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Sigmund Bloom

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I will be writing an article about the thought process behind my picks when the draft is over

link to draft

1/2/2/1/1/1 with a flex, no PPR, 6 pts for all TDs, -1 for INTs

so far i've taken:

1.07 Rudi

2.06 KJones :own3d: (day before schefter story)

3.07 Caddy

4.06 Evans

5.07 VY

6.06 Turner

7.07 Norwood

8.06 Galloway

9.07 Witten

10.06 Bruce

 
I took a quick look and round #1 was a bit of a puzzler to me, almost looked like it could have been a 2006 draft?

1.03 SAlexander

1.05 SJackson

1.12 Edge

I'll be interested to read your draft commentary.

 
1.12 Edge
More curious to me, if you're gonna roll the dice on Edge at the turn you gotta back him with another RB in a start 2 league...McGahee, Addai, Taylor, Maroney, all are better picks than Manning, given the risk taken on Edge...by the time his next turn came around all that was left was Jacobs...After 4 rounds he's got Edge, Manning, Colston and Jacobs...ouch...ETA: He did get a steal with Shockey in the 8th as the 7th TE off the board...
 
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I'd say FF Today is off to the best start with Tomlinson, Fitzgerald, Holt, J.Jones, Winslow...

 
I will be writing an article about the thought process behind my picks when the draft is over

link to draft

1/2/2/1/1/1 with a flex, no PPR, 6 pts for all TDs, -1 for INTs

so far i've taken:

1.07 Rudi

2.06 KJones :bag: (day before schefter story)

3.07 Caddy

4.06 Evans

5.07 VY

6.06 Turner

7.07 Norwood

8.06 Galloway

9.07 Witten

10.06 Bruce
Sig, I assume a redraft? I am glad to see no PPR and 6 pts for a TD. What about the yards?
 
I took a quick look and round #1 was a bit of a puzzler to me, almost looked like it could have been a 2006 draft?1.03 SAlexander1.05 SJackson1.12 EdgeI'll be interested to read your draft commentary.
I am not real surprised by the SA pick. I think SA could out perform SJAX in 07 possibly. 08 and beyond, its all SJAX. If this were dynasty, I would take SJAX, but for 1 year, I think its a toss up between those 2 at this point.As far as the Edge pick at #12. That was a little surprising. I will say though, with R. Bush, W. McGahee, J. Addai, & C. Taylor as the only legit RB's left on the board at that pick, I don't know that I can say without a doubt that any of those guys will outperform Edge next year. I think Edge will bounce back some next year in Az myself, and maybe that is the thinking behind the pick. I did not like the pick of B. Jacobs (not as high on him as others) myself though when MB III was still on the board. I would of took him.
 
Vince Young as the 6th QB off the board seems awfully high to me.
Check his last 6 weeks of production and tell me if it still seems high. I think youll find that he was top 5 in just about any scoring system, and that's with one HORRIBLE game in the six. You think he's going to drop off from that level? I actually think he can only go up, he was only a green rook surrounded by a weak WR/TE corps.
 
I will be writing an article about the thought process behind my picks when the draft is over

link to draft

1/2/2/1/1/1 with a flex, no PPR, 6 pts for all TDs, -1 for INTs

so far i've taken:

1.07 Rudi

2.06 KJones :thumbup: (day before schefter story)

3.07 Caddy

4.06 Evans

5.07 VY

6.06 Turner

7.07 Norwood

8.06 Galloway

9.07 Witten

10.06 Bruce
Sig, I assume a redraft? I am glad to see no PPR and 6 pts for a TD. What about the yards?
1 pt per 10 rush/rec1 pt per 20 pass

 
I will be writing an article about the thought process behind my picks when the draft is over

link to draft

1/2/2/1/1/1 with a flex, no PPR, 6 pts for all TDs, -1 for INTs

so far i've taken:

1.07 Rudi

2.06 KJones :thumbdown: (day before schefter story)

3.07 Caddy

4.06 Evans

5.07 VY

6.06 Turner

7.07 Norwood

8.06 Galloway

9.07 Witten

10.06 Bruce
The Schefter rumor isn't really an excuse as it was common knowledge that there were question marks around KJ. Steve Smith should have been the pick there or Maroney. Jordan at 5.9 is a frreaking steal. I'd take any of the QBs in the 8th over Young in the 5th. Hopefully you can trade in this league, otherwise you'll have fun picking your starting RBs. Love the Witten and Caddy pick. Not real excite about Galloway and Bruce this year.
 
