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Player Spotlight: Kevin Curtis (1 Viewer)

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Thread Topic: Kevin Curtis, WR, Philadelphia Eagles

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Curtis should be a good fit in Philly, but the Eagles spread it around too much for Curtis to be an impact fantasy player. At best, he's option #4 behind Westbrook, Smith, and Brown. He'll likely be too inconsistent to rely on and will have a very limited ceiling.

55/700/5

 
Macdaddy_2004 said:
Watch out!!!!Everyone is talking about Reggie Brown but I think K-CUR steps into the #1 role this season75/1100/8
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doubt it . . . a) McNabb stated in a recent interview that (due to his health) he hasn't yet had a chance to work with Curtis, so Brown has an advantage there . . .b) Curtis is changing offenses, so he's behind in that department . . .pencil Curtis in for 55/675/4
 
I loved this signing by Philly. I think Curtis is very talented. But despite moving to a pass heavy offense I dont expect huge #s from him. He could be a solid WR4. Simple fact is hes learning a new system on a new team, he is the 4th option in the passing game behind Westbrook, Brown, and Smith, and he plays opposite a TD monster in Brown.

55 rec, 900 yds, 5 tds

 
Macdaddy_2004 said:
Watch out!!!!Everyone is talking about Reggie Brown but I think K-CUR steps into the #1 role this season75/1100/8
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I have to agree with you on this. A telling indicator of how bad Reid wanted Curtis is that while he was on his family sabbatical, he came back to interview and convince Curtis to come aboard. He wanted him real bad. Further, if they thought Brown was the answer then why worry about Curtis so much? Brown and Curtis will make a pretty good team but I will not be surprised to find Curtis near 1000 yards. His deep speed and McNabb's big play ability should yield some nice catches and TD's this year. And with Westbrook and Smith keeping the underneath busy I think Curtis should have some room to work.60-1080-7
 
Family Matters said:
Macdaddy_2004 said:
Watch out!!!!

Everyone is talking about Reggie Brown but I think K-CUR steps into the #1 role this season

75/1100/8
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I have to agree with you on this. A telling indicator of how bad Reid wanted Curtis is that while he was on his family sabbatical, he came back to interview and convince Curtis to come aboard. He wanted him real bad. Further, if they thought Brown was the answer then why worry about Curtis so much? Brown and Curtis will make a pretty good team but I will not be surprised to find Curtis near 1000 yards. His deep speed and McNabb's big play ability should yield some nice catches and TD's this year. And with Westbrook and Smith keeping the underneath busy I think Curtis should have some room to work.60-1080-7
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Cuz their starting WR wouldve been Hank Baskett for gods sake.
 
shadyridr said:
Family Matters said:
Macdaddy_2004 said:
Watch out!!!!

Everyone is talking about Reggie Brown but I think K-CUR steps into the #1 role this season

75/1100/8
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I have to agree with you on this. A telling indicator of how bad Reid wanted Curtis is that while he was on his family sabbatical, he came back to interview and convince Curtis to come aboard. He wanted him real bad. Further, if they thought Brown was the answer then why worry about Curtis so much? Brown and Curtis will make a pretty good team but I will not be surprised to find Curtis near 1000 yards. His deep speed and McNabb's big play ability should yield some nice catches and TD's this year. And with Westbrook and Smith keeping the underneath busy I think Curtis should have some room to work.60-1080-7
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Cuz their starting WR wouldve been Hank Baskett for gods sake.
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Word on the street is that Hank is the next big stud WR. :fro: The reason I said that about Curtis is that there were less expensive options and besides, Reid didn't have to come back for that. Reid coming back in on that says alot about how much he wanted Curtis. If you want someone that bad then you plan to find ways to get him the ball.

 
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50/630/4

I think he's better suited to play a slot role and that by the end of the season he will be. Even if/while he does hold down the #2, I agree he'll be the 4th option behind Brown, Westbrook and Smith.

 
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Was Curtis signed to be the #2 or 3 WR? I'm pretty sure the #2 job is between Baskett and Avant, but I'm not sure. Philly homers, any insight?

 
I am also of the opinion that Curtis can be one of the real sleepers at WR this year. Reid loves to pass, Donovan throws a great deep ball. Donte Stallworth was learning a new system too and he seemed to dominate at times last year. Curtis has the speed to replicate some of the results Stallworth was getting and hopefully not get hurt like Donte.

I am personally targeting him late as my 3 or 4 but feel he really can be a lower eschelon 2 by seasons end.

