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NY Giants Offseason 2007 (1 Viewer)

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Didnt see a thread for Big Blue anywhere

Made some cuts today. Emmons, Arrington and Pettigout gone

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EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. – The Giants today began the offseason restructuring of their roster when they released three veterans, offensive tackle Luke Petitgout and linebackers Carlos Emmons and LaVar Arrington.

Two of the players are former first-round draft choices (Petitgout by the Giants, Arrington by the Washington Redskins). Petitgout has played his entire career with the Giants. Arrington spent one season in New Jersey after six years in the nation’s capital. Emmons played four years in both Pittsburgh and Philadelphia before spending the last three seasons with the Giants.

Petitgout and Arrington had their 2006 seasons ended prematurely because of injury, while Emmons missed four games with a pectoral injury.

“Luke has been a valuable performer for our team,” Giants general manager Jerry Reese said. “Throughout his career he showed his versatility and toughness. Because of that, this was a difficult decision, but it was one we felt we had to make to take the first steps in improving our team for 2007. Carlos has had a tough time staying on the field consistently because of injuries the past couple years. LaVar's situation is unfortunate because he was just starting to really become a factor in our defense at the time of his injury."

Petitgout joined the Giants as the 19th overall selection of the 1999 NFL Draft. In his eight years with the team, the 6-6, 310-pounder played in 113 games with 106 starts and played left guard and both tackle positions. Petitgout was an integral member of the offensive line that helped Tiki Barber set franchise records while rushing for 5,050 yards from 2004-06.

As a rookie, Petitgout played left guard and started eight of the first nine games before being replaced by Mike Rosenthal, his former teammate at Notre Dame. In 2000 and 2001, Petitgout started every game – including three postseason contests – at right tackle. He was named to Sports Illustrated’s All-Pro team in 2001.

Petitgout moved to left tackle in 2002 and played there the last five seasons. When a back injury forced him to miss a game against Dallas on Sept. 15, 2003, it ended a streak of 49 consecutive starts. He played in 10 games that year, but started all 16 games in 2004 and 15 in 2005.

This season, Petitgout started the first nine games of the season before fracturing his left fibula in the first half of a game against Chicago on Nov. 12. He was inactive for six games as the Giants hoped he would be able to return late in the season. But when Petitgout failed to make sufficient progress in his recovery, he was placed on injured reserve on Dec. 26.

Emmons joined the Giants as an unrestricted free agent on March 5, 2004. Injuries limited him to 36 games in his three seasons with the Giants.

In 2006, Emmons started all 12 games in which he played, seven at strongside linebacker and five on the weak side. He started the season’s first three games at weakside backer, Games 7-8 on the strong side, Games 10-11 on the weak side and the final five games of the season, plus the NFC Wild Card Game in Philadelphia, at strongside linebacker. Emmons missed four games with a pectoral injury suffered on Sept. 24 at Seattle. He finished the season fifth on the team with 70 tackles (44 solo) and a sack.

In 2005, Emmons played in nine games with eight starts - five on the strong side and three on the weak side. He had 49 tackles (35 solo), 1 interception and 5 passes defensed before being placed on injured reserve with a pectoral injury on Dec. 27.

Emmons’ finest season with the Giants was in 1994, when he started all 15 games in which he played at strongside linebacker and led the team with 97 tackles (62 solo), a sack and three passes defensed.

In his four years in Philadelphia, Emmons established himself as one of the NFL’s premier strongside linebackers, averaging 110 tackles a season from 2000-2003. Emmons entered the NFL as a seventh-round draft choice (the 242nd overall selection) by the Steelers in 1996. He was a four-year starter at Arkansas State from 1992-95.

Arrington joined the Giants on April 24, 2006 after playing six seasons for the Redskins. The second overall pick of the 2000 NFL Draft out of Penn State, Arrington was a Pro Bowler every season from 2001-03, when he was considered one of the NFL’s most dynamic linebackers.

A knee injury limited him to four games in 2005 and 13 (with eight starts) in his final season in Washington in 2005.