I will be writing an article about the thought process behind my picks when the draft is over

link to draft

1/2/2/1/1/1 with a flex, no PPR, 6 pts for all TDs, -1 for INTs

so far i've taken:

1.07 Rudi

2.06 KJones :kicksrock: (day before schefter story)

3.07 Caddy

4.06 Evans

5.07 VY

6.06 Turner

7.07 Norwood

8.06 Galloway

9.07 Witten

10.06 Bruce
The Schefter rumor isn't really an excuse as it was common knowledge that there were question marks around KJ. Steve Smith should have been the pick there or Maroney. Jordan at 5.9 is a frreaking steal. I'd take any of the QBs in the 8th over Young in the 5th. Hopefully you can trade in this league, otherwise you'll have fun picking your starting RBs. Love the Witten and Caddy pick. Not real excite about Galloway and Bruce this year.
this league isnt going to be played, just a mock for them to be able to say they did the first experts mock of the year.no PPR deflates WRs too much for my liking to take one at 2.06. I thought about Maroney but I really believe Dillon will be back for one more year.

The whole FF community is sleeping on VY. I'll continue beating that drum all offseason.

Galloway and Bruce would make a fine WR2BC imo, with no PPR.

 
I will be writing an article about the thought process behind my picks when the draft is over

link to draft

1/2/2/1/1/1 with a flex, no PPR, 6 pts for all TDs, -1 for INTs

so far i've taken:

1.07 Rudi

2.06 KJones ;) (day before schefter story)

3.07 Caddy

4.06 Evans

5.07 VY

6.06 Turner

7.07 Norwood

8.06 Galloway

9.07 Witten

10.06 Bruce
The Schefter rumor isn't really an excuse as it was common knowledge that there were question marks around KJ. Steve Smith should have been the pick there or Maroney. Jordan at 5.9 is a frreaking steal. I'd take any of the QBs in the 8th over Young in the 5th. Hopefully you can trade in this league, otherwise you'll have fun picking your starting RBs. Love the Witten and Caddy pick. Not real excite about Galloway and Bruce this year.
this league isnt going to be played, just a mock for them to be able to say they did the first experts mock of the year.no PPR deflates WRs too much for my liking to take one at 2.06. I thought about Maroney but I really believe Dillon will be back for one more year.

The whole FF community is sleeping on VY. I'll continue beating that drum all offseason.

Galloway and Bruce would make a fine WR2BC imo, with no PPR.
Well if the league isn't going to be played then I guess any lineup concerns really aren't an issue. You reached on VY unless you think he'll finish in the top 3 this year. He would have lasted another round or two at least. Part of being a skilled drafted is realizing when to pull the trigger on a player that you like. VY's ADP in the FBG survivor leagues is #9.
 
I will be writing an article about the thought process behind my picks when the draft is over

link to draft

1/2/2/1/1/1 with a flex, no PPR, 6 pts for all TDs, -1 for INTs

so far i've taken:

1.07 Rudi

2.06 KJones :bag: (day before schefter story)

3.07 Caddy

4.06 Evans

5.07 VY

6.06 Turner

7.07 Norwood

8.06 Galloway

9.07 Witten

10.06 Bruce
The Schefter rumor isn't really an excuse as it was common knowledge that there were question marks around KJ. Steve Smith should have been the pick there or Maroney. Jordan at 5.9 is a frreaking steal. I'd take any of the QBs in the 8th over Young in the 5th. Hopefully you can trade in this league, otherwise you'll have fun picking your starting RBs. Love the Witten and Caddy pick. Not real excite about Galloway and Bruce this year.
this league isnt going to be played, just a mock for them to be able to say they did the first experts mock of the year.no PPR deflates WRs too much for my liking to take one at 2.06. I thought about Maroney but I really believe Dillon will be back for one more year.

The whole FF community is sleeping on VY. I'll continue beating that drum all offseason.

