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Senior Bowl Day Three Notes - South (1 Viewer)

Sigmund Bloom

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Notes Reflect Observations of Bloom and Cecil Lammey

QB

Kevin Kolb, Houston – coming on as a solid performer, good zip on short and intermediate throws, better accuracy on deep throws, goes through progressions quickly,

Generally seems more confident and at ease, had to throw away a flea flicker due to great coverage and a defense that didn’t bite.

Chris Leak, Florida – good but not great, zip on short and intermediate throws, accuracy wanes when throwing deep, prefers to check down rather than challenge the edges of the defense. Still showed good mobility when moving around behind the pocket. He was not clearly better than Palmer and Kolb like he was the last 2 days.

Jordan Palmer, UTEP – vastly improved performance when compared to Monday and Tuesday, fewer flutter passes and better accuracy. Split double team to Chris Davis that resulted in an INT that Bowe would’ve come down with. Seemed to be more excited than he was in the last 2 days.

RB

Lorenzo Booker, Florida State – dropped 2 passes in a row early, but really stepped up his game and did not drop any after that. Showed gamebreaking ability on an OT play where he outran Michael Griffin who had the angle on him. Great on draw plays. Natural receiver. Often left defenders grasping at air.

Ken Darby, Alabama – good hands but little else. Does not show the burst or acceleration of an NFL RB. Did get outside once on a counter toss. Mostly a between the tackles runner with little room for else.

Kenny Irons, Auburn – showed lousy hands today. Looked very natural as a runner of course. Liked to see his “pony kick” like Walter Payton used to do. Running through trash at the line of scrimmage with ease. Lots of effort and deliberate footwork. Hit the hole hard and looked somewhat elusive in the open field.

WR

Dallas Baker, Florida – doesn’t have deep speed, long strider, concentration issues that result in him letting the ball get to his body when thrown directly at him. Had a nice catch on a jump pass in the endzone, thrown by Chris Leak.

Dwayne Bowe, LSU – clearly the greatest receiver here at the Senior Bowl. Nice scooping catch where he had to go low to get the ball just right off the shoetops. Natural hands catcher and very consistent. Can hang in the air.

Chris Davis, Florida State – willing and playing with a lot of effort, but sometimes too small and slight to take it to the big boys. Best fundamentals fielding punts.

Johnnie Lee Higgins, UTEP – too fast for the play, didn’t get his head around, overrunning throws, can be coached up to be more patient and use his amazing speed in a more devastating fashion.

Chansi Stuckey, Clemson – catch of the day on one handed tip to himself, finished with sprawling sideline catch. Good straight ahead speed. Had the ball stripped when trying to dance, ball came out and was recovered by the defense.

Courtney Taylor, Auburn – still making plays, kind of fast, kind of strong, decent hands, but nothing stands out with his play. Gives a good effort, but will it be enough?

TE

Joe Newton, Oregon State – made great adjustment and flattened Michael Griffin by putting his shoulder down and powering through.

OL/D

Justin Blalock, OG, Texas – doesn’t seem like a tackle at the next level. Getting beat more than winning 1 on 1 battles.

Tim Crowder, DE, Texas – stayed at home on double reverse, able to sniff out plays, would’ve had multiple sacks in a full contact, strong but fast enough to get to the corner.

Buster Davis, LB, Florida State – sideline to sideline LB, did get broken down by fellow Seminole Lorenzo Booker.

Tim Duckworth, OL, Auburn – looked good pulling in the run game.

Ray McDonald, DE, Florida – equally outstanding getting below OL as DT, or getting around OL as a DE. Also would’ve had multiple sacks if full contact.

Brandon Meriweather, S, Miami – emotional leader of the defense, wrestled the ball away from Chris Davis, lined up at CB at times.

Chase Pittman, DE, LSU – overwhelmed, lack of effort, doesn’t seem like he belongs here.

Ben Grubbs, OG, Auburn – beat Ryan McBean twice in 1 on 1’s, something that has been nearly impossible this week

Joe Staley, OT, Central Michigan – good footwork, looked like NFL LT.

Kevin Payne, S, Louisiana-Monroe – improving every day, not very quick or fast, but diagnosed plays well.

Aaron Ross, CB, Texas – great anticipation on comeback route, sometimes seemed content to keep plays in front of him.

Tony Ugoh, OT, Arkansas – great feet and strong punch, redirected Crowder in the pit, establishing himself as the #2 OT in the 2007 NFL draft.

Patrick Willis, LB, Ole Miss – excellent in all facets of the game. Class of all the LB’s are the Senior Bowl.

 
and we're sadly heading home, we'll be around all weekend to talk about our Senior Bowl experience on the board.

 
Brandon Merriweather sounds like he really helped himself and this OT class is looking strong at the top.

Maylock has really been high on Kolb, it sounds like he was solid, but did you guys see anything special?

