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Dom Williams - return or not? (1 Viewer)

Iceman56751

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Attached are some articles from John McClain of the Houston Chronicle over the past 9 months - none of which sound very promising. Curious to know of others thoughts?

Third, for those of you who wonder how they could have passed up Bush knowing that Domanick Davis was injured, Double D was healthy going into camp. The team doctors, trainers, coaches, teammates and Davis himself pronounced him fit from the arthroscopic surgery he underwent on his knee in December. Davis suffered a new injury to the same knee on the second day of practice. He even went and got a second opinion in North Carolina. So, for everyone who thinks the Texans were dunces for not drafting Bush when Davis was injured, forget about it. They may be dunces for passing up Bush, all right, but not because they knew Davis was hurt. Before the draft, they were told Davis was on course to be ready for camp. And he was.

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Right about now, many of you are howling about Reggie Bush and the injustice of it all, right? Even though I've written this many, many times and said it on the radio a hundred times, I still get e-mails that are uninformed about what actually happened to Domanick Davis. This seems like a good time for a repeat. When Davis reported to training camp, he didn't have a problem with the knee injury he suffered last season and for which he underwent arthroscopic surgery. He practiced two times and suffered a severe bruise that was unrelated to the previous injury. After he sat out a while and did rehab and got a second opinion, he was told that his knee was never going to feel the way it used to feel. Too much wear and tear. But he was told that he should be able to play with it that way. He'd have to learn to play with pain.

Davis said he didn't want to play until he felt the way he used to feel. That wasn't going to happen. They'd reached a stalemate. Davis was placed on injured reserve. I don't think we'll ever see him play in another game.

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So one reason Kubiak passed up Bush is because he thought he'd have a healthy Davis, which didn't happen. Now, of course, they've got to rely on Wali Lundy, Ron Dayne and Samkon Gado. By the way, Gado is a hoot. Not only is he articulate and polite, but he's funny, too. Reporters love well-spoken players who are clever and have a sense of humor. We're hoping Gado plays more. No wonder Green Bay fans liked him so much.

It's good that rookie Wali Lundy and second-year veteran Vernand Morency have looked good in the one-cut system because Domanick Davis won't play this year. I'll be shocked if they don't put him on injured reserve. This week, I wrote that he could be cut because that was what I had been told, without naming who told me. A day later, they'd changed their tune. If you waive an injured player, you have to reach an injury settlement. If the player has healed, then you don't owe him anything other than what he's already collected. That's why they decided not to cut Davis.

 
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I'm confused by this post - do you think you could put things into the quote tag? It's [ quote ] at the beginning, [ /quote ] at the end (but without the spaces).

 
I think the title needs to be changed to Dom Davis instead of Dom Williams
No...Dom Davis is now Dom Williams as he legally changed his name. The post is some confusing mix of quoted material and opinion otherwise.

 
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I think the title needs to be changed to Dom Davis instead of Dom Williams
No...Dom Davis is now Dom Williams as he legally changed his name. The post is some confusing mix of quoted material and opinion otherwise.
True. He changed his name.But it would be helpful, since not everyone knows he changed his name to label him as Domanick Williams (formerly Domanick Davis). Sort of like Prince.

 
I think the title needs to be changed to Dom Davis instead of Dom Williams
No...Dom Davis is now Dom Williams as he legally changed his name. The post is some confusing mix of quoted material and opinion otherwise.
True. He changed his name.But it would be helpful, since not everyone knows he changed his name to label him as Domanick Williams (formerly Domanick Davis). Sort of like Prince.
You mean "the RB who was formally over discussed on these boards because he was a better fantasy option than NFL player"
 
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I think the title needs to be changed to Dom Davis instead of Dom Williams
No...Dom Davis is now Dom Williams as he legally changed his name. The post is some confusing mix of quoted material and opinion otherwise.
True. He changed his name.But it would be helpful, since not everyone knows he changed his name to label him as Domanick Williams (formerly Domanick Davis). Sort of like Prince.
You mean "the RB who was formally over discussed on these boards because he was a better fantasy option than NFL player"
Hey, with that name, maybe he'll entertain at SB half time :lol:
 
I just don't see his knee holding up...I think he will return but I don't think he will return to his old form!