Galloway and Bruce would make a fine WR2BC imo, with no PPR.
Well if the league isn't going to be played then I guess any lineup concerns really aren't an issue. You reached on VY unless you think he'll finish in the top 3 this year. He would have lasted another round or two at least. Part of being a skilled drafted is realizing when to pull the trigger on a player that you like. VY's ADP in the FBG survivor leagues is #9.
I think he'll be top 3, but I'll admit i slightly reached - probably around if not 2 too early. That being said, Turner would have probably been my pick instead, and I got him in the 6th, so no real loss. I can't tell if anyone else is as high on VY as I am, and I definitely wanted him to be the starting QB, so I balanced those the best I could. When it comes to players I *really* like I am not 100% disciplined on gambling on them falling to the next round.
 
The point isn't whether VY will justify the draft slot you've taken him in, but whether you could have gotten him later.

You said it yourself, the whole FF community is sleeping on him. I think you could have gotten him in the 7th.

How many RBs you need? Evans, Galloway and Bruce as your WRs?

 
The point isn't whether VY will justify the draft slot you've taken him in, but whether you could have gotten him later.You said it yourself, the whole FF community is sleeping on him. I think you could have gotten him in the 7th.How many RBs you need? Evans, Galloway and Bruce as your WRs?
With Jordan and J. Jones falling in every draft I've seen, I'm taking a stud WR in round 2 in every draft this year.
 
The point isn't whether VY will justify the draft slot you've taken him in, but whether you could have gotten him later.You said it yourself, the whole FF community is sleeping on him. I think you could have gotten him in the 7th.How many RBs you need? Evans, Galloway and Bruce as your WRs?
2 RBs + a flex (Flex needs to be an RB because of no PPR)Here's the thing about VY. First of all, the point is whether he justifies his slot. I expect him to produce at a 3rd if not 2nd round level next year. If he does, it will give my team a huge headstart. I would that there was at least a 60/70% chance he would have been then in the 6th, but not much more. I dont think its that crazy to think that about him, and I had no idea whether anyone else was of the same mind. It's not like my high opinion of him is based on any inside info, its all stuff that is out there for anyone to see - he was a top 5 fantasy QB down the stretch while he was still figuring it out. I felt that round 5 locked in more than enough value to justify taking him, even if there was a better than 50/50 chance he would be there the next round.Also, I have to point out again - If I hadnt taken VY, I would have taken Turner, and I honestly he had an even better chance than VY of falling to the next pick - and he did. The team is exactly the same as it would have been if i had gambled on VY sliding (successfully - not 100% that he would have been there).
 
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I will be writing an article about the thought process behind my picks when the draft is over

link to draft

1/2/2/1/1/1 with a flex, no PPR, 6 pts for all TDs, -1 for INTs

so far i've taken:

1.07 Rudi

2.06 KJones ;) (day before schefter story)

3.07 Caddy

4.06 Evans

5.07 VY

6.06 Turner

7.07 Norwood

8.06 Galloway

9.07 Witten

10.06 Bruce
The Schefter rumor isn't really an excuse as it was common knowledge that there were question marks around KJ. Steve Smith should have been the pick there or Maroney. Jordan at 5.9 is a frreaking steal. I'd take any of the QBs in the 8th over Young in the 5th. Hopefully you can trade in this league, otherwise you'll have fun picking your starting RBs. Love the Witten and Caddy pick. Not real excite about Galloway and Bruce this year.
this league isnt going to be played, just a mock for them to be able to say they did the first experts mock of the year.no PPR deflates WRs too much for my liking to take one at 2.06. I thought about Maroney but I really believe Dillon will be back for one more year.

The whole FF community is sleeping on VY. I'll continue beating that drum all offseason.

Galloway and Bruce would make a fine WR2BC imo, with no PPR.
You took VY over Hines Ward with these two as a WR2BC. You could have had Hines as a weekly starter thats better than these two and Tom Brady over VY.As could a number of other experts...

 
I'd say FF Today is off to the best start with Tomlinson, Fitzgerald, Holt, J.Jones, Winslow...
Thanks code :goodposting: If I could play the "what if?" game for a second, the ridiculous part of assembling that team from the #1 spot is I was a pick away from Gates at the end of the 4th, and a pick away from Tom Brady at the end of the 6th. What is now:

Leinart / LT / JJones / Fitz / Holt / Winslow

was extremely close to being:

Brady / LT / JJones / Fitz / Holt / Gates :thumbup:

Of course, some people may like Leinart better than Brady; Winslow better than Gates heading into the '07 season. I'd say Leinart/Winslow are capable of surpassing each of Brady/Gates in fantasy numbers, but certainly there is more risk with them than the established studs.

