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Player Spotlight: Michael Clayton (1 Viewer)

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2007 Player Spotlight Series

Over the course of the offseason, we will be evaluating a multitude of players at every fantasy position. One such way we go about that is through the Player Spotlight series. Think of the Spotlights as a permanent record on some of the more intriguing players for the upcoming season. Each Spotlight will be featured in an article on the main website.

Thread Topic: Michael Clayton, WR, Tampa Bay Buccaneers

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I think this ship has sailed. As documented on this board there is hype of other WRs challenging for his spot (Stovall and Boston...lol) and I really jusst think he caught lightning in a bottle his rookie year.

I see him getting 42 receptions for 600 yards and 3 TDs

 
Clayton's fall from grace is baffling. He goes from one of the best rookie WR seasons in history to a complete flop in rapid fashion. Granted, injuries and a bad QB situation have since hurt, but Galloway did just fine with Simms in year 2.

I'm going to let someone else take a chance on him that he gets some of his mojo back.

50-640-4

 
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Pop Quiz: How many receivers are 25 or younger, have a 1,000 yard receiving season to their name, and are currently a starter? Now, how many of those guys are not ranked in the top-60 in FBG's dynasty rankings? Seriously, some of the people he's ranked behind in dynasty leagues just blows my mind. For instance, Troy Williamson- not only does Clayton have better per-game numbers over the last two years, but he also has that 1,000 yard season the year before, to boot.

I really think a lot of people are missing the boat on Clayton in dynasty leagues- in fact, he's currently my choice for most underrated player in Dynasty. If he ever gets healthy, you've got a potential stud on your hand... and if he doesn't, then so what? He's your WR5. There's pretty much no downside, and All-Pro upside. There's no reason at all not to stash him on your roster somewhere and hope for the best.

As for redraft... there are already reports this season that Clayton's still favoring his leg, which isn't a good sign at all. Assuming he can stay healthy, I'll go ahead and project him out to 55/800/5- something of a rebound season. He's got a lot of upside and downside, though. If Galloway's place in the offense is drastically reduced (as I expect) and Clayton's leg concerns wind up being nothing, then we're looking at 80/1100/8. If Clayon's leg injury really is something to worry about, then we're looking more at 40/500/2. A very risky pick, and not someone I'd like to have to start on a weekly basis, but once again, as your WR5 (he's currently projected as WR#51 by FBGs, which makes him a high WR5), what's the downside? If he doesn't pan out, then the Drew Bennetts, Eddie Kennisons, Muhsin Muhammads, and Isaac Bruces of the world will always be available on your waiver wire.

 
Reports are Mo could beat out Clayton for a starting job. If nothing else, it at least shows Clayton doesn't have a death grip on the job (as could also be surmised from his performance last year). I might be biased since Mo and I went to the same high school, but he has incredible work ethic. Even back then he did. Mo's a hard worker and a talented player. I think it's entirely possible Mo takes over at some point during the season if Clayton plays like he did last year.

45/600/3

 
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I think Claytons numbers are too high from some of you. I would be shocked if he was one of the starting wr's week 1.

 
6 receptions, 55 yards, 1 TD......... His highest scoring week of the last two years. I would rather spend that pick on a defense or a kicker .... at least they will contribute to my fantasy team. :thumbup:

 
The Scientist said:
6 receptions, 55 yards, 1 TD......... His highest scoring week of the last two years. I would rather spend that pick on a defense or a kicker .... at least they will contribute to my fantasy team. :confused:
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In his defense, he did have a messed up knee which hindered one of his strengths in route running. If he gets back to a healthy state, he could surprise.
 
The Scientist said:
6 receptions, 55 yards, 1 TD......... His highest scoring week of the last two years. I would rather spend that pick on a defense or a kicker .... at least they will contribute to my fantasy team. :confused:
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Yeah, but if he had 16 of those games his numbers would be:96 receptions880 yards16 TD'sI'll take that all day!!!!!! :confused:
 
As SSOG pointed out, there's very little risk taking him as your WR5 or so. In most leagues he'll fall to one of the bottom rounds or possibly even go undrafted. Obviously I wouldn't take him as my WR1, but in the closing round of the draft, there's not many guys out there with the potential and upside that Clayton has.

