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Guys I think we need to keep the draft thread free for picks so it's not so hard to look through the picks. How about we move our commentary to this thread?

 
So what is the consensus on Shaun Alexander? Prior to his injury last year the guy has not had less than 14 TDs in a season and is the workhorse of their offense. He cathes the ball well out of the backfield and still has Walter Jones leading the way on the left side.

All that and I still had a hard time pulling the trigger at the 7 spot and almost went with Travis Henry or Addai. Thoughts?

 
I love the value of Thomas Jones this year. He's not as flashy as some of the other backs available, but he's a proven vet who now has the best supporting cast of his career. He won't carry my team, but he won't kill me either.

 
EBF said:
I love the value of Thomas Jones this year. He's not as flashy as some of the other backs available, but he's a proven vet who now has the best supporting cast of his career. He won't carry my team, but he won't kill me either.
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I like Jones as well. That said, you certainly could have waited until your second round selection to get him. In the first round, he's not much of a value, I'm afraid.
 
Thom Yorke said:
EBF said:
I love the value of Thomas Jones this year. He's not as flashy as some of the other backs available, but he's a proven vet who now has the best supporting cast of his career. He won't carry my team, but he won't kill me either.
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I like Jones as well. That said, you certainly could have waited until your second round selection to get him. In the first round, he's not much of a value, I'm afraid.
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Probably true, but there's a big dropoff between him and the other RBs on my board. My philosophy is get your guys, even if you have to overpay a little bit. I think it's especially true in survivor.
 
EBF said:
Thom Yorke said:
EBF said:
I love the value of Thomas Jones this year. He's not as flashy as some of the other backs available, but he's a proven vet who now has the best supporting cast of his career. He won't carry my team, but he won't kill me either.
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I like Jones as well. That said, you certainly could have waited until your second round selection to get him. In the first round, he's not much of a value, I'm afraid.
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Probably true, but there's a big dropoff between him and the other RBs on my board. My philosophy is get your guys, even if you have to overpay a little bit. I think it's especially true in survivor.
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Again, I don't disagree. I just think the odds of Jones going at the turn were approximately zero. You could have nabbed your #1 WR, a TE, or the next RB on your board and still had TJ. Still, I don't disagree with your comment in the draft thread that Jones could have a top 10 finish. So, GL to ya :shock:
 
Thom Yorke said:
EBF said:
Thom Yorke said:
EBF said:
I love the value of Thomas Jones this year. He's not as flashy as some of the other backs available, but he's a proven vet who now has the best supporting cast of his career. He won't carry my team, but he won't kill me either.
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I like Jones as well. That said, you certainly could have waited until your second round selection to get him. In the first round, he's not much of a value, I'm afraid.
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Probably true, but there's a big dropoff between him and the other RBs on my board. My philosophy is get your guys, even if you have to overpay a little bit. I think it's especially true in survivor.
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Again, I don't disagree. I just think the odds of Jones going at the turn were approximately zero. You could have nabbed your #1 WR, a TE, or the next RB on your board and still had TJ. Still, I don't disagree with your comment in the draft thread that Jones could have a top 10 finish. So, GL to ya :goodposting:
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At that pick, if you see a dropoff at RB and not much at what your expecting in three picks, it makes sense to me.
 
Not a whole lot to comment on right now since we aren't even done round 1 (after 2 days of drafting).

I'm not so sure about Frank Gore living up to his draft spot. 61 receptions is a lot to live up to sans Norv Turner, and the 49ers brought in some more receiving threats this offseason to take catches away.

 
Not a big fan of taking WRs early in survivor, but Chad Johnson is as solid as they come and was clearly the BPA. With Henry out of commision for at least 8 games, I look for CJ to possibly have his best season in years.

 
Thom Yorke said:
EBF said:
Thom Yorke said:
EBF said:
I love the value of Thomas Jones this year. He's not as flashy as some of the other backs available, but he's a proven vet who now has the best supporting cast of his career. He won't carry my team, but he won't kill me either.
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I like Jones as well. That said, you certainly could have waited until your second round selection to get him. In the first round, he's not much of a value, I'm afraid.
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Probably true, but there's a big dropoff between him and the other RBs on my board. My philosophy is get your guys, even if you have to overpay a little bit. I think it's especially true in survivor.
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Again, I don't disagree. I just think the odds of Jones going at the turn were approximately zero. You could have nabbed your #1 WR, a TE, or the next RB on your board and still had TJ. Still, I don't disagree with your comment in the draft thread that Jones could have a top 10 finish. So, GL to ya :whistle:
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He did! While I agree with the premise--it made absolutely no difference the way if panned out...
 
