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Priest Holmes may be cleared to practice (1 Viewer)

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There was a report ("breaking story" they called it) Tuesday night on 610 Sports, one of KC's sports talk radio stations, that Priest Holmes is undergoing medical evaluations, and that if he passes one final test on Wednesday the 25th, he will be officially cleared to begin practicing with the Chiefs. Rhonda Moss, the local reporter who broke this story, claims that the Chiefs are planning to use Holmes as a "3rd down back" this season--assuming of course he passes the final medical exam and is cleared to practice.

Obviously, this could be huge news, especially with the reports about LJ holding out. Holmes' presence at the Chiefs camp would at the least hurt LJ's leverage, one would think. Whether Priest can be anything close to the RB he was two years ago remains to be seen, but who knows?

Of course, if he fails the test, all of this will be quickly forgotten.

 
:)

PS: I have him in my dynasty league along with Portis and LT.....if he decides to play and LJ decides to hold out, maybe I should ask the Commish to send me my 1st place check :banned:

 
He's been one medical exam away from playing since 2005. And he has not been able to pass the test. I see nothing new here.

 
Joe T said:
Warpig said:
He's also gonna be 34 years old in October.Stick a fork in him.
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So he is 33 now with very low wear and tear on his legs.If he is cleared, he could be a top sleeper play.
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Holmes is one of 35 RBs to have had 2,000+ touches over his career. I'm not sure I would consider him low wear and tear. As I mentioned already, he's in no different situation than he was two years ago. He has tried for two years to get medical clearance to play and has not been able to do so. I'm certainly not a doctor, but I am wondering what would have changed over almost two full years that would improve his physical condition essentially overnight at this point.I suppose for teams with mega roster space having Holmes won't cost much to have as the last man on the roster, but I highly doubt he'd be able to come back and make a significant contribution.
 
Joe T said:
Warpig said:
He's also gonna be 34 years old in October.Stick a fork in him.
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So he is 33 now with very low wear and tear on his legs.If he is cleared, he could be a top sleeper play.
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If you were in my league. I'd let you make that gamble.P.S.Low wear and tear?Over 1700 carries over 10 years in the league. He had 3 consecutive years of over 300 carries and that's when he fell apart.Granted, 1700 carries over 10 years isn't that much, but that's not counting his receptions where he's taking hits.The type of injury and his age and the fact he's been gone for about 2 years now = :rolleyes:
 
Picking him up and really expecting production is pretty optimistic, but as an end-of-bench flier, with a Johnson holdout looming, you could do worse unless your bench is already stocked solid to the last man. Should Johnson be gone for a few weeks to start the year, you could get lucky and get a few games out of him.

When/if Johnson shows up, Priest gets dumped for the surprise WW player who emerges or a bye week defense or kicker. No biggie.

 
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Per Rotoworld

Priest Holmes-RB- Chiefs Jul. 25 - 1:26 am et According to Scout.com, 610 Sports in Kansas City is reporting that Priest Holmes (neck/spine) will attempt a comeback with the Chiefs.Scout.com confirmed that Holmes will likely try to practice early next week pending a physical. If the 33-year-old does return, it will give the Chiefs even more leverage in their contract dispute with Larry Johnson, though Priest himself remains a weak bet to contribute much, if anything, in 2007.
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Can't find anything about him passing a physical
 
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I can't see Holmes making any kind of impact. The line he used to play behind is gone, a very inexperienced Croyle seems likely to start, he is 34 years old, hasn't played in 2 full years, and last and most important, you have to wonder how a serious neck injury will impact his aggressiveness.

 
Here are all the 34+ old RB that have scored 150 points in a season since 1978 when the season expanded to 16 games:

1 John Riggins 34 281

2 John Riggins 35 212

3 Marcus Allen 36 164

4 Emmitt Smith 35 163

Certainly not a long list.

