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1 1 Oakland / Atomic Punk - Calvin Johnson WR, Georgia Tech

2 2 Detroit / ILoveMyLions- Jamarcus Russel QB, LSU

3 3 Cleveland / Fallerjw- Joe Thomas OT, Wisconsin

4 4 Tampa Bay / prymetyme25 - Gaines Adams DE Clemson

5 5 Arizona / Andy Dufrense - Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma

6 6 Washington / Mr. Peterson - Amobi Okye, DT Louisville

7 7 Minnesota / Shamrock84 - Brady Quinn, QB Notre Dame

8 8 Atlanta / Biabreakable - Laron Landry s LSU

9 9 Miami / Blackjacks - Levi Jones OT, Penn State

10 10 Houston / prymetyme 25 - Reggie Nelson S Florida

11 11 San Francisco / Atomic Punk- Patrick Willis LB Ole Miss.

12 12 Buffalo / Mr. Peterson - Jammal Anderson DE Arkansas

13 13 St. Louis / Blackjacks - Adam Carricker DE Nebraska

14 14 Carolina / Biabreakable - Justin Blalock OT Texas

15 15 Pittsburgh / milfoshane - Leon Hall CB Michigan

16 16 Green Bay / Shamrock84 - Marshawn Lynch RB Cal

17 17 Jacksonville / nshelat1- Tedd Ginn Jr. WR Ohio State

18 18 Cincinnati / Fallerjw - Chris Houston Cb Arkansas

19 19 Tennessee / bigreese82 - Darelle Revis CB Pitt

20 20 N.Y. Giants / RC94 - Paul Poluszny LB Penn State

21 21 Denver / Bonzai - Alan Branch DT Michigan

22 22 Dallas / Bonzai - Robert Meachem WR Tennessee

23 23 Kansas City / Tackling Dummies - Dewwayne Bowe WR LSU

24 24 New England / aposulli - Michael Griffith S Texas

25 25 N.Y. Jets / Andy Dufresne - Greg Olsen TE Miami

26 26 Philadelphia / aposulli - Jon Beason - Miami

27 27 New Orleans / Thom Yorke - Dwayne Jarret WR USC

28 28 New England / aposulli - Marcus McCaulley CB Fresno State

29 29 Baltimore / Chaos Commish - Ryan Kalil, Center, USC

30 30 San Diego / Chaos Commish - Sidney Rice, WR, South Carolina

31 31 Chicago / -X - Lawrence Timmons LB Florida State

32 32 Indianapolis / milfoshane- Justin Harrel DT Tennessee

Round 2

1 33 Oakland - Atomic Punk - Joe Staley, OT Central Michigan

2 34 Detroit - milfoshane - Aaron Ross CB Texas

3 35 Tampa Bay - prymetyme25 - Brandon Meriweather Miami U

4 36 Cleveland - Fallerjw - Jarvis Moss DE Florida

5 37 Chicago / -X- Ben Grubbs, OG, Auburn

6 38 Arizona /Ady Deufresne - Anthony Spencer DE/LB, Purdue

7 39 Atlanta /Chaos Commish - Charles Johnson, DE, Georgia

8 40 Miami / BlackJacks - Arron Sears OG Tennessee

9 41 Minnesota / Shamrock84 - Steve Smith WR USC

10 42 San Francisco / Atomic Punk - Jason Hill WR, Washington State

11 43 Buffalo /Mr. Peterson - Anthony Gonzalez WR, Ohio State

12 44 Atlanta / Biabreakable - Tony Ugoh OT Arkanas

13 45 Carolina / Biabreakable - Tank Tyler DT N. Carolina State

14 46 Pittsburgh / milfoshane - Tim Crowder DE Texas

15 47 Green Bay / Shamrock84 - Zach Miller TE Arizona State

16 48 Jacksonville / Shamrock84 - Ikaika Alama-Francis, DE Hawaii

17 49 Cincinnati / Fallerjw - David Harris, LB, Michigan

