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Player Spotlight: Ronnie Brown (1 Viewer)

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2007 Player Spotlight Series

Over the course of the offseason, we will be evaluating a multitude of players at every fantasy position. One such way we go about that is through the Player Spotlight series. Think of the Spotlights as a permanent record on some of the more intriguing players for the upcoming season. Each Spotlight will be featured in an article on the main website.

Thread Topic: Ronnie Brown, RB, Miami Dolphins

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I recently traded Ronnie not due to not having faith in his abilty but due to the surrounding pieces in Miami right now and the fact in my dynasty league he was up at the end of the year. I think Ronnie is a special talent and will be a premiere rb in the league. However I don't see it happening this year. I still think he will be a top 15 rb at a ceiling of a top 10 finish. I see his #'s looking like this

280 carries 1100 yards rushing

50 catches 400 recieving

7 total td's

I do believe Ronnie is a exceptional talent

He was very consistent last year before his injury scoring 9 points or more in every game except for one and that was against Minn. who had a hell of a rushing defense. Then after injury had (2) 100 yard games to finish the season. I wouldn't trust Ronnie as a #1rb but as a great #2 rb.

 
Blackjacks said:
I recently traded Ronnie not due to not having faith in his abilty but due to the surrounding pieces in Miami right now and the fact in my dynasty league he was up at the end of the year. I think Ronnie is a special talent and will be a premiere rb in the league. However I don't see it happening this year. I still think he will be a top 15 rb at a ceiling of a top 10 finish. I see his #'s looking like this280 carries 1100 yards rushing50 catches 400 recieving 7 total td'sI do believe Ronnie is a exceptional talent He was very consistent last year before his injury scoring 9 points or more in every game except for one and that was against Minn. who had a hell of a rushing defense. Then after injury had (2) 100 yard games to finish the season. I wouldn't trust Ronnie as a #1rb but as a great #2 rb.
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:kicksrock: I am expecting similar numbers for Ronnie. Brown is crazy strong and fast, and has good feet movement to boot, but while his numbers each game are consistent, play to play I see a different RB, one that at times can dominate, and at other times falls too easily. I'm projecting the same numbers as Blackjacks.
 
Blackjacks said:
I recently traded Ronnie not due to not having faith in his abilty but due to the surrounding pieces in Miami right now and the fact in my dynasty league he was up at the end of the year. I think Ronnie is a special talent and will be a premiere rb in the league. However I don't see it happening this year. I still think he will be a top 15 rb at a ceiling of a top 10 finish. I see his #'s looking like this280 carries 1100 yards rushing50 catches 400 recieving 7 total td'sI do believe Ronnie is a exceptional talent He was very consistent last year before his injury scoring 9 points or more in every game except for one and that was against Minn. who had a hell of a rushing defense. Then after injury had (2) 100 yard games to finish the season. I wouldn't trust Ronnie as a #1rb but as a great #2 rb.
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Dynasty league , is Michael Turner and Brandon Marshall too much for Brown.Browns 320 carries - 1350yds 48 rec - 330 yds 12 total TD's ( The guy has zero competiton on a decent offense if they get Green ).
 
I like ROnnie Brown this year and think you can get him much cheaper than last year. He is their bread and butter, will get a ton of carries and all the goalline looks. This is an improving oline with a solid defense and if they can get an adequate QB even better for Brown's #s. I see him getting about 20 carries a game with a low YPC of about 4. But he will get a lot of goalline TDs.

320 att, 1300 yds, 12 tds, 22 rec, 150 yds, 0 tds

 
One thing I learned last year was a bad O-line and QB implosion can derail almost any RB's year except the best RB talents (which I don't think Brown is one of). Just for historical perspective, last year prior to the season Brown ranked 5th, Jordan 8th, Caddy 9th and Edge 11th. These guys all failed miserably due largely to bad o-lines and/or bad QB's situations even though all are talented backs. I've been looking for similar minefields this year and IMO Miami is screaming risk at both the QB and O-line situations and I'll be avoiding Brown as a result. They play in a very tough division to boot.

 
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phthalatemagic said:
Brown won't be doing much for you this year260/870/435/400/1
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i really don't see him averaging just 3.3 yards per carry, and then doing 11.4 per catch. are you sure you don't have him confused with reggie bush?i'll be happy if brown can just stay healthy.290 1160 4.0 8 and 42 340 8.1 1
 
Brown had 6 games with 15 or fewer carries last year and most of those were fairly close games. To me this showed the Saban was over his head in the NFL since he preferred to put the game in the hands of Cleo Lemon or Joey Harrington. Brown's QB and OL situation shouldn't be any worse than last year and I expect him to prove that he's a true bell cow back this year.