70 Catches 1050 Yards 7 TD's

 
I think Curtis moved up a spot on the totem pole in the move from STL to PHI. If he can stay healthy I say:

58 rec 960 yards 5 TDs

 
Thurman said:
50/630/4I think he's better suited to play a slot role and that by the end of the season he will be. Even if/while he does hold down the #2, I agree he'll be the 4th option behind Brown, Westbrook and Smith.
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THis is my concern as well. I think he will be productive, but I don't expect the kind of numbers some are projecting. I think 50/700/4 is about right.
 
I think it will be much tougher for him to produce without Holt and Bruce taking the two top DBs off him. Plus he doesn't have a stud WR opposite to even make his life easier. Brown is solid, but right now that is about it. With such a weak WR corp I think all the WRs will have a tough season.

Curtis: 55/650/4

 
I don't see much diference between Curtis' and Brown's #s when it comes to yds and TDs.. Brown might have 15 too 20 more catches...

McNabb is really good at the Long Ball which suits Curtis.

For those that don't think Curtis can be a good #2.. In 2005 when Bruce was hurt and slowed for the season;

Curtis put up 60 catches / 800+ yds / 6 TDs

 
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shadyridr said:
BLOX said:
Was Curtis signed to be the #2 or 3 WR? I'm pretty sure the #2 job is between Baskett and Avant, but I'm not sure. Philly homers, any insight?
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Was this a serious post?
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Yeah, it was. I thought I read that somewhere. Wanted to make sure before I added any input.The way I figure it, as long as McNabb is healthy, the #2 WR will have 3-4 monster games each year.I'd put his numbers at around 55 rec. 700 yards and 6TDs.Although he'd be real inconsistant. Solid bye week filler though.
 
faulkfan said:
I think it will be much tougher for him to produce without Holt and Bruce taking the two top DBs off him. Plus he doesn't have a stud WR opposite to even make his life easier. Brown is solid, but right now that is about it. With such a weak WR corp I think all the WRs will have a tough season.Curtis: 55/650/4
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Curtis carried my team for a stretch in '05 when Bruce was hurt. Granted, Holt on the other side didn't hurt, but solid #s week after week eased the pain of losing T.O. to stupidity. If Stallworth could do well, I'm feeling pretty confident in Curtis making my starting lineup quite a bit this year.
 
BLOX said:
Was Curtis signed to be the #2 or 3 WR? I'm pretty sure the #2 job is between Baskett and Avant, but I'm not sure. Philly homers, any insight?
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Depth chart is like this right nowBrownCurtisBaskettAvantLewisBloomAnd I believe Lewis has a shot at the 4 spot, but right now is projected as behind Avant.I'm kind of confused as to why people keep referring to Curtis as a deep guy who catches long balls. He's never averaged 13.5 yards or more per catch, and averaged just 12 yards per catch last year.
 
TheLastDispatch said:
BLOX said:
Was Curtis signed to be the #2 or 3 WR? I'm pretty sure the #2 job is between Baskett and Avant, but I'm not sure. Philly homers, any insight?
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Depth chart is like this right nowBrownCurtisBaskettAvantLewisBloomAnd I believe Lewis has a shot at the 4 spot, but right now is projected as behind Avant.I'm kind of confused as to why people keep referring to Curtis as a deep guy who catches long balls. He's never averaged 13.5 yards or more per catch, and averaged just 12 yards per catch last year.
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stats alone don't tell you a guy's potential . . . the guy is fast, and shows that speed on go routes . . . playing #3 he ran a lot of underneath stuff . . . when he was #2 when Bruce was hurt in 2005, he ran plenty of deep routes . . .
 
duaneok66 said:
TheLastDispatch said:
BLOX said:
Was Curtis signed to be the #2 or 3 WR? I'm pretty sure the #2 job is between Baskett and Avant, but I'm not sure. Philly homers, any insight?
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Depth chart is like this right nowBrownCurtisBaskettAvantLewisBloomAnd I believe Lewis has a shot at the 4 spot, but right now is projected as behind Avant.I'm kind of confused as to why people keep referring to Curtis as a deep guy who catches long balls. He's never averaged 13.5 yards or more per catch, and averaged just 12 yards per catch last year.
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stats alone don't tell you a guy's potential . . . the guy is fast, and shows that speed on go routes . . . playing #3 he ran a lot of underneath stuff . . . when he was #2 when Bruce was hurt in 2005, he ran plenty of deep routes . . .
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Ask Seattle if he's fast.
 