 
Iceman,

I'm looking/waiting for a recent article.

Much of the previous talk is just guys spouting off ideas. I'm looking for thoughts after surgery and after rehab. That should tell us if he's capable of playing.

Kubiak seemed annoyed he got hurt last summer. Almost like it'd be wrong to say so but he's still annoyed. Since it was a new injury last summer(new from injury in December) it's possible the doctors are what annoyed Kubiak. I imagine there was second guessing about the doctors/trainers thinking his knee was strong enough. Kubiak walked into that and while we don't find out about team doctors, trainers, physical therapists losing their jobs there's little doubt in my mind that someone's head rolled(or will) this offseason.

All in all though, I did not get the impression the Texans wanted him back. I think that's what McCain's alluding to when he says he thought they'd cut him. When annoyed I imagine the thought is "let's just cut him" but once a cooler head prevails it's "well he's got value, we should wait." Nothing with Davis/Williams has been handled well by them, waiting until they know for sure whether that knee can handle the NFL seems to be the only option now.

It's also possible Kubiak never wanted Dom as his type of back but saw trade value in him; and that with Casserly on his way out and replacing him, that made it difficult to move Dom. By the time all that settled, he was hurt again. That would have made Kubiak seem annoyed too.

 
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If peterson falls to them, he for sure is done with houston. I think he is done either way, pretty sure I will be cutting him this spring from my team. Maybe he could be a third down back for some team???

 
I just can't see them paying a guy with one good leg 3.34 Million next year in salary and over 4 million in 2008 and 2009. Not sure what kind of roster bouns he has if any.

 
Dom Williams is done in the NFL.

He has the same condition this season as he did last season - degenerative cartiledge in his knee. This condition does not heal or lessen over time, to the contrary, it will only worsen with wear. If Dom couldn't practice consecutive days at full strength last offseason, which he couldn't, he will not be able to do it this offseason.

Look for him to be cut post Jun 1.

 
He shouldn't be trying to come back. He should be trying to baby his knees from here on out, so he doesn't have to have a total knee replacement at 30.

 
If peterson falls to them, he for sure is done with houston. I think he is done either way, pretty sure I will be cutting him this spring from my team. Maybe he could be a third down back for some team???
Why would you think they would take Peterson with the 8th pick...They passsed on Reggie Bush for Mario Freaking Williams for goodness sake...I don't expect Peterson to be there at #8 and if he is I don't expect Texans management to select him anyway...I also do not expect DD to play in the NFL anymore... How many successful bone-on-bone runningbacks have had success in the NFL, I don't know the answer?If they cannot pick up a FA on the cheap (I like William Green here) I think they will go with some combination of Lundy, Taylor with Dayne as the goaline/short yardage back and will select a running back in the 3rd round. Remember everyone thinks that Kubiak can perform miracles and does not believe in using high picks for runningbacks. When you let a prospect like Reggie Bush get by you, letting Peterson slip is really no big deal...
 
BoneYardDog said:
mozzy84 said:
If peterson falls to them, he for sure is done with houston. I think he is done either way, pretty sure I will be cutting him this spring from my team. Maybe he could be a third down back for some team???
Why would you think they would take Peterson with the 8th pick...They passsed on Reggie Bush for Mario Freaking Williams for goodness sake...

I don't expect Peterson to be there at #8 and if he is I don't expect Texans management to select him anyway...

I also do not expect DD to play in the NFL anymore...

How many successful bone-on-bone runningbacks have had success in the NFL, I don't know the answer?

If they cannot pick up a FA on the cheap (I like William Green here) I think they will go with some combination of Lundy, Taylor with Dayne as the goaline/short yardage back and will select a running back in the 3rd round. Remember everyone thinks that Kubiak can perform miracles and does not believe in using high picks for runningbacks.