Here is some commentary I've drafted on the first 3 rounds if anyone is interested:

Round 1 | Round 2 | Round 3

 
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Vince Young as the 6th QB off the board seems awfully high to me.
Check his last 6 weeks of production and tell me if it still seems high. I think youll find that he was top 5 in just about any scoring system, and that's with one HORRIBLE game in the six. You think he's going to drop off from that level? I actually think he can only go up, he was only a green rook surrounded by a weak WR/TE corps.
I love the VY pick Bloom and definitely had him targeted, but I don't love him enough to take him a round ahead of Tom Brady, so I thought it was a bit early at the time. Looking at the rest of the QB picks after Young though, Brady is the only one I'd likely draft ahead of Young, and that could get to be a toss-up after reviewing Young's rushing totals. Really, 5th to 6th round looks about right for Young.
 
Looks like we both had the same reaction to FantasyFootball.com's picks at the first turn...Peyton Manning is definitely deserving of going in this round, but considering FantasyFootball.com #2 took Edge as his RB1 who I felt had the most question marks of the first 12 picks, this top of the 2nd pick should have been for another RB for this team.
 
Addai and Rhodes would have been

a huge upgrade over KJ and Calhoun.

Unfortunately Addai went one pick before KJ.

Trading up one slot would have been ideal in that situation.

 
where do I begin...I think I'll just refrain from pissing a lot of people off.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I was sorta thinking the same thing. But I'll piss off one anyway...MOST guys in my leagues are better than a couple of these "experts." I'm not exaggerating.As an example, the XpertSports guy apparently doesn't read much.Alexander at 1.03 is marginally defensible, I guess, although I wouldn't touch him anywhere near there.Travis Henry at 2.10 pretends nothing will be done to get LenDale White involved in 2007. Deuce and Fitz were still on the board and he's taking someone like Travis Henry. Unbelievable. Walker at 3.03 is fine.Darrell Jackson at 4.10 is fine if 1) he isn't traded and 2) he can somehow stay healthy - he hasn't been for the last two years.Reggie Brown 5.03 - fine.Reuben Droughns 6.10. Hey, let's just throw a pick in the trash shall we? This is an expert taking Droughns in round 6? The same Droughns that will be a backup in 2007? Tom Brady is still on the board, he needs a QB, and he's taking Reuben freaking Droughns. Um, OK... Braylon Edwards at 7.03. I do like this pick as I think Edwards is being undervalued this year.Philip Rivers at 8.10. Meh, OK, but he could have had Brady instead of Droughns earlier. I'm still not able to shake that one. Plus Rivers will have an entirely new coaching staff so it's hard to say what adjustments will be necessary. I don't see him being a difference maker in 2007.Ron Dayne at 9.03. Reuben Droughns redux. Oh well. If Kubiak doesn't upgrade from UFA Dayne at RB, it'll be a committee again. I think they upgrade and this becomes another pick thrown away.Ben Watson at 10.10. Pretty good value this late as the 11th TE off the board.QB Alex Smith at 11.03 as the 17th QB is OK and would be part of a QBBC with Rivers.With 1/2/2/1/1/1 and a flex, it's pretty hard to justify throwing away 2 picks in 9 rounds (Droughns and Dayne) and maybe another (Henry, depending on White's development), weakening other spots as he was reaching for these guys.There were other awful picks in this draft, but I'll leave it at that.
 
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I will be writing an article about the thought process behind my picks when the draft is over

link to draft

1/2/2/1/1/1 with a flex, no PPR, 6 pts for all TDs, -1 for INTs

so far i've taken:

1.07 Rudi

2.06 KJones :unsure: (day before schefter story)

3.07 Caddy

4.06 Evans

5.07 VY

6.06 Turner

7.07 Norwood

8.06 Galloway

9.07 Witten

10.06 Bruce
Ehhhhh.... Not a big fan. :lmao: VY/Turner/Norwood need career years to justify that spot. I don't see a lot of value in projecting career years to justify where you took them.

