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MJD in 2007 - Not the featured back? (1 Viewer)
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Did Jax resign Fred?
Herd he wanted a hefty raise.
Herd he wanted a hefty raise.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
I watched an ESPN rookie season show where MJD was featured... seems like him and Freddy have a great relationship and were really supportive of each other.
as far as I know nothing is official but del rio seems confident they'll get a deal done. I'm on the record as saying this is a terrible time to trade for MJD, between taylor and jones he won't do what he did last year.
O RLY?Greg Jones.3 years7 TDs737 tards3.5 ypcYet MJD, surpasses Jones' 3 year totals in 8 games, Jones is somehow going to hurt MJD? Only thing Jones has proven is, that he more or less sucked ballz. If Taylor was 27, they'd cut Jones in a second. Jones is a decent goal line, short yardage RB. MJD is just a better short yardage, goal line RB. He's quicker, harder to bring down, better at finding the holes, and always falls forward. If it's 4th and 1 at the 1, I'm giving it to MJD. Not a 2nd rnd bust RB who's only proven he's average at best. Yes Jones is 250. My friend is 310, but I wouldn't want him as my goal line RB. Crappy players usually stay crappy, and good players usually stay good.If the only thing MJD has to worry about is Greg Jones, then he's a lock for top 5 RB. No one in JAX is going to be clamoring to get Jones his touches. EVERYONE will be making sure MJD gets his touches. He's a game breaker, he's deadly on 3rd down, he proven he's a very solid goal line RB, and he really carried JAX in a few games. The JAX OC isn't losing any sleep on trying to come up with plays for Greg Jones. Of course MJD is being classy, that's how he is. But if MJD gets 10-12 touches and they lose, you can expect MJD to get 20+ touches the next week. As a 5'8 212lb RB, you just don't come into the league and get 15 TDs unless you have special talent. Greg Jones isn't special talent. He's not even talent.I expect MJD to get the most touches week in and week out. And when they get inside the 5, I don't expect to see Jones taking out MJD.
streamkeeper
Footballguy
I think MJD's season is more dependant on Taylor and wherther or not he resigns. I wouldn't pay for the raise Taylor was reportedly asking for. Greg Jones is a non-factor.
H.K.
Footballguy
Overall very
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duaneok66
Footballguy
Del Rio loves Jones on the goal line . . . IF he is still on the team when the season starts, you're only kidding yourself to say that he will be a NON-FACTOR at RB . . .
You're right, he does love Jones on the goal line, Jones-Drew.
Routilla
Footballguy
MJD offers JAX something that none of their other RBs offer. The ability to run or catch and take it to the house. Plus he is so shifty that defenders have a hard time putting a hat on him. I pick at the beginning of the 3rd rd and I hope he's there. Hell, I may take him at the end of the 2nd.
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Mister CIA
Footballguy
It's pretty obvious you are trying to deal Greg Jones.
phthalatemagic
Footballguy
Sounds like he's just being prudent to me. Greg Jones doesn't have have a great year to cut into Drew's numbers. If Jones runs for 350 yards and 4 touchdowns (certainly possible) that's 350 yards and 4 touchdowns Drew didn't have. That's not a non-factor, any way you slice it.
Routilla
Footballguy
Unless that 350 yds and 4 TDs come from Fred Taylor's numbers.
jgb95
Footballguy
Fred did get a new contract:
March 1, 2007, 18:04
Jaguars :: RB
Jaguars, RB F. Taylor Agree On Extension
Sports Network
The Jaguars inked RB Fred Taylor to an extension Thursday which will reportedly add three years to his deal. The oft-injured back had a rebound year in 2006, starting 15 games and leading the team with 1,146 rushing yards on 231 carries and five touchdowns. Taylor and rookie RB Maurice Jones-Drew provided a potent one-two punch, and Jacksonville set a single-season franchise record for rushing yards with 2,541.
From NFLPA:
Salary History
2007 $800,000
2008 $4,000,000
2009 $5,000,000
2010 $6,000,000
Looks like a one year deal to me.
Don't know the bonus $$$
March 1, 2007, 18:04
Jaguars :: RB
Jaguars, RB F. Taylor Agree On Extension
Sports Network
The Jaguars inked RB Fred Taylor to an extension Thursday which will reportedly add three years to his deal. The oft-injured back had a rebound year in 2006, starting 15 games and leading the team with 1,146 rushing yards on 231 carries and five touchdowns. Taylor and rookie RB Maurice Jones-Drew provided a potent one-two punch, and Jacksonville set a single-season franchise record for rushing yards with 2,541.
From NFLPA:
Salary History
2007 $800,000
2008 $4,000,000
2009 $5,000,000
2010 $6,000,000
Looks like a one year deal to me.
Don't know the bonus $$$
Mister CIA
Footballguy
Del Rio loves MJD more than Greg Jones, if I may be "prudent."
Routilla
Footballguy
Yep, 1 year for 800k. No way they would pay him 4M in '08 even if he reproduces last year's numbers(which I doubt). It would not surprise me to see JAX draft another RB in the later rounds this year.
Our Gang
Footballguy
This guy is still on the roster as well:
The tailback-rich Jacksonville Jaguars retained some of their wealth at the position on Wednesday, re-signing unrestricted free agent LaBrandon Toefield to a one-year, $800,000 contract that returns him to the team that brought him into the league.