Arrington’s only Giants season was cut short when he tore his Achilles tendon at Dallas on Oct. 23. The injury required surgery and forced him to go on injured reserve. Ironically, Arrington was playing his finest game of the season the night he was hurt. He started at strongside linebacker and sacked Cowboys quarterback Drew Bledsoe for a safety. Arrington later deflected a Bledsoe pass on a flea-flicker that could have resulted in a long gain.

In his brief Giants tenure, Arrington played in six games with five starts on the strong side. He did not start against his former team, the Redskins, on Oct. 8 because the Giants opened the game with an extra defensive back. Arrington finished his shortened season with 17 tackles (11 solo), a sack and two passes defensed.

Arrington’s career totals include 484 tackles (346 solo), 23.5 sacks, 11 forced fumbles, seven fumble recoveries and three interceptions.

“These are difficult decisions,” Giants head coach Tom Coughlin said. “But as Jerry and I looked at the roster, they are decisions we felt we had to make as we start to compose our team for the upcoming season. Luke has been a tough competitor here, and he was really playing well before his injury last season. Carlos gave us everything he had, but his injuries the last couple years kept him from being the kind of player we know he is. LaVar was only here a short time, but as a coach, I couldn't have asked for more from a veteran player in terms of his desire and his enthusiasm."
 
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Didnt see a thread for Big Blue anywhere

Made some cuts today. Emmons, Arrington and Pettigout gone

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This is a good sign from the article“These are difficult decisions,” Giants head coach Tom Coughlin said. “But as Jerry and I looked at the roster, they are decisions we felt we had to make as we start to compose our team for the upcoming season. Luke has been a tough competitor here, and he was really playing well before his injury last season. Carlos gave us everything he had, but his injuries the last couple years kept him from being the kind of player we know he is. LaVar was only here a short time, but as a coach, I couldn't have asked for more from a veteran player in terms of his desire and his enthusiasm."

Good to see coach and GM in agreement.

I expect Luke to be re-signed if he'll accept less but he probably has to test the market first. He's a good T but he's not great.

The G-men freed up alot of money today, probably not coincidentally Tiki retired today too.

Pierce is hounding Briggs to join the G-men. I would imagine there's another lineman targetted by them OR one of the top DBs. IMO the two most pressing needs on that team(now) and there had to be a plan/reason to free up so much money.

 
How much $$ does this free up exactly?!?

I, for one, am very happy to see Petitgout go. Emmons looked VERY slow out there (when he was on the field). Arrington was a bit of a shock considering the coin they put up to get him.

Corner, DT and OL should be THE focus this offseason.

 
How much $$ does this free up exactly?!? I, for one, am very happy to see Petitgout go. Emmons looked VERY slow out there (when he was on the field). Arrington was a bit of a shock considering the coin they put up to get him.Corner, DT and OL should be THE focus this offseason.
No clue of any exact #.Once a player's cut, the latest CBA allows for a team to apply a bonus against the current cap or the following year. I imagine the same applies to retirement. With the end of the NFL contract year soon(March) ya gotta figure they wanted to apply some to 06 before it was gone.
 
Thanks for the post. Good moves overall, especially if they get Pettigout back at a discounted price.

I had been one of Pettigouts biggest critics, but he really seemed to have matured this past year and then boom, he got hurt. He is a good T, not great, as mentioned... but even that is tough to come by in the NFL.

Lavar looked like he was beginning to get some kind of groove when he went down, but the guy makes you want to chase the dragon. So much raw talent but it hasnt really ever translated.

Emmons was a solid professional but no longer brought anything to the table on the field.

Briggs, eh? Tell me more.