 
TheLastDispatch said:
As SSOG pointed out, there's very little risk taking him as your WR5 or so. In most leagues he'll fall to one of the bottom rounds or possibly even go undrafted. Obviously I wouldn't take him as my WR1, but in the closing round of the draft, there's not many guys out there with the potential and upside that Clayton has.
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WR5? You gotta be kidding. One injury, a bye week, and I'm starting Michael Clayton?This guy is a monster bust. Stovall will pass him on the depth chart by preseason game 2.
 
Dhizz said:
TheLastDispatch said:
As SSOG pointed out, there's very little risk taking him as your WR5 or so. In most leagues he'll fall to one of the bottom rounds or possibly even go undrafted. Obviously I wouldn't take him as my WR1, but in the closing round of the draft, there's not many guys out there with the potential and upside that Clayton has.
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WR5? You gotta be kidding. One injury, a bye week, and I'm starting Michael Clayton?This guy is a monster bust. Stovall will pass him on the depth chart by preseason game 2.
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No, one injury, a bye week, and you're picking Isaac Bruce off of waivers and starting him.In a 12-team league, a WR just has to finish in the top-60 to justify a WR5 position. Since you can get guys in the 50-60 range off the street most of the time, there's no reason to carry one of them on your roster. Basically, carry 4 WRs that you actually plan on starting, and then devote the rest of your roster spaces to guys with upside, and if you need another crappy WR that you can start and get 5 points from, grab one off of waivers. Really, a WR that'll get you 5 points every week has very little in the way of value- I'd rather get a WR that will get me 3 points every week with the potential to become a 10-point a week WR.
 
When I consider Michael Clayton, a saying comes back to me from my youth, fool me once, shame on you, but fool me twice, shame on me.

From his awesome rookie season in 04, when he had 116 targets, 80 catches for 1193 yards, averaging 14.9 ypc and scoring 7 TDs, this guy has underperformed in record setting proportions.

As bad as 05 was, when he followed up his rookie year with 32 catches for 372 yards and 0 TDs, his third season was even worse. He caught 33 on 65 targets, right at 50%. He averaged a career low 10.8 ypc and scored 1 TD. Even in ppr scoring, he had only two games in double digit fantasy points. He may not be undraftable, but he is close and he will not be drafted on my team in 07.

Michael Clayton 49 targets 28 catches 285 yards 10.0 ypc and 1 TD

 
SSOG said:
Dhizz said:
TheLastDispatch said:
As SSOG pointed out, there's very little risk taking him as your WR5 or so. In most leagues he'll fall to one of the bottom rounds or possibly even go undrafted. Obviously I wouldn't take him as my WR1, but in the closing round of the draft, there's not many guys out there with the potential and upside that Clayton has.
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WR5? You gotta be kidding. One injury, a bye week, and I'm starting Michael Clayton?This guy is a monster bust. Stovall will pass him on the depth chart by preseason game 2.
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No, one injury, a bye week, and you're picking Isaac Bruce off of waivers and starting him.In a 12-team league, a WR just has to finish in the top-60 to justify a WR5 position. Since you can get guys in the 50-60 range off the street most of the time, there's no reason to carry one of them on your roster. Basically, carry 4 WRs that you actually plan on starting, and then devote the rest of your roster spaces to guys with upside, and if you need another crappy WR that you can start and get 5 points from, grab one off of waivers. Really, a WR that'll get you 5 points every week has very little in the way of value- I'd rather get a WR that will get me 3 points every week with the potential to become a 10-point a week WR.
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:nerd: I agree with your thinking, but that means little to the actual projection. I'd stash him on my bench too, in case I'm wrong (he does have more upside then the majority of WR's in this range)....but I'm seeing 35/450/2.
 
On the plus side of things, you can get him in dynasties for next to nothing.

On the negative side of things, there's a reason you can get him so cheaply.