The retention of Toefield, 26, was somewhat surprising, in that the Jaguars already have two standout tailbacks in starter Fred Taylor and backup Maurice Jones-Drew, who combined for 2,087 yards in 2006. And it was believed that Toefield, whose playing time was slashed last season when Jacksonville added Jones-Drew, would seek a new home.
But the Jaguars' coaching staff wanted Toefield back and the four-year veteran did not find another offer to his liking, so he opted to return, with the knowledge that he can go back into the free-agent market again next spring. Toefield actually rejected a multiyear proposal from the Jaguars in favor of the one-year deal.
Toefield will receive a $200,000 signing bonus and a base salary of $600,000. He can earn as much as $300,000 in incentives based principally on rushing yards.
Miami, St. Louis and Pittsburgh demonstrated varying degrees of interest in Toefield, but none met his financial expectations. And while Toefield is No. 3 on the depth chart in Jacksonville, the reality is that Taylor is 31 now and that could present the opportunity for more carries in 2007.
A former LSU standout, Toefield, chosen in the fourth round of the 2003 draft, has rushed for 543 yards and six touchdowns on just 150 carries in his career. He has 45 catches for 273 yards and two touchdowns, and he has also returned kickoffs and played on special-teams coverage units
The tailback-rich Jacksonville Jaguars retained some of their wealth at the position on Wednesday, re-signing unrestricted free agent LaBrandon Toefield to a one-year, $800,000 contract that returns him to the team that brought him into the league.
The retention of Toefield, 26, was somewhat surprising, in that the Jaguars already have two standout tailbacks in starter Fred Taylor and backup Maurice Jones-Drew, who combined for 2,087 yards in 2006. And it was believed that Toefield, whose playing time was slashed last season when Jacksonville added Jones-Drew, would seek a new home.
But the Jaguars' coaching staff wanted Toefield back and the four-year veteran did not find another offer to his liking, so he opted to return, with the knowledge that he can go back into the free-agent market again next spring. Toefield actually rejected a multiyear proposal from the Jaguars in favor of the one-year deal.
Toefield will receive a $200,000 signing bonus and a base salary of $600,000. He can earn as much as $300,000 in incentives based principally on rushing yards.
Miami, St. Louis and Pittsburgh demonstrated varying degrees of interest in Toefield, but none met his financial expectations. And while Toefield is No. 3 on the depth chart in Jacksonville, the reality is that Taylor is 31 now and that could present the opportunity for more carries in 2007.
A former LSU standout, Toefield, chosen in the fourth round of the 2003 draft, has rushed for 543 yards and six touchdowns on just 150 carries in his career. He has 45 catches for 273 yards and two touchdowns, and he has also returned kickoffs and played on special-teams coverage units
(HULK)
(Smash)
This is very flawwed analysis. Greg Jones has done nothing to take away goalline touches from the other two, expect be fat.
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msommer
Footballguy
Don;t sell him short. He's been injured as well.
Holy Schneikes
Footballguy
I love it when guys look exclusively at stats and spout nonsense.
Jones may or may not be a fantasy factor for MJD this year, but to call him fat is one of the funniest things I've heard around here in a while.
This is not Lendale White we are talking about. Jones is BIG, but CERTAINLY not fat - dude is ripped.
Jones may or may not be a fantasy factor for MJD this year, but to call him fat is one of the funniest things I've heard around here in a while.
This is not Lendale White we are talking about. Jones is BIG, but CERTAINLY not fat - dude is ripped.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Holy Schneikes said:
I remember when the scouts at the combine said he had the body of a greek god.
(HULK)
(Smash)
I remember his entire NFL career where he ran with the speed and quickness of the Refrigerator Perry.Holy Schneikes said:I remember when the scouts at the combine said he had the body of a greek god.
You must have missed those games he had against Pitt and Balt in 2005 when he racked up a couple of hundred yards and two TDs combined.I remember his entire NFL career where he ran with the speed and quickness of the Refrigerator Perry.Holy Schneikes said:I remember when the scouts at the combine said he had the body of a greek god.
Holy Schneikes
Footballguy
You STILL seem to be missing the point. I didn't say he was great runner (I think he's better than you give him credit for, but that's an ENTIRELY different point). What I am saying is that you came in here and posted something based strictly on stats (or nothing at all) that COMPLETELY ruined your credibility on the subject. You have OBVIOUSLY never seen the guy or you wouldn't call him fat (I think he reported to his first camp at 3.6% body fat). So why post?Greg Jones has had some serious injuried that have cost him. He was actually pretty fast at one point and looked to be getting back there before the latest injury. Will he get back again? Don't know. I do doubt that he will put up good fantasy numbers any time soon. He was never a particularly quick guy (for his size, he's pretty darn quick, but compared to the average NFL starter not so much), and he may never be a featured runner. But when healthy, he IS good at what he does. You can't just look at the YPC of a guy who runs primarily in short yardage situations, call him "fat" and expect everyone to bow down to your vast FF insight.I remember his entire NFL career where he ran with the speed and quickness of the Refrigerator Perry.Holy Schneikes said:I remember when the scouts at the combine said he had the body of a greek god.
streamkeeper
Footballguy
Has anyone heard whether or not MJD will still be handling returns on special teams? Special team production was a large part of his scoring equation last season and it might be one of the benefts of Taylor staying in town.
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