Why the love for contracts and cap in fantasy baseball, but not in FF? (1 Viewer)

Do you think fantasy baseball will eventually get away from salaries and cap and move more in line with what fantasy football is doing?, or do you think FF will start to move toward salaries and cap?, or do you think things will stay status quo? Yes, there are lots of fantasy football leagues that use salaries, but most of the dynasty leagues I know of do not.

I run a dynasty baseball league and frequent Rotojunkie.com a lot, and I've noticed there aren't too many leagues that are in the dynasty format. We are in our 3rd year and everyone in the league loves our format, and it doesn't use salaries or cap. It's a format where you can sign anyone in the world at any time that isn't already on another roster. 34 man rosters, start 13 pos and 9 pitchers. I don't mean for this to be a baseball thread, but only to point out some glaring differences I see between the two hobbies.

Fantasy Football seems to be evolving more and baseball seems more status quo. I bucked the system a little with my dynasty baseball league and again, it's going very well. Some would think that my league would be in trouble because we don't have a draft (only the initial draft), but allowing any team to sign any minor leaguer at any time more than makes up for it. You wouldn't believe the WW and trade activity.

One thing about fantasy baseball that I see more of is the use of farm teams. Not many fantasy football leagues have college rosters, but some do.

I'm surprised that no one has wondered about this and has an opinion. It seems the two fanstasy structures are so different with regards to Salary / Cap vs non-Salary / Cap in most leagues. I wonder why that is?

I've been in a dynasty baseball league since 90, we've had a farm system the entire time and we use salaries/cap.

I like it a lot. I think it adds a much greater degree of strategy than you get otherwise.

The farm thing doesn't work as well in FF because college football is just not the same as minor league baseball.

If I was in a dynasty FF league I'd want to use salary/cap rather than straight draft, similarly to baseball for the strategy reasons.

Never played, and have less than 0 desire to play, fantasy baseball.

So without regard for how things are in fantasy baseball, I love contracts and cap in FF and the people in my leagues that use them also have come to prefer them for the most part. There is something to be said for a straight redraft/reauction for a change of pace, but in my main leagues I definitely want caps and contracts.

JohnnyU said:

I'm surprised that no one has wondered about this and has an opinion. It seems the two fanstasy structures are so different with regards to Salary / Cap vs non-Salary / Cap in most leagues. I wonder why that is?

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You probably picked the wrong day to bring this up. People today are interested in the player movement going on. You might get better discussion next week.I'm personally in no cap leagues and have no experience in them.

I play in several baseball and football leagues each year. Enjoy both hobbies the same. Formats all differ, redrafts, keeper, dynasty in both sports.

My $0.02

I strongly prefer auction drafts to serpentine drafts. IMO, more skill, more strategy. More so in football as the guys with early picks in football make the playoffs at least 2X times the guys with late picks. In an auction there is a price to paid for rostering LT (and it is lot more than simply waiting for picks at 2.12/3.01).

I think that salaries (which eminate from auction drafts) also work a lot better in keeper leagues. In keeper leagues that I play in, there is usually a limit on how long a player can be kept. I play in a keeper baseball league (auction/salaries), we keep 7 players (max 4 years), 20% salary increase each year. It all works well. You calculate inflation for the auction of the non-kept players. A lot more strategy is involved with how much you want to bring to the draft - Do I keep Hafner at $32 or Harang at $6??? If this league were a serp draft, it would be awful. The team with Pujols would simply keep him for 4 years and only forego a 1st round draft pick (so they get the 1.01 player and give up potentially a pick as low as 1.14).

In a dynasty format (keep all players forever), I think that one can make a stronger case for a non-auction/salary format.

I play in several leagues that have contracts and/or salary limits. I enjoy them greatly. Because there is FA, it is a naturally all year format w/o forcing the issue. Trading is a much bigger challenge because you have to factor the $$$ cost of players and free up salary space or years. One issue is for the rules not to become so complex, that players are in constant violation or confusion.

no beisbol here, but i do play in a fantasy football cap league.