One thing I personally found surprising given Curtis' size (5'11", 186 pounds) is that he's been a productive red zone player. Looking at his 10 TD catches in the last two years:

2 yards
3 yards
5 yards
6 yards
10 yards
25 yards
26 yards
56 yards
57 yards
83 yardsThat's a lot of in-close TD receptions, clearly he can get the job done at the goal line.

 
Jason Wood said:
One thing I personally found surprising given Curtis' size (5'11", 186 pounds) is that he's been a productive red zone player. Looking at his 10 TD catches in the last two years:

2 yards
3 yards
5 yards
6 yards
10 yards
25 yards
26 yards
56 yards
57 yards
83 yardsThat's a lot of in-close TD receptions, clearly he can get the job done at the goal line.
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Do you think that is because he caused mismatches (slant pass) from the slot inside the 10 yard line?
 
wannabee said:
Jason Wood said:
One thing I personally found surprising given Curtis' size (5'11", 186 pounds) is that he's been a productive red zone player. Looking at his 10 TD catches in the last two years:

2 yards
3 yards
5 yards
6 yards
10 yards
25 yards
26 yards
56 yards
57 yards
83 yardsThat's a lot of in-close TD receptions, clearly he can get the job done at the goal line.
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Do you think that is because he caused mismatches (slant pass) from the slot inside the 10 yard line?
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I think it's a combination of things...the Rams willingness to throw in the red zone, an accurate QB, viable alternatives that demanded more attention from the defense. At the end of the day, results count and Curtis has proven he can be an effective red zone target. Hats off to him. I wouldn't have expected as much before seeing the numbers for myself.
 
I can't see how he'll do any worse than Stallworth did last year, catch wise. With the games that McNabb played the entire game (which was only five), Stallworth went 21-443-3. Over 16 games that projects out to 67-1418-10. I don't see Curtis getting 21 ypc, but I can see him getting that many receptions. If Curtis just ups his ypc to 15, which I think is reasonable as McNabb's deep threat, I see him at 67-1005-8.

 
Kevin Curtis is a reliable receiver that catches the ball. And he has speed. He will be a great fit in the Philadelphia offense. Let's look at his previous stats in St Louis:

03 - rookie year didn't play much

04 - 48 targets 32 catches (66.7%) 421 yds and 2 TDs

05 - 97 targets 60 catches (61.9%) 801 yds and 6 TDs

06 - 56 targets 40 catches (71.4%) 479 yds and 4 TDs

His reception percentage is outstanding (66.0% career). It will go down in Philly because Bulger is accurate and McNabb is not, but his targets will be increased more than enough to make up for the slight decrease. I think that he will rival Brown as McNabb's number one target. I understand that it is sometimes difficult to be productive in the first year in a new system, but the WRs at Philly have had recent success. TO was outstanding in his first year there and Stallworth did pretty well also. Neither one of them is known as a "gym rat" type, but they both relied on their athleticism to make plays. Curtis will undoubtedly work harder than that pair and he has good athleticism as well. I like the chances for Curtis in 07.

Kevin Curtis 95 targets 59 catches (62.1%) for 856 yards (14.5 ypc) and 7 TDs

 
rzrback77 said:
Kevin Curtis is a reliable receiver that catches the ball. And he has speed. He will be a great fit in the Philadelphia offense. Let's look at his previous stats in St Louis:

03 - rookie year didn't play much

04 - 48 targets 32 catches (66.7%) 421 yds and 2 TDs

05 - 97 targets 60 catches (61.9%) 801 yds and 6 TDs

06 - 56 targets 40 catches (71.4%) 479 yds and 4 TDs

His reception percentage is outstanding (66.0% career). It will go down in Philly because Bulger is accurate and McNabb is not, but his targets will be increased more than enough to make up for the slight decrease. I think that he will rival Brown as McNabb's number one target. I understand that it is sometimes difficult to be productive in the first year in a new system, but the WRs at Philly have had recent success. TO was outstanding in his first year there and Stallworth did pretty well also. Neither one of them is known as a "gym rat" type, but they both relied on their athleticism to make plays. Curtis will undoubtedly work harder than that pair and he has good athleticism as well. I like the chances for Curtis in 07.