 
Watching Singletary drill the linebackers was great. He really was getting on Buster Davis for not staying low in drills and also got on Willis a few times. From the drills, a couple games I viewed, and some footage they have shown on him, Buster has tremendous straight line explosion but is stiff in the hips when changing direction and can get engulfed by so so blockers. From solely the drills today, Willis is the best 2 down MLB or a 3-4 inside backer but could have some problems in space. But again, I loved seeing Samurai Mike coach. He wanted to coach these kids badly and hated to hear the horn signifying a move to the next drill.

 
Would you guys mind fleshing Patrick Willis out for me/us?

I've seen a number of notes suggesting he may be closer to a plugger MLB/ILB type than a three down all-around MLB. Bloom says he's solid in all phases, which doesn't necessarily follow with boubacrow's last post.

Who's the better comp (not that either is perfect)? London Fletcher or Jeremiah Trotter? Or is there a better comp somewhere in-between, recognizing that Willis sounds quicker than Fletcher and is obviously smaller than Trotter?

 
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Would you guys mind fleshing Patrick Willis out for me/us?I've seen a number of notes suggesting he may be closer to a plugger MLB/ILB type than a three down all-around MLB. Bloom says he's solid in all phases, which doesn't necessarily follow with boubacrow's last post.Who's the better comp (not that either is perfect)? London Fletcher or Jeremiah Trotter? Or is there a better comp somewhere in-between, recognizing that Willis sounds quicker than Fletcher and is obviously a little smaller than Trotter?
Physically, he is not as thick as either one of those guys. I am wanting place him as Nap. Harris or someone in that body type. NFL starting material, but does not standout to me as a pro-bowler or anything.
 
Would you guys mind fleshing Patrick Willis out for me/us?
Jene, there's going to be some great feature stories on this kid in the coming weeks. You will love everything you hear. He's one of those who overcame long odds to get here and worked extremely hard on any perceived weakness to be the best. I know you're not interested in the puffy stuff, but Bengals fans should start paying better attention. :D On the field Willis is great. He had a very similar grade to DeMeco Ryans last year. A scout was quoted saying he would have gone higher than Ryans and he knew the team that would have taken him. He plays the game very much like Ryans. Brilliant instincts. Great angles. Underrated speed, sideline to sideline abilty. Solid in coverage. But he is more of a physical presence than the DROY. Patrick Willis is complete. :mellow:
 
Would you guys mind fleshing Patrick Willis out for me/us?

I've seen a number of notes suggesting he may be closer to a plugger MLB/ILB type than a three down all-around MLB. Bloom says he's solid in all phases, which doesn't necessarily follow with boubacrow's last post.

Who's the better comp (not that either is perfect)? London Fletcher or Jeremiah Trotter? Or is there a better comp somewhere in-between, recognizing that Willis sounds quicker than Fletcher and is obviously a little smaller than Trotter?

Physically, he is not as thick as either one of those guys. I am wanting place him as Nap. Harris or someone in that body type. NFL starting material, but does not standout to me as a pro-bowler or anything.
Jene, there's going to be some great feature stories on this kid in the coming weeks. You will love everything you hear. He's one of those who overcame long odds to get here and worked extremely hard on any perceived weakness to be the best. I know you're not interested in the puffy stuff, but Bengals fans should start paying better attention. :D

On the field Willis is great. He had a very similar grade to DeMeco Ryans last year. A scout was quoted saying he would have gone higher than Ryans and he knew the team that would have taken him. He plays the game very much like Ryans. Brilliant instincts. Great angles. Underrated speed, sideline to sideline abilty. Solid in coverage. But he is more of a physical presence than the DROY. Patrick Willis is complete. :shrug:
Thanks to both of you.CC, my early read of Willis was similar to yours after reading a few scouting reports. But, given that I don't trust myself to evaluate these guys properly, I was worried about the two down, plugger comments. I wouldn't mind Napoleon Harris' skill set in a high character guy like Willis. Until this season, Harris had always seemed held back by himself.

 
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Sigmund Bloom said:
Dwayne Bowe, LSU – clearly the greatest receiver here at the Senior Bowl. Nice scooping catch where he had to go low to get the ball just right off the shoetops. Natural hands catcher and very consistent. Can hang in the air.
I know Jarrett & Ginn weren't there to strut their stuff and the combine will make this battle interesting, but could it be possible that Bowe is the first WR taken?
Sigmund Bloom said:
Tony Ugoh, OT, Arkansas – great feet and strong punch, redirected Crowder in the pit, establishing himself as the #2 OT in the 2007 NFL draft.
:thumbup: Ahead of Levi Brown? All of a sudden, there's some nice talent available at tackle - Thomas, Brown, Ugoh, Staley.
 