312/1305

40/326

8 TDs

 
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Phlash said:
Blackjacks said:
I recently traded Ronnie not due to not having faith in his abilty but due to the surrounding pieces in Miami right now and the fact in my dynasty league he was up at the end of the year. I think Ronnie is a special talent and will be a premiere rb in the league. However I don't see it happening this year. I still think he will be a top 15 rb at a ceiling of a top 10 finish. I see his #'s looking like this280 carries 1100 yards rushing50 catches 400 recieving 7 total td'sI do believe Ronnie is a exceptional talent He was very consistent last year before his injury scoring 9 points or more in every game except for one and that was against Minn. who had a hell of a rushing defense. Then after injury had (2) 100 yard games to finish the season. I wouldn't trust Ronnie as a #1rb but as a great #2 rb.
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:thumbdown: I am expecting similar numbers for Ronnie. Brown is crazy strong and fast, and has good feet movement to boot, but while his numbers each game are consistent, play to play I see a different RB, one that at times can dominate, and at other times falls too easily. I'm projecting the same numbers as Blackjacks.
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huh? :banned: this guy is Keith Byars, version 2.0no fancy moves, has great hands, and if he's fast, he doesn't run like it.he looks slow to me. plays behind a pathetic offensive line, with NO qb to speak of . how's he going to get back to the line of scrimmage with Cleo Lemon at QB? Trent Green? c'mon now..can you say 9 man fronts?! new OC, new HC ( same guy)...Miami's offense is known as the `no talent bums'. factor in 6 games against NE , Jets,Bills and their improved defenses.280 1064 yards, 3.8 per carry.8 tds.yawn.. :yawn:
 
I think his upside is limited by the Dolphin's O line, and he doesn't have 60-70 catch potential anymore due to Lorenzo Booker's presence. I also think it will be hard for him to put up elite numbers if the offense doesn't improve. All this being said, I still think he has elite speed and power, and is pretty elusive for his size. I think he will take a step forward this year with Cam Cameron.

315 carries for 1354 yards rushing (4.3 average)

45 catches for 360 yards (8.0 average)

12 total TDs

 
nygiants56 said:
Phlash said:
Blackjacks said:
I recently traded Ronnie not due to not having faith in his abilty but due to the surrounding pieces in Miami right now and the fact in my dynasty league he was up at the end of the year. I think Ronnie is a special talent and will be a premiere rb in the league. However I don't see it happening this year. I still think he will be a top 15 rb at a ceiling of a top 10 finish. I see his #'s looking like this280 carries 1100 yards rushing50 catches 400 recieving 7 total td'sI do believe Ronnie is a exceptional talent He was very consistent last year before his injury scoring 9 points or more in every game except for one and that was against Minn. who had a hell of a rushing defense. Then after injury had (2) 100 yard games to finish the season. I wouldn't trust Ronnie as a #1rb but as a great #2 rb.
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:confused: I am expecting similar numbers for Ronnie. Brown is crazy strong and fast, and has good feet movement to boot, but while his numbers each game are consistent, play to play I see a different RB, one that at times can dominate, and at other times falls too easily. I'm projecting the same numbers as Blackjacks.
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huh? ;) this guy is Keith Byars, version 2.0no fancy moves, has great hands, and if he's fast, he doesn't run like it.he looks slow to me. plays behind a pathetic offensive line, with NO qb to speak of . how's he going to get back to the line of scrimmage with Cleo Lemon at QB? Trent Green? c'mon now..can you say 9 man fronts?! new OC, new HC ( same guy)...Miami's offense is known as the `no talent bums'. factor in 6 games against NE , Jets,Bills and their improved defenses.280 1064 yards, 3.8 per carry.8 tds.yawn.. :hot:
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I don't understand the :D look. You basically out him right where I did.
 
