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Player Spotlight: Jerry Porter (1 Viewer)

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2007 Player Spotlight Series

Over the course of the offseason, we will be evaluating a multitude of players at every fantasy position. One such way we go about that is through the Player Spotlight series. Think of the Spotlights as a permanent record on some of the more intriguing players for the upcoming season. Each Spotlight will be featured in an article on the main website.

Thread Topic: Jerry Porter, WR, Oakland Raiders

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Jerry Porter is a very interesting projection for 2007. He spent 06 in the Oakland Raider doghouse and off the field. On a team that featured Randy Moss, one of the premier attitude children in the NFL, Porter unquestionably topped Moss in the bad attitude analysis. But, was it just a matter of not getting along with a couple of coaches that are now gone?

In the previous five seasons, Porter has finished in the WR twenties three times, once at 90 when he missed six games and last year when he totally disappeared. His stats:

02 - 68 targets 51 catches 688 yards (13.5 ypc) 9 TDs WR 28 Gannon QB with Rice & Brown

03 - 57 targets 28 catches 361 yards (12.9 ypc) 1 TD WR 90 Gannon & Mirer QB with Rice & Brown

04 - 128 targets 64 catches 998 yards (15.6 ypc) 9 TDs WR 20 Collins QB with Curry & Gabriel

05 - 142 targets 76 catches 942 yards (12.4 ypc) 5 TDs WR 26 Collins QB with Moss & Gabriel

His best year, he averaged 9.0 ppg in non-ppr, but it was with a strong armed QB and less competition at WR. This year there are plenty of WRs to share the targets and the possibility of a rookie WB. Combine those facts with Porter virtually sitting out 06 and nobody knows what to expect. Therefore, he will be drafted very late and COULD present lots of value, but he also could be a bust as he tries to return from a long layoff. He's a player that if teamed with a solid roster AND he comes through with a top twenty WR season like in 04 & 05, COULD really strengthen a team, or not. I'll project that he does return and is a valuable player that can be drafted late, but I am not rock steady making it.

Porter 100 targets 60 catches 950 yards (15.8 ypc) 5 TDs

 
Call me crazy but Im high on Porter due for a bounceback season. New coaching staff, new QB, and hes pretty talented. Chalk me up as a believer. Ill look to grab him as my WR3 or 4 and I think you can get him late.

80 rec, 1000 yds, 6 tds

 
shadyridr said:
Call me crazy but Im high on Porter due for a bounceback season. New coaching staff, new QB, and hes pretty talented. Chalk me up as a believer. Ill look to grab him as my WR3 or 4 and I think you can get him late.80 rec, 1000 yds, 6 tds
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This is along the lines of what I'm thinking.
 
If Porter can equal 04 production, he will be doing really well. He has a young, inexperienced and unproven QB (no matter who starts) and a new offense to learn. He has always had issues staying healthy and being able to produce when injured. I would say 60/900/7.

 
redman said:
shadyridr said:
Call me crazy but Im high on Porter due for a bounceback season. New coaching staff, new QB, and hes pretty talented. Chalk me up as a believer. Ill look to grab him as my WR3 or 4 and I think you can get him late.80 rec, 1000 yds, 6 tds
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This is along the lines of what I'm thinking.
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I'm in also, but don't sleep on Ron Curry. IF his achilles can hold up, he could steal the show from JP, making both marginal fantasy starters as the Oakland offense tries to find some footing.
 
redman said:
shadyridr said:
Call me crazy but Im high on Porter due for a bounceback season. New coaching staff, new QB, and hes pretty talented. Chalk me up as a believer. Ill look to grab him as my WR3 or 4 and I think you can get him late.80 rec, 1000 yds, 6 tds
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This is along the lines of what I'm thinking.
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I think you are both forgetting this is the Raiders we are talking about.The OL can not block and nearly got every QB on the roster last year hurt - they are starting a rookie QB and they lost their best player (Moss). They hired a coach who could not land a college head coaching job at a middle tier program like the University of Minnesota and has never been a head coach at the college level (let alone the NFL). This is a team to totally avoid fantasy wise this year (except the defense). Porter is a malcontent just ask ex Raiders head coaches Gruden and Shell who lacks work ethic and has a misguided sense of entitlement. 50 rec 650 yds 4 tds
 