Didn't mean to hold things up. I was surprised that I didn't get a call Wednesday syaing I was up. Checked my voice mail last nite at around 7...woke up this morning to find I had timed out. I should be good until next weekend. Drafting on the end should make it easy to pre-pick.

Vary happy with Gates and Benson to start this show off.

 
In these drafts it seems that everyone is "happy" to see a player fall or thrilled with the way their team is shaping up.

Just thought that I would add that Edge in the mid second appears to be a time where a player REALLY DID fall and the owner really should be happy to get him there.

As for the Benson pick, sure it made sense. However, I've got to believe that there were other RBs that Bass would have been a little happier to see fall to him. Benson seems to be the "best of the rest" and not a guy that someone looks forward to building a team around. Not trying to pick on anyone, just wanting to get some opinions. Was he targeted? or best of the rest?

 
Chaz said:
In these drafts it seems that everyone is "happy" to see a player fall or thrilled with the way their team is shaping up.Just thought that I would add that Edge in the mid second appears to be a time where a player REALLY DID fall and the owner really should be happy to get him there.As for the Benson pick, sure it made sense. However, I've got to believe that there were other RBs that Bass would have been a little happier to see fall to him. Benson seems to be the "best of the rest" and not a guy that someone looks forward to building a team around. Not trying to pick on anyone, just wanting to get some opinions. Was he targeted? or best of the rest?
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Best of the rest. Not having a RB on your roster after the first two rounds is suicide. Maroney is the guy that I wanted. I don't think I've ever seen 15 straight RBs come off the board to start a draft...16 if you include Benson since 1.16 and 2.1 are interchangable. He may be a bust, but will get the opportunity to prove otherwise this year. Benson/Edge was an option, but I wanted to accept the Gates challenge.
 
KnowledgeReignsSupreme said:
Can someone explain why Edgerrin James is considered a good value where he was taken?TIA
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The offensive line had no continuity in the first 2/3 of the season in 06 and Warner started for most of those games so the offense was not moving the ball and there was little running room. As the o line played together more they improved their run blocking and Edge started putting together some 100 yard games...so basically the rushing game improved quite a bit as 2006 went on.In 2007 we have three new starters on the offensive line including the #5 overall pick who was rated as the top run blocker in the draft by most scouts. One of the best Oline coaches in the business came over from Pittsburg with a new head coach that is committed to running the ball.Edge is a lock for solid numbers in '07.
 
Sure hope Caddy returns to his expected form. He was just too much value to pass up at that spot.

 
I see both Caddy and Edge as low risk but with top-ten potential. Good picks, and I almost took Caddy last turn, but I just saw a little more value at the WR position.

 
So far, seems like a lot of love in the first two rounds for value. Not many players people didn't like.

I hope it lasts to my next two picks.

My choices were Fitz, Brown, and Manning. I felt Fitz the safer route.

 
LHUCKS said:
In 2007 we have three new starters on the offensive line including the #5 overall pick who was rated as the top run blocker in the draft by most scouts.
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This is very interesting, in light of you having just said this:
The offensive line had no continuity in the first 2/3 of the season in 06
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So basically you're saying "we had no continuity last year, but we solved it by adding 3 new starters, including a rookie".Isn't that a recipe for continued non continuity?
 
KnowledgeReignsSupreme said:
LHUCKS said:
In 2007 we have three new starters on the offensive line including the #5 overall pick who was rated as the top run blocker in the draft by most scouts.
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This is very interesting, in light of you having just said this:
The offensive line had no continuity in the first 2/3 of the season in 06
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So basically you're saying "we had no continuity last year, but we solved it by adding 3 new starters, including a rookie".Isn't that a recipe for continued non continuity?
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Not with Whisenhunt and Grimm shaping them up :thumbdown:
 
KnowledgeReignsSupreme said:
So basically you're saying "we had no continuity last year, but we solved it by adding 3 new starters, including a rookie".Isn't that a recipe for continued non continuity?
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there was no continuity because of injury...players were playing out of position and not very good ones.Now we have more depth and better players and better coaching.
 
Went with Lynch at 3.15. Peterson has more upside, but I think Lynch will be more durable, have less competition for touches, and get more catches. I wish he had an earlier bye, but he should be a good back for me.

 
EBF said:
Went with Lynch at 3.15. Peterson has more upside, but I think Lynch will be more durable, have less competition for touches, and get more catches. I wish he had an earlier bye, but he should be a good back for me.
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I would have gone AD and Lynch at the turn if you didn't take him.
 