18 50 Tennessee / bireese82 - Victor Abiamiri DE Notre Dame

19 51 N.Y. Giants / RC94 - Josh Wilson, CB. Maryland

20 52 St. Louis / Blackjacks - Eric Weddle, DB supreme, Utah

21 53 Dallas / Bonzai - Lamarr Woodley DE, Michigan

22 54 Kansas City / Tackling Dummies - Ray Mcdonald DT Florida

23 55 Seattle / Andy Dufresne - Ben Patrick TE Deleware

24 56 Denver / Bonzai - Justin Durant LB Hampton

25 57 Philadelphia - Jeff Pasquino - Brian Leonard RB Rutgers

26 58 New Orleans / Thom Yorke - Eric Wright CB UNLV

27 59 N.Y. Jets / Jonathan Wade - CB Tennessee

28 60 Miami / milfoshane - Drew Stanton QB Michigan State

29 61 Baltimore / Chaos Commish - Quentin Moses, OLB, Georgia

30 62 San Diego/ Chaos Commish - Tanard Jackson, S, Syracuse

31 63 N.Y. Jets / Andy Dufresne - Craig "Buster" Davis WR, L.S.U.

32 64 Tampa Bay/prymetyme25 - Lorenzo Booker RB, Florida State

3rd Round

1 65 Oakland / Atomic Punk -Trent Edwards QB, Stanford

2 66 Detroit / ILoveMyLions- Dan Bazuin DE, Central Michigan

3 67 Cleveland/ Fallerjw- Paul Soliai DT, Utah

4 68 Tampa Bay / prymetyme25 -Marshal Yonda OG IOWA

5 69 Arizona / Andy Dufresne -Stewart Bradley LB, Nebraska

6 70 Denver/ Bonzai - James Marten - OT Boston College

7 71 Miami / BlackJacks - Marcus Thomas, DT Florida

8 72 Minnesota / Shamrock84 - Johnnie Lee Higgins , WR UTEP

9 73 Houston / milfoshane - Brian Robison DE Texas

10 74 Buffalo /Mr. Peterson - Rufus Alexander LB, Oklahoma

11 75 Atlanta / Biabreakable Manny Ramirez G Texas Tech

13 77 Pittsburgh / milfoshane - Ryan Harris OT Notre Dame

14 78 Green Bay / Shamrock84 - Damien Hughes CB Cal

15 79 Jacksonville/ nshelat1 - Josh Gattis, FS, Wake Forest

Supp Cincinnati

17 80 Tennessee / bigreese82 - Aundrae Allison WR East Caorlina

18 81 N.Y. Giants / RC94 - Antonio Pittman, RB – Ohio State

19 82 St. Louis / Chaos Commish - Brandon Siler, ILB, Florida

20 83 Carolina / Chaos Commish - Quincy Black, OLB New Mexico

22 85 Seattle / Andy Dufresne - Josh Beekman OG Boston College

23 86 Denver / Bonzai - Tony Hunt RB Penn St.

24 87 Dallas / Bonzai - Andy Alleman OG Akron

25 88 New Orleans / Thom Yorke - Doug Free OT N. Illinois

26 89 N.Y. Jets / Andy Dufresne - Fred Bennet CB South Carolina

27 90 Philadelphia / Jeff Pasquino - Aaron Rouse s Virginia Tech

28 91 New England / aposulli - Quinn Pitcock, DT OSU

29 92 Buffalo / Mr. Peterson - David Irons CB, Auburn

30 93 San Diego / Chaos Commish - Michael Bush, RB, Louisville

31 94 Chicago / -X- Sabby Piscitelli, SS, Oregon State

32 95 Indianapolis / milfoshane - Buster Davis ILB Florida St.

33 96 San Diego / Chaos Commish - Anthony Waters, ILB, Clemson

34 97 San Francisco / Atomic Punk Kenny Irons RB Auburn

35 98 Indianapolis / milfoshane - John Wendling S Wyoming

36 99 Oakland / Atomic Punk- Samson Satele C, Hawaii

The Raiders have tried a variety of interesting strategies in the recent past, but NOT PICKING is a complete surprise.