perry147 said:
redman said:
shadyridr said:
Call me crazy but Im high on Porter due for a bounceback season. New coaching staff, new QB, and hes pretty talented. Chalk me up as a believer. Ill look to grab him as my WR3 or 4 and I think you can get him late.80 rec, 1000 yds, 6 tds
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This is along the lines of what I'm thinking.
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I think you are both forgetting this is the Raiders we are talking about.The OL can not block and nearly got every QB on the roster last year hurt - they are starting a rookie QB and they lost their best player (Moss). They hired a coach who could not land a college head coaching job at a middle tier program like the University of Minnesota and has never been a head coach at the college level (let alone the NFL). This is a team to totally avoid fantasy wise this year (except the defense). Porter is a malcontent just ask ex Raiders head coaches Gruden and Shell who lacks work ethic and has a misguided sense of entitlement. 50 rec 650 yds 4 tds
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But you forget that McCown and/or Russell is already a drastic improvement over Walter. This team has nowhere to go but up. And IMO Coach Kiffen will be phenomenal and is an offensive minded coach.
 
shadyridr said:
perry147 said:
redman said:
shadyridr said:
Call me crazy but Im high on Porter due for a bounceback season. New coaching staff, new QB, and hes pretty talented. Chalk me up as a believer. Ill look to grab him as my WR3 or 4 and I think you can get him late.80 rec, 1000 yds, 6 tds
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This is along the lines of what I'm thinking.
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I think you are both forgetting this is the Raiders we are talking about.The OL can not block and nearly got every QB on the roster last year hurt - they are starting a rookie QB and they lost their best player (Moss). They hired a coach who could not land a college head coaching job at a middle tier program like the University of Minnesota and has never been a head coach at the college level (let alone the NFL). This is a team to totally avoid fantasy wise this year (except the defense). Porter is a malcontent just ask ex Raiders head coaches Gruden and Shell who lacks work ethic and has a misguided sense of entitlement. 50 rec 650 yds 4 tds
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But you forget that McCown and/or Russell is already a drastic improvement over Walter. This team has nowhere to go but up. And IMO Coach Kiffen will be phenomenal and is an offensive minded coach.
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Indeed he is an offensive minded coach - but at the college level (and especially at USC) the talent level makes all the difference. He had two Heisman trophy winners to work with while at USC not to mention the talent at the other positions. I have heard good things coming out the Raiders OTA's this offseason about Kiffin but the problem with the Raiders is not all coaching but talent.
 
Porter is going to have his first 1000 yard season, which is long overdue anyway. I think he'll be the leader of the offense and a surprise to many.

84 rec, 1190 yards, 10 TD

 
It wasn't too long ago that Porter & Moss was considered the best WR tandem in the league. Reports out of minicamp suggest that Porter has embraced the new coaching regime and is working hard to earn his spot on the team.

Having said that, I am concerned with his ability to get back into playing shape after sitting out last year. Not just physically, but also mentally, and being able to play through the pain. With Moss gone, and with the existing issues at o-line, there is sufficient reason to think he's going to face an uphill battle.

I am hopeful that Russell can be this year's VY, and revitalize the offense almost single handedly. But for now, i believe they are still a year away and would temper projections accordingly.

50 rec, 650 yds, 5 tds

 
perry147 said:
I think you are both forgetting this is the Raiders we are talking about.The OL can not block and nearly got every QB on the roster last year hurt - they are starting a rookie QB and they lost their best player (Moss). They hired a coach who could not land a college head coaching job at a middle tier program like the University of Minnesota and has never been a head coach at the college level (let alone the NFL). This is a team to totally avoid fantasy wise this year (except the defense). Porter is a malcontent just ask ex Raiders head coaches Gruden and Shell who lacks work ethic and has a misguided sense of entitlement. 50 rec 650 yds 4 tds
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Nice, this is the exact type of thinking that year in and year out leads to opportunity during drafts and auctions. Is Porter worth a 5th round pick? I don't think so. But a 9th+ round flyer as my 4th or 5th WR? Your analysis says absolutely not. Mine says, he11 yeah!Low risk, high reward at that point, amigo. If he busts, I'll just pick up a waiver wire bum who will equal your Amani Toomer or Ike Bruce pick at that point in the draft/auction.I bet you avoided all Niners last year too, huh? What's your take on Frank Gore now? Whoops, it doesn't matter because the cat's now out of the bag.
 