Banger said:
One thing I learned last year was a bad O-line and QB implosion can derail almost any RB's year except the best RB talents (which I don't think Brown is one of). Just for historical perspective, last year prior to the season Brown ranked 5th, Jordan 8th, Caddy 9th and Edge 11th. These guys all failed miserably due largely to bad o-lines and/or bad QB's situations even though all are talented backs. I've been looking for similar minefields this year and IMO Miami is screaming risk at both the QB and O-line situations and I'll be avoiding Brown as a result. They play in a very tough division to boot.
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:( 270 carries1100 yards7 TD's20 rec150 yds1 TDLike most people here, I believe he has the talent but his overall situation will impact on him again this year. He is yet to prove throughout his college and pro career that he can be the bell cow so that's why I only factor in 270 carries. I see few receptions than he's had in his first 2 seasons because Booker will steal the looks there.
 
I can't see him doing a lot better or worse this year. His OL and QB situation last year was about as bad as it can get. My projections are based upon last year's production, corrected for the assumption that I expect him to play all sixteen games this year. I don't see Booker cutting into his production much.

295 attempts/ 1239 yards/ 6 TDs/40 receptions/340 yards.

These numbers are based upon the same performance as last year over a 16 rather than 13 game season.

 
Ronnie Brown was drafted 2nd overall out of Auburn where he was very successful in a RBBC co-star role with Cadillac Williams. There were questions at the time of that draft about both he and Cadillac "stepping up" to a starring role in the NFL.

Now fast forward to the summer of 2007 and Ronnie Brown has a new coach again to learn some new systems, but he still has a poor offensive line. In two seasons, he had a rookie year where he played in 15 games having only three with twenty or more carries and last year played in thirteen games, with five having twenty or more carries.

He also has only five TDS in each of his first two seasons. He has been an adequate receiver, but with the acquisition of Lorenzo Booker, I see the same or possible less involvement in the passing game for Ronnie Brown.

Now come stories of his weight being close to 240. FBG's player page has him at 223. He's too heavy to keep his speed and to me that was his strength, much more than a power runner.

I just keep seeing too few carries and a poor offensive line adding up to another sub-par season for Ronnie Brown. I'll go with:

245 carries 1005 yards for 4.1 ypc and 4 TDs

30 receptions for 240 yards and no TDs

probably around RB 25 or so, not close to where he's being drafted.

 
All I know is that in a dynasty league, NO ONE seems to value Brown. I shopped him around in my league, 1 pt per reception, and its like I was offering Lamont Jordan. :goodposting:

 
i've said since his rookie season that Ronnie Brown's style reminds me alot of LaDanian Tomlinson. I really think Brown is going to be a horse in this league and I think it starts this year with LT's old offensive coordinator, Cam Cameron. He knows how to get the most out of his players abilities, and I think Brown is up for a pretty big year. I'd be shocked if he didn't score 10 touchdowns this season.

310 carries 1250 yards 10 TD's

35 catches 310 yards 2 TD's

I really think he'll be a Top 5 back this season

 
I personally am not sure that I see the addition of Cam Cameron as a reason to upgrade Brown at all. Cameron's offense looked good in San Diego because he had talent oozing out of his ears there. Cameron featured the RB heavily in San Diego because he had a future HOFer at RB there. Miami's offense in no way resembles San Diego's, and Ronnie Brown in no way resembles LT.

That said, I like the guy's talent as a good to very good NFL RB. He has averaged almost 4.3 per carry in his career despite receiving little offensive support. I do think that the aquisition of Lorenzo Booker will hurt his receiving totals, and his TDs will be limited due to the general ineptitude of the Dolphins offense.

280 carries for 1190 yards, 30 catches for 240 yards, 7 total TDs

 
Coeur de Lion said:
I personally am not sure that I see the addition of Cam Cameron as a reason to upgrade Brown at all. Cameron's offense looked good in San Diego because he had talent oozing out of his ears there. Cameron featured the RB heavily in San Diego because he had a future HOFer at RB there. Miami's offense in no way resembles San Diego's, and Ronnie Brown in no way resembles LT.That said, I like the guy's talent as a good to very good NFL RB. He has averaged almost 4.3 per carry in his career despite receiving little offensive support. I do think that the aquisition of Lorenzo Booker will hurt his receiving totals, and his TDs will be limited due to the general ineptitude of the Dolphins offense.280 carries for 1190 yards, 30 catches for 240 yards, 7 total TDs
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I couldn't disagree more. Is Philip Rivers a Pro Bowl QB? Name the WRs in SD? Are they "hall of famers"? Yes, he had Gates, but I suspect his coaching had a lot to do with the discovery of Gates. And he had LT. LT IS a hall of fame talent, but who is to say Brown won't be in the right system with decent OL. Was the OL in SD manned by house hold names? I can't name one of them. That gives me hope that Cam can turn around the OL in Miami too--and he has made some changes there already. I think 1250 yards, 10 TDs and 35 receptions for 350 yards is a low ball prediction. As far as booker, Michael Turner is a much better back than Booker and he didn't see the field that much in SD. I don't think that CAm is a RBBC guy and Booker has no where near the talent that Brown does and is vastly overrated. He never even had a 1,000 yards in four years at Florida State.
 
