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post-game TO: get me involved early! (1 Viewer)

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just listened to TO on the Cowboys post-game radio show, and his justification for dropping passes was that they didn't get him involved early enough. paraphrasing him, he basically said 'if you don't get me the ball early, how can you expect me to catch it late?'

what a #####.

 
Marc Faletti said:
just listened to TO on the Cowboys post-game radio show, and his justification for dropping passes was that they didn't get him involved early enough. paraphrasing him, he basically said 'if you don't get me the ball early, how can you expect me to catch it late?'what a #####.
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:banned: His hand/finger problems were a major reason, IMO. Surprised he didn't use that excuse? He clearly couldn't catch with his hands that well.
 
Someone in the media raised it, and he blew it off the way most good pros do when you raise the injury issue as a justification for poor performance. He's tough in that regard -- physically, I mean. It just didn't make it all the way to the dude's brain.

 
Like Madden said, he's been dropping passes his entire career. Maybe it is that he's thinking too much about what he's going to do after he catches it. Dunno. But this has to be one of the lamest excuses ever.

 
uhh, it was on the radio, and i wasn't presently on the site. doing the best i could, and made it clear i was paraphrasing.

 
Wheelhouse said:
Marc Faletti said:
just listened to TO on the Cowboys post-game radio show, and his justification for dropping passes was that they didn't get him involved early enough. paraphrasing him, he basically said 'if you don't get me the ball early, how can you expect me to catch it late?'what a #####.
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:thumbup: His hand/finger problems were a major reason, IMO. Surprised he didn't use that excuse? He clearly couldn't catch with his hands that well.
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Bull#### IMO
 
SOmojo said:
rather than paraphrase, just quote what he actually said.....
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we'll leave it to you to quote directly by sitting at your radio/tv with a tape recorder, then transcribing it so you get it word for word. of course, unless you actually see or hear an interview, what you're getting is a paraphrase from a reporter. just because it has quote marks around it doesn't make it verbatim.
 
I've written it before and I'm sure I will again. You can take the TO out of tool but you can't take the tool out of TO. He will always make excuses and never take responsibility for negative things he does.

 
Here's the quote:

"I just feel like I'm not involved early in the game," Owens said. "Everybody knows that's what I do. Every team that I've played on, I've been involved early and often. It's hard to get in the flow when you're getting a ball here, a ball there."

"Late in the game, they start throwing to me," Owens said. "By that time, it's too late. I'm giving full effort. I want to be involved."
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Excuses, excuses...And I'm still not convinced the finger injury is even valid. Consider that his head coach denies any knowledge of the injury, and that Owens never even hinted at any injury during his sit-down with Michael Irvin last week.

 
Despyzer said:
Here's the quote:

"I just feel like I'm not involved early in the game," Owens said. "Everybody knows that's what I do. Every team that I've played on, I've been involved early and often. It's hard to get in the flow when you're getting a ball here, a ball there."

"Late in the game, they start throwing to me," Owens said. "By that time, it's too late. I'm giving full effort. I want to be involved."
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Here's the translation: "We lost. I'm going to blame others on my team."
 
Despyzer said:
Here's the quote:

"I just feel like I'm not involved early in the game," Owens said. "Everybody knows that's what I do. Every team that I've played on, I've been involved early and often. It's hard to get in the flow when you're getting a ball here, a ball there."

"Late in the game, they start throwing to me," Owens said. "By that time, it's too late. I'm giving full effort. I want to be involved."
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Excuses, excuses...And I'm still not convinced the finger injury is even valid. Consider that his head coach denies any knowledge of the injury, and that Owens never even hinted at any injury during his sit-down with Michael Irvin last week.
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I think that the finger is lame excuse (no pun). He has 9 other healthy fingers. For the most part these are not drops of what would have-been stretching one-handed grabs. These drops are balls that he get 2 hands on and can craddle right into his chest. Most WRs in the league can make that adjustment with a bad finger
 
Wilbur Wood said:
Despyzer said:
Here's the quote:

"I just feel like I'm not involved early in the game," Owens said. "Everybody knows that's what I do. Every team that I've played on, I've been involved early and often. It's hard to get in the flow when you're getting a ball here, a ball there."