When you let a prospect like Reggie Bush get by you, letting Peterson slip is really no big deal...
I actually believe the opposite may be true: they may draft Peterson because they skipped over Bush so that they can placate the fan base; plus, Peterson's a pretty damn good prospect who played in the region. Remember, Texans fans will also be seeing Vince Young twice a year to remind them of another potential draft day gaffe.
 
FWIW, this is the latest on the blogger:

Updated: Jan. 1, 2007, 8:24 PM ET

Houston's Davis not Davis any moreAssociated Press

National Football League News Wire

HOUSTON -- Domanick Davis appeared in Houston's locker room

Monday with a new haircut and a new attitude. But the biggest

change is in his name.

"I'm a new man," he said. "That was Domanick Davis that y'all

knew about. This is Domanick Williams that y'all looking at."

The Texans' franchise leading rusher, who spent this season on

the injured reserve with a knee problem, has legally changed his

last name from Davis to Williams, his mother's maiden name.

He said that Davis was the last name of the father of his older

brother and he never felt right about having his name.

"I had to do it and it was time. I didn't want my kids to grow

up carrying something else that I'm really not," said Williams,

the father of two young children. "I felt like it was the perfect

time for me to do it. Come back fresh, come back new."

He's also dumping the No. 37 jersey he's worn since arriving in

Houston in 2003 to wear No. 31, which was his number throughout

high school and college.

"So I'm coming back as a new person altogether," he said,

sporting a short shaven haircut, after wearing braids for much of

the last year. "It's going to be crazy, but I had to make my

move."

Williams said he is feeling great and he can't wait to get back

on the field.

"I wouldn't say I'm 100 percent, but it's close," he said.

"It's on its way and it's going real good. My knee is allowing me

to lift heavy weight without swelling up and that was the biggest

problem I had."

The 26-year-old, who has 3,195 yards rushing and 23 touchdowns

in three NFL seasons, said it has been difficult to sit out for so

long.

"I didn't watch not one game and it's not that I didn't care,

because I care," he said. "But it was my way of dealing with it

because it would hurt me in another kind of way. So I just focused

on what I had to do to get myself back."

"A new name, a new haircut, new clothes -- let's hope he has a

new knee," Texans cornerback Dunta Robinson joked upon hearing the

news.

While Robinson's comments were in jest, the health of Williams

is a big question mark for the Texans as they prepare for next

season.

Williams missed five games in 2005 before undergoing

arthroscopic knee surgery after his knee swelled and ached each

time he played. He returned for training camp and declared himself

healthy, but soon stopped practicing because of what coaches called

a bone bruise in his knee.

Houston placed him on the injured reserve just days before the

season, leaving a hole at the position. The Texans signed Ron Dayne

two days later, but it didn't immediately help the situation as the

1999 Heisman Trophy winner was still bothered by a toe injury.

The Texans resorted to a running back by committee system, with

rookie Wali Lundy, Samkon Gado and Dayne splitting carries. Dayne

was finally healthy near the end of the season and had the best

four-game stretch of his career, running for 429 yards and five

touchdowns in that span.

The emergence of Dayne and a healthy Williams coupled with Lundy

and Gado, will create a crowded backfield for the Texans and raises

questions about who will remain on the team. Williams is scheduled

to make $3.34 million next season in the third year of a five-year

deal. Dayne is an unrestricted free agent the Texans likely could

keep for much cheaper.

"I would definitely like to stay here," Dayne said. "I'm glad

they gave me the opportunity and chance to come play and show what

I can do."

