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***The rookie hype has begun*** (1 Viewer)

Biabreakable

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I sent out some feelers to guage what owners are looking for in return for the top 3 rookie picks in some dynasty leagues I'm in.

Master list of replies:

Pick 1.01- Reggie Wayne and Tom Brady would get me to thinking about letting him go.

Pick 1.02-Cedric Benson and Darrell Jackson. Let me know.

Javon Walker for pick 1.02 Campbell, Jason WAS QB;Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB;Johnson, Keyshawn CAR WR

Bell, Mike DEN RB;Bruce, Isaac STL WR;Schweigert, Stuart OAK S pick 1.02 for Wayne, Reggie IND WR;Dawkins, Brian PHI S

Bell, Mike DEN RB;Henry, Chris CIN WR pick 1.02 for Holt, Torry STL WR;Crowder, Channing MIA LB 4th round pick 07.

DeAngelo Williams for pick 1.01 or 1.02

Willis McGahee for pick 1.02 or 1.03

TO for 1.03

Top 5 Wr for pick 1.02

Qb Tony Romo and TO for pick 1.01

Qb Tony Romo Hines Ward and pick 2.05 for pick 1.01

Picks 1.06 and 1.12 for 1.03

Picks 1.07 and 1.09 for 1.01

Pick 1.01 for Vincent Jackson, Greg Jennings, and Matt Jones.

Chad Johnson for just the 1.3 pick

Kevin Jones (damaged goods) in a PPR league for the 1.01

CJ for 1.02 and 1.03

Harrison for 1.03

Anyone else sent out feelers for these picks yet? What were the replies?

Deals made:

team A): will give up:

Holt, Torry STL WR

Crowder, Channing MIA LB

Year 2007 Round 2 Draft Pick (2.11)

Year 2008 Round 3 Draft Pick

Year 2008 Round 4 Draft Pick

(team B) will give up:

Calhoun, Brian DET RB

Curtis, Kevin STL WR

Year 2007 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.06)

Year 2007 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.02)

Team A gives:

WR Jones, Jac

PK Gostkowski, NE

LB Howard, Oak

2007 Rookie Pick 1.12

2007 Rookie Pick 2.9

2007 Rookie Pick 3.9

2007 Rookie Pick 3.12

for

2007 Rookie Pick 1.02

Team A gives:

Wayne, Reggie IND WR

Year 2007 Round 1.07 Draft Pick

Year 2007 Round 3.06 Draft Pick

for

Year 2007 Round 1.01 Draft Pick

Year 2007 Round 2.01 Draft Pick

Some minimal free agency cash.

ETA- http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=290962&hl=

The last 2 rookie Rbs since Portis to make a significant impact at the Rb position have been Domanic Davis and MJD. Darkhorse Rbs who often times were still available in the 2nd round of rookie drafts. Yet Peterson and Lynch are predestined to be bonifide super stars without even knowing which teams may pick them. MJD Bush and Addai have broken this trend now though and so I need to add this to that topic.

*edited again to add offers brought up in thread to master list.

 
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Those replies are rediculous and must have been sent by morons. I would take Cedric Benson over ANY of next years rookie RBs.

 
I think Bush would be included along with MJD as far as making noise as a rookie. In PPR leagues, LJD is 7th and Bush is 9th. Addai is 12th.

Back to the topic, I agree those requests are way off and are asking for an awful lot. I already own AP (we draft 1 college player), but I am not sure what I would ask for him.

 
Recent "top-tier" rookie RB prospects:

Willis McGahee

Larry Johnson

Kevin Jones

Steven Jackson

Carnell Williams

Ronnie Brown

Cedric Benson

Reggie Bush

Lawrence Maroney

DeAngelo Williams

Recent "second tier" RB prospects

Tatum Bell

Chris Perry

Frank Gore

Maurice Jones-Drew (maybe third tier)

That's a pretty good track record in the top tier. I think it's pretty hard to find the diamonds in the rough (MJD, Gore), but the top picks are usually pretty valuable.

I would personally be happy to trade Reggie Wayne and Tom Brady for Adrian Peterson. They are solid players who can round out a good team, but a stud RB can single-handedly win championships.