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Sigmund Bloom said:
Tony Ugoh, OT, Arkansas – great feet and strong punch, redirected Crowder in the pit, establishing himself as the #2 OT in the 2007 NFL draft.
:confused: Ahead of Levi Brown? All of a sudden, there's some nice talent available at tackle - Thomas, Brown, Ugoh, Staley.
Pat Kirwan singled out Ugoh as his biggest disappointment so far. I didn't get to see much of Ugoh so I have very little opinion on his outlook but wanted to toss another strong opinion I heard.
 
Behind the scenes at the Senior Bowl from a different perspective. This is from Matt Maiocco's Blog at the Santa Rosa Press-Democrat. He's a beat writer for the Niners and is following the staff as they coach up the South squad:

http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/

Language barrier slows down some more than others

I quietly and discreetly made my way into the back of the room. There, I sat dumbfounded. I didn't understand a word anybody was saying.

"Now, you know what the players are going through," 49ers coach Mike Nolan said later. "There were 22 players in that room, and those 22 probably speak 10 different languages. In just a couple days, they all have to learn a new language."

This is how it is for the players chosen to participate in the Senior Bowl this week in Mobile, Ala. In many cases, they have spent four years learning the football terminology at their schools. And then they have to apply a new language in a short period of time while functioning well enough on the field to impress NFL coaches and scouts.

The language is defensive football. As I looked around the room, I saw a few players with blank looks on their faces. It was obvious that they didn't really have a clue what was going on - or they had not yet become conversant in this language that the 49ers' defensive coaches were speaking during their Wednesday meeting.

But then there were others who were obviously quick to catch on. CB Jonathan Wade of Tennessee and SS Michael Griffin were seated next to each other in the first row. When Nolan was at the whiteboard with a pen in his hand, Wade asked a question. Griffin was also quick with answers when Nolan quizzed him.

Believe me, Nolan noticed how quickly those pair picked it up.

"That's why I like to coach in this game," Nolan said. "If you're not coaching, you don't get to see what we see in the meeting room. Some guys learn that stuff quickly, and there are other guys who sit there quietly and don't really know what's going on."

Count me in the latter group.

* * *

The players convened at 9 a.m. in a meeting room at the Mobile Convention Center, which is a short walk over the sky bridge from the hotel. New special teams coach Al Everest went over some film of punt coverages. But, first, the former Saints special-teams coach had some words of advice for the players in the room.

"Joe Horn was in the league six years and he did nothing but special teams," Everest said. "Do you know how many players suit up for games?"

Someone answered correctly: 45.

"That's not even two-deep at every position," Everest said, emphasizing that the way for young players to prove their worth initially is on special teams.

* * *

I remained in the room, as the defensive meeting began with Nolan in front of the group diagramming formations. He talked about where he wants to see the linebackers line up when the offense is showing certain looks.

Before he got going he wanted to alert the players that the Wednesday practice would be the last one that is well-attended by NFL scouts and coaches. Most of them would head home after the upcoming practice. They will watch the film of the game, rather than remain in Mobile to watch it in person.

The session begins with the entire defense watching film of the 11-on-11 portion of Tuesday's practice. The players are split up into sections of the room, so their position coaches can point out pertinent information as it appears on the screen.

* * *

Ole Miss LB Patrick Willis was sitting to Singletary's immediate right during this session. Those two were in constant soft conversation about what they were seeing on the film. Nolan pointed out to Griffin that he needed to flip his hips sooner on a corner route in which he was covering LSU WR Dwayne Bowe. As it was, Griffin got his hand on the ball, but Bowe still managed to make an acrobatic catch. "That play is yours in the game," Nolan told him. New DL coach Jim Tomsula was eagerly pointing out ways in which his linemen could use better technique. He also noticed several times in which his guys were lined up in the neutral zone. "We don't have to be talking about this again," he told them.

One constant theme was that the defense was a little overzealous in practice. Oklahoma LB Rufus Alexander roughed up a running back after catching a screen pass. "Save it for the game," Nolan told him. When Nolan quizzed Wade about the routes he should expect in a certain formation when the QB takes a three-step drop, Wade answered correctly, "Hitches and slants." DE Quentin Moses showed his athleticism to bat down a ball at the line of scrimmage, then did a nice job of controlling the tight end with his hands on a run play.

* * *

"Hey, Meriweather," Nolan said. "What's your first name?"

"Brandon."

"Brian?"

"No, Brandon."

"OK, your last name is too long for me to say all the time."

Meriweather, a safety from Miami, received some praise a couple plays later for finishing the play by stripping the receiver of the ball.

* * *

Willis showed his outstanding athleticism and his range with an interception some 20 yards down the field on a sideline route. On the next play, CB A.J. Davis of N.C. State made an outstanding play, and was credited for his "route recognition." CB David Irons of Auburn was praised for his tight defense on a deep route. Although Griffin had no bearing on the play and really didn't move much from where he lined up, Nolan pointed out that he did not abandon is position and thus was "good in the defense."