"Late in the game, they start throwing to me," Owens said. "By that time, it's too late. I'm giving full effort. I want to be involved."
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Excuses, excuses...And I'm still not convinced the finger injury is even valid. Consider that his head coach denies any knowledge of the injury, and that Owens never even hinted at any injury during his sit-down with Michael Irvin last week.
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I think that the finger is lame excuse (no pun). He has 9 other healthy fingers. For the most part these are not drops of what would have-been stretching one-handed grabs. These drops are balls that he get 2 hands on and can craddle right into his chest. Most WRs in the league can make that adjustment with a bad finger
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Ah but most wide receivers aren't saddled with coaches and a QB ignorant and deficient enough to not recognize the greatness they have at WR. See, if they only catered their gameplan towards feeding the ball 20 times to him then his 2-3 drops per game would be a lower percentage of his targets and he wouldn't have to blame them so much. But hey, for the record, he didn't actually say that it was the coaches' fault, just hinted at it. And if he doesn't actually SAY the words then he didn't actually say it. You dig? Although he was muttering something under his breath about Carrie Underwood being some kind of Mallard decoy. Quack quack.
 
Marc Faletti said:
Someone in the media raised it, and he blew it off the way most good pros do when you raise the injury issue as a justification for poor performance. He's tough in that regard -- physically, I mean. It just didn't make it all the way to the dude's brain.
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LOL...it's not because he's tough...it's because saying it was the injury means TO would be blaming something on himself. He would much rather blame others and why not blame the coaches for not throwing him the ball early? He'd be more of a good Pro if he just caught the ball when it was thrown to him but when you have a 2 cent head and lose concentration if the ball isn't thrown to you in the first 30 seconds...
 
dallas did nothing in the first quarter, but that credit goes to the Eagles

they had the ball for 7 minutes of the quarter

TO was targeted 3 times in the second quarter including catching a touchdown

TO was targeted 5 times in the second half with zero receptions

 
With all his "shortcomings" TO was still good for 2nd amongst the WR's in my league. :goodposting:

 
Wheelhouse said:
Marc Faletti said:
just listened to TO on the Cowboys post-game radio show, and his justification for dropping passes was that they didn't get him involved early enough. paraphrasing him, he basically said 'if you don't get me the ball early, how can you expect me to catch it late?'

what a #####.
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:goodposting: His hand/finger problems were a major reason, IMO. Surprised he didn't use that excuse? He clearly couldn't catch with his hands that well.
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This has always been the case.
 
I hate TO and everything, but to be fair, how is this him "making excuses"? I see the quote of exactly what he said, and I heard it on ESPN radio this morning too, but nobody here has posted what the QUESTION was - did someone ask him about his drops? Because if not, he's not "making excuses" - he's doing the typical run-of-the-mill "#####ing about his team." Which is quite different.

 
mad sweeney said:
Wilbur Wood said:
Despyzer said:
Here's the quote:

"I just feel like I'm not involved early in the game," Owens said. "Everybody knows that's what I do. Every team that I've played on, I've been involved early and often. It's hard to get in the flow when you're getting a ball here, a ball there."

"Late in the game, they start throwing to me," Owens said. "By that time, it's too late. I'm giving full effort. I want to be involved."
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Excuses, excuses...And I'm still not convinced the finger injury is even valid. Consider that his head coach denies any knowledge of the injury, and that Owens never even hinted at any injury during his sit-down with Michael Irvin last week.
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I think that the finger is lame excuse (no pun). He has 9 other healthy fingers. For the most part these are not drops of what would have-been stretching one-handed grabs. These drops are balls that he get 2 hands on and can craddle right into his chest. Most WRs in the league can make that adjustment with a bad finger
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Ah but most wide receivers aren't saddled with coaches and a QB ignorant and deficient enough to not recognize the greatness they have at WR. See, if they only catered their gameplan towards feeding the ball 20 times to him then his 2-3 drops per game would be a lower percentage of his targets and he wouldn't have to blame them so much. But hey, for the record, he didn't actually say that it was the coaches' fault, just hinted at it. And if he doesn't actually SAY the words then he didn't actually say it. You dig? Although he was muttering something under his breath about Carrie Underwood being some kind of Mallard decoy. Quack quack.
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Anyone remember the "Randy Ratio"? That worked out well :goodposting:
 
JetsWillWin said:
I hate TO and everything, but to be fair, how is this him "making excuses"? I see the quote of exactly what he said, and I heard it on ESPN radio this morning too, but nobody here has posted what the QUESTION was - did someone ask him about his drops? Because if not, he's not "making excuses" - he's doing the typical run-of-the-mill "#####ing about his team." Which is quite different.
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How is that better?
 
I'm surpirsed they don't design every single play to go to TO.