Chaos Commish said:

The Raiders have tried a variety of interesting strategies in the recent past, but NOT PICKING is a complete surprise.

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Too many good choices to do a simple coin toss this year. 1.1 Calvin Johnson WR, Georgia TechI been saying this for a while...I am glad to see someone not go QB here. CJ is by far the top pick, and deserves to be #1

nerangers said:

Chaos Commish said:

The Raiders have tried a variety of interesting strategies in the recent past, but NOT PICKING is a complete surprise.

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Too many good choices to do a simple coin toss this year. 1.1 Calvin Johnson WR, Georgia TechI been saying this for a while...I am glad to see someone not go QB here. CJ is by far the top pick, and deserves to be #1

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Agreed. In terms of team need though you gotta think Moss is gone after this pick no?

shamrock84 said:

nerangers said:

Chaos Commish said:

The Raiders have tried a variety of interesting strategies in the recent past, but NOT PICKING is a complete surprise.

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Too many good choices to do a simple coin toss this year. 1.1 Calvin Johnson WR, Georgia TechI been saying this for a while...I am glad to see someone not go QB here. CJ is by far the top pick, and deserves to be #1

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Agreed. In terms of team need though you gotta think Moss is gone after this pick no?

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I think Moss is gone before this pick. He doesn't want to be there and if he's not happy he's basically worthless. He doesn't give 100% even when he is happy so to me this pick makes perfect sense.

See my mock from a few weeks back, I've had them taking CJ since before the combine.

I can't see Moss in a Raider uniform anymore and believe he will be banished for a 3rd, best case scenario a bidding war happens and they get a mid to late 2nd.

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See my mock from a few weeks back, I've had them taking CJ since before the combine.I can't see Moss in a Raider uniform anymore and believe he will be banished for a 3rd, best case scenario a bidding war happens and they get a mid to late 2nd.

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nice pick

I agree Calvin Johnson is in a uber-elite tier by himself and then there are the rest of the players this year.

Biabreakable said:

I agree Calvin Johnson is in a uber-elite tier by himself and then there are the rest of the players this year.

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I'm really glad CJ went first. THat isn't how I see it going down but it will make for a more interesting draft the rest of the way out.

The bottom line is it doesn't matter how pretty the tires are if there's no engine in the car you're not going anywhere.

Until the Raiders put a QB in the silver and black that impress more than Walters and Booty. QB is the pick.

I like Russell going to the Lions more than I would like him going to the Raiders because he can understudy Kitna for a year and get acclimated to the pro level before being thrown into the fire.

This worked wonders for Carson Palmer.

Also agree that the Raiders need a Qb much more than a Wr but Johnson is more of a can't miss prospect as well.

Both of these teams will likely look at trading down. In the end I see these 2 players being the top picks if trades do happen or not.

Im sorry but I cannot see the Raiders passing up on Russell. Al Davis is going to win this decision.

A trade down to the #3-5 spots is easily the best option for both the Raiders and Lions, I'm just not sure anyone has the fire power to pull that kind of trade off.

I still think it is 50/50 whether the Raiders go CJ or Russell but Al Davis is in that big endzone in the sky and I happen to be in charge now, so CJ it is.

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Im sorry but I cannot see the Raiders passing up on Russell. Al Davis is going to win this decision.

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Interesting thing is that he stated that he was over ruled last year and that he wanted Leinart. Sounded a little strange but it was quoted in one of the recent Raider postings.

That is even more reason why he pushes for a QB this year, especially after how the qb's performed last year.

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Romulan said:

Im sorry but I cannot see the Raiders passing up on Russell. Al Davis is going to win this decision.

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Interesting thing is that he stated that he was over ruled last year and that he wanted Leinart. Sounded a little strange but it was quoted in one of the recent Raider postings.

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Count Chocula was over ruled by whom?

i criticized Bloom for taking projecting the Cards to take AD in his most recent mock, but with Thomas and Gaines off the board, it makes a lot more sense.