az_prof said:
Coeur de Lion said:
I personally am not sure that I see the addition of Cam Cameron as a reason to upgrade Brown at all. Cameron's offense looked good in San Diego because he had talent oozing out of his ears there. Cameron featured the RB heavily in San Diego because he had a future HOFer at RB there. Miami's offense in no way resembles San Diego's, and Ronnie Brown in no way resembles LT.That said, I like the guy's talent as a good to very good NFL RB. He has averaged almost 4.3 per carry in his career despite receiving little offensive support. I do think that the aquisition of Lorenzo Booker will hurt his receiving totals, and his TDs will be limited due to the general ineptitude of the Dolphins offense.280 carries for 1190 yards, 30 catches for 240 yards, 7 total TDs
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I couldn't disagree more. Is Philip Rivers a Pro Bowl QB? Name the WRs in SD? Are they "hall of famers"? Yes, he had Gates, but I suspect his coaching had a lot to do with the discovery of Gates. And he had LT. LT IS a hall of fame talent, but who is to say Brown won't be in the right system with decent OL. Was the OL in SD manned by house hold names? I can't name one of them. That gives me hope that Cam can turn around the OL in Miami too--and he has made some changes there already. I think 1250 yards, 10 TDs and 35 receptions for 350 yards is a low ball prediction. As far as booker, Michael Turner is a much better back than Booker and he didn't see the field that much in SD. I don't think that CAm is a RBBC guy and Booker has no where near the talent that Brown does and is vastly overrated. He never even had a 1,000 yards in four years at Florida State.
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I have to side with az. Yes, I'm a Ronnie owner (traded up to get him in the 1st :rant: ). That said, didn't the Dolphins add one of the most hyped O-line coaches recently? Cameron's offense was not littered with special talent, but did have a couple guys. A stud TE, good QB play and a HOF :loco: at RB, but took no-name OL and turned them into pro-bowl quality units. Good reason to think that last year may have been rock-bottom.ETA - Brown was a top 10 back in most scoring formats before the broken hand. Why won't this continue?
 
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az_prof said:
I couldn't disagree more. Is Philip Rivers a Pro Bowl QB? Name the WRs in SD? Are they "hall of famers"? Yes, he had Gates, but I suspect his coaching had a lot to do with the discovery of Gates. And he had LT. LT IS a hall of fame talent, but who is to say Brown won't be in the right system with decent OL. Was the OL in SD manned by house hold names? I can't name one of them. That gives me hope that Cam can turn around the OL in Miami too--and he has made some changes there already. I think 1250 yards, 10 TDs and 35 receptions for 350 yards is a low ball prediction. As far as booker, Michael Turner is a much better back than Booker and he didn't see the field that much in SD. I don't think that CAm is a RBBC guy and Booker has no where near the talent that Brown does and is vastly overrated. He never even had a 1,000 yards in four years at Florida State.
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1.) Actually, yes, Rivers was selected to play in the Pro Bowl last year. Deserving or not (Brady got hosed) he is much better than Trent Green/Cleo Lemon.2.) Gates is the best TE in the NFL. I'd credit AJ Smith's great scouting for him rather than Cameron's coaching. There is no one comparable to Gates on the Miami roster.3.) The WRs in Sand Diego are comparable to those in Miami, so that is about a wash.4.) A quick glance at the team offensive production from Miami and San Diego will show you how much better the SD line is.5.) Booker isn't a threat to steal Brown's starting spot at all, but he will be much more effective in the passing game. He complements Brown in this way. The LT/Turner comparison is not even remotely relevant as the skill-sets of the players involved isn't comparable (LT>Turner in all aspects, Booker>Brown in the open field).6.) Are you really saying that the only difference between LT and Ronnie Brown might be Cam Cameron's coaching?
 
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