I guess the Cowboys simply aren't that interested in winning the Super Bowl.

 
Despyzer said:
JetsWillWin said:
I hate TO and everything, but to be fair, how is this him "making excuses"? I see the quote of exactly what he said, and I heard it on ESPN radio this morning too, but nobody here has posted what the QUESTION was - did someone ask him about his drops? Because if not, he's not "making excuses" - he's doing the typical run-of-the-mill "#####ing about his team." Which is quite different.
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How is that better?
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Not saying it is.
 
#### him. he's the douchiest ######## that's ever douched. he and chris chambers must shop at the same mall for their stone mittens.

on another note, can we please stop posting on TO? yes, this is hypocritical, but i'm trying to be an activist for ignoring him from this moment forward. i hate him, you hate him, donovan hates him, jeff garcia hates him, parcells hates him, ok we get it. lets move on. he can't catch. end of story.

 
baronson said:
on another note, can we please stop posting on TO? yes, this is hypocritical, but i'm trying to be an activist for ignoring him from this moment forward. i hate him, you hate him, donovan hates him, jeff garcia hates him, parcells hates him, ok we get it. lets move on. he can't catch. end of story.
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Some of us enjoy our hating. Don't rain on our parade.
 
baronson said:
#### him. he's the douchiest ######## that's ever douched. he and chris chambers must shop at the same mall for their stone mittens.on another note, can we please stop posting on TO? yes, this is hypocritical, but i'm trying to be an activist for ignoring him from this moment forward. i hate him, you hate him, donovan hates him, jeff garcia hates him, parcells hates him, ok we get it. lets move on. he can't catch. end of story.
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I bet a lot of Baltimore Ravens hate him too.
 
StormChasers said:
Marc Faletti said:
Someone in the media raised it, and he blew it off the way most good pros do when you raise the injury issue as a justification for poor performance. He's tough in that regard -- physically, I mean. It just didn't make it all the way to the dude's brain.
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LOL...it's not because he's tough...it's because saying it was the injury means TO would be blaming something on himself. He would much rather blame others and why not blame the coaches for not throwing him the ball early? He'd be more of a good Pro if he just caught the ball when it was thrown to him but when you have a 2 cent head and lose concentration if the ball isn't thrown to you in the first 30 seconds...
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Plus this way he can say "I played through injuries and never used that as an excuse"He's just being TO(ol)
 
JetsWillWin said:
I hate TO and everything, but to be fair, how is this him "making excuses"? I see the quote of exactly what he said, and I heard it on ESPN radio this morning too, but nobody here has posted what the QUESTION was - did someone ask him about his drops? Because if not, he's not "making excuses" - he's doing the typical run-of-the-mill "#####ing about his team." Which is quite different.
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:potkettle:He's not making excuses. He's just being TO(ol).From now on, all I need to post is "TO(" and you know what that means. © pending on "TO("
 
baronson said:
#### him. he's the douchiest ######## that's ever douched. he and chris chambers must shop at the same mall for their stone mittens.on another note, can we please stop posting on TO? yes, this is hypocritical, but i'm trying to be an activist for ignoring him from this moment forward. i hate him, you hate him, donovan hates him, jeff garcia hates him, parcells hates him, ok we get it. lets move on. he can't catch. end of story.
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Now THAT is an awful lot of wasted emotion going on there. :loco: "Fists of Stone" still has managed to:...lead all recievers with 12 touchdowns...presently rank #12 in recieving yards...a handful of yards outside the top 10...presently rank #12 in receptions...just a couple of dropped passes outside the top 10...take the #2 spot at WR in my league on my championship teamThis despite it being his first season with Dallas, a new non-west coast offense, 2 QB's, and a broken finger......all excuses in your book. Does he get the dropsies? Yes he does...and if he didn't have such a big yap, I'm sure your FF judgement wouldn't be so clouded. Nobody is suggesting that you date him.Hate on. :banned:
 
glock said:
Does he get the dropsies? Yes he does...
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If it were just drops, that'd be one thing.He did less than nothing to prevent Romo's INT in the end zone. If he stuck a hand in there and/or adjusted to the ball, he'd have probably broke up the INT.And this B.S. about not being involved early? He dropped two or three early targets and caught a first quarter TD pass.It's not his mouth that gives me problems - it's his play.
 