 
SSOG said:
Dhizz said:
TheLastDispatch said:
As SSOG pointed out, there's very little risk taking him as your WR5 or so. In most leagues he'll fall to one of the bottom rounds or possibly even go undrafted. Obviously I wouldn't take him as my WR1, but in the closing round of the draft, there's not many guys out there with the potential and upside that Clayton has.
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WR5? You gotta be kidding. One injury, a bye week, and I'm starting Michael Clayton?This guy is a monster bust. Stovall will pass him on the depth chart by preseason game 2.
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No, one injury, a bye week, and you're picking Isaac Bruce off of waivers and starting him.In a 12-team league, a WR just has to finish in the top-60 to justify a WR5 position. Since you can get guys in the 50-60 range off the street most of the time, there's no reason to carry one of them on your roster. Basically, carry 4 WRs that you actually plan on starting, and then devote the rest of your roster spaces to guys with upside, and if you need another crappy WR that you can start and get 5 points from, grab one off of waivers. Really, a WR that'll get you 5 points every week has very little in the way of value- I'd rather get a WR that will get me 3 points every week with the potential to become a 10-point a week WR.
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I think the point was Clayton has no upside. He's a bust. Let it go. There is no potential. He's awful.I pick up guys like this off the WW every offseason, let the hype build, hope for a decent game in the preseason then package him off. I've done this with Chris Perry for at least 3 years. The fact this kid has a spotlight is awesome. Were there really 120 WR spotlights? Crazy.
 
teamroc said:
I think the point was Clayton has no upside. He's a bust. Let it go. There is no potential. He's awful.
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:rolleyes: How is there no upside for a 25 y/o who 3 years ago put up 80/1200 in his rookie campaign?The upside/potential, actually, is huge. His value right now? No so much. But still, it's greater than 0.
 
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Chunky Soup said:
teamroc said:
I think the point was Clayton has no upside. He's a bust. Let it go. There is no potential. He's awful.
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:rant: How is there no upside for a 25 y/o who 3 years ago put up 80/1200 in his rookie campaign?The upside/potential, actually, is huge. His value right now? No so much. But still, it's greater than 0.
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:popcorn: As for the teamroc's "let it go" part, it would seem you're the one who needs to "let it go." You're aware the post you're responding to is almost a year old, right?
 
TheLastDispatch said:
Chunky Soup said:
teamroc said:
I think the point was Clayton has no upside. He's a bust. Let it go. There is no potential. He's awful.
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:rant: How is there no upside for a 25 y/o who 3 years ago put up 80/1200 in his rookie campaign?The upside/potential, actually, is huge. His value right now? No so much. But still, it's greater than 0.
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:popcorn: As for the teamroc's "let it go" part, it would seem you're the one who needs to "let it go." You're aware the post you're responding to is almost a year old, right?
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:lmao:
 
I don't see any signs pointing to Clayton being the player he was his rookie year. Maybe it has happened before, but I don't remember a guy falling off the map like he did and making a comeback. Three straight years with only 1 TD doesn't give me much hope for his future. There are better players you can gamble on.

 
Clayton seemed to do well when Galloway was out.

I'm not sure what to think of him now that Bryant has come on board.

I'm thinking of dealing him away in the only league I own him.

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Ron_Mexico said:
Clayton seemed to do well when Galloway was out.I'm not sure what to think of him now that Bryant has come on board.I'm thinking of dealing him away in the only league I own him..
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Really?? You think ou could get something for he at this point?....I own him in two leagues and I will hold on to him til he is no longer in the NFL...because to cut him would mean I was wrong...........
 
Yitbos69 said:
Ron_Mexico said:
Clayton seemed to do well when Galloway was out.I'm not sure what to think of him now that Bryant has come on board.I'm thinking of dealing him away in the only league I own him..
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Really?? You think ou could get something for he at this point?....I own him in two leagues and I will hold on to him til he is no longer in the NFL...because to cut him would mean I was wrong...........
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It's ok. I cut him long ago. You get over it. :rolleyes: Too bad nobody can bump his career as easily as this thread.
 
AnonymousBob said:
On the plus side of things, you can get him in dynasties for next to nothing.On the negative side of things, there's a reason you can get him so cheaply.
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:thumbup: I have the guy on a pure dynasty roster. I'll probably hold onto the guy for a couple of years no matter what his production....
 
I grabbed Clayton in the 41st round of a 43 round dynasty vet draft that allows teams to carry 43 active players and then a DTS of 10ish.