* * *

The defensive line and linebackers went into an adjoining room to watch the 9-on-7 run drills, and I followed them in there. Singletary noticed a couple times when there were two linebackers following a tight end. "I don't want to see two men on a tight end," he said. "Talk to each other. Be nice to each other. Help each other out."

Singletary urged LB Earl Everett of Florida to "be explosive" on one play, and singled him out for his textbook body position on a couple plays later.

* * *

Although Tomsula had no difficult pointing out technique flaws, it was clear that some of the linemen had made tremendous strides in correcting the problems that showed up on film from the previous day. "See how much better that was Day 1 to Day 2?" Tomsula said. "That's exciting stuff!"

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Observations from NFLN day three south coverage

There wasn't much to go on with the QBs and RBs. They did show one of Irons drops. In the RB rankings I mention this is a pretty big issue with him. Being one of his bigger critics, I will give him this, he is a very hard worker and he is in great condition. He is also quicker and faster than I gave him credit for. I'm softening up on his prospects a little, but I think it's a mistake to compare him to his weak competition. Compare him to what you see in the NFL and his prospects dim considerably. Consider Booker has outplayed him all week and Booker is basically smaller Leon Washington.

On the wide receivers the camera seemed preoccupied with Stuckey and Bowe. Bowe sure looks like a complete NFL player already. He got open at will and caught everything. But, I'm not going to overreact to a great week, like I tried not to overreact to a bad week for Hagan a year ago. Bowe will be in the first round of my mocks from here forward, but he has been beating unimpressive DBs.

Stuckey impressed me with more than just the spectacular grab Bloom described. His change of direction is seamless. He will be very hard to cover and looks like a great guy to have in the slot and returning kicks.

Higgins was praised for his potential, but they're was nothing to see. They reported scouts are calling him a sleeper. Chris Davis is pretty to watch, but I'm not excited about him at all. Not in my top 20 for this class. Courtney Taylor is perfectly described by Bloom; I liked what little I saw. Dallas Baker is a nice sleeper, imo. I always come away impressed with him but feel alone about it. He isn't fast, but he is a playmaker, and he's run very crisp routes for the camera two days in a row. Bowe may have shown better hands this week, but in live game action, Bowe has been unreliable while Baker... well, he's the touchdown maker.

The linebacker coverage was once again all about Singletary. Meh, we just got to see them in drills and very little action. Mike is an equal opportunity critic. He was rough on Buster Davis for playing too high, Patrick Willis for footwork, and he told Earl Everett what I've been saying in the IDP forum since December. He has it all, but he isn't physical. Singletary is such a great nfl character. You have to chuckle when he refers to these kids by school. "Florida! Florida! Come on, you're better than that!" I did notice he referred to Buster Davis by name by the end of some impressive MLB work in 11-11s.

OLs. These guys are not impressive. Ugoh, who I have been trying to get excited about is a turnstile. I know that conflicts with Bloom above, and he saw much more than me, but the camera wasn't kind. His footwork against competition looked like Robert Gallery to me. In drills he is a great speciman. Not sure what to make of him. Looking forward to this game. Grubbs and Kalil got a lot of praise and Kalil looked deserving, Grubbs disappointing go me. Kiper may have been the first one out there to get Kalil in the first round and he could be right about that. His performance so far is equal than Mangold's from last year, albeit against lesser competition. Blalock has good moments, but he isn't the dominator I thought. Sears looks good. Staley looks good. No one looks great but possibly Kalil. That's it, Ryan Kalil, Joe Staley, and Aaron Sears, maybe Blalock and Ugoh.

You know it's tough year for corners when the safeties are better in coverage.

 
Ole Miss LB Patrick Willis was sitting to Singletary's immediate right during this session. Those two were in constant soft conversation about what they were seeing on the film. Willis showed his outstanding athleticism and his range with an interception some 20 yards down the field on a sideline route.
Jene, by my count that's a pick a day for Willis. This one sound impressive. He took one from Booker in the flat, and on the day three coverage he makes one in the middle of the endzone. He looks like Julian Peterson in coverage. Very long arms and serious leaping ability.
 
:lmao: Good googly moogly.

How are we to make any sense out of this? One man's trash = another's treasure.

 
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Sigmund Bloom said:
Dwayne Bowe, LSU – clearly the greatest receiver here at the Senior Bowl. Nice scooping catch where he had to go low to get the ball just right off the shoetops. Natural hands catcher and very consistent. Can hang in the air.
I know Jarrett & Ginn weren't there to strut their stuff and the combine will make this battle interesting, but could it be possible that Bowe is the first WR taken?
Sigmund Bloom said:
Tony Ugoh, OT, Arkansas – great feet and strong punch, redirected Crowder in the pit, establishing himself as the #2 OT in the 2007 NFL draft.
:confused: Ahead of Levi Brown? All of a sudden, there's some nice talent available at tackle - Thomas, Brown, Ugoh, Staley.
No you forgot Calvin Johnson and while Bowe's stock is rising I'm still not sure he is higher than 5th off the board as far as WR's go at this point.
 