LawFitz said:
perry147 said:
I think you are both forgetting this is the Raiders we are talking about.The OL can not block and nearly got every QB on the roster last year hurt - they are starting a rookie QB and they lost their best player (Moss). They hired a coach who could not land a college head coaching job at a middle tier program like the University of Minnesota and has never been a head coach at the college level (let alone the NFL). This is a team to totally avoid fantasy wise this year (except the defense). Porter is a malcontent just ask ex Raiders head coaches Gruden and Shell who lacks work ethic and has a misguided sense of entitlement. 50 rec 650 yds 4 tds
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Nice, this is the exact type of thinking that year in and year out leads to opportunity during drafts and auctions. Is Porter worth a 5th round pick? I don't think so. But a 9th+ round flyer as my 4th or 5th WR? Your analysis says absolutely not. Mine says, he11 yeah!Low risk, high reward at that point, amigo. If he busts, I'll just pick up a waiver wire bum who will equal your Amani Toomer or Ike Bruce pick at that point in the draft/auction.I bet you avoided all Niners last year too, huh? What's your take on Frank Gore now? Whoops, it doesn't matter because the cat's now out of the bag.
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Gore last year was a totally different situation. Gore has talent and a great attitude (remember he beat our McGahee while in Miami). The main issue with him was injury and looking out side of that he is well worth the chance last year. Porter is a waste of a roster spot so while you choose to draft him late I will be taking someone like Anthony Gonzalez or Hank Baskett. These are players just starting to pan out and are still under the radar. I hope Porter, Mike Williams and Travis Taylor all have fun together - it seems like they are three of a kind.Are you targeting them also in your league?
 
War Ensemble said:
Porter is going to have his first 1000 yard season, which is long overdue anyway. I think he'll be the leader of the offense and a surprise to many.84 rec, 1190 yards, 10 TD
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:puffpuffpass:I don't see Porter breaking 750 yards and 5TDs. Curry is the one to watch here.
 
perry147 said:
shadyridr said:
perry147 said:
redman said:
shadyridr said:
Call me crazy but Im high on Porter due for a bounceback season. New coaching staff, new QB, and hes pretty talented. Chalk me up as a believer. Ill look to grab him as my WR3 or 4 and I think you can get him late.80 rec, 1000 yds, 6 tds
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This is along the lines of what I'm thinking.
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I think you are both forgetting this is the Raiders we are talking about.The OL can not block and nearly got every QB on the roster last year hurt - they are starting a rookie QB and they lost their best player (Moss). They hired a coach who could not land a college head coaching job at a middle tier program like the University of Minnesota and has never been a head coach at the college level (let alone the NFL). This is a team to totally avoid fantasy wise this year (except the defense). Porter is a malcontent just ask ex Raiders head coaches Gruden and Shell who lacks work ethic and has a misguided sense of entitlement. 50 rec 650 yds 4 tds
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But you forget that McCown and/or Russell is already a drastic improvement over Walter. This team has nowhere to go but up. And IMO Coach Kiffen will be phenomenal and is an offensive minded coach.
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Indeed he is an offensive minded coach - but at the college level (and especially at USC) the talent level makes all the difference. He had two Heisman trophy winners to work with while at USC not to mention the talent at the other positions. I have heard good things coming out the Raiders OTA's this offseason about Kiffin but the problem with the Raiders is not all coaching but talent.
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Did he have two Heisman trophy winners or did he help mold and create two Heisman trophy winners. That is the million dollar question.
 
a good low risk/ medium reward player. ask 10 people, and you'll get 10 different values on this guy. i don't see him making the pro bowl this year, but what else is there in oakland?

60 840 14.0 5

 
-jb- said:
War Ensemble said:
Porter is going to have his first 1000 yard season, which is long overdue anyway. I think he'll be the leader of the offense and a surprise to many.