KJ/Caddy/Turner/Norwood have little shot at top 15 RB. Sure if they have career years (KJ was a sucker pick - Oh hey KJ is falling, great value! He's falling for a reason. Same with Caddy - Alstott is also back.).

Rudi/Evans were nice. The problem was you added KJ/Caddy and Turner/Norwood in between.

People get caught up in "guy with issues falls, then suddenly becomes great value". Jamal Lewis was the best. People would LOVE when Lewis fell to the 3rd. SUCH great value. There's a reason guys fall, they have major red flags. I don't care how far Lewis used to fall, he's not worth the pick.

I would rather you reach for VY, then get guy who's falling because of red flags. You can fill your roster with guys who never live up to their ADP. After 10 picks, you have 2 solid players. The other 8 could put up 1-3 pts, or 10-12 points, and it wouldn't be a huge surprise week in week out.

 
Looks like we both had the same reaction to FantasyFootball.com's picks at the first turn...Peyton Manning is definitely deserving of going in this round, but considering FantasyFootball.com #2 took Edge as his RB1 who I felt had the most question marks of the first 12 picks, this top of the 2nd pick should have been for another RB for this team.
Yeah, seems like an obvious call, but FF.com must really like Edge. Heck, I like Edge, but why take the risk or not mitigate the risk with a better second RB. Once this team gets to its 3rd and 4th round picks with Colston and Jacobs, then I'm really scratching my head. Edge + Jacobs at RB? :lmao: Interestingly enough, I really like FantasyFootball.com #1's team (a.k.a. Craig Davis).

Tough crowd here :D

 
I will be writing an article about the thought process behind my picks when the draft is over

link to draft

1/2/2/1/1/1 with a flex, no PPR, 6 pts for all TDs, -1 for INTs

so far i've taken:

1.07 Rudi

2.06 KJones :D (day before schefter story)

3.07 Caddy

4.06 Evans

5.07 VY

6.06 Turner

7.07 Norwood

8.06 Galloway

9.07 Witten

10.06 Bruce
Hey I think Vince Young is good, but with 3/4 of a season as a starting QB in the league has he really reached the point we can call him "VY"? Puleeeeze.

:lmao:

 
The point isn't whether VY will justify the draft slot you've taken him in, but whether you could have gotten him later.You said it yourself, the whole FF community is sleeping on him. I think you could have gotten him in the 7th.How many RBs you need? Evans, Galloway and Bruce as your WRs?
2 RBs + a flex (Flex needs to be an RB because of no PPR)Here's the thing about VY. First of all, the point is whether he justifies his slot. I expect him to produce at a 3rd if not 2nd round level next year. If he does, it will give my team a huge headstart. I would that there was at least a 60/70% chance he would have been then in the 6th, but not much more. I dont think its that crazy to think that about him, and I had no idea whether anyone else was of the same mind. It's not like my high opinion of him is based on any inside info, its all stuff that is out there for anyone to see - he was a top 5 fantasy QB down the stretch while he was still figuring it out. I felt that round 5 locked in more than enough value to justify taking him, even if there was a better than 50/50 chance he would be there the next round.Also, I have to point out again - If I hadnt taken VY, I would have taken Turner, and I honestly he had an even better chance than VY of falling to the next pick - and he did. The team is exactly the same as it would have been if i had gambled on VY sliding (successfully - not 100% that he would have been there).
Bloom, what stats do you actually expect from VY this year if you think that he would warrant 2nd rd consideration? I ask because I know he didn't start every game last year, but in my league he ended as QB-19. He had good stats the last couple of weeks, but I think that with his being young you have to acount for a few clunkers.
 
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I will be writing an article about the thought process behind my picks when the draft is over

link to draft

1/2/2/1/1/1 with a flex, no PPR, 6 pts for all TDs, -1 for INTs

so far i've taken:

1.07 Rudi

2.06 KJones :shrug: (day before schefter story)

3.07 Caddy

4.06 Evans

5.07 VY

6.06 Turner

7.07 Norwood

8.06 Galloway

9.07 Witten

10.06 Bruce
Hey I think Vince Young is good, but with 3/4 of a season as a starting QB in the league has he really reached the point we can call him "VY"? Puleeeeze.