How are we to make any sense out of this? One man's trash = another's treasure.
:goodposting: Who?
Specifically Ugoh. But I've also read conflicting reports on most of the cornerbacks.The only consistent praise seems to be for Bowe and PWillis.Maybe I just read too much.
I think that's all part of the experience for us here. You read different perspectives and hear different opinions on a player and you need to sort through it and come to a conclusion. I saw that Tony Pauline on SI.com said that Kenneth Darby is looking good, while I've heard the opposite. But you really need to look at all reports together and try to put together a picture for yourself by seeing how each "scout" views a position. For example, let's say there is a WR there that is running good routes and showing good separation, but drops too many balls. A scout that places a lot of emphasis on hands may say the WR is performing poorly. But a scout that is more concerned with separation and route running would say the WR looks pretty good, but drops a couple here and there. By combining a couple of different views on a player, I think you can more accurately assess his strengths and weaknesses.
 
How are we to make any sense out of this? One man's trash = another's treasure.
:goodposting: Who?
Specifically Ugoh. But I've also read conflicting reports on most of the cornerbacks.The only consistent praise seems to be for Bowe and PWillis.Maybe I just read too much.
The sad thing about Ugoh is Bloom and I could both be right. He may have established himself as the #2 OT in the draft (Bloom's take) and he may yet be a turnstile (my take). :hey: With Blalock and Sears projecting as guards, it's Ugoh vs. Staley for OT2, unless some team is enamored with Levi Brown's body. There just isn't much to be excited about in this class. I like Sears and Blalock though. I could see either holding up at RT.
 
The sad thing about Ugoh is Bloom and I could both be right. He may have established himself as the #2 OT in the draft (Bloom's take) and he may yet be a turnstile (my take). :shrug: With Blalock and Sears projecting as guards, it's Ugoh vs. Staley for OT2, unless some team is enamored with Levi Brown's body. There just isn't much to be excited about in this class. I like Sears and Blalock though. I could see either holding up at RT.
The positive is that there seem to be indications that these guys are all pretty coachable. That's another thing...Can pro coaches really be so much better than college? Seems like there's an awful lot of "after a few minutes spent with coach XYZ, he showed marked improvement." What's up with that?
 
The positive is that there seem to be indications that these guys are all pretty coachable. That's another thing...Can pro coaches really be so much better than college? Seems like there's an awful lot of "after a few minutes spent with coach XYZ, he showed marked improvement." What's up with that?
It's :shrug:
 
Ole Miss LB Patrick Willis was sitting to Singletary's immediate right during this session. Those two were in constant soft conversation about what they were seeing on the film. Willis showed his outstanding athleticism and his range with an interception some 20 yards down the field on a sideline route.
Jene, by my count that's a pick a day for Willis. This one sound impressive. He took one from Booker in the flat, and on the day three coverage he makes one in the middle of the endzone. He looks like Julian Peterson in coverage. Very long arms and serious leaping ability.
Heh, that note caught my eye too. I'll be respectfully ignoring the two down plugger talk for now. On another note, I like what I'm hearing about the off-field work of Michael Griffin. Can't remember where I read it, but I thought there were concerns about his NFL readiness. Or was it just that he had a poorer collegiate season than expected of him?
 
No you forgot Calvin Johnson and while Bowe's stock is rising I'm still not sure he is higher than 5th off the board as far as WR's go at this point.
I'm seeing him as WR2 in a bunch of mocks and in message board rankings at a few different sites. I doubt it. With way waaaaaay better QBing, a more explosive offense and a defense that gave him far more opportunities, his numbers are just about equal to Sidney Rice's. Rice is two years younger and Rice with Russell at LSU would be... wow... a monster. 1. Calvin2. Jarrett3abc&d. Rice, Meachem, Ginn, Bowe
 
The positive is that there seem to be indications that these guys are all pretty coachable. That's another thing...Can pro coaches really be so much better than college? Seems like there's an awful lot of "after a few minutes spent with coach XYZ, he showed marked improvement." What's up with that?
It's :(
Well, oooookay then.
:lmao: I did put a smiley on that response. Here's what I mean. Maybe an OL isn't getting his hands inside and under. So the coach is all over him about it and teaches him to squeeze his elbows palms up and punch under the shoulder pads. Now a live practice dummy stands in front of him and he does it. Now the coach praises him and the analysts praise the coach for instantly improving a player's technique. Meanwhile his college coach is watching on TV laughing because he's taught the correct technique to that oaf for four years and he only retains the knowledge for five minutes. :bye:
 
boubucarow said:
Watching Singletary drill the linebackers was great. He really was getting on Buster Davis for not staying low in drills and also got on Willis a few times. From the drills, a couple games I viewed, and some footage they have shown on him, Buster has tremendous straight line explosion but is stiff in the hips when changing direction and can get engulfed by so so blockers. From solely the drills today, Willis is the best 2 down MLB or a 3-4 inside backer but could have some problems in space. But again, I loved seeing Samurai Mike coach. He wanted to coach these kids badly and hated to hear the horn signifying a move to the next drill.
He was exactly the same at the Shrine Game, dude just lives to coach. Even after practices were over, he was giving guys 1 on 1 coaching. Whatever teams gets him as an HC is extremely fortunate.
 