 
Thanks for the post. Good moves overall, especially if they get Pettigout back at a discounted price.I had been one of Pettigouts biggest critics, but he really seemed to have matured this past year and then boom, he got hurt. He is a good T, not great, as mentioned... but even that is tough to come by in the NFL. Lavar looked like he was beginning to get some kind of groove when he went down, but the guy makes you want to chase the dragon. So much raw talent but it hasnt really ever translated.Emmons was a solid professional but no longer brought anything to the table on the field.Briggs, eh? Tell me more.
LT's do not grow on trees and Luke was fairly solid. While he played through issues, his back was probably the biggest reason they will try and sign him for less.Emmons might have been gutsy but if you look at the tape, he was AWFUL and one of the biggest liabilities on defense.Arrington is all about the dollars and is not worth a high ticket number. For a reasonable price he would be OK. The Giants could use another OLB and CB. Then I would lock up a good LT and possibly another OL guy as Eli needs some protection. The unit is a good run blocking unit and a bad pass protecting unit. I would like to see McKenzie moved to guard as he is a road grader run blocker and a turnstile pass blocker (usually gets beat around him)Finally, Moss did not show anything this year, but he has one more year to show me something. The Giants could use another reliable receiver. if Shockey could stay healthy he would be the ticket, but he is always so banged up that he is an average TE.
 
surprised by this a little

Quotes: LB Antonio Pierce on LB Gerris Wilkinson: "He showed there at the end of the season that he's capable of being very good. He didn’t get a chance until the end there, but he’s got what it takes to succeed."

Good teammate comment OK, but if he's in their plans to start I'm a little surprised

 
Briggs, eh? Tell me more.
He and Pierce are close close friends. Google Pierce interview and pick an interview any interview and you'll see he's rrrrrrrrreally into the idea of the Giants signing his friend. Briggs hasn't said anything of note really.Many think the Bears will franchise him.
 
Briggs, eh? Tell me more.
He and Pierce are close close friends. Google Pierce interview and pick an interview any interview and you'll see he's rrrrrrrrreally into the idea of the Giants signing his friend. Briggs hasn't said anything of note really.Many think the Bears will franchise him.
Briggs outplayed Urlacher over the last 5 games of the year. He is excellent and I would open up my wallet for him. Watch the playoffs and Briggs was flat out better than Urlacher (who over pursues and gets blocked a little too easy). BU is great in coverage though.BTW, I wanted to clarify my previous post when I mentioned moving McKenzie to guard. I like Diel and would move him to center.
 
NY Giants 2007 Offseason Plan:

1) Extend the worst coach in the NFC East

2) Promote a retread offensive coordinator best known for the run n shoot

3) Hire a life coach to convince Eli Manning that he really IS a winner

4) Hope that Michael Strahan has another year left in him

5) Fall further behind the Eagles and Cowboys

:goodposting:

 
NY Giants 2007 Offseason Plan:1) Extend the worst coach in the NFC East2) Promote a retread offensive coordinator best known for the run n shoot3) Hire a life coach to convince Eli Manning that he really IS a winner4) Hope that Michael Strahan has another year left in him5) Fall further behind the Eagles and Cowboys:confused:
That whole division needs to consider investing in an extra fullback as an extra "last line of defense". It seems every team has all pro level passrushers that can "bring it". BTW The Giants 3 headed monster at DE was injured much of 2006 but good luck stopping them if all 3 are healthy.
 
Jason Wood said:
NY Giants 2007 Offseason Plan:1) Extend the worst coach in the NFC East2) Promote a retread offensive coordinator best known for the run n shoot3) Hire a life coach to convince Eli Manning that he really IS a winner4) Hope that Michael Strahan has another year left in him5) Fall further behind the Eagles and Cowboys:goodposting:
:hot:It's better than worrying about if the coach will be around and continue to neglect his family (TRUE PHILLY STYLE!). That and if the fragile backfield that Philly employs can last through the season.
 
Jason Wood said:
NY Giants 2007 Offseason Plan:1) Extend the worst coach in the NFC East2) Promote a retread offensive coordinator best known for the run n shoot3) Hire a life coach to convince Eli Manning that he really IS a winner4) Hope that Michael Strahan has another year left in him5) Fall further behind the Eagles and Cowboys:goodposting:
:hot:It's better than worrying about if the coach will be around and continue to neglect his family (TRUE PHILLY STYLE!). That and if the fragile backfield that Philly employs can last through the season.
Hey, take it easy on the guy. It must really hurt to have NEVER won a championship.Ever.
 