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That is even more reason why he pushes for a QB this year, especially after how the qb's performed last year.

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too bad atomic punk is picking for them in this draft

Biabreakable said:

Atomic Punk said:

Romulan said:

Im sorry but I cannot see the Raiders passing up on Russell. Al Davis is going to win this decision.

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Interesting thing is that he stated that he was over ruled last year and that he wanted Leinart. Sounded a little strange but it was quoted in one of the recent Raider postings.

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Count Chocula was over ruled by whom?

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I don't think there was a source listed but it was in one of the Raider threads in the Shark pool.

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i criticized Bloom for taking projecting the Cards to take AD in his most recent mock, but with Thomas and Gaines off the board, it makes a lot more sense.

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I almost pulled AD for Tampa. It was give them a 2 headed monster that could run over the league. But then I dont think caddy could be effective with limited carries so I went defense.

The Gaines Adams pick was a no-brainer IMO, given who went off the board in front of TB.

I also really the AD pick for the Cards. Edge only has so much left and AD would be the right long term move for a franchise that has not had all that many big name players in its history.

I was under the impression that Al Davis ran a monarcy the likes of which only he would be old enough to remember and made all the decisions for the francise.

Arizona getting AD is going to make some Edge owners unhappy as well as owners of the 1st overall pick in dynasty leagues. If that happens we will be able to test if Edge has lost a step or if his poor performance was due to the poor offensive line play or not. Which should be interesting.

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Atomic Punk said:

Romulan said:

Im sorry but I cannot see the Raiders passing up on Russell. Al Davis is going to win this decision.

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Interesting thing is that he stated that he was over ruled last year and that he wanted Leinart. Sounded a little strange but it was quoted in one of the recent Raider postings.

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Great question. The whole story was posted at DraftDaddy and Davis never said who overruled him. In fact, "overruled" is probably my "word" from Blooms 7 rounder, not Al's. He said "he wanted Leinart, but he lost" that one. Go figure. Maybe he was trying to save face with Kiffin? It was during the Kiffin interviews that this little revelation was revealed.

Thanks CC I couldn't find where I had read that.

I remember that well from last year. When Leinart dropped into the Raiders laps I could not believe how lucky they were to have a second chance after not drafting Roethlisberger the year before.

Then the Raiders take Huff.

I seriously doubt MIN taking Quinn.

Something doesn't seem right there.

Their gaps / holes on D are huge.....

If AD ends up a Cardinal then I think he doesnt go #1 in most drafts.

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I seriously doubt MIN taking Quinn. Something doesn't seem right there.Their gaps / holes on D are huge.....

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You really think so? I actually think their D is pretty solid with the exception of DE. If they can pick up a DE in the later rounds or get some production out of Udeze or James I think they'll be fine. Long term concerns at DB but for now they look solid there. The LB's played well last year. What are you seeing that I'm not?The only reason I'm not sure they'll take Quinn is because Chilly wants to prove Tarvaris is the guy. Still I think Quinn is the better pick for the franchise.

Quinn to Minn. I just don't see it. I like Quinn Ithink he's a top 10 pick, but Minn Moved up in the 2nd last year to get Jackson. Now they're going to throw him away after 4 games at the end of a lost season?

Right or wrong I think the folks in Minn like Jackson and are going to give him a chance to lead the team. The hole in theory is where is the quality backup to make sure the season isn't a disaster if Jackson struggles?

Still some things to be decided before draft day.

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I seriously doubt MIN taking Quinn. Something doesn't seem right there.Their gaps / holes on D are huge.....

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There has been a lot of discussion in a few threads about Tavarius Jackson and his long term potential. What is your take? Do you think he is the answer for the Vikes? If not (which is the camp i'm in), this pick appears to make a lot of sense from a BPA perspective.

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Quinn to Minn. I just don't see it. I like Quinn Ithink he's a top 10 pick, but Minn Moved up in the 2nd last year to get Jackson. Now they're going to throw him away after 4 games at the end of a lost season?Right or wrong I think the folks in Minn like Jackson and are going to give him a chance to lead the team. The hole in theory is where is the quality backup to make sure the season isn't a disaster if Jackson struggles?Still some things to be decided before draft day.