Sigmund Bloom said:
Dwayne Bowe, LSU – clearly the greatest receiver here at the Senior Bowl. Nice scooping catch where he had to go low to get the ball just right off the shoetops. Natural hands catcher and very consistent. Can hang in the air.
I know Jarrett & Ginn weren't there to strut their stuff and the combine will make this battle interesting, but could it be possible that Bowe is the first WR taken?
Sigmund Bloom said:
Tony Ugoh, OT, Arkansas – great feet and strong punch, redirected Crowder in the pit, establishing himself as the #2 OT in the 2007 NFL draft.
:goodposting: Ahead of Levi Brown? All of a sudden, there's some nice talent available at tackle - Thomas, Brown, Ugoh, Staley.
Ugoh sometimes gets beaten, but his footwork and punch are outstanding, definitely better than Brown's.
 
Ugoh, who I have been trying to get excited about is a turnstile. I know that conflicts with Bloom above, and he saw much more than me, but the camera wasn't kind. His footwork against competition looked like Robert Gallery to me. In drills he is a great speciman. Not sure what to make of him.
CC,ill admit my optimism on Ugoh is based on projectability more than what he is right now. I saw him move that huge frame so nimble that it was almost unreal (at times). He viciously pancaked guys (at times). He knocked guys completely off balance with his initial punch (at times).

So yeah, its not there on every play, like it is for Thomas, but his tools to stand out when he displays them, which isn't all the time, or necessarily most of the time, but he can be special, and LT is like QB, if you display franchise potential, the teams are going to jump all over you in the first. I think he has franchise LT potential , but yes, he is not there yet, needs consistency, and sometimes looks bad.

 
Sigmund Bloom said:
Dwayne Bowe, LSU – clearly the greatest receiver here at the Senior Bowl. Nice scooping catch where he had to go low to get the ball just right off the shoetops. Natural hands catcher and very consistent. Can hang in the air.
I know Jarrett & Ginn weren't there to strut their stuff and the combine will make this battle interesting, but could it be possible that Bowe is the first WR taken?
Sigmund Bloom said:
Tony Ugoh, OT, Arkansas – great feet and strong punch, redirected Crowder in the pit, establishing himself as the #2 OT in the 2007 NFL draft.
:lmao: Ahead of Levi Brown? All of a sudden, there's some nice talent available at tackle - Thomas, Brown, Ugoh, Staley.
No you forgot Calvin Johnson and while Bowe's stock is rising I'm still not sure he is higher than 5th off the board as far as WR's go at this point.
not true - Bowe, Rice, Jarrett, Meachem, and Ginn are all different flavors of first round WR talent. Who goes #2 may be based on what kind of guy the teams in the middle of the first are looking for as opposed to the teams in the late first, not so much their grades in relation to each other.One things for sure, the Pats can get one of these guys straight up for Branch when you fill out that trade, and that's yet another great move for them.

 
Ole Miss LB Patrick Willis was sitting to Singletary's immediate right during this session. Those two were in constant soft conversation about what they were seeing on the film. Willis showed his outstanding athleticism and his range with an interception some 20 yards down the field on a sideline route.
Jene, by my count that's a pick a day for Willis. This one sound impressive. He took one from Booker in the flat, and on the day three coverage he makes one in the middle of the endzone. He looks like Julian Peterson in coverage. Very long arms and serious leaping ability.
Heh, that note caught my eye too. I'll be respectfully ignoring the two down plugger talk for now. On another note, I like what I'm hearing about the off-field work of Michael Griffin. Can't remember where I read it, but I thought there were concerns about his NFL readiness. Or was it just that he had a poorer collegiate season than expected of him?
The whole texas secondary played like turds this year, but ross and griffin look like the real deal down here, so does Crowder. Cant figure out what happened, but Chizik is gone to Iowa State, we'll see...
 
Sigmund Bloom said:
Dwayne Bowe, LSU – clearly the greatest receiver here at the Senior Bowl. Nice scooping catch where he had to go low to get the ball just right off the shoetops. Natural hands catcher and very consistent. Can hang in the air.
I know Jarrett & Ginn weren't there to strut their stuff and the combine will make this battle interesting, but could it be possible that Bowe is the first WR taken?

