 24 84 0 0 I know there has been talk about Atlantas Wrs dropping a lot of passes. But one has to wonder how Atlanta Wrs can develop timing or chemisty with Vick in the passing game when it doesen't have a rhythm they can grow accostomed to as far as how they run thier routes, when they make thier breaks and when they can be expecting the ball. I think it stunts the development of thier rookie Wrs. The free agents that Atlanta has brought in are not great hands players. Vick might be better served if they brought in possesion type Wrs who are good blockers instead of speed Wrs with questionable hands. I don't know.It's hard for me to see Vick being able to keep running the ball like this and stay healthy though.That being said I would still vote for him over Rivers. But there are other Qbs still available that I would take over either of them.

bump for more votes.

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I think Rivers has more upside than Vick. Vick's injury potential, weak receiving corp, and Atlanta's emphasis on the run puts him behind Rivers.

almost equal. (BUMP)

I like Vic only because i aquired him in a trade in our dynasty league. I think it is pretty close though.

I think they are both better than Hassleback

Bia asked me to take these for a week or so... I'll let this one go to either 5 votes of separation when I check, or 150 votes - whichever comes first.

Results:

Michael Vick [ 53 ] ** [47.75%]

Philip Rivers [ 58 ] ** [52.25%]

Rivers wins.