 
The Man Who Met Andy Griffith said:
Recent "top-tier" rookie RB prospects:

Willis McGahee

Larry Johnson

Kevin Jones

Steven Jackson

Carnell Williams

Ronnie Brown

Cedric Benson

Reggie Bush

Lawrence Maroney

DeAngelo Williams

Recent "second tier" RB prospects

Tatum Bell

Chris Perry

Frank Gore

Maurice Jones-Drew (maybe third tier)

That's a pretty good track record in the top tier. I think it's pretty hard to find the diamonds in the rough (MJD, Gore), but the top picks are usually pretty valuable.

I would personally be happy to trade Reggie Wayne and Tom Brady for Adrian Peterson. They are solid players who can round out a good team , but a stud RB can single-handedly win championships.
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QB#6 and WR#3 hardly players that "round-out" a team. However, I will say this. When I have a top, we'll say 3 or so for simplicity sake, I wouldn't trade until situations are settled with teams. Now if I'm trading for a top 3 pick I like to do so before the draft. All that being said I usually hold a pretty high ransom for high picks seeing as I have a high pick for a reason usually.

 
Peterson was recently voted the #17 RB in dynasty leagues. According to these polls, he (or the 1.01) has about the same value of McGahee, Jones-Drew or Caddy.

 
jeter23 said:
Peterson was recently voted the #17 RB in dynasty leagues. According to these polls, he (or the 1.01) has about the same value of McGahee, Jones-Drew or Caddy.
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I disagree with the poll results. I happen to think Peterson is a top 10 RB and probably worth as much, or more than, any rb no named: LT, LJ, SJax, Portis, Alexander, Bush (in ppr), and Westbrook.
 
Bojang0301 said:
QB#6 and WR#3 hardly players that "round-out" a team. However, I will say this. When I have a top, we'll say 3 or so for simplicity sake, I wouldn't trade until situations are settled with teams. Now if I'm trading for a top 3 pick I like to do so before the draft.
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QB #6 is by definition an average QB1. In one of my leagues, Brady outscored QB16 (Losman) by as many points (34) as RB6 (Parker) outscored RB7 (MJD). By the way that's also the amount by which Wayne outscored WR16 (Coles).WR #3 is obviously more valuable than QB #6, but IMO a lot less valuable than a young top 12 dynasty RB. I would put AD in that category (although I know that he went a little lower in the recent rankings).It depends a lot in PPR vs. non-PPR. In non-PPR, this trade is at least fair to the person acquiring 1.01, and probably in their favor.
 
Biabreakable said:
I sent out some feelers to guage what owners are looking for in return for the top 3 rookie picks in some dynasty leagues I'm in. Here are some replies. :kicksrock:

Pick 1.01- Reggie Wayne and Tom Brady would get me to thinking about letting him go.

Pick 1.02-Cedric Benson and Darrell Jackson. Let me know.

Anyone else sent out feelers for these picks yet? What were the replies?

I am very amused by this. :)

ETA- http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=290962&hl=

The last 2 rookie Rbs since Portis to make a significant impact at the Rb position have been Domanic Davis and MJD. Darkhorse Rbs who often times were still available in the 2nd round of rookie drafts. Yet Peterson and Lynch are predestined to be bonifide super stars without even knowing which teams may pick them.

*edited again for gramatical errors coz I was laughing too hard writing 1st post.
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IF you had the number one overall pick this year, what would you trade it for? I don't think that offer is that bad as a starting point. Brady is a below average starting QB in 12 team league. His end of year fantasy totals including this year 7,2,10,11 and 9. He is worth slightly more that that because he is consistant and in no danger of losing his job. Wayne this year is a top wr. Prior to this year, his end of year ff rankings have been 21, 8, and 20. So if someone sends a feeler for what the top pick is, and the starting reply for negotiations is a 28 year old wr1, who previously was a wr2 and a below average QB1, I really don't see the big deal.

 
dgreen said:
Who are the early favorites for the top three picks?
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Adrian Peterson, RB, OklahomaMarshawn Lynch, RB, CaliforniaCalvin Johnson, WR, Georgia TechI don't expect this to change between now and the summer.If you want to get any of these picks from their owners, my advice is to create a large package of useful players - say 3-4 ranked somewhere between 50-100 at need positions. Don't shy away from giving up youth either, or tossing in your later first this year - the dropoff is steep.
 
jeter23 said:
Peterson was recently voted the #17 RB in dynasty leagues. According to these polls, he (or the 1.01) has about the same value of McGahee, Jones-Drew or Caddy.
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I am thinking about offering McGahee for the #2 or #3 pick myself. I am still not sure if thats a good move or if they would do it.
 