Even if he is not taken, he will end up being the second best receiver in the draft. He is faster than jarrett and bigger than ginn. Bowe has t. owens skills and we all know how good he was when his attitude and mouth were not getting in the way. Is Jarrett another Mike Williams? Ginn could become a glorified kick returner, if he doesn't learn to run routes.

Calvin Johnson is an absolute freak and the best!
 
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Where do you guys speculate Lorenzo Booker will go in the NFL draft, and FF rookie drafts?

I was thinking mid to late 2nd in the NFL draft, and 1.5 to 1.10 in rookie drafts. :wall:

 
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Where do you guys speculate Lorenzo Booker will go in the NFL draft, and FF rookie drafts?I was thinking mid to late 2nd in the NFL draft, and 1.5 to 1.10 in rookie drafts. :wall:
Im not sure where he will debut in the first bloom 100, but I cant imagine itll be lower than 12, and could be as high as 6 or 7 - in a PPR, even 4 or 5.
 
Even if he is not taken, he will end up being the second best receiver in the draft. He is faster than jarrett and bigger than ginn. Bowe has t. owens skills and we all know how good he was when his attitude and mouth were not getting in the way. Is Jarrett another Mike Williams? Ginn could become a glorified kick returner, if he doesn't learn to run routes.Calvin Johnson is an absolute freak and the best!
Bowe will be better than Rice, Meachem, Ginn and Jarrett? I would take those 4 in a heartbeat. I think he will possibly be better than one or two, but he may also find himself behind one or two not mentioned.Remember the Florida game? Russell's detractors like to point out that Brady Quinn performed better in big games than Russell and this is there best example. I'm not looking up exact details but Russell threw 3 picks while his defense played great against Leak, but Tebow had that freaky jump pass and some big runs to seal the game. In the first half while the game was very hotly contested and LSU had momentumm, Russell hit Bowe with a perfect pass that would have put LSU in the redzone. It bounced off Bowe's stomach and into Reggie Nelson's hands. A one play example of three of my beefs. Russell was perfect, but gets the blame. Bowe is hyped but choked at a crucial time. Nelson fell into glory by fortunately being in the right place. The game is practically over when Russell's 3rd interception bounces off of Bowe's hands and goes the other way. But still any chance of a comeback was killed. Russell gets criticized, no one blames Bowe. What gives? He put up nice numbers. Almost 1000 yardds 12 TDs. Sidney Rice breaks records in that offense. I really like Bowe, btw. I really liked Mayock's comments about him in a WC offense. Perfect. TO comparisons unfair but understood. Bowe is a far better prospect than anyone who came out last year, but he may be #6 in this class. I think you're a little too sure of this guy. Bowe had 70 yards or so against Arkansas, but that was the game that made me a Chris Houston fan. It didn't matter which of LSU's three very good receivers he covered, he shut them down. Bowe could not shake that guy. Did you see the Tennessee game? LSU's secondary was awesome last year. Everyone saw what they did to Quinn, Samardzija and Knight. Meachem lit that secondary up on a day where Bowe dropped on in the endzone and another where he would have ran for a TD. I have these games recorded. I like Bowe. No way you can watch that one and prefer him to Meachem. These are very good WRs in an unusually deep class.
 
These are very good WRs in an unusually deep class.
Indeed. I count six with first round grades after counting ZERO last year. Holmes only got in because he can return punts too - he's would be 7th in this class purely as WR.
Holmes would be above Rice and Bowe... judging by the season he had if the draft from last year was redone again I'm sure he would go in the first half of round one.
 
These are very good WRs in an unusually deep class.
Indeed. I count six with first round grades after counting ZERO last year. Holmes only got in because he can return punts too - he's would be 7th in this class purely as WR.
Which is why, getting specific, the Vikings will NOT go WR in the first unless it's CJ. The should have a choice of a couple good ones at 2.7.
The six in question may all be gone in the first round. They are in that mysterious mock I keep saying I'm working on. Btw, I have a Pac 10 connection telling me the Chargers are all over Jason Hill and rate him higher than they rated Holmes and Jackson a year ago. I laughed when he said this because I thought the same thing last year when Hill was considering coming out early. He should have. This competition is way over his head, but if Minnesota settles for a Hill, or a Allison, or Gonzo, these guys are very capable. Bloom, I would like to see rankings of Senior Bowl WRs only. I'm very curious how low you rank Jason Hill. He hasn't got his speed right from an injury plagued year, but this kid had something like 240 yards on 6 receptions in one game as a junior. He is faster than Demetrius Williams, fwiw.
 