 
Anthony Borbely said:
I can't see Holmes making any kind of impact. The line he used to play behind is gone, a very inexperienced Croyle seems likely to start, he is 34 years old, hasn't played in 2 full years, and last and most important, you have to wonder how a serious neck injury will impact his aggressiveness.
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Geez AB, what a glass-almost-empty guy! C'mon! They'll trade Johnson for all of GB's 1st day picks, Priest will rumble for 400-2,000-20 and I'll dominate the league where I just dropped Tab Perry to get him!! Or one week into camp he'll decide this ain't fun, get his clubs, hop on a golf cart and ride off into the sunset. :coffee:
 
David Yudkin said:
Here are all the 34+ old RB that have scored 150 points in a season since 1978 when the season expanded to 16 games:1 John Riggins 34 2812 John Riggins 35 2123 Marcus Allen 36 1644 Emmitt Smith 35 163Certainly not a long list.
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I'm curious as to any RBs regardless of age who missed 2 full seasons and had a fantasy impact after.
 
David Yudkin said:
Here are all the 34+ old RB that have scored 150 points in a season since 1978 when the season expanded to 16 games:1 John Riggins 34 2812 John Riggins 35 2123 Marcus Allen 36 1644 Emmitt Smith 35 163Certainly not a long list.
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Also, Priest w/o Roaf, Waters, Shields, Weigman, etc and Brodie Croyle at QB <> John Riggins, Marcus Allen, or Emmitt Smith.He's been out for 2 years with a neck injury. See David Pollack (I know...he broke his neck).
 
David Yudkin said:
Anthony Borbely said:
David Yudkin said:
Here are all the 34+ old RB that have scored 150 points in a season since 1978 when the season expanded to 16 games:1 John Riggins 34 2812 John Riggins 35 2123 Marcus Allen 36 1644 Emmitt Smith 35 163Certainly not a long list.
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I'm curious as to any RBs regardless of age who missed 2 full seasons and had a fantasy impact after.
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Holmes didn't miss two full seasons, though.
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My bad. Change to 1.5 years.
 
David Yudkin said:
Here are all the 34+ old RB that have scored 150 points in a season since 1978 when the season expanded to 16 games:1 John Riggins 34 2812 John Riggins 35 2123 Marcus Allen 36 1644 Emmitt Smith 35 163Certainly not a long list.
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But I don't think anyone would be getting him with that sort of usefulness in mind. This would be an 'if Johnson holds out' play and not much more, or season-long handcuff for the Johnson owner.
 
Anthony Borbely said:
David Yudkin said:
Anthony Borbely said:
David Yudkin said:
Here are all the 34+ old RB that have scored 150 points in a season since 1978 when the season expanded to 16 games:1 John Riggins 34 2812 John Riggins 35 2123 Marcus Allen 36 1644 Emmitt Smith 35 163Certainly not a long list.
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I'm curious as to any RBs regardless of age who missed 2 full seasons and had a fantasy impact after.
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Holmes didn't miss two full seasons, though.
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My bad. Change to 1.5 years.
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Likely too hard to look up. But off the top of my head I'm pretty confident that the list of guys missing that much time and coming back at almost 34 and making big contributions is close to non existent. However, I also would suggest that the list of candidates that even attempted it is equally short.
 
Couch Potato said:
David Yudkin said:
Here are all the 34+ old RB that have scored 150 points in a season since 1978 when the season expanded to 16 games:1 John Riggins 34 2812 John Riggins 35 2123 Marcus Allen 36 1644 Emmitt Smith 35 163Certainly not a long list.
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But I don't think anyone would be getting him with that sort of usefulness in mind. This would be an 'if Johnson holds out' play and not much more, or season-long handcuff for the Johnson owner.
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IMO, throwing Priest into a full time role if LJ holds out would be a recipe for disaster for Priest's already questionable health. He has a month to get into game shape when he hasn't been able to do much for close 21 months.
 
David Yudkin said:
Couch Potato said:
David Yudkin said:
Here are all the 34+ old RB that have scored 150 points in a season since 1978 when the season expanded to 16 games:1 John Riggins 34 2812 John Riggins 35 2123 Marcus Allen 36 1644 Emmitt Smith 35 163Certainly not a long list.
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But I don't think anyone would be getting him with that sort of usefulness in mind. This would be an 'if Johnson holds out' play and not much more, or season-long handcuff for the Johnson owner.
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IMO, throwing Priest into a full time role if LJ holds out would be a recipe for disaster for Priest's already questionable health. He has a month to get into game shape when he hasn't been able to do much for close 21 months.
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There were a few blurbs here and there this offseason that kind of pointed to this possibility. I thought it was a longshot, but Holmes seemed convinced that he could play again if he wanted to. And from the sound of things, he hasn't just been sitting around eating Cheetos. There's still a difference between GAME shape and just being IN shape, but I think that he fully plans on contributing.(I just sent an email to a fellow GM asking him if he was going to not protect LJ now that he's holding out and Priest is back, lol)
 