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Sigmund Bloom said:
dgreen said:
Who are the early favorites for the top three picks?
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Adrian Peterson, RB, OklahomaMarshawn Lynch, RB, CaliforniaCalvin Johnson, WR, Georgia TechI don't expect this to change between now and the summer.If you want to get any of these picks from their owners, my advice is to create a large package of useful players - say 3-4 ranked somewhere between 50-100 at need positions. Don't shy away from giving up youth either, or tossing in your later first this year - the dropoff is steep.
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The dropoff is extremely steep this year. If I didn't havea top-2 pick, I'd begin looking to unload for as much as possible. There are some good safeties, which will be useful in IDP leagues, but other then that, there isn't much to get excited about.
 
Colin Dowling said:
Sigmund Bloom said:
dgreen said:
Who are the early favorites for the top three picks?
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Adrian Peterson, RB, OklahomaMarshawn Lynch, RB, CaliforniaCalvin Johnson, WR, Georgia TechI don't expect this to change between now and the summer.If you want to get any of these picks from their owners, my advice is to create a large package of useful players - say 3-4 ranked somewhere between 50-100 at need positions. Don't shy away from giving up youth either, or tossing in your later first this year - the dropoff is steep.
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The dropoff is extremely steep this year. If I didn't havea top-2 pick, I'd begin looking to unload for as much as possible. There are some good safeties, which will be useful in IDP leagues, but other then that, there isn't much to get excited about.
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:goodposting: How does the 2008 draft look? I have 4 first round picks in my rookie draft this year and am wondering if it would be in my teams best interest to trade picks this year for next year. My first round picks currently (awaiting lottery results) 2, 7, 10 and 12.
 
pgreenfan said:
Colin Dowling said:
Sigmund Bloom said:
dgreen said:
Who are the early favorites for the top three picks?
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Adrian Peterson, RB, OklahomaMarshawn Lynch, RB, CaliforniaCalvin Johnson, WR, Georgia TechI don't expect this to change between now and the summer.If you want to get any of these picks from their owners, my advice is to create a large package of useful players - say 3-4 ranked somewhere between 50-100 at need positions. Don't shy away from giving up youth either, or tossing in your later first this year - the dropoff is steep.
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The dropoff is extremely steep this year. If I didn't havea top-2 pick, I'd begin looking to unload for as much as possible. There are some good safeties, which will be useful in IDP leagues, but other then that, there isn't much to get excited about.
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:hot: How does the 2008 draft look? I have 4 first round picks in my rookie draft this year and am wondering if it would be in my teams best interest to trade picks this year for next year. My first round picks currently (awaiting lottery results) 2, 7, 10 and 12.
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It's looking great.There's a sick crop of RBs that are going to be juniors this year, led by Darren McFadden and Steve Slaton - they are joined by at least 4 or 5 RBs that would immediately rank #4 in this class. That doesn't even include Antonio Pittman and Mike Hart (assuming they return) and Michael Bush (who could return if Brohm does). The QB class is going to be deeper, but only Brohm (assuming a return) will be worth as much as Quinn or Russell -still, Booty, Ainge, Henne, Brennan (assuming return), and Ryan make for some good QB picks in the 2nd round (or later) of rookie drafts in 08. The WR class is led by Sidney Rice (assuming a return) and there are some great 07 juniors there too (DeSean Jackson, Mario Manningham) and some massive returning seniors (Adarius Bowman, Limas Sweed. Maurice Purify, Marcus Monk)The talent level at RB and WR in the 08 draft should get a huge boost from junior talent just like this year, but have better quality seniors.
 