Can anybody give me a scouting report on Cool Hand Luke? He looked pretty solid from what I saw, but I don't watch alot of Giants games. I'm thinking the Browns may make a run at him.

 
Can anybody give me a scouting report on Cool Hand Luke? He looked pretty solid from what I saw, but I don't watch alot of Giants games. I'm thinking the Browns may make a run at him.
I would like to see him in Arizona, then re-sign Davis for guard money. Sign a FA CB, get a couple of defensive starters in the draft and we might just see the unthinkable in the desert :goodposting:
 
Whitfield retired, as expected. G-men are down their starting T and backup now
To be specific, Whitfield was benched week 17 in favor of David Diehl (who moved to LT from RG) for being rediculously ineffective. So Whitfield did not end the season as the backup LT to Pettigout; David Diehl did.
 
NY Giants 2007 Offseason Plan:

1) Extend the worst coach in the NFC East

2) Promote a retread offensive coordinator best known for the run n shoot

3) Hire a life coach to convince Eli Manning that he really IS a winner

4) Hope that Michael Strahan has another year left in him

5) Fall further behind the Eagles and Cowboys

:shrug:
:goodposting: It's better than worrying about if the coach will be around and continue to neglect his family (TRUE PHILLY STYLE!). That and if the fragile backfield that Philly employs can last through the season.
Hey, take it easy on the guy. It must really hurt to have NEVER won a championship Superbowl.Ever.
Fixed. Philly did win a Championship before the SBs started.
 
Briggs, eh? Tell me more.
He and Pierce are close close friends. Google Pierce interview and pick an interview any interview and you'll see he's rrrrrrrrreally into the idea of the Giants signing his friend. Briggs hasn't said anything of note really.Many think the Bears will franchise him.
Briggs outplayed Urlacher over the last 5 games of the year. He is excellent and I would open up my wallet for him. Watch the playoffs and Briggs was flat out better than Urlacher (who over pursues and gets blocked a little too easy). BU is great in coverage though.BTW, I wanted to clarify my previous post when I mentioned moving McKenzie to guard. I like Diel and would move him to center.
I will be shocked if the Bears let Briggs hit the market. Bears have tons of cap space this year and in the future. Jerry A has done an amazing job of signing players right before their prime (Briggs is an exception where he even made it to the FA year). When contracts of folks like Tommie Harris come up, by then contracts of people like Olin Kreutz, Mike Brown will be almost done. Also, Angelo has been very smart to front load contracts in many cases when we had cap space every year (for eg John Tait got a much larger cap impactive # in his 1st 2 years than any other year since he was transition tagged by the CHiefs; same thing with Olin Kreutz since Miami wanted him too). This helps to keep the salary cap space very healthy every year. There is no one on the FA market that the Bears really need to sign. Just franchise Briggs and some vets will sign with the Bears for cheap too since they are on the cusp of a championship. :goodposting:
 
Whitfield retired, as expected. G-men are down their starting T and backup now
To be specific, Whitfield was benched week 17 in favor of David Diehl (who moved to LT from RG) for being rediculously ineffective. So Whitfield did not end the season as the backup LT to Pettigout; David Diehl did.
I didn't notice that.How'd Diehl do in your opinion?For sake of discussion only-Suppose the G-men plan on him being the LT. Too much off just one game? You're OK with that?
 
Pettigout was having his best season in a number of years prior to the injury. He can probably help another team next year the Giants were just being proactive about managing the cap and wanted to get younger/ healthier across the board.

Also they are very high on Guy Whimper and he will get a real shot to start at LT. He has all the tools, just not the experience. If he's not ready right away they are very confident Diehl can hold the fort (except for one glitch he was very solid filling in the last couple games).

If Shaun O'Hara can't be had for a reasonable price they will likely slide Rich Seubert to C. McKenzie is a RT and is not going anywhere.