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I'm not sure I see it happening either with Winter Park's man-love for Jackson but I think it's the pick they should make if things play out like they did here.

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Jeff Pasquino said:

I seriously doubt MIN taking Quinn. Something doesn't seem right there.Their gaps / holes on D are huge.....

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There has been a lot of discussion in a few threads about Tavarius Jackson and his long term potential. What is your take? Do you think he is the answer for the Vikes? If not (which is the camp i'm in), this pick appears to make a lot of sense from a BPA perspective.

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Exactly what I'm looking at here... BPA. The only other two that come into the BPA discussion here IMO are Jamaal Anderson and Landry.

Hey guys. I went with Russell to the Lions at #2 as I feel he has a good chance to be an elite QB. He's the number 1 player on my board for the Lions. With his height, size, accuracy, quick release for a big arm, escape ability and tremendous arm strength, he could be a rare QB that only comes along so often. He played in a fairly complex college system and faced top notch competition in the SEC and still put up great numbers. I know many Lions fans, and perhaps the management, don't want to take Russell due to the fact that he may sit the first year, but he's just too good and has too much upside to pass up. The Lions haven't had a top QB since Bobby Lane and that's the reason they haven't won since then. Kitna is fine for this year, but he isn't the future at age 35.

The only reservation I have is the work ethic. But, not having the privilege of interviews, talking to everyone who's ever coached him, former teammates, etc., I'll give him the benefit of the doubt despite showing up to the combine overweight (although he did look much better at his pro day). Hopefully the Lions take him if they can't get a great deal in a trade down. Time will tell. This also sets up a nice trade with Oakland getting McCown for a future draft pick.

my in-depth analysis for the draft thus far:

1 Oakland / Atomic Punk - Calvin Johnson WR, Georgia Tech:

2 Detroit / ILoveMyLions- Jamarcus Russel QB, LSU:

3 Cleveland / Fallerjw- Joe Thomas OT, Wisconsin:

4 Tampa Bay / prymetyme25 - Gaines Adams DE Clemson:

5 Arizona / Andy Dufrense - Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma:

6 Washington / Mr. Peterson - Amobe Okoye DT Louisville:

7 Minnesota / Shamrock84 - Brady Quinn, QB Notre Dame:

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my in-depth analysis for the draft thus far:

1 Oakland / Atomic Punk - Calvin Johnson WR, Georgia Tech:

2 Detroit / ILoveMyLions- Jamarcus Russel QB, LSU:

3 Cleveland / Fallerjw- Joe Thomas OT, Wisconsin:

4 Tampa Bay / prymetyme25 - Gaines Adams DE Clemson:

5 Arizona / Andy Dufrense - Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma:

6 Washington / Mr. Peterson - Amobe Okoye DT Louisville:

7 Minnesota / Shamrock84 - Brady Quinn, QB Notre Dame:

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Would you have taken Anderson?

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my in-depth analysis for the draft thus far:1 Oakland / Atomic Punk - Calvin Johnson WR, Georgia Tech: 2 Detroit / ILoveMyLions- Jamarcus Russel QB, LSU: 3 Cleveland / Fallerjw- Joe Thomas OT, Wisconsin: 4 Tampa Bay / prymetyme25 - Gaines Adams DE Clemson: 5 Arizona / Andy Dufrense - Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma: 6 Washington / Mr. Peterson - Amobe Okoye DT Louisville: 7 Minnesota / Shamrock84 - Brady Quinn, QB Notre Dame:

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Who would you have taken for the Lions at #2?

I did lobby Shamrock for Jamaal Anderson who is the player I expected the Redskins to take. The Vikings have been focusing on building thier defense and I do not think they should stop now. James is still injured and will not help the defense in 07 if he ever does. Udeze has lost the closing speed post injury if he ever had it.