pgreenfan said:
Colin Dowling said:
Sigmund Bloom said:
dgreen said:
Who are the early favorites for the top three picks?
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Adrian Peterson, RB, OklahomaMarshawn Lynch, RB, CaliforniaCalvin Johnson, WR, Georgia TechI don't expect this to change between now and the summer.If you want to get any of these picks from their owners, my advice is to create a large package of useful players - say 3-4 ranked somewhere between 50-100 at need positions. Don't shy away from giving up youth either, or tossing in your later first this year - the dropoff is steep.
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The dropoff is extremely steep this year. If I didn't havea top-2 pick, I'd begin looking to unload for as much as possible. There are some good safeties, which will be useful in IDP leagues, but other then that, there isn't much to get excited about.
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:hot: How does the 2008 draft look? I have 4 first round picks in my rookie draft this year and am wondering if it would be in my teams best interest to trade picks this year for next year. My first round picks currently (awaiting lottery results) 2, 7, 10 and 12.
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08 should be much better. RBs:Mike HartDarren McFaddenMichael Bush (if he stays in)Steve SlatonQBs:BrohmAingeRussellHenneHennanWoodsonThat's just the RBs and QBs, 80% of whom will be first day selections.
 
Bloom -

The QB class is going to be deeper, but only Brohm (assuming a return) will be worth as much as Quinn or Russell

Gentlemen's wager: I bet Eric Ainge goes within 10 picks of Brohm next season.

Colin

 
Sigmund Bloom said:
Colin Dowling said:
Bloom -

The QB class is going to be deeper, but only Brohm (assuming a return) will be worth as much as Quinn or Russell

Gentlemen's wager: I bet Eric Ainge goes within 10 picks of Brohm next season.

Colin
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Ainge a top 20 pick? I'll take that bet.
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:spitsonhandandshakes:David Cutcliffe coached QBs and their draft spots...

Andy Kelly - Tried baseball, ended up as a career AFL star

Heath Schuler - 3rd overall to Washington

Todd Helton - All Star for the Colorado Rockies

Peyton Manning - 1st overall to Indy

Tee Martin - 3rd round to Pittsburgh

Romero Miller - eh...

Eli Manning - 1st overall to New York Giants

Brady Quinn - about to go top-3

Eric Ainge....?

I like my chances. :lmao:

 
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Biabreakable said:
I sent out some feelers to guage what owners are looking for in return for the top 3 rookie picks in some dynasty leagues I'm in. Here are some replies. :goodposting:

Pick 1.01- Reggie Wayne and Tom Brady would get me to thinking about letting him go.

Pick 1.02-Cedric Benson and Darrell Jackson. Let me know.

Anyone else sent out feelers for these picks yet? What were the replies?

I am very amused by this. :goodposting:

ETA- http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=290962&hl=

The last 2 rookie Rbs since Portis to make a significant impact at the Rb position have been Domanic Davis and MJD. Darkhorse Rbs who often times were still available in the 2nd round of rookie drafts. Yet Peterson and Lynch are predestined to be bonifide super stars without even knowing which teams may pick them.

*edited again for gramatical errors coz I was laughing too hard writing 1st post.
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So why are you so hot after getting those picks then? Why don't you just make the guys a fair offer? What are you willing to give up to get 1.1 or 1.2?
 
Sigmund Bloom said:
Colin Dowling said:
Bloom -

The QB class is going to be deeper, but only Brohm (assuming a return) will be worth as much as Quinn or Russell

Gentlemen's wager: I bet Eric Ainge goes within 10 picks of Brohm next season.

Colin
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Ainge a top 20 pick? I'll take that bet.
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According to the talk by many fans at the U of L basketball game the other night, Brohm is all but gone. Many of the people I talked to actually seemed happy about this. Not sure what he did to get on their bad side, but they think he is gone for sure. Also, most say that Bush will be back at UofL for another year after his injury. I am not so sure about that one.
 
What about the backs from Rutgers and WV?

Sorry, Im not good with names, Slaton is the kid from WV I believe. But the games I watched them play in this year, they were very impressive. I dont know how well they will translate into NFL backs. But I have to think they are shooting up the draft boards

 
Shermanator said:
What about the backs from Rutgers and WV?Sorry, Im not good with names, Slaton is the kid from WV I believe. But the games I watched them play in this year, they were very impressive. I dont know how well they will translate into NFL backs. But I have to think they are shooting up the draft boards
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Slaton and Rice are sophs.
 