These are very good WRs in an unusually deep class.
Indeed. I count six with first round grades after counting ZERO last year. Holmes only got in because he can return punts too - he's would be 7th in this class purely as WR.
Which is why, getting specific, the Vikings will NOT go WR in the first unless it's CJ. The should have a choice of a couple good ones at 2.7.
The six in question may all be gone in the first round. They are in that mysterious mock I keep saying I'm working on. Btw, I have a Pac 10 connection telling me the Chargers are all over Jason Hill and rate him higher than they rated Holmes and Jackson a year ago. I laughed when he said this because I thought the same thing last year when Hill was considering coming out early. He should have. This competition is way over his head, but if Minnesota settles for a Hill, or a Allison, or Gonzo, these guys are very capable. Bloom, I would like to see rankings of Senior Bowl WRs only. I'm very curious how low you rank Jason Hill. He hasn't got his speed right from an injury plagued year, but this kid had something like 240 yards on 6 receptions in one game as a junior. He is faster than Demetrius Williams, fwiw.
He did not have a second gear in the practices, sorry. He wasn't able to pull away from anyone except once from *gulp* Weddle.cec and i will be doing final rankings of senior bowl player by position sometime after the game. the first bloom 100 is coming soon too.
 
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These are very good WRs in an unusually deep class.
Indeed. I count six with first round grades after counting ZERO last year. Holmes only got in because he can return punts too - he's would be 7th in this class purely as WR.
Which is why, getting specific, the Vikings will NOT go WR in the first unless it's CJ. The should have a choice of a couple good ones at 2.7.
The six in question may all be gone in the first round. They are in that mysterious mock I keep saying I'm working on.
Bite. Your. Tongue. :shrug:
 
Matt Maiocco's latest entry from his blog. He's not a draftnik, but these are opinions from a Niner beat writer:

http://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/

Miscellaneous player notes from Senior Bowl

I just returned to my hotel room after watching the final 30 minutes of the North practice. I was late getting out to Ladd-Peebles Stadium because the 49ers were gracious enough to allow me to eavesdrop on the South team's offensive meeting. (I'll write about that experience later.)

My car continues to be all the rage in Mobile. It's been dubbed, "The Peanut M&M." As you saw on an earlier blog, it's not much too look at. However, I've driven 200 miles since I've been here and the needle just dipped below "F."

I know a lot of draftniks out there want to hear about some of the players at the Senior Bowl. Here are some of the notes I've compiled. And I'll add some more to this entry when I return from the South practice, which begins at 1:45 (CST):

--DE Quentin Moses of Georgia was once considered a first-round selection. Now, it looks as if he's fallen to the second or third round. I asked Mike Nolan if he's seen any players who fits what he's looking for as one of those 'tweener types who is a DE but might be able to play OLB in a 3-4. He said he's seen some but didn't want to identify them. I think Moses is perfect. Some teams will be turned off because 250 pounds is a little light for a DE, and he might not have all the skills to play OLB.

--TE Ben Patrick of Delaware was a late addition to the roster due to an injury that forced Clark Harris of Rutgers out of the game. Patrick wasted little time in making an impression with his pass-catching. He also showed a physical side as a blocker.

--OT Levi Brown of Penn State has performed well and looks to have solidified his position in the top half of the first round.

--OT Arron Sears of Tennessee looks to be the best lineman on the South team, a squad that includes Justin Blalock (Texas) and Joe Staley (Central Michigan).

--CB Daymeion Hughes of Cal got off to a great start in practice this week on Monday, but he has missed practice time with a lower back strain.

--DT Brandon Mebane of Cal has a chance to move into the first day of the draft. He's seen as a third- or fourth-round selection. He has shown up very well in one-on-one drills.

--RB Brian Leonard of Rutgers has helped himself as he has proven he has a lot of versatility as a fullback.

--QB Kevin Kolb of Houston has shown ability to make plays, but a concern with NFL scouts is his lack of familiarity playing under center. The scouts also have questions about his arm strength.

--QB Troy Smith of Ohio State has taken some strides to repair his reputation after the Heisman Trophy winner struggled in the national title game. Nobody seems to be quite sure where Smith is going to go in the draft.

--QB Drew Stanton of Michigan State did not have a great senior season, but one coach said he could end up being the best of the bunch (after JaMarcus Russell and Brady Quinn).

--DE Adam Carraker of Nebraska is a definite first-round pick. Jon Gruden said he can defensive end in a 3-4 alignment, as well as the under tackle. He has demonstrated a great motor and is powerful as a pass-rusher.

--ILB Patrick Willis of Mississippi has turned heads with his explosiveness. South coach Mike Nolan said Willis has stood out more in the week of practice than NFL defensive rookie of the year DeMeco Ryans did a year ago.

--CB David Irons of Auburn has opened some eyes with his performance. Nolan admitted to knowing a lot about his brother, RB Kenny Irons, but not much about him when he got to Mobile. "I like his competitiveness and he makes a lot of plays on the ball," Nolan said.

--CB Leon Hall of Michigan has been solid. He is not expected to last into the second half of the first round, and the 49ers could give him a look if he's there at No. 11.

--S Eric Weddle of Utah, who played offense, defense and special teams in college, has opened some eyes with knack for finding the ball.

 

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