 
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Whitfield retired, as expected. G-men are down their starting T and backup now
To be specific, Whitfield was benched week 17 in favor of David Diehl (who moved to LT from RG) for being rediculously ineffective. So Whitfield did not end the season as the backup LT to Pettigout; David Diehl did.
I didn't notice that.How'd Diehl do in your opinion?For sake of discussion only-Suppose the G-men plan on him being the LT. Too much off just one game? You're OK with that?
Pettigout's cutting surprised me since he was having one one his better seasons before his leg injury. But Jerry Reece seems to be trying to take a proactive approach to the Giants injury woes of recent years and relentlessly get rid of the older guys who have often been hurt and Pettigout's back problems were a recurring issue. I also won't miss Pettigout's perpetual, drive killing false start penalties.As for the Diehl, he is a very strong and versatile O-lineman (he has played all over the O-line), I just never thought of him as a natural LT; meaning I didn't think he had the necessary footwork for the position. I was, however, pleasantly surprised with the solid performance he put up in Wildcard weekend against the Eagles, who can definitely rush the passer. He's probably a better run blocker than pass rusher, but I'm cautiously optimistic he can do a solid job at the position. Oh yeah. He has never missed a start in his 4 year career.As an above poster mentioned, the Giants brass seems to like Guy Whimper as well (one of the worst football names ever :no: ) but being a "project" LT when drafted last year, I would expect the Whimper will be competing for the backup job this year and being assessed for his potential to start in a year or two.
 
Likely free agent targets

OT Leonard Davis: He's huge (6-6, 365) and athletic, though he has yet to fulfill the potential the Cardinals thought he had when they drafted him No. 2 overall in 2001.

S Michael Lewis: He fell out of favor in Philly and lost his starting job. But he has ability and played well while Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo was the Eagles' defensive backs coach.

CB Rod Hood: Another former Eagle who could be in the mix, especially since none of the Giants cornerbacks have distinguished themselves.

RB Dominic Rhodes: The Colts' leading rusher in the Super Bowl, he'd be a perfect complement to Jacobs. The only question is if his recent DUI arrest will scare the Giants away.

LB Brian Simmons: The 10-year veteran was released by the Bengals on Wednesday. He has played both outside positions, which makes him a perfect fit for the Giants' current situation.

 
I can comment on the former Eagles:

S Michael Lewis: He fell out of favor in Philly and lost his starting job. But he has ability and played well while Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo was the Eagles' defensive backs coach.
Don't sugar coat this. Lewis was benched because his coverage skills are nonexistant and he was giving up big plays EVERY GAME. It means nothing who his coach was at any given time. He's a good run defender and hits like a truck, but he's not starting Safety material.
CB Rod Hood: Another former Eagle who could be in the mix, especially since none of the Giants cornerbacks have distinguished themselves.
Hood is a good player. Solid but unspectacular. He will cash in somewhere.
 
Likely free agent targets

OT Leonard Davis: He's huge (6-6, 365) and athletic, though he has yet to fulfill the potential the Cardinals thought he had when they drafted him No. 2 overall in 2001.

S Michael Lewis: He fell out of favor in Philly and lost his starting job. But he has ability and played well while Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo was the Eagles' defensive backs coach.

CB Rod Hood: Another former Eagle who could be in the mix, especially since none of the Giants cornerbacks have distinguished themselves.

RB Dominic Rhodes: The Colts' leading rusher in the Super Bowl, he'd be a perfect complement to Jacobs. The only question is if his recent DUI arrest will scare the Giants away.

LB Brian Simmons: The 10-year veteran was released by the Bengals on Wednesday. He has played both outside positions, which makes him a perfect fit for the Giants' current situation.
Out of these, Hood is the only one I would want on the Giants.
 
Ok so what are the Giants planning on doing in free agency?

Of the 'likely targets' they have only talked to Rhodes.

