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Theisman out on MNF (1 Viewer)

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Profootballtalk.com reports that Joe Theisman is out as ESPN's Monday Night Football analyst.

Bill Parcells was reportedly offered the job, but didn't take it. Ron Jaworski is reportedly the favorite to earn the gig alongside Mike Tirico and Tony Kornheiser. This news is so enjoyable it probably isn't true.

Source: Profootballtalk.com

 
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SUNSHINE OUT AT MNF

A source with knowledge of the situation tells us that ESPN is yanking analyst Joe Theismann from Monday Night Football. Earlier this year, the network said that the lineup for the weekly NFL broadcast would returned unchanged in 2007.

Per the source, the likely replacement for Theismann is Ron Jaworski, who performed well (despite wearing ladies' glasses) during the back half of a season-opening Monday night doubleheader and who currently is handling booth duties for the ESPN/ABC coverage of the Arena Football League.

It's unknown whether Theismann will be reassigned to other ESPN NFL-related shows, or possibly to ESPN's college football coverage. After Mike Patrick and Paul Maguire weren't shifted with Theismann from Sunday night to Monday night, Patrick and Maguire landed with the network's NCAA broadcasts.

The problem, as we understand it, is that Theismann received a lucrative contract in the waning days of Mark Shapiro's tenure, and the network is unlikely to eat the balance of it. We're told that there are at least two years remaining on the deal.

Per a source with knowledge of the in-house dynamics at ESPN, Theismann and Tony Kornheiser didn't mix well, and there's a school of thought that Kornheiser would be better without having to worry about tiptoeing on eggshells with Theismann. (And we agree with that. Completely.)

The information came to us in response to an item we posted earlier on Saturday indicating that ESPN had offered a spot on Monday Night Football to former Cowboys coach Bill Parcells.

Stay tuned.

 
Not in love with Theismann but geez, he was a football player. He won a Super Bowl and was the league MVP in 1983. Who the heck is Kornheiser? He seems very out of place in the booth, much like Dennis Miller was. Even though he might be able to identify a football three out of four times I doubt he's ever played the game (on ANY level). And, like Miller, most of what he says has nothing to do with football. Is this the best that ESPN could come up with? :lmao:

 
wannabee said:
from PFT:Per a source with knowledge of the in-house dynamics at ESPN, Theismann and Tony Kornheiser didn't mix well, and there's a school of thought that Kornheiser would be better without having to worry about tiptoeing on eggshells with Theismann. (And we agree with that. Completely.)
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Tony, you done good. :lmao:
 
ninerfan said:
Not in love with Theismann but geez, he was a football player. He won a Super Bowl and was the league MVP in 1983. Who the heck is Kornheiser? He seems very out of place in the booth, much like Dennis Miller was. Even though he might be able to identify a football three out of four times I doubt he's ever played the game (on ANY level). And, like Miller, most of what he says has nothing to do with football. Is this the best that ESPN could come up with? :lmao:
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None of the links work in your post. And there is a 0% relationship between being a good football player and a good broadcaster.
 
bentley said:
ninerfan said:
Not in love with Theismann but geez, he was a football player. He won a Super Bowl and was the league MVP in 1983. Who the heck is Kornheiser? He seems very out of place in the booth, much like Dennis Miller was. Even though he might be able to identify a football three out of four times I doubt he's ever played the game (on ANY level). And, like Miller, most of what he says has nothing to do with football. Is this the best that ESPN could come up with? :banned:
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None of the links work in your post. And there is a 0% relationship between being a good football player and a good broadcaster.
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Underlined for emphasis (not links) but thanks. So you're saying that Kornhesier doesn't have to talk about football to be a good football broadcaster? Got it.
 
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ninerfan said:
bentley said:
ninerfan said:
Not in love with Theismann but geez, he was a football player. He won a Super Bowl and was the league MVP in 1983. Who the heck is Kornheiser? He seems very out of place in the booth, much like Dennis Miller was. Even though he might be able to identify a football three out of four times I doubt he's ever played the game (on ANY level). And, like Miller, most of what he says has nothing to do with football. Is this the best that ESPN could come up with? :thumbup:
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None of the links work in your post. And there is a 0% relationship between being a good football player and a good broadcaster.
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Underlined for emphasis (not links) but thanks. So you're saying that Kornhesier doesn't have to talk about football to be a good football broadcaster? Got it.
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Ninerfan is the type of guy that believes a person must have committed suicide in order to talk about it. :lmao:
 
Praise be to Allah! I may turn religious because of this news.