Jamaal Anderson has great size/strength as well as good quickness and outstanding agility for such a big player. He has a variety of pass rush moves and is very aggresive. He plays with good leverage. Anticipation of the snap is somthing he still needs to work on. He also needs to work on his strength and endurance but I think he can be honed into an elite edge rusher and 2 way DE the Vikings need.

Measuarables: 4.77 40 time (fast enough for pursuit) 22 reps bench press (needs more work in weight room) 4.22 short shuttle (outstanding quickness) 6.88 3 cone (by far the most agile of the DEs)

I think Anderson is the best DE prospect of this very deep and talented class of DEs. Potentialy a elite player and would bring the pass rush the Vikings need from the Dline. His addition would really help free Kevin Williams playing next to him and give opposing offenses a lot of headaches.

Quinn may be the best player in the draft period though and I am not confident in Jackson working out. So I do not really have an argument with picking him @ 7 over Anderson. That is just a philisophical difference. Most believe that Qb is the most important position in football and with good reason. I happen to believe that defense wins championships and a defense is only as good as thier best pass rusher. So that makes DE a priority to me.

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Bonzai said:

my in-depth analysis for the draft thus far:1 Oakland / Atomic Punk - Calvin Johnson WR, Georgia Tech: 2 Detroit / ILoveMyLions- Jamarcus Russel QB, LSU: 3 Cleveland / Fallerjw- Joe Thomas OT, Wisconsin: 4 Tampa Bay / prymetyme25 - Gaines Adams DE Clemson: 5 Arizona / Andy Dufrense - Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma: 6 Washington / Mr. Peterson - Amobe Okoye DT Louisville: 7 Minnesota / Shamrock84 - Brady Quinn, QB Notre Dame:

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Who would you have taken for the Lions at #2?

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and for the Browns at pick 3?

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Atomic Punk said:

Jeff Pasquino said:

I seriously doubt MIN taking Quinn. Something doesn't seem right there.Their gaps / holes on D are huge.....

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There has been a lot of discussion in a few threads about Tavarius Jackson and his long term potential. What is your take? Do you think he is the answer for the Vikes? If not (which is the camp i'm in), this pick appears to make a lot of sense from a BPA perspective.

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Exactly what I'm looking at here... BPA. The only other two that come into the BPA discussion here IMO are Jamaal Anderson and Landry.

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I still think Tarvaris is the choice going forward. Bringing in a second young QB can screw up both, as you don't have leadership from a vet and you don't want to be swapping QBs out like spare parts.If you draft Quinn and he doesn't start, Tarv does, what does that tell Quinn? He's not better than Tarv, or just not ready? If Tarv is better, then why draft Quinn? Tarv will be looking over his shoulder starting April 28th, and both QBs may suffer for it.I see MIN going in a different direction.

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Bonzai said:

my in-depth analysis for the draft thus far:

1 Oakland / Atomic Punk - Calvin Johnson WR, Georgia Tech:

2 Detroit / ILoveMyLions- Jamarcus Russel QB, LSU:

3 Cleveland / Fallerjw- Joe Thomas OT, Wisconsin:

4 Tampa Bay / prymetyme25 - Gaines Adams DE Clemson:

5 Arizona / Andy Dufrense - Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma:

6 Washington / Mr. Peterson - Amobe Okoye DT Louisville:

7 Minnesota / Shamrock84 - Brady Quinn, QB Notre Dame:

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Would you have taken Anderson?

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thats a tough pick.i think okoye is a good pick, but he's still a bit of a project, and i question his ability to contribute immediatley. i like branch better than okoye.

i also think that landry needs to be considered there.

i don't really feel too strongly about the pick, hence the .

I hate waiting...............

I see this as the easiest pick to this point

ILoveMyLions said:

Bonzai said:

my in-depth analysis for the draft thus far:1 Oakland / Atomic Punk - Calvin Johnson WR, Georgia Tech: 2 Detroit / ILoveMyLions- Jamarcus Russel QB, LSU: 3 Cleveland / Fallerjw- Joe Thomas OT, Wisconsin: 4 Tampa Bay / prymetyme25 - Gaines Adams DE Clemson: 5 Arizona / Andy Dufrense - Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma: 6 Washington / Mr. Peterson - Amobe Okoye DT Louisville: 7 Minnesota / Shamrock84 - Brady Quinn, QB Notre Dame:

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Who would you have taken for the Lions at #2?