 
Do any of you think part of the problem with the Giants signing FAs has to do with Tom Coughlin being their head coach? He is known as a dictator with idiotic fines from everything from wrong color socks to not being early enough for a meeting. Tiki bad mouthed him after he retired and I think that many players are leery of signing because of it.

 
perry147 said:
Do any of you think part of the problem with the Giants signing FAs has to do with Tom Coughlin being their head coach? He is known as a dictator with idiotic fines from everything from wrong color socks to not being early enough for a meeting. Tiki bad mouthed him after he retired and I think that many players are leery of signing because of it.
How about the "problem" is that there are barely any marquee FAs worth signing at the contracts they are signing for? IMO, Reese is playing it smart in this years FA market. Resigning O'Hara at less then he would have got on the open market was a solid move. A lot of fans are clamoring for the Giants to sign somebody, anybody, but why spend the money just to spend the money?The only questionable move he's made so far is releasing Pettigout. But given that Pettigout was clearly not in the Giants long term plans (they either felt his recurring back injury was too much to deal with or they really like Diehl/Whimper_) cutting him now makessense so they could take the cap hit in a year that the FA market was weak, freeing up more money to spend next year.

Edit to add: A guy like Rhodes would be a nice addition, but not if he's looking for starter money.

 
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I think the Giants made an offer to FB Vonta Leach of Houston, the Texans have a week to decide if they want to match the offer.

I suppose this means that the Giants are going to show Jim Finn the door.

 
Shockey and Burress MIA again and Manning gets extension

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Since Plax and Shockey don’t seem to be willing to come to Eli and get some extra work in, I would like to see Eli go to them for a week or two and get some work in.I recall McNabb working out with T.O. at McNabb’s place out in Arizona. I know it didn’t work out for those two off the field but on the field they made a pretty darn good combo.

 
I like the Vonta Leach deal - looks like the Giants will be determined to pound the ball on the ground with Droughns and Jacobs following Leach (hopefully) and use the ball control game plan a la Parcells of the late 80's. Then Eli can use the play action to his advantage and go deep after the defense stacks the box. If done right, we're looking at 8-8 or better and another playoff berth.

Of course, we need a defense that isn't piss poor to go along with this outlook!

 
I like the Vonta Leach deal - looks like the Giants will be determined to pound the ball on the ground with Droughns and Jacobs following Leach (hopefully) and use the ball control game plan a la Parcells of the late 80's. Then Eli can use the play action to his advantage and go deep after the defense stacks the box. If done right, we're looking at 8-8 or better and another playoff berth.Of course, we need a defense that isn't piss poor to go along with this outlook!
While Houston can still match what do we know about Leach? Finn is mediocre and a little small for a FB
 
I like the Vonta Leach deal - looks like the Giants will be determined to pound the ball on the ground with Droughns and Jacobs following Leach (hopefully) and use the ball control game plan a la Parcells of the late 80's. Then Eli can use the play action to his advantage and go deep after the defense stacks the box. If done right, we're looking at 8-8 or better and another playoff berth.Of course, we need a defense that isn't piss poor to go along with this outlook!
While Houston can still match what do we know about Leach? Finn is mediocre and a little small for a FB
Leach is good. I'm confident he's what you want in a FB.It's odd though when you consider over the last 20 years or so the Giants have had a few different probowl FBs they either drafted or signed as undrafted free agents. If you measure things up per position, they're probably better at drafting that position than any other.
 
I like the Vonta Leach deal - looks like the Giants will be determined to pound the ball on the ground with Droughns and Jacobs following Leach (hopefully) and use the ball control game plan a la Parcells of the late 80's. Then Eli can use the play action to his advantage and go deep after the defense stacks the box. If done right, we're looking at 8-8 or better and another playoff berth.

Of course, we need a defense that isn't piss poor to go along with this outlook!
While Houston can still match what do we know about Leach? Finn is mediocre and a little small for a FB
Leach is good. I'm confident he's what you want in a FB.It's odd though when you consider over the last 20 years or so the Giants have had a few different probowl FBs they either drafted or signed as undrafted free agents. If you measure things up per position, they're probably better at drafting that position than any other.
I agree. He was great for us last season. I'm assuming we won't match b/c that's pretty good money for a FB. We'll miss him...
 
Charles Rogers in town this weekend for a physical and meeting.