Now if we all start a prayer chain to get Mellissa Stark back.....

 
wannabee said:
Per a source with knowledge of the in-house dynamics at ESPN, Theismann and Tony Kornheiser didn't mix well, and there's a school of thought that Kornheiser would be better without having to worry about tiptoeing on eggshells with Theismann. (And we agree with that. Completely.)
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Didn't mix well? :lmao: Kornheiser had a nasty habit of pointing out Theisman's lies and spin constantly. "Joe didn't you just say..." :lmao:
 
ninerfan said:
Not in love with Theismann but geez, he was a football player. He won a Super Bowl and was the league MVP in 1983. Who the heck is Kornheiser? He seems very out of place in the booth, much like Dennis Miller was. Even though he might be able to identify a football three out of four times I doubt he's ever played the game (on ANY level). And, like Miller, most of what he says has nothing to do with football. Is this the best that ESPN could come up with? :lmao:
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There are many former NFL players (Jaws for one) who would do a better job than Joe. Korn does a decent job, although I'm not a big fan.

 
ninerfan said:
Not in love with Theismann but geez, he was a football player. He won a Super Bowl and was the league MVP in 1983. Who the heck is Kornheiser? He seems very out of place in the booth, much like Dennis Miller was. Even though he might be able to identify a football three out of four times I doubt he's ever played the game (on ANY level). And, like Miller, most of what he says has nothing to do with football. Is this the best that ESPN could come up with? :lmao:
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Tirico + Jaworski + Kornheiser >>>>>> Tirco + Jaworski + TheismanI think the reason a lot of people didn't care for Korny was because he didn't mesh well with Theisman. Kornheiser ended up playing the watchdog for every stupid thing Joe was going to say. He'll have much better chemistry with Jaws.

 
I have the perfect man for the job...MATT MILLEN. :lmao:

Good riddance Theismann.

 
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ninerfan said:
Not in love with Theismann but geez, he was a football player. He won a Super Bowl and was the league MVP in 1983. Who the heck is Kornheiser? He seems very out of place in the booth, much like Dennis Miller was. Even though he might be able to identify a football three out of four times I doubt he's ever played the game (on ANY level). And, like Miller, most of what he says has nothing to do with football. Is this the best that ESPN could come up with? :lmao:
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I agree. I like Kornheiser on PTI, but hate him on MNF. He adds nothing to the broadcast and I have cringed at many of his comments.Joe goes on and on and it is easy to tune him out, but Kornheiser is ill-suited for this assignment.

 
Bring back Howard Cosell.He has way more personality than Tony Cornholer. Oh wait, Cosell's dead :lmao: Ok, even his corpse would be a better analyst than Tony K. :lmao: Never did like Theisman in the booth. Putting Jaws in there is surely an upgrade.

 
Riffraff said:
ninerfan said:
bentley said:
ninerfan said:
Not in love with Theismann but geez, he was a football player. He won a Super Bowl and was the league MVP in 1983. Who the heck is Kornheiser? He seems very out of place in the booth, much like Dennis Miller was. Even though he might be able to identify a football three out of four times I doubt he's ever played the game (on ANY level). And, like Miller, most of what he says has nothing to do with football. Is this the best that ESPN could come up with? :thumbup:
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None of the links work in your post. And there is a 0% relationship between being a good football player and a good broadcaster.
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Underlined for emphasis (not links) but thanks. So you're saying that Kornhesier doesn't have to talk about football to be a good football broadcaster? Got it.
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Ninerfan is the type of guy that believes a person must have committed suicide in order to talk about it. :lmao:
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You prove every day that you don't have to know anything to be able to talk. :lmao:
 
I can't stand Kornheiser. He offers nothing to the football side of MNF. He repeatedly says he doesn't know crap about football. However if they get Jaws in there I will never complain about MNF broadcasting again. The week 1 MNF double header that Jaws called was the best called game I ever heard. Jaws breaks down the FOOTBALL play like no one else. It's a totally acceptable trade to put up with a non-combatant to just get Theisman out, but to add Jaws... :lmao:

 
From a FF standpoint, I really like having TK on MNF! I think it is cool how he "roots" for his players to play well. I like the fact that he talks about FF on the show.

 
mad sweeney said:
I can't stand Kornheiser. He offers nothing to the football side of MNF. He repeatedly says he doesn't know crap about football. However if they get Jaws in there I will never complain about MNF broadcasting again. The week 1 MNF double header that Jaws called was the best called game I ever heard. Jaws breaks down the FOOTBALL play like no one else. It's a totally acceptable trade to put up with a non-combatant to just get Theisman out, but to add Jaws... :mellow:
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Well, in fairness I thought that Vermeil was just as good as Jaws in that Week 1 broadcast. The analytical interplay between the two was simply outstanding, and Brad Nessler had the good sense (and humility) to stay out of the way and let the magic happen. On that last note, I think Al Michaels has been more of a problem in that regard than most people realize (yes, I realize he's not doing MNF anymore). He seems to think that the broadcast is about him and competes with his boothmates to make an impression. It's gotten pathetic. Tirico ads nothing to the broadcast for me. They could remove him from the booth and I wouldn't notice.
 
wannabee said:
...The problem, as we understand it, is that Theismann received a lucrative contract in the waning days of Mark Shapiro's tenure, and the network is unlikely to eat the balance of it. We're told that there are at least two years remaining on the deal....
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So what sort of cap hit is cutting this contract going to cause for ESPN? Will this affect their ability to go after free agent broadcasters?
 