Wheelhouse said:
Marc Faletti said:
just listened to TO on the Cowboys post-game radio show, and his justification for dropping passes was that they didn't get him involved early enough. paraphrasing him, he basically said 'if you don't get me the ball early, how can you expect me to catch it late?'what a #####.
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:banned: His hand/finger problems were a major reason, IMO. Surprised he didn't use that excuse? He clearly couldn't catch with his hands that well.
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He has always used his body to catch passes. That's why he has so many drops.
 
Marc Levin said:
glock said:
Does he get the dropsies? Yes he does...
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If it were just drops, that'd be one thing.He did less than nothing to prevent Romo's INT in the end zone. If he stuck a hand in there and/or adjusted to the ball, he'd have probably broke up the INT.And this B.S. about not being involved early? He dropped two or three early targets and caught a first quarter TD pass.It's not his mouth that gives me problems - it's his play.
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Okay. We all know TO would like the universe to revolve around him. That being said, are you perturbed at him in your role as......a Dallas Cowboy fan...an NFL fan...or a fantasy football owner? :banned:
 
Marc Levin said:
He did less than nothing to prevent Romo's INT in the end zone. If he stuck a hand in there and/or adjusted to the ball, he'd have probably broke up the INT.
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You're right about that. He just stood there like a bystander.
And this B.S. about not being involved early? He dropped two or three early targets and caught a first quarter TD pass.
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According to NFL.com these were his targets:1st quarter

none

2nd quarter

(4:38) T.Romo pass short right to T.Owens to DAL 40 for 9 yards (J.Trotter). Curl right sideline.

(2:29) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass incomplete deep left to T.Owens.

PENALTY on PHI-R.Hood, Illegal Contact, 5 yards, enforced at DAL 42 - No Play. Pass incomplete to Owens at the Philadelphia 30 left sideline.

(:44) T.Romo pass short middle to T.Owens for 14 yards, TOUCHDOWN. Owens caught pass seven yards deep in back of end zone.

3rd quarter

(9:44) T.Romo pass incomplete deep left to T.Owens.

(9:38) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass incomplete deep left to T.Owens. Pass incomplete on fly pattern left sideline at the Philadelphia 21.

4th quarter

(14:03) T.Romo pass deep left intended for T.Owens INTERCEPTED by B.Dawkins at PHI -7. Touchback.

(3:08) T.Romo pass incomplete to T.Owens.

(3:07) (Shotgun) T.Romo pass incomplete to T.Owens. Pass thrown left sideline; incomplete at the Philadelphia 41; Hood closest defender.

 
glock said:
Okay. We all know TO would like the universe to revolve around him. That being said, are you perturbed at him in your role as......a Dallas Cowboy fan
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Couldn't care less about the 'boys
...an NFL fan
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:bye: 110 percent on this - he is horrendous for the league both as a player and as a mouth.
...or a fantasy football owner? :banned:
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Own him nowhere so I'm not sure what the query is here.
 
If I was Romo I'd call him out. I'd say something like "he get's his touches like everyone else, he just happens to drop them". Romo is walking on water in Dallas right now and he could get away with calling that POS Owens out.

 
DPRugby said:
If I was Romo I'd call him out. I'd say something like "he get's his touches like everyone else, he just happens to drop them". Romo is walking on water in Dallas right now and he could get away with calling that POS Owens out.
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:lmao: I'd pay money to see that take place. That may be enough to send TO into the spiral that could end his pathetic career.
 
Marc Levin said:
glock said:
Okay. We all know TO would like the universe to revolve around him. That being said, are you perturbed at him in your role as......a Dallas Cowboy fan
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Couldn't care less about the 'boys
...an NFL fan
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:yes: 110 percent on this - he is horrendous for the league both as a player and as a mouth.
...or a fantasy football owner? :goodposting:
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Own him nowhere so I'm not sure what the query is here.
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Just that that's why we're here...and why he was on my roster. Hate all you want- he's a playa.
 
Fla\/\/ed said:
DPRugby said:
If I was Romo I'd call him out. I'd say something like "he get's his touches like everyone else, he just happens to drop them". Romo is walking on water in Dallas right now and he could get away with calling that POS Owens out.
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:goodposting: I'd pay money to see that take place. That may be enough to send TO into the spiral that could end his pathetic career.
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:yes: THAT'S pathetic...
 
glock said:
Just that that's why we're here...and why he was on my roster. Hate all you want- he's a playa.
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This does not compute with me - this is, above everything else, an NFL information board. And, IMO, he's a crappy NFL player who catches an inordinate number of TDs. The ACF and the bragging threads are for folks to puff their chests about how great TO is for their individual fantasy team.
 
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