Kevin Curtis 95 targets 59 catches (62.1%) for 856 yards (14.5 ypc) and 7 TDs
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the part about Mcnabb is incorrect; SSOG has shot this down in several threads . . .
 
duaneok66 said:
rzrback77 said:
Kevin Curtis is a reliable receiver that catches the ball. And he has speed. He will be a great fit in the Philadelphia offense. Let's look at his previous stats in St Louis:

03 - rookie year didn't play much

04 - 48 targets 32 catches (66.7%) 421 yds and 2 TDs

05 - 97 targets 60 catches (61.9%) 801 yds and 6 TDs

06 - 56 targets 40 catches (71.4%) 479 yds and 4 TDs

His reception percentage is outstanding (66.0% career). It will go down in Philly because Bulger is accurate and McNabb is not, but his targets will be increased more than enough to make up for the slight decrease. I think that he will rival Brown as McNabb's number one target. I understand that it is sometimes difficult to be productive in the first year in a new system, but the WRs at Philly have had recent success. TO was outstanding in his first year there and Stallworth did pretty well also. Neither one of them is known as a "gym rat" type, but they both relied on their athleticism to make plays. Curtis will undoubtedly work harder than that pair and he has good athleticism as well. I like the chances for Curtis in 07.

Kevin Curtis 95 targets 59 catches (62.1%) for 856 yards (14.5 ypc) and 7 TDs
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the part about Mcnabb is incorrect; SSOG has shot this down in several threads . . .
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Compared to Bulger, McNabb is inaccurateBulger career 64.4% completion rate

Bulger 06 - 62.9%

Bulger 05 - 66.9%

McNabb career 58.2% completion rate

McNabb 06 - 57.0%

McNabb o5 - 59.1%

 
duaneok66 said:
rzrback77 said:
Kevin Curtis is a reliable receiver that catches the ball. And he has speed. He will be a great fit in the Philadelphia offense. Let's look at his previous stats in St Louis:

03 - rookie year didn't play much

04 - 48 targets 32 catches (66.7%) 421 yds and 2 TDs

05 - 97 targets 60 catches (61.9%) 801 yds and 6 TDs

06 - 56 targets 40 catches (71.4%) 479 yds and 4 TDs

His reception percentage is outstanding (66.0% career). It will go down in Philly because Bulger is accurate and McNabb is not, but his targets will be increased more than enough to make up for the slight decrease. I think that he will rival Brown as McNabb's number one target. I understand that it is sometimes difficult to be productive in the first year in a new system, but the WRs at Philly have had recent success. TO was outstanding in his first year there and Stallworth did pretty well also. Neither one of them is known as a "gym rat" type, but they both relied on their athleticism to make plays. Curtis will undoubtedly work harder than that pair and he has good athleticism as well. I like the chances for Curtis in 07.

Kevin Curtis 95 targets 59 catches (62.1%) for 856 yards (14.5 ypc) and 7 TDs
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the part about Mcnabb is incorrect; SSOG has shot this down in several threads . . .
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As a Philly homer, McNabb does throw a lot of poor passes. Most of his poor passes are at his receiver's feet, but sometimes he overthrows them.
 
rzrback77 said:
Compared to Bulger, McNabb is inaccurateBulger career 64.4% completion rateBulger 06 - 62.9%Bulger 05 - 66.9%McNabb career 58.2% completion rateMcNabb 06 - 57.0%McNabb o5 - 59.1%
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I'm a philly homer... completion rate doesnt tell the whole story... just compare McNabb's receivers to Bulger's... look at their TD-INT ratiosbulger 95TDs, 59INTs or 1.6 TDs per INTmcnabb 152TDs, 72INTs or 2.1 TDs per INTMcNabb can throw a strike when he has to.. its not his fault when it bounces off his WRs chest... and he does throw screen passes into the ground 3 or 4 times a game, but for as many short screens he throws, he NEVER throws the easy interception return for a TD by floating one out there. I think Curtis is going to fit right in to the eagles system, and have a top 30 or maybe even top 20 year... for those who think McNabb and Curtis don't have enough time to work together because McNabb is hurt, stallworth wasn't acquired until a trade at the end of the 06 offseason and that worked out just fine...
 
Wood, you keep saying (here, on the Audible and presumably in the spotlight) that Kevin Curtis "isn't a burner" or "doesn't have sprinter speed". That's just not true - he was clocked at 4.32, which is a pretty great time. The fact that he has a relatively low YPC doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't have speed.

 
Any news on Curtis from camp? I love his value this year in that Philly offense combined with his insanely low ADP.

 
corpcow said:
Wood, you keep saying (here, on the Audible and presumably in the spotlight) that Kevin Curtis "isn't a burner" or "doesn't have sprinter speed". That's just not true - he was clocked at 4.32, which is a pretty great time. The fact that he has a relatively low YPC doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't have speed.
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I think you're right here. I'm a big Rams fan and I often heard Kevin Curtis being refereed to as fastest receiver if not the fastest player on the Rams team over the past few years. The guy can flat out get it down the field. He also has glue like hands and seldom drops a pass. If it’s within reach, Curtis will haul it in. I think he will have a break out year and will end up being McNabb's favorite target after he finds out how reliable this guys is. His size and learning the playbook will be the only thing that can hold him back this year and I don't think learning the play book will be a problem considering he learned Martz's play book just fine. Philly will be happy with the pick up and you will too if you can get this guy late in your draft. I also think Bulger’s accuracy numbers are a bit misleading. I have never thought of him as an accurate passer. However maybe it just seems that way because I got spoiled watching Kurt Warner.
 