Not thrilled with Burress at 4.1. Three concerns...

1) The team will quit on Coughlin.

2) His bye matches Benson's

3) His scoring is too heavily based on TDs.

Positives about the pick...

I have total flexibility to go QB/RB/WR at the next turn. Considered a QB but value can always be found later.

We score three so I did need one guy who can post huge weeks.

Manning can't suck any worse this year.

 
I was all set to take Plexiglass with my 4th round pick but he went at the turn. I ended up taking Mark Clayton, but I have some reservations about the pick. I think he took over the role of WR1 in Baltimore from Mason last year and should continue to build on last year's numbers. But the key is how long McNair can stay healthy and there is a risk that last year was a career year.

 
BassNBrew said:
Not thrilled with Burress at 4.1. Three concerns...

1) The team will quit on Coughlin.

2) His bye matches Benson's

3) His scoring is too heavily based on TDs.

Positives about the pick...

I have total flexibility to go QB/RB/WR at the next turn. Considered a QB but value can always be found later.

We score three so I did need one guy who can post huge weeks.

Manning can't suck any worse this year.
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Historically, Plaxico had been a boom/bust guy from week to week. However, he was actually pretty consistent last year (I think he had only 4 games where he didn't hit double digit scoring, and that was WITHOUT PPR). Who knows if that will continue, of course.
 
JohnDoe said:
I was all set to take Plexiglass with my 4th round pick but he went at the turn. I ended up taking Mark Clayton, but I have some reservations about the pick. I think he took over the role of WR1 in Baltimore from Mason last year and should continue to build on last year's numbers. But the key is how long McNair can stay healthy and there is a risk that last year was a career year.
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Maybe not a great value at this juncture, but he's a solid survivor WR.
 
DeAngelo may look like a steal at 4.14, but I was actually targeting Jamal Lewis or Marshawn Lynch there, who I have ranked even higher. Nice drafting, guys -- other leagues were letting them drop much too far.

 
I thought long and hard about DeAngelo at 4.11, but then decided to reach for LenDale White. I think he's being undervalued right now - I know in a PPR league, he's not going to catch a ton of passes, but right now he's pretty much all they have in that backfield. Chris Henry is overrated and not only doesn't have the pedigree of White, but is a rookie to boot. I can't imagine a scenario (unless Tennessee adds a veteran back and at this point, I don't see it) where White doesn't get about 250 carries. Even at a sub 4.0 YPC (likely) - I still like him to end up with around 1,000 yards and 5-6 TDs.

 
Evilgrin 72 said:
I thought long and hard about DeAngelo at 4.11, but then decided to reach for LenDale White. I think he's being undervalued right now - I know in a PPR league, he's not going to catch a ton of passes, but right now he's pretty much all they have in that backfield. Chris Henry is overrated and not only doesn't have the pedigree of White, but is a rookie to boot. I can't imagine a scenario (unless Tennessee adds a veteran back and at this point, I don't see it) where White doesn't get about 250 carries. Even at a sub 4.0 YPC (likely) - I still like him to end up with around 1,000 yards and 5-6 TDs.
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Not a bad pick at all. The hate for this guy boggles my mind.
 
Might as well use this thread as a team roster as well. I think DeAngelo was a great pick at 4.14. He's gonna be nice this year in a PPR format.

QB: Drew Brees, NOR /4

WR: Steve Smith, CAR /7

WR: Laveranues Coles, NYJ /10

WR: Bernard Berrian, CHI /9

WR: Eric Parker, SDG /7

RB: Maurice Jones-Drew, JAX /4

RB: Jerious Norwood, ATL /8

RB: Ladell Betts, WAS /4

RB: Michael Pittman, TAM /10

TE: Randy McMichael, STL /9

 
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EBF said:
Evilgrin 72 said:
I thought long and hard about DeAngelo at 4.11, but then decided to reach for LenDale White. I think he's being undervalued right now - I know in a PPR league, he's not going to catch a ton of passes, but right now he's pretty much all they have in that backfield. Chris Henry is overrated and not only doesn't have the pedigree of White, but is a rookie to boot. I can't imagine a scenario (unless Tennessee adds a veteran back and at this point, I don't see it) where White doesn't get about 250 carries. Even at a sub 4.0 YPC (likely) - I still like him to end up with around 1,000 yards and 5-6 TDs.
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Not a bad pick at all. The hate for this guy boggles my mind.
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