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martz has had great success taking QB's with adequate skill sets and making them special. russel just doesn't fit that mold of QB that he has had success with, while mccown and orlovsky are both adequate and i think could do well there.i would think thomas or gaines would be the pick there. if they did go QB i like quinn better.

Blackjacks said:

I hate waiting...............I see this as the easiest pick to this point

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It's been about 45 minutes or so since the last pick right?

Fallerjw said:

ILoveMyLions said:

Bonzai said:

my in-depth analysis for the draft thus far:1 Oakland / Atomic Punk - Calvin Johnson WR, Georgia Tech: 2 Detroit / ILoveMyLions- Jamarcus Russel QB, LSU: 3 Cleveland / Fallerjw- Joe Thomas OT, Wisconsin: 4 Tampa Bay / prymetyme25 - Gaines Adams DE Clemson: 5 Arizona / Andy Dufrense - Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma: 6 Washington / Mr. Peterson - Amobe Okoye DT Louisville: 7 Minnesota / Shamrock84 - Brady Quinn, QB Notre Dame:

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Who would you have taken for the Lions at #2?

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and for the Browns at pick 3?

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i don't see how the browns pass on AD or quinn there.i think their line is pretty good.

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ILoveMyLions said:

Bonzai said:

my in-depth analysis for the draft thus far:1 Oakland / Atomic Punk - Calvin Johnson WR, Georgia Tech: 2 Detroit / ILoveMyLions- Jamarcus Russel QB, LSU: 3 Cleveland / Fallerjw- Joe Thomas OT, Wisconsin: 4 Tampa Bay / prymetyme25 - Gaines Adams DE Clemson: 5 Arizona / Andy Dufrense - Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma: 6 Washington / Mr. Peterson - Amobe Okoye DT Louisville: 7 Minnesota / Shamrock84 - Brady Quinn, QB Notre Dame:

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Who would you have taken for the Lions at #2?

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martz has had great success taking QB's with adequate skill sets and making them special. russel just doesn't fit that mold of QB that he has had success with, while mccown and orlovsky are both adequate and i think could do well there.i would think thomas or gaines would be the pick there. if they did go QB i like quinn better.

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I think Quinn is overrated and is less of a Martz QB than Russell is due to his accuracy. I would agree that Martz has found gems not picked early, but Orlovsky and McCown aren't the answers. McCown is likely traded and Orlovsky isn't really developing from all I read on him. QBs can be found later in the draft, as they can at every position; but many top QBs are picked in the 1st round and not many are found in the later rounds. I think Russell's abiilties are too good to pass up when a team needs a franchise QB. Thomas is a safe player, but Backus is locked up long term and Foster was brought in for RT. Adams is a need, but DE is the deepest position in this draft and have a tendency to bust like QBs and WRs do. I'll go for the upside and pick the player who could bring us to a Super Bowl.

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Fallerjw said:

ILoveMyLions said:

Bonzai said:

my in-depth analysis for the draft thus far:1 Oakland / Atomic Punk - Calvin Johnson WR, Georgia Tech: 2 Detroit / ILoveMyLions- Jamarcus Russel QB, LSU: 3 Cleveland / Fallerjw- Joe Thomas OT, Wisconsin: 4 Tampa Bay / prymetyme25 - Gaines Adams DE Clemson: 5 Arizona / Andy Dufrense - Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma: 6 Washington / Mr. Peterson - Amobe Okoye DT Louisville: 7 Minnesota / Shamrock84 - Brady Quinn, QB Notre Dame:

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Who would you have taken for the Lions at #2?

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and for the Browns at pick 3?

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i don't see how the browns pass on AD or quinn there.i think their line is pretty good.