84 rec, 1190 yards, 10 TD
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:puffpuffpass:I don't see Porter breaking 750 yards and 5TDs. Curry is the one to watch here.
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:whistle:
 
perry147 said:
Gore last year was a totally different situation. Gore has talent and a great attitude (remember he beat our McGahee while in Miami). The main issue with him was injury and looking out side of that he is well worth the chance last year. Porter is a waste of a roster spot so while you choose to draft him late I will be taking someone like Anthony Gonzalez or Hank Baskett. These are players just starting to pan out and are still under the radar. I hope Porter, Mike Williams and Travis Taylor all have fun together - it seems like they are three of a kind.Are you targeting them also in your league?
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You missed my point about Gore. All I'm trying to say is that I wouldn't write off any team wholeheartedly. You never know who might step up.FWIW, I have Gonzalez ranked ahead of Porter, but Baskett behind both.
 
Take it for what it's worth, but I found this on the Raider message board today...

Andrew Walter came in to my restaurant again...

It was Fathers Day...working a double shift as usual and Andrew came in with his girlfriend or wife (?)....she is quite the stunner. A Very naturally beautiful woman. Anyway I passed by him and said Hello Mr. Walter how is the knee feeling? He said he has about another week left and he should be back on the field. He just said the hardest part is trying to keep the swelling down. Also I talked to him about Mr. Cable and how is he doing? Andrew said that it is almost night and day how different the offensive line is going to be....lets just say that made me happy. Andrew said it MIGHT be right away for the o-line to come together or a year. Also I talked to him about Jerry Porter. He said he is completely bought into this system and is energized about this upcoming year. Also I talked to him about Mike Williams and how he is doing...he said he did come into camp overweight...about 260!!!! JESUS!! BUT he did said he is in great condition now and the hard part for Mike is he keeps getting injured, but definitely has the talent. That is all I asked from him and just said good luck and I was rooting for him I didn't want to bug him anymore. He signed a piece of paper for me which was nice. He is a REALLY REALLY respectful and nice man and I'll be a Walter fan for life....

 
perry147 said:
Porter is a waste of a roster spot so while you choose to draft him late I will be taking someone like Anthony Gonzalez or Hank Baskett. These are players just starting to pan out and are still under the radar.
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Gee I wonder why :goodposting: Gonzo is WR3. It is rare to make much noise as a WR3, even on the Colts. Or do you expect Manning to toss 49 TDs again? Baskett? lmao - pls tell us that doesn't need explaining. True OAK does suck and I hate the putz, but if Porter makes even a semi-respectable effort, IMO he is WR1 be default and has FAR more upside. You talk about talent, well Porter, Russell, Jordan....not exactly the Colts, but there is talent. If the OL can be even just not pathetic...
 
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Tom Cable has brought in his cut blocking scheme from Atlanta. The O-Line which gave up 72 sacks last year will improve.

Between Porter and Curry, Porter has more upside. He's going to get the deep routes. My expectations might be higher than others, but I have a good feeling about Kiffen.

70 receptions 1050 yards 8 tds

 
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I think both Raider WR are two very sold buy low WR's for dynasty purposes. You can get both as reserve WR's and IMO one/both will perform as WR3's until Russell takes over. Give Russell a year, and then reap the benefits of the WR tandem again.

This year for Porter: 65 900 6 TD. You'll receive solid #'s until Russell takes over. (week 8?).

 
I do not expect Jerry Porter to do all that well. Despite being around Jerry Rice and Tim Brown, he did not learn the intangible qualities of being a great wide receiver. I have no expectation that he can do it now. He just is not the kind of person to be motivated and focussed every play for a season.

Also, he is going to be covered by Champ Bailey twice a year. Now he is down to 14 games to do something. He does not have the athleticism to beat great corners, just good ones. He is not a great route-runner or ball-catcher. Ronald Curry is superior to him in those two areas. Sure, he can make a leap, and has long arms. He can and will suck up what he has to over the middle.

Basically, Jerry Porter improved for a year or two when he came into the league, and then leveled off. Curry, while about the same age, and with more injuries, has been upping his game every year. If you are a rookie QB with a cannon arm, who are you going to count on to catch your bullets? Porter body-catches so much I expect him to end up in the emergency room with Russell throwing at him.