:rolleyes:
some of us have been calling him VY for years.
 
The point isn't whether VY will justify the draft slot you've taken him in, but whether you could have gotten him later.You said it yourself, the whole FF community is sleeping on him. I think you could have gotten him in the 7th.How many RBs you need? Evans, Galloway and Bruce as your WRs?
2 RBs + a flex (Flex needs to be an RB because of no PPR)Here's the thing about VY. First of all, the point is whether he justifies his slot. I expect him to produce at a 3rd if not 2nd round level next year. If he does, it will give my team a huge headstart. I would that there was at least a 60/70% chance he would have been then in the 6th, but not much more. I dont think its that crazy to think that about him, and I had no idea whether anyone else was of the same mind. It's not like my high opinion of him is based on any inside info, its all stuff that is out there for anyone to see - he was a top 5 fantasy QB down the stretch while he was still figuring it out. I felt that round 5 locked in more than enough value to justify taking him, even if there was a better than 50/50 chance he would be there the next round.Also, I have to point out again - If I hadnt taken VY, I would have taken Turner, and I honestly he had an even better chance than VY of falling to the next pick - and he did. The team is exactly the same as it would have been if i had gambled on VY sliding (successfully - not 100% that he would have been there).
Bloom, what stats do you actually expect from VY this year if you think that he would warrant 2nd rd consideration? I ask because I know he didn't start every game last year, but in my league he ended as QB-19. He had good stats the last couple of weeks, but I think that with his being young you have to acount for a few clunkers.
In short, I expect him to pick up where he left off in the last 6 weeks of the season. As I said, top 5 in almost any scoring format you can come up, plus there was a clunker in there.
 
where do I begin...I think I'll just refrain from pissing a lot of people off.
Do you have something to contribute?
Kevin Jones was a horrbile pick...even before the news.
Ill admit to reaching for him, but I didnt want to take an RBBC guy at 2.06, and I still think that Dillon is coming back to NE for one more year. No WRs appealed to me at 2.06 because there's no PPR. In this format, I think having 3 good to great RBs is key, so I went with the pick that fit that strategy best imo. I'm fine with the criticism, I didnt feel great about the pick when I made it, but I felt it was the only way to go knowing that I was going to take RBs in at least 3 of the next 5 rounds. I was always planning an RB heavy draft because of the format.
 
where do I begin...I think I'll just refrain from pissing a lot of people off.
Do you have something to contribute?
Kevin Jones was a horrbile pick...even before the news.
Ill admit to reaching for him, but I didnt want to take an RBBC guy at 2.06, and I still think that Dillon is coming back to NE for one more year. No WRs appealed to me at 2.06 because there's no PPR. In this format, I think having 3 good to great RBs is key, so I went with the pick that fit that strategy best imo. I'm fine with the criticism, I didnt feel great about the pick when I made it, but I felt it was the only way to go knowing that I was going to take RBs in at least 3 of the next 5 rounds. I was always planning an RB heavy draft because of the format.
Yeah, that was a tough spot. Unfortunatley Addai went the pick right before you.
 
I will be writing an article about the thought process behind my picks when the draft is over

link to draft

1/2/2/1/1/1 with a flex, no PPR, 6 pts for all TDs, -1 for INTs

so far i've taken:

1.07 Rudi

2.06 KJones :goodposting: (day before schefter story)

3.07 Caddy

4.06 Evans

5.07 VY

6.06 Turner

7.07 Norwood

8.06 Galloway

9.07 Witten

10.06 Bruce
Here's what I would have done.1.7 Rudi

2.6 Maroney

3.7 Caddy

4.6 Evans

5.7 Jordan

6.6 Edwards

7.7 Shockey

8.6 V. Jackson

9.7 Cutler

10.6 Kitna

11.7 Chicago D

 
Kevin Jones at 2.6

Ahman Green at 2.8

Travis Henry at 2.10

Jones taken before Duece makes no sence

Ahman Green taken BEFORE Steve Smith. Pt Per Rec or not that is inexcusable.

Travis Henry? in Round 2? Why? No need to take him that high because no one is sure he will be the full time starter.