**** Vermeil would have been my first choice, but I'll take Jaws. Reality for me is it doesn't matter that much. Joe T wasn't that bad. Not as bad as our very own FFA version of Joe T.

 
redman said:
mad sweeney said:
I can't stand Kornheiser. He offers nothing to the football side of MNF. He repeatedly says he doesn't know crap about football. However if they get Jaws in there I will never complain about MNF broadcasting again. The week 1 MNF double header that Jaws called was the best called game I ever heard. Jaws breaks down the FOOTBALL play like no one else. It's a totally acceptable trade to put up with a non-combatant to just get Theisman out, but to add Jaws... :confused:
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Well, in fairness I thought that Vermeil was just as good as Jaws in that Week 1 broadcast. The analytical interplay between the two was simply outstanding, and Brad Nessler had the good sense (and humility) to stay out of the way and let the magic happen. On that last note, I think Al Michaels has been more of a problem in that regard than most people realize (yes, I realize he's not doing MNF anymore). He seems to think that the broadcast is about him and competes with his boothmates to make an impression. It's gotten pathetic.

Tirico ads nothing to the broadcast for me. They could remove him from the booth and I wouldn't notice.
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Absolutely. They were hands down, IMO, the best broadcast team I have ever watched. And I kinda don't like Vermeil. But he had great coaches' insight and Jaws had incredible breakdowns. He was showing how the FB and OG's first steps drew the safety 2 steps in and opened up the play action pass on the weak side, or something like that. Instant analysis. It was the best, most pure football lover's broadcast. Little mainstream entertainment factor (unless you count the Raiders gettin crushed entertainment, which I do) other than the game, but I was in awe of that trio.
 
mad sweeney said:
I can't stand Kornheiser. He offers nothing to the football side of MNF. He repeatedly says he doesn't know crap about football. However if they get Jaws in there I will never complain about MNF broadcasting again. The week 1 MNF double header that Jaws called was the best called game I ever heard. Jaws breaks down the FOOTBALL play like no one else. It's a totally acceptable trade to put up with a non-combatant to just get Theisman out, but to add Jaws... :confused:
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I agree.
 
redman said:
mad sweeney said:
I can't stand Kornheiser. He offers nothing to the football side of MNF. He repeatedly says he doesn't know crap about football. However if they get Jaws in there I will never complain about MNF broadcasting again. The week 1 MNF double header that Jaws called was the best called game I ever heard. Jaws breaks down the FOOTBALL play like no one else. It's a totally acceptable trade to put up with a non-combatant to just get Theisman out, but to add Jaws... :lmao:
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Well, in fairness I thought that Vermeil was just as good as Jaws in that Week 1 broadcast. The analytical interplay between the two was simply outstanding, and Brad Nessler had the good sense (and humility) to stay out of the way and let the magic happen. On that last note, I think Al Michaels has been more of a problem in that regard than most people realize (yes, I realize he's not doing MNF anymore). He seems to think that the broadcast is about him and competes with his boothmates to make an impression. It's gotten pathetic. Tirico ads nothing to the broadcast for me. They could remove him from the booth and I wouldn't notice.
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I agree. Vermeil, Jaws and Nessler were the best. I like them each seperately and even better together. Jaws has so much respect for Vermeil and likewise, that they make a great team.They blew away the A team.
 
I am clearly in the infinite minority here:

But I liked Theisman, right until last season when he stated it was easier to throw a wet football because it was tacky.

Then he lost me...

 
softball said:
I am clearly in the infinite minority here: But I liked Theisman, right until last season when he stated it was easier to throw a wet football because it was tacky.Then he lost me...
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I think Theismann is better than most give him credit for, but I can even as a 'Skins fan appreciate what it is about him that makes him grate on people. Unfortunately for him, what gets lost in all of this is what a great QB he was for some Redskins Super Bowl teams - he organized and led practices, for example, during that many-weeks long 1982 strike season when they ended up winning their first Super Bowl, and for a couple of years he was as good as any QB in the NFL. Like I said though, there are certainly better analysts out there. There are also far, far worse ones.
 
TBLCommish said:
From a FF standpoint, I really like having TK on MNF! I think it is cool how he "roots" for his players to play well. I like the fact that he talks about FF on the show.
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He must have been in a 4 team league though, it seemed like he had every player in the NFL on his team.
 
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