 
LHUCKS said:
toxicbees said:
but I have a good feeling about Kiffen.
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There's been a lot of buzz on him from objective news sources like ESPN...don't be surprised if the Raiders offense significantly outperforms its projections.
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From the pressers, to the player response, to free agents, to the draft, to the coaches he's hired, to the "I'm in" slogan, to the OTAs, I've been VERY impressed with the kid coach all offseason. We'll have to see how it plays out on the field, but I have a good feeling about him.And with most fantasy owners completely writing off the Raiders this year, there might be some decent value plays on this roster. This is a coach's league, where system can have as much of an impact as talent. People are treating the Raiders as if Art Shell and Tom Walsh are still in charge.When was the last time the Zone Blocking Scheme didn't work in this league? Tom Cable was a stud at UCLA and with the Falcons. Me thinks his presence will bring the OLine back from the depths.This league is all about quick change, yet if you ask most people they'll regurgitate the same teams from last year when guessing who will be top/bottom teams this year.
 
I keep finding reasons not to like Curry, but I'm finally waving the white flag and declaring this guy the #1 WR in OAK. The guy just won't die. You've got to love it.

Last year, Porter didn't play when he was healthy. In the past, Curry would have sold a kidney to be on the field. I just think Curry will demand more respect.

Porter 62-840-6

 
As long as there isn't someone of Gannon's caliber is under center, I think all the Raider WRs are a gamble in a redraft. However, Porter seems to have the best shot based on size, experience, and talent IMHO.

I'll give him 54 - 625 - 5.

 
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I was initially thinking Curry but Porter is going 8th rd plus in a 10 team draft and Curry usually the round after. Not much difference really. You will not have to reach to get a WR1 from a team that looks to be throwing a lot in the 2nd half of their games. Good value either way.

 
Porter was benched most of last year for a reason: the guy has a bad attitude. Also, in seven seasons he has only had three where an injury didn't sideline him for a portion of the season. And, he has never had a great year as WR1 despite being given the opportunity to seize the role. How does having a HC who is fresh out of college help? How does having a rookie QB help?

I predict he will do as well as Moss did last year:

40 for 550 and 3 TDs

 
i have been all over porter in the late 9th rounds in drafts.

too many people in fantasy football have a 1 yesr memory. in 2004 and 2005 porter went for the following:

+--------------------------+-------------------------+ | Rushing | Receiving |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| Year TM | G | Att Yards Y/A TD | Rec Yards Y/R TD |+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+| 2004 oak | 16 | 1 -4 -4.0 0 | 64 998 15.6 9 || 2005 oak | 16 | 1 -8 -8.0 0 | 76 942 12.4 5 |i am projecting slightly less than that at 67 / 889 / 6that puts him around WR 28 and an absolute steal in the 9th.

people are chalking up last year's nightmare as the norm, with a bed and breakfast guy at OC. this is much like the disaster season for NO a couple years back. it was an aberration and with the coaching change and upgraded offense and defense (although the O line is still a concern) this team will improve from last year in terms of fantasy stats.

any time you can get a team's WR1 in the 9th, you do that all day.

 
I love everything I am hearing about the Raiders this year. Are they a playoff team?? Naaa but they are on their way. So many are understimating this teams potential with a coach that knows what he is doing. Porter seems to be doing what a top WR should. That is play and not talk. If people want value here it is. #1 WR in the late rounds. They say the Oline is the issue but if Culpepper can move like he does in preseason I think we can offset that a little. Here is my prediction..

84 1057 10TD's

He will once again be a solid fantasy WR. I will compare him to Coles how he was ignored in drafts last year and boom.. Back on his old team with his old QB... Goes to show you how a WR value can change fast year to year..

 
Took him in the 2nd round of our FA/rookie draft (keep 14). I'll be starting him week 1 vs. Detroit. That's value for essentially a 16th round pick. Even if you're getting him in the 9/10th, the Raiders O will surprise this year. If it weren't for S.D. and Denver in their division, they may push for a playoff spot.

 
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