 
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Vince Young as the 6th QB off the board seems awfully high to me.
Check his last 6 weeks of production and tell me if it still seems high. I think youll find that he was top 5 in just about any scoring system, and that's with one HORRIBLE game in the six. You think he's going to drop off from that level? I actually think he can only go up, he was only a green rook surrounded by a weak WR/TE corps.
There is another QB in a similar situation who averaged 18.6 PPG/start compared to Young's 19.4 PPG/start in roughly the same format (6 all TD, 20 yards = 1 pt, passing, 10 yards rushing = 1 pt in decimal scoring). He has better weapons and can be had much later, though....
 
Nice TE combo....KWII and Vernon Davis
Thanks Garts. I felt Davis was okay value where I got him, but mainly I wanted to put the screws to some people where it seemed like they were waiting patiently for a TE trying to get a great value at the position. Thought I'd pull one of the more highly sought after upside players.
 
Vince Young as the 6th QB off the board seems awfully high to me.
Check his last 6 weeks of production and tell me if it still seems high. I think youll find that he was top 5 in just about any scoring system, and that's with one HORRIBLE game in the six. You think he's going to drop off from that level? I actually think he can only go up, he was only a green rook surrounded by a weak WR/TE corps.
I think that once the other teams adjust their game plans to factor in his running, he will have a sharp decline in production. His throwing mechanics are terrible and this will be brought to light this season.VY being made to pass the ball to beat you is going to get the Titans no more than 8 wins. His production wil level out this year which makes no case for a top 10 QB, IMO.
 
VY/Turner/Norwood need career years to justify that spot. I don't see a lot of value in projecting career years to justify where you took them.
I'm not in love with the roster either, but to say guys need "career years" to justify 5th/6th/7th round picks is just plain silly. To justify being the 6th QB or the 30th-40th RB the only need to score as the 6th QB or the 30th-40th RB. I doubt that would be a career year for any of those players.
 
VY/Turner/Norwood need career years to justify that spot. I don't see a lot of value in projecting career years to justify where you took them.
I'm not in love with the roster either, but to say guys need "career years" to justify 5th/6th/7th round picks is just plain silly. To justify being the 6th QB or the 30th-40th RB the only need to score as the 6th QB or the 30th-40th RB. I doubt that would be a career year for any of those players.
I believe that it would be a career year for VY to be the #6 QB, and Turner is still a backup. his production is completely dependant on LT.
 
VY/Turner/Norwood need career years to justify that spot. I don't see a lot of value in projecting career years to justify where you took them.
I'm not in love with the roster either, but to say guys need "career years" to justify 5th/6th/7th round picks is just plain silly. To justify being the 6th QB or the 30th-40th RB the only need to score as the 6th QB or the 30th-40th RB. I doubt that would be a career year for any of those players.
I believe that it would be a career year for VY to be the #6 QB, and Turner is still a backup. his production is completely dependant on LT.
Obviously they have a different opinion on the RBs. Describing Turner's role as 'still a backup' when his actual status is RFA seems odd. Also it seems strange to argue a guy would never be better than a #6 QB when he ranked top 5 over a good portion of his rookie season.
 
VY/Turner/Norwood need career years to justify that spot. I don't see a lot of value in projecting career years to justify where you took them.
I'm not in love with the roster either, but to say guys need "career years" to justify 5th/6th/7th round picks is just plain silly. To justify being the 6th QB or the 30th-40th RB the only need to score as the 6th QB or the 30th-40th RB. I doubt that would be a career year for any of those players.
I believe that it would be a career year for VY to be the #6 QB, and Turner is still a backup. his production is completely dependant on LT.
Obviously they have a different opinion on the RBs. Describing Turner's role as 'still a backup' when his actual status is RFA seems odd. Also it seems strange to argue a guy would never be better than a #6 QB when he ranked top 5 over a good portion of his rookie season.
It is funny how people like to look at the good run VY had at the beginning of the season, but attribute his mediocre play in the middle of the season to his being a rookie. Teams will gameplan against his running, and his WRs aren't that good that they would be able to make them pay. I agree that VY is a special talent, but so is Vick. The one thing that they both have in common is the fact that neither has any good WRs. I would expect QB 10-12 as being resonable expectations, considering it will be his second year in the league.
 

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