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I know they picked up Steinbach, but they allowed 53 sacks last year. I still think it's an area that can be improved. Like I said, Quinn and AD were options, but I couldn't give up the chance at a top notch tackle.

ILoveMyLions said:

Bonzai said:

ILoveMyLions said:

Bonzai said:

my in-depth analysis for the draft thus far:1 Oakland / Atomic Punk - Calvin Johnson WR, Georgia Tech: 2 Detroit / ILoveMyLions- Jamarcus Russel QB, LSU: 3 Cleveland / Fallerjw- Joe Thomas OT, Wisconsin: 4 Tampa Bay / prymetyme25 - Gaines Adams DE Clemson: 5 Arizona / Andy Dufrense - Adrian Peterson RB Oklahoma: 6 Washington / Mr. Peterson - Amobe Okoye DT Louisville: 7 Minnesota / Shamrock84 - Brady Quinn, QB Notre Dame:

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Who would you have taken for the Lions at #2?

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martz has had great success taking QB's with adequate skill sets and making them special. russel just doesn't fit that mold of QB that he has had success with, while mccown and orlovsky are both adequate and i think could do well there.i would think thomas or gaines would be the pick there. if they did go QB i like quinn better.

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I think Quinn is overrated and is less of a Martz QB than Russell is due to his accuracy. I would agree that Martz has found gems not picked early, but Orlovsky and McCown aren't the answers. McCown is likely traded and Orlovsky isn't really developing from all I read on him. QBs can be found later in the draft, as they can at every position; but many top QBs are picked in the 1st round and not many are found in the later rounds. I think Russell's abiilties are too good to pass up when a team needs a franchise QB. Thomas is a safe player, but Backus is locked up long term and Foster was brought in for RT. Adams is a need, but DE is the deepest position in this draft and have a tendency to bust like QBs and WRs do. I'll go for the upside and pick the player who could bring us to a Super Bowl.

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This is the reason I didn't put Quinn with the Bucs. His accuracy on the deep ball. This was the same problem Gradkowski had and it limited the play calling and production.

Blackjacks said:

I hate waiting...............I see this as the easiest pick to this point

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Who would have been your pick? I did not consider it easy with several different directions the Falcons could go with that pick. But I did find it easy to pick Landry for them as I am sold on his ability to be a elite player as well as a safety/defensive back being the Falcons greatest need. That Landry can help so much against the run works towards solving another problem for them as well.

Biabreakable said:

Blackjacks said:

I hate waiting...............I see this as the easiest pick to this point

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Who would have been your pick? I did not consider it easy with several different directions the Falcons could go with that pick. But I did find it easy to pick Landry for them as I am sold on his ability to be a elite player as well as a safety/defensive back being the Falcons greatest need. That Landry can help so much against the run works towards solving another problem for them as well.

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I think you nailed the no brainer there. Landry is an elite talent.It's the next pick I think is a bit of a mistake. There are can't miss impact players available and Levi is going to need some work BEFORE the growing pains hurt the offense a little. Brown is a luxury for a team who has the ability to develop him, imo...

Biabreakable said:

Blackjacks said:

I hate waiting...............I see this as the easiest pick to this point

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Who would have been your pick? I did not consider it easy with several different directions the Falcons could go with that pick. But I did find it easy to pick Landry for them as I am sold on his ability to be a elite player as well as a safety/defensive back being the Falcons greatest need. That Landry can help so much against the run works towards solving another problem for them as well.

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You and I are definetly on the same page Atl will be giddy if he is there. One of 3 safe players in the top 10 that I just can't see being less than All Pro in the next 3 years.

Biabreakable said:

Blackjacks said:

I hate waiting...............I see this as the easiest pick to this point

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Who would have been your pick? I did not consider it easy with several different directions the Falcons could go with that pick. But I did find it easy to pick Landry for them as I am sold on his ability to be a elite player as well as a safety/defensive back being the Falcons greatest need. That Landry can help so much against the run works towards solving another problem for them as well.

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Landry is the pick and I agree it was the easiest one so far.