Biabreakable said:
I sent out some feelers to guage what owners are looking for in return for the top 3 rookie picks in some dynasty leagues I'm in. Here are some replies. :popcorn:

Pick 1.01- Reggie Wayne and Tom Brady would get me to thinking about letting him go.

Pick 1.02-Cedric Benson and Darrell Jackson. Let me know.

Anyone else sent out feelers for these picks yet? What were the replies?

I am very amused by this. :D

ETA- http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...=290962&hl=

The last 2 rookie Rbs since Portis to make a significant impact at the Rb position have been Domanic Davis and MJD. Darkhorse Rbs who often times were still available in the 2nd round of rookie drafts. Yet Peterson and Lynch are predestined to be bonifide super stars without even knowing which teams may pick them.

*edited again for gramatical errors coz I was laughing too hard writing 1st post.
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It's impossible to gauge whether or not these are fair offers without any additional information about your league setup and roster sizes. In Zealot leagues, I doubt Wayne and Brady would get you the 1.01 from a RB challenged team. These aren't outrageous at all imo, but again it depends on your league.
 
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Ryan_21 said:
Those replies are rediculous and must have been sent by morons. I would take Cedric Benson over ANY of next years rookie RBs.
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I have the 1.01 pick, have Benson on my roster and can tell you right now Benson and a top 5 WR would not get you my 1.01 pickI think the 1.01, 1.02 and 1.03 picks will be very expensive this year.
 
New England Patriots / Minnesota Vikings

Trade Rejected

New England Patriots offers:

Bell, Mike DEN RB;Henry, Chris CIN WR; Year 2007 Round 1 Draft Pick from New York Jets

Minnesota Vikings for:

Holt, Torry STL WR;Crowder, Channing MIA LB; Year 2007 Round 4 Draft Pick from Minnesota Vikings

Comments: draft pick is the 1.02

Tue Dec 26 12:32:40 p.m. ET 2006

No takers yet for the 1.02 pick. I'd trade it straight up for a top 5 WR.

 
Bossman said:
New England Patriots / Minnesota Vikings

Trade Rejected

New England Patriots offers:

Bell, Mike DEN RB;Henry, Chris CIN WR; Year 2007 Round 1 Draft Pick from New York Jets

Minnesota Vikings for:

Holt, Torry STL WR;Crowder, Channing MIA LB; Year 2007 Round 4 Draft Pick from Minnesota Vikings

Comments: draft pick is the 1.02

Tue Dec 26 12:32:40 p.m. ET 2006

No takers yet for the 1.02 pick. I'd trade it straight up for a top 5 WR.
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New England Patriots / Oakland Raiders Trade Proposal

New England Patriots offers Bell, Mike DEN RB;Bruce, Isaac STL WR;Schweigert, Stuart OAK S; Year 2007 Round 1 Draft Pick from New York Jets

Oakland Raiders for Wayne, Reggie IND WR;Dawkins, Brian PHI S

Comments: draft pick is the 1.02

Wed Dec 27 1:32:56 a.m. ET 2006

after 2 days I revoked the offer since I traded M.Bell in another deal.

 
................ offers: Walker, Javon DEN WR

to New England Patriots for: Campbell, Jason WAS QB;Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB;Johnson, Keyshawn CAR WR; Year 2007 Round 1 Draft Pick from New York Jets (1.02)

Mon Dec 25 1:50:45 a.m. ET 2006

so far this has been the best deal offerd to me. :shrug: I don't think I'll be dealing the 1.02.

 
The breakout of Bush Fever 2006 has really left a mark on rookie pick draft value for Spring 2007. In all my years doing this I have never seen so much offered or traded for the rights to a player (Bush) that was yet to take Snap One in the NFL. Ever.

My feeling is that some not all of the proud owners of 1.01/2007 have a value of that pick that is slightly inflated due to what the market produced for 1.01/2006. For example, I have a dynasty team with a pair of Top 10 RB and a trio of Top 15 WR. None are over 30. My feeling is that Peterson will be the real deal. I approached the owner about the rights to the 1.01. I was told I did not have enough to get 1.01. At that point I dropped the idea of getting the pick.