 
Iceman,I'm looking/waiting for a recent article. Much of the previous talk is just guys spouting off ideas. I'm looking for thoughts after surgery and after rehab. That should tell us if he's capable of playing.Kubiak seemed annoyed he got hurt last summer. Almost like it'd be wrong to say so but he's still annoyed. Since it was a new injury last summer(new from injury in December) it's possible the doctors are what annoyed Kubiak. I imagine there was second guessing about the doctors/trainers thinking his knee was strong enough. Kubiak walked into that and while we don't find out about team doctors, trainers, physical therapists losing their jobs there's little doubt in my mind that someone's head rolled(or will) this offseason. All in all though, I did not get the impression the Texans wanted him back. I think that's what McCain's alluding to when he says he thought they'd cut him. When annoyed I imagine the thought is "let's just cut him" but once a cooler head prevails it's "well he's got value, we should wait." Nothing with Davis/Williams has been handled well by them, waiting until they know for sure whether that knee can handle the NFL seems to be the only option now.It's also possible Kubiak never wanted Dom as his type of back but saw trade value in him; and that with Casserly on his way out and replacing him, that made it difficult to move Dom. By the time all that settled, he was hurt again. That would have made Kubiak seem annoyed too.
:goodposting:
 
He was never all that good, IMO. Factor in health issues and he's pretty :goodposting: at this point.

 
Radio report (no link yet) that Davis now Williams had a MRI on his knee because something did not feel right. No results in the report.

 
In the press conference for Ahman Green, Rick Smith said that DomWilliams had been doing strength training and experienced swelling. Basically, Dom's future is up in the air and that he mayneed additional surgery. I will post a link once the transcript from the press conference is available.

 
In the press conference for Ahman Green, Rick Smith said that DomWilliams had been doing strength training and experienced swelling. Basically, Dom's future is up in the air and that he mayneed additional surgery. I will post a link once the transcript from the press conference is available.
I read that Houston is expected to release him, but that is just speculation.
 
In the press conference for Ahman Green, Rick Smith said that DomWilliams had been doing strength training and experienced swelling. Basically, Dom's future is up in the air and that he mayneed additional surgery. I will post a link once the transcript from the press conference is available.
I read that Houston is expected to release him, but that is just speculation.
Honestly, most Texans fans thought the he would be cut or restructured before FA started
 
In the press conference for Ahman Green, Rick Smith said that DomWilliams had been doing strength training and experienced swelling. Basically, Dom's future is up in the air and that he mayneed additional surgery. I will post a link once the transcript from the press conference is available.
Ugh, the guy has had how long to get his knee right? I was reserving judgment on him until I read this. I think he's done now. Too bad for the guy, I hope he saved his money wisely.
 
Swelling will probably be normal for Dom for a long time. ALOT of swelling would be an indicator of something quite bad.

 
In the press conference for Ahman Green, Rick Smith said that DomWilliams had been doing strength training and experienced swelling. Basically, Dom's future is up in the air and that he mayneed additional surgery. I will post a link once the transcript from the press conference is available.
I read that Houston is expected to release him, but that is just speculation.
Honestly, most Texans fans thought the he would be cut or restructured before FA started
And the reason he wasn't makes me wonder what's up
 
Swelling will probably be normal for Dom for a long time. ALOT of swelling would be an indicator of something quite bad.
As far as I'm concerned, if they bother to make note of it in the PC, then it's enough swelling to be concerned. If it was typical swelling for a guy doing normal rehab, I don't think it would have been mentioned.
 
Swelling will probably be normal for Dom for a long time. ALOT of swelling would be an indicator of something quite bad.
As far as I'm concerned, if they bother to make note of it in the PC, then it's enough swelling to be concerned. If it was typical swelling for a guy doing normal rehab, I don't think it would have been mentioned.
Not in my experience. Reporters often just run with the swelling and forget to ask if that's normal. Instead I'd ask myself who wrote it? if someone good then I'd agree with ya
 