How has Curtis's camp been? I saw one preseason game where he ran a couple nice routes and had some decent catchs'. I've read that R. Brown has had trouble holding onto the ball so far this year and with a career reception % around 52% (while Curtis is around 66%) is it a given that Brown ends up the teams #1 wr?

Curtis seems to be a nice late round pick on a team that passes a lot and doesn't have a bonafide #1 wr.

 
Im telling you now, Curtis is, and will be, the #1 receiver on this team. Reggie is nice, but he is not a #1. Curtis is replacing Stallworth. Stallworth was easily the #1 on the Eagles last year. Reggie thrived when Stallworth was out of the lineup.

Its no coincedence that Curtis is getting more looks than Reggie. And he is having a great camp so far.

Reggie is being draft a couple rounds before Curtis. And he shouldnt be.

75/1125 8tds

 
Shermanator said:
Im telling you now, Curtis is, and will be, the #1 receiver on this team. Reggie is nice, but he is not a #1. Curtis is replacing Stallworth. Stallworth was easily the #1 on the Eagles last year. Reggie thrived when Stallworth was out of the lineup. Its no coincedence that Curtis is getting more looks than Reggie. And he is having a great camp so far. Reggie is being draft a couple rounds before Curtis. And he shouldnt be.75/1125 8tds
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I have the same feelings but Curtis has gotten very little play stepping into potentially a very good situation. He's also very cheap at the #38wr in the 9th round. Meanwhile Brown is being drafted at wr21.
 
corpcow said:
Wood, you keep saying (here, on the Audible and presumably in the spotlight) that Kevin Curtis "isn't a burner" or "doesn't have sprinter speed". That's just not true - he was clocked at 4.32, which is a pretty great time. The fact that he has a relatively low YPC doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't have speed.
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Yeah, but... he's white!
 
Cookiemonster said:
corpcow said:
Wood, you keep saying (here, on the Audible and presumably in the spotlight) that Kevin Curtis "isn't a burner" or "doesn't have sprinter speed". That's just not true - he was clocked at 4.32, which is a pretty great time. The fact that he has a relatively low YPC doesn't necessarily mean he doesn't have speed.
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Yeah, but... he's white!
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Curtis is going the best white receiver in a long time.Aside from the laser speed and the glue hands, he is also crazy smart. 48 on the wonderlic--highest among all active players. Ben Watson got a 41, which is also excellent. I noticed in looking up Watson that Kellen Winslow got a 12 :lmao:

I actually do have a pet theory that the wonderlic matters for skill position players. I don't count an average or even below average score against you, but doing well above average for your position is worth paying attention to.

For example, look at the 2004 class. http://www.bendomenech.com/blog/archives/001444.html

Lee Evans (27) was well above the rest of the WR's (next closest was Rashaun Woods at 21).

Michael Turner (35!) and Steven Jackson (28) were way ahead of the other RB's, all of whom were below 20 except for Greg Jones (25). Chris Perry was 20; Kevin Jones was 15.

Tight ends were all over the board, with Watson at 41, Winslow at 12, Troupe probably around the same but unreported, and a bunch of nobodies from 10-35. Cooley was a 32.

The QB's are all pretty high, and I doubt the Wonderlic provides useful differentiation there.

 
zamboni said:
Macdaddy_2004 said:
Macdaddy_2004 said:
Watch out!!!!Everyone is talking about Reggie Brown but I think K-CUR steps into the #1 role this season75/1100/8
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:thumbup:
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Please don't bother bumping chest-beating threads until the season is over. And even then, don't do it.
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:pickle:Noticeably absent after 6/81/0 in the first two weeks, eh?But that said, he's probably still right on with that projection. For the season so far he has 17/302/3 - that would leave 58/798/5 for the rest of the year, or an average of 4.4/61.4/0.38 average for the rest of the season. And I bet that he's going to have a few more quiet games and then have one more explosion just like he always has.The problem is that I'm not willing to take a chance on 3 pts on the off chance he gets another 50 pt game.
 
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