It is going to be tough to get the 1.01 or 1.02 this year. Peterson and C. Johnson are that good coupled with the unrealistic expectations caused by the Bush hangover.

As was stated, I would attempt to trade any 2007 first round picks not 1.01, 1.02 and, perhaps, 1.03 for 2008 picks.

 
Colin Dowling said:
Buckna said:
Biabreakable said:
Pick 1.01- Reggie Wayne and Tom Brady would get me to thinking about letting him go.
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I really don't see at all what is wrong with this feeler. If anything that's relatively cheap for the 1st pick.
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A top 5 QB and top 5 WR for the right to draft your choice of player that has never played a down in the nFL?
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The disparity in value between a potential top RB vs. a QB or WR sometimes says yes. I would argue that this year is one of those years with a RB as highly acclaimed as Peterson. Just a scant 2 seasons ago people thought the guy was the 2nd coming! Two injured seasons later and suddenly he seems to be flying under the radar a little bit, at least as compared to a few years ago.As for my reasoning in the specific trade possibility mentioned:

I see this trade as mostly 1.01 for Wayne. I wouldn't go anywhere near so far as to call Brady a throw-in, but offering a youthful, solid QB is essentially a sweetener. Maybe it's my own personal dynasty philosphy that others don't share, but QB's are a dime a dozen outside of the top 1 or 2 guys. Brady has extra value due to his name and his secure hold on his job, but he's at best an okay QB1 for fantasy purposes. He's essentially the Aikman of this fantasy football generation.

I would see it as trading a top 10 WR + sweetener for the ability to draft a premier RB prospect. Now as someone said, a lot of this depends on the league, if this is some start 2QB or 3WR+PPR league, it might be on the expensive side. In the average RB heavy dynasty, I wouldn't see it as a bad trade or neccessarily completely outlandish as the original poster was stating... Certainly cheaper than some of the trades I have seen go down before....

 
Bojang0301 said:
Yenrub said:
Someone offered me Darrell Jackson straight up for pick 1.01
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Can't you boys play nice over on the Z24 board? :pickle:
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No!! :pickle: I didn't want that to be the point of this thread either. Just interested in what people are asking for the top 3 rookie picks this year.I think a very good point was made about the hype hangover of Bush's value last year. People were not trading pick 1.01 at all. I seem to remember some poor shmuck traded LT for the pick he was so caught up in the Bush hype. OUCH!!Hey these rookies look potentialy to be good players but how good really??My intention for the thread was to talk about what people are offering/asking for those picks. Not to talk about my specific scenario as several have replied to it asking about. And there have been some good replies about other specifics so we can make a list of what the perspective of value for these picks may be. Realistic expectations or not. That is what it is. I will make a master list of the offers compiled in the 1st post.You guys calling Brady average are :goodposting: I am not even going to bother arguing with your assinine comments like Brady = Aikman. You need to go back to school guys.
 
I won it all and have the 1.02 pick also. I have not put a value on it yet. If a get a really good player for it i may trade it. Although i really like M Lynch. First i have to shop L Jordan first. That wont be easy :goodposting:

I have LJ,Westy and Parker as starters

I may offer it for MJD. His team needs alot of help. Use MJD as a flex

 
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Biabreakable said:
You guys calling Brady average are :goodposting: I am not even going to bother arguing with your assinine comments like Brady = Aikman. You need to go back to school guys.
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For the record, I did not call him average. I called him an average QB1. This is true. In a 12 team start 1 QB league, his numbers are average for most teams QB1. I also said that he was worth more than that because he is consistent, so you only have to tie up one roster spot in him, and can count on him for several years. That is a bonus.
 
rabidfireweasel said:
Biabreakable said:
You guys calling Brady average are :crazy: I am not even going to bother arguing with your assinine comments like Brady = Aikman. You need to go back to school guys.
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For the record, I did not call him average. I called him an average QB1. This is true. In a 12 team start 1 QB league, his numbers are average for most teams QB1. I also said that he was worth more than that because he is consistent, so you only have to tie up one roster spot in him, and can count on him for several years. That is a bonus.
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Yes I understand your position on Brady. I do not want to hijack the thread on this point. If people want to talk about Bradys value in dynasty we can start another thread for that.
 