Swelling will probably be normal for Dom for a long time. ALOT of swelling would be an indicator of something quite bad.
As far as I'm concerned, if they bother to make note of it in the PC, then it's enough swelling to be concerned. If it was typical swelling for a guy doing normal rehab, I don't think it would have been mentioned.
Not in my experience. Reporters often just run with the swelling and forget to ask if that's normal. Instead I'd ask myself who wrote it? if someone good then I'd agree with ya
to my understanding Smith the GM said he experienced swelling in a PC. This wasn't a writer stating it. I guess to be prudent I should look up the transcripts of the PC or find the video, but I'd hate to start making good decisions so late in life
 
Dom Williams is done in the NFL.He has the same condition this season as he did last season - degenerative cartiledge in his knee. This condition does not heal or lessen over time, to the contrary, it will only worsen with wear. If Dom couldn't practice consecutive days at full strength last offseason, which he couldn't, he will not be able to do it this offseason. Look for him to be cut post Jun 1.
Saved me from posting it myself. :lmao:
 
Swelling will probably be normal for Dom for a long time. ALOT of swelling would be an indicator of something quite bad.
As far as I'm concerned, if they bother to make note of it in the PC, then it's enough swelling to be concerned. If it was typical swelling for a guy doing normal rehab, I don't think it would have been mentioned.
Not in my experience. Reporters often just run with the swelling and forget to ask if that's normal. Instead I'd ask myself who wrote it? if someone good then I'd agree with ya
I'd say the Ahman Green signing is a pretty good indicator of how well DD's knee is doing.Dude is finished. I know alot of you dynasty guys don't want to believe it, but the writing was on the wall two years ago.
 
Swelling will probably be normal for Dom for a long time. ALOT of swelling would be an indicator of something quite bad.
As far as I'm concerned, if they bother to make note of it in the PC, then it's enough swelling to be concerned. If it was typical swelling for a guy doing normal rehab, I don't think it would have been mentioned.
Not in my experience. Reporters often just run with the swelling and forget to ask if that's normal. Instead I'd ask myself who wrote it? if someone good then I'd agree with ya
to my understanding Smith the GM said he experienced swelling in a PC. This wasn't a writer stating it. I guess to be prudent I should look up the transcripts of the PC or find the video, but I'd hate to start making good decisions so late in life
:goodposting:
 
Swelling will probably be normal for Dom for a long time. ALOT of swelling would be an indicator of something quite bad.
As far as I'm concerned, if they bother to make note of it in the PC, then it's enough swelling to be concerned. If it was typical swelling for a guy doing normal rehab, I don't think it would have been mentioned.
Not in my experience. Reporters often just run with the swelling and forget to ask if that's normal. Instead I'd ask myself who wrote it? if someone good then I'd agree with ya
to my understanding Smith the GM said he experienced swelling in a PC. This wasn't a writer stating it. I guess to be prudent I should look up the transcripts of the PC or find the video, but I'd hate to start making good decisions so late in life
here is the portion of the transcript that matters for this conversasionhttp://www.houstontexans.com/news/detail.p...20Latest%20News

on the status of RB Domanick Williams) “Domanick actually went and visited the doctor. He had some swelling in his knee. He’s been doing a really nice job in the rehab process and it actually had gotten to a point in the rehab process where he was strength training more than anything. He had some swelling in his knee a couple of weeks ago and we sent him to a specialist in Atlanta, and he’s going to have to have some additional surgery, so the jury’s still out on where he is in his rehab process. He did experience a setback, so we’re not sure what’s going to happen with Domanick.”
 
I'll be surprised if he makes it back.. he may try to comeback, but with his knee condition it doesn't bode well and I just don't see him ever starting another game in the NFL. Too bad really, because he was fun to watch and a solid two-way threat out of the backfield.

 
ouch.

Texans RB Undergoes More Surgery

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The Texans likely won’t get starting running back Domanick Williams back any time soon. Davis missed all of last year with a knee injury and general manager Rick Smith said Monday that Davis’ knee has been swelling during rehab and he soon will undergo another surgery on it.

“So the jury’s still out on where he’s at in his rehab process,” Smith said. “We’re not sure what’s going to happen with Domanick at this point.”
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/detail.p...20Latest%20News
 

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