Why not....the guy was the 645th player taken. What player taken that late is anything more than a flier?

 
mightyeskimo said:
Yitbos69 said:
Ron_Mexico said:
Clayton seemed to do well when Galloway was out.I'm not sure what to think of him now that Bryant has come on board.I'm thinking of dealing him away in the only league I own him..
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Really?? You think ou could get something for he at this point?....I own him in two leagues and I will hold on to him til he is no longer in the NFL...because to cut him would mean I was wrong...........
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It's ok. I cut him long ago. You get over it. :lmao: Too bad nobody can bump his career as easily as this thread.
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:unsure: I finally got over the 1000 yard season and cut bait last year. I'm a much happier person now.
 
cstu said:
I don't see any signs pointing to Clayton being the player he was his rookie year. Maybe it has happened before, but I don't remember a guy falling off the map like he did and making a comeback. Three straight years with only 1 TD doesn't give me much hope for his future. There are better players you can gamble on.
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Part of the reason why nobody has fallen off the map like he did and came back is because, quite simply, nobody has fallen off the map like he did. Seriously. Name me one other rookie WR with 1000 yards receiving who failed to crack 500 yards receiving in his second season. There aren't really any precedents for Clayton, because he was SO good as a rookie, and he's been SO bad since. He was overshadowed by Boldin, but he had one of the top 5 seasons by a rookie WR in the past 20 years.About the only comparisons I can think of are Terry Glenn and Joey Galloway. Glenn gained almost as many yards in Year 1 as he did in Years 2 and 3 combined, and he had MORE TDs. He later went on to have a very productive career. Galloway had 4 good years, fell off the planet, and went SIX YEARS before registering another 1,000 yard season. He is currently one of the best "old WRs" in league history. In both cases, injury played a very big role, but some might argue that injury played a big role with Clayton, too. There's really just not a good comp for Clayton out there.Still, I stand by my claim that, as a WR5 or WR6, everyone's a longshot, so you might as well just stash a youngster with upside.
 
Their big play offense might have something to do with it. :rolleyes: They have the most predictable mundane offense possibly of the entire league and have had for years. I don't think we have seen Clayton's true ability.

 
I know it's just OTA's, but I heard he looked very impressive. Didn't drop a single pass, and looked much quicker. Apparently, he is at the same weight that he was drafted at, and is getting more separation.

 
SSOG said:
cstu said:
I don't see any signs pointing to Clayton being the player he was his rookie year. Maybe it has happened before, but I don't remember a guy falling off the map like he did and making a comeback. Three straight years with only 1 TD doesn't give me much hope for his future. There are better players you can gamble on.
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Part of the reason why nobody has fallen off the map like he did and came back is because, quite simply, nobody has fallen off the map like he did. Seriously. Name me one other rookie WR with 1000 yards receiving who failed to crack 500 yards receiving in his second season. There aren't really any precedents for Clayton, because he was SO good as a rookie, and he's been SO bad since. He was overshadowed by Boldin, but he had one of the top 5 seasons by a rookie WR in the past 20 years.About the only comparisons I can think of are Terry Glenn and Joey Galloway. Glenn gained almost as many yards in Year 1 as he did in Years 2 and 3 combined, and he had MORE TDs. He later went on to have a very productive career. Galloway had 4 good years, fell off the planet, and went SIX YEARS before registering another 1,000 yard season. He is currently one of the best "old WRs" in league history. In both cases, injury played a very big role, but some might argue that injury played a big role with Clayton, too. There's really just not a good comp for Clayton out there.

Still, I stand by my claim that, as a WR5 or WR6, everyone's a longshot, so you might as well just stash a youngster with upside.
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How do you miss Terry Glenn in paragraph 1, and mention him in paragraph 2?1132 year 1

432 year 2

:lmao:

 
Bri said:
How do you miss Terry Glenn in paragraph 1, and mention him in paragraph 2?1132 year 1432 year 2 :thumbup:
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Eh, I always mentally give Glenn a bit of a pass because he actually missed time in year 2. His fall off the planet, while the MOST comparable to Clayton's, still isn't really comparable to Clayton's, since he was still on pace over 750 yards in year 2, 1250 yards in year 3, and 1300 yards in year 4. Pretty sad that this is one of the best comps we have at our disposal, here.
 
I think this is it for Clayton. Time to step up or he could be gone next year. I think he plays big this year and surprises.

 
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