Yenrub said:
Someone offered me Darrell Jackson straight up for pick 1.01
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You were also offered Romo and TO or Romo and Ward and a 2nd round pick and you don't counter, don't respond in any way at all...Maybe that is the reason you get the #1 pick in our league year after year...Your strategy of loading up on stud RBs and ignoring the rest of your team is not working...12-41 over the last 4 years should give you a hint that you need to look in a different direction...
 
BoneYardDog said:
Yenrub said:
Someone offered me Darrell Jackson straight up for pick 1.01
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You were also offered Romo and TO or Romo and Ward and a 2nd round pick and you don't counter, don't respond in any way at all...Maybe that is the reason you get the #1 pick in our league year after year...Your strategy of loading up on stud RBs and ignoring the rest of your team is not working...12-41 over the last 4 years should give you a hint that you need to look in a different direction...
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:crazy:
 
BoneYardDog said:
Yenrub said:
Someone offered me Darrell Jackson straight up for pick 1.01
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You were also offered Romo and TO or Romo and Ward and a 2nd round pick and you don't counter, don't respond in any way at all...Maybe that is the reason you get the #1 pick in our league year after year...Your strategy of loading up on stud RBs and ignoring the rest of your team is not working...12-41 over the last 4 years should give you a hint that you need to look in a different direction...
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the merits of the trade offers should be able to be evaluated without the snipe... i didn't need to know what the guys record is...would you give up peterson for romo & TO... i doubt it... in which case the criticism seems self-serving...TO is a ticking time bomb nearing his mid-thirties... romo could be good, but i'm not even sure he has 10 starts & the cowboys haven't looked as good in past few games...i seriously doubt if many on this board would part with peterson for TO & romo... not sure if there is ever a reason to call somebody out on the board, but in this case, you have a pretty flimsy leg to stand on...* TO leads NFL in TDs (i think), & yet many knowedgable football people are divided on whether DAL even wants him back next year... he is a locker room cancer, & increasingly teams are finding him not worth the distraction... the circle of teams that would take him on may be shrinking & closing...
 
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Bob_Magaw said:
BoneYardDog said:
Yenrub said:
Someone offered me Darrell Jackson straight up for pick 1.01
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You were also offered Romo and TO or Romo and Ward and a 2nd round pick and you don't counter, don't respond in any way at all...Maybe that is the reason you get the #1 pick in our league year after year...Your strategy of loading up on stud RBs and ignoring the rest of your team is not working...12-41 over the last 4 years should give you a hint that you need to look in a different direction...
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the merits of the trade offers should be able to be evaluated without the snipe... i didn't need to know what the guys record is...would you give up peterson for romo & TO... i doubt it... in which case the criticism seems self-serving...TO is a ticking time bomb nearing his mid-thirties... romo could be good, but i'm not even sure he has 10 starts & the cowboys haven't looked as good in past few games...i seriously doubt if many on this board would part with peterson for TO & romo... not sure if there is ever a reason to call somebody out on the board, but in this case, you have a pretty flimsy leg to stand on...
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Yeah but it made me feel good, whats he gonna do respond to me less that he does now...He is the one who put out the worst trade he was offered and made it sound like that was all he was offered for the pick...Yeah I would think hard about upgrading both my QB and WR positions as well as getting a 2nd round pick for another RB...But you are entitled to your own opinion...Just saying...
 
sold: deal made yesterday

(team A): will give up:

Holt, Torry STL WR

Crowder, Channing MIA LB

Year 2007 Round 2 Draft Pick (2.11)

Year 2008 Round 3 Draft Pick

Year 2008 Round 4 Draft Pick

(team B) will give up:

Calhoun, Brian DET RB

Curtis, Kevin STL WR

Year 2007 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.06)

Year 2007 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.02)

(trying to stay anonymous in case of negative fall out either way)

but the point is the 1.02 pick (M.Lynch or Calvin J.) was given up in a pkg for Torry Holt.

soooo there is your value of the 1.02....kinda.

 
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