No Link heard it on 1050 ESPN Radio on drive in to work

 
Charles Rogers in town this weekend for a physical and meeting. No Link heard it on 1050 ESPN Radio on drive in to work
Charles Rogers :confused: Any chance Anthony Gonzalez from Ohio State is still on the board when the G-men pick in the 3rd round?
 
Charles Rogers in town this weekend for a physical and meeting. No Link heard it on 1050 ESPN Radio on drive in to work
Charles Rogers :lmao: Any chance Anthony Gonzalez from Ohio State is still on the board when the G-men pick in the 3rd round?
Woof.Let Rogers get hurt somewhere else.It would be real nice to get a guy like AG in the 3rd.
 
Briggs, eh? Tell me more.
He and Pierce are close close friends. Google Pierce interview and pick an interview any interview and you'll see he's rrrrrrrrreally into the idea of the Giants signing his friend. Briggs hasn't said anything of note really.Many think the Bears will franchise him.
Briggs outplayed Urlacher over the last 5 games of the year. He is excellent and I would open up my wallet for him. Watch the playoffs and Briggs was flat out better than Urlacher (who over pursues and gets blocked a little too easy). BU is great in coverage though.BTW, I wanted to clarify my previous post when I mentioned moving McKenzie to guard. I like Diel and would move him to center.
I will be shocked if the Bears let Briggs hit the market. Bears have tons of cap space this year and in the future. Jerry A has done an amazing job of signing players right before their prime (Briggs is an exception where he even made it to the FA year). When contracts of folks like Tommie Harris come up, by then contracts of people like Olin Kreutz, Mike Brown will be almost done. Also, Angelo has been very smart to front load contracts in many cases when we had cap space every year (for eg John Tait got a much larger cap impactive # in his 1st 2 years than any other year since he was transition tagged by the CHiefs; same thing with Olin Kreutz since Miami wanted him too). This helps to keep the salary cap space very healthy every year. There is no one on the FA market that the Bears really need to sign. Just franchise Briggs and some vets will sign with the Bears for cheap too since they are on the cusp of a championship. :thumbup:
"Still alive"According to BBI/Scouts.com Giants offerred their first rounder for Briggs
 
Briggs, eh? Tell me more.
He and Pierce are close close friends. Google Pierce interview and pick an interview any interview and you'll see he's rrrrrrrrreally into the idea of the Giants signing his friend. Briggs hasn't said anything of note really.Many think the Bears will franchise him.
Briggs outplayed Urlacher over the last 5 games of the year. He is excellent and I would open up my wallet for him. Watch the playoffs and Briggs was flat out better than Urlacher (who over pursues and gets blocked a little too easy). BU is great in coverage though.BTW, I wanted to clarify my previous post when I mentioned moving McKenzie to guard. I like Diel and would move him to center.
I will be shocked if the Bears let Briggs hit the market. Bears have tons of cap space this year and in the future. Jerry A has done an amazing job of signing players right before their prime (Briggs is an exception where he even made it to the FA year). When contracts of folks like Tommie Harris come up, by then contracts of people like Olin Kreutz, Mike Brown will be almost done. Also, Angelo has been very smart to front load contracts in many cases when we had cap space every year (for eg John Tait got a much larger cap impactive # in his 1st 2 years than any other year since he was transition tagged by the CHiefs; same thing with Olin Kreutz since Miami wanted him too). This helps to keep the salary cap space very healthy every year. There is no one on the FA market that the Bears really need to sign. Just franchise Briggs and some vets will sign with the Bears for cheap too since they are on the cusp of a championship. ;)
"Still alive"According to BBI/Scouts.com Giants offerred their first rounder for Briggs
If the Bears passed up the 6th overall pick for Briggs, why would they accept the 20th? :goodposting:
 
If the Bears passed up the 6th overall pick for Briggs, why would they accept the 20th? :goodposting:
I read somewhere that the Bears don't want to pay 6th pick money to someone...I could see them accepting the 20th pick plus a player or later pick instead of the 6th pick.
 

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