GroveDiesel said:
David Yudkin said:
Couch Potato said:
David Yudkin said:
Here are all the 34+ old RB that have scored 150 points in a season since 1978 when the season expanded to 16 games:1 John Riggins 34 2812 John Riggins 35 2123 Marcus Allen 36 1644 Emmitt Smith 35 163Certainly not a long list.
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But I don't think anyone would be getting him with that sort of usefulness in mind. This would be an 'if Johnson holds out' play and not much more, or season-long handcuff for the Johnson owner.
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IMO, throwing Priest into a full time role if LJ holds out would be a recipe for disaster for Priest's already questionable health. He has a month to get into game shape when he hasn't been able to do much for close 21 months.
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There were a few blurbs here and there this offseason that kind of pointed to this possibility. I thought it was a longshot, but Holmes seemed convinced that he could play again if he wanted to. And from the sound of things, he hasn't just been sitting around eating Cheetos. There's still a difference between GAME shape and just being IN shape, but I think that he fully plans on contributing.(I just sent an email to a fellow GM asking him if he was going to not protect LJ now that he's holding out and Priest is back, lol)
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As a goofy example, I'm in decent shape and fall in the over 30 RB category with a reduced amount of carries over my NFL career. That doesn't mean I would not be pummelled if I became the Chiefs starting RB.I understand that Holmes is in way better shape than I would be and certainly has taken big hits before, but I'm not sure I see him getting thrown into the fray almost cold turkey.
 
GroveDiesel said:
David Yudkin said:
Couch Potato said:
David Yudkin said:
Here are all the 34+ old RB that have scored 150 points in a season since 1978 when the season expanded to 16 games:1 John Riggins 34 2812 John Riggins 35 2123 Marcus Allen 36 1644 Emmitt Smith 35 163Certainly not a long list.
Click to expand...
But I don't think anyone would be getting him with that sort of usefulness in mind. This would be an 'if Johnson holds out' play and not much more, or season-long handcuff for the Johnson owner.
Click to expand...
IMO, throwing Priest into a full time role if LJ holds out would be a recipe for disaster for Priest's already questionable health. He has a month to get into game shape when he hasn't been able to do much for close 21 months.
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There were a few blurbs here and there this offseason that kind of pointed to this possibility. I thought it was a longshot, but Holmes seemed convinced that he could play again if he wanted to. And from the sound of things, he hasn't just been sitting around eating Cheetos. There's still a difference between GAME shape and just being IN shape, but I think that he fully plans on contributing.(I just sent an email to a fellow GM asking him if he was going to not protect LJ now that he's holding out and Priest is back, lol)
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Grabbing Priest holmes off my dynasty waiver wire is about the same risk as grabbing david boston. Both are long shots but its worth dropping your 2nd kicker for.
 
David Yudkin said:
Couch Potato said:
David Yudkin said:
Here are all the 34+ old RB that have scored 150 points in a season since 1978 when the season expanded to 16 games:1 John Riggins 34 2812 John Riggins 35 2123 Marcus Allen 36 1644 Emmitt Smith 35 163Certainly not a long list.
Click to expand...
But I don't think anyone would be getting him with that sort of usefulness in mind. This would be an 'if Johnson holds out' play and not much more, or season-long handcuff for the Johnson owner.
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IMO, throwing Priest into a full time role if LJ holds out would be a recipe for disaster for Priest's already questionable health. He has a month to get into game shape when he hasn't been able to do much for close 21 months.
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Look Yudkin, let me have my illusion that I've just made a big-time steal off the WW. I told you in another thread yesterday I don't like you disagreeing with me 'cause you're right so damn much, so knock it off! :P At least I'm better lookin' than you... :goodposting:
 
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I am an LJ owner in a dynasty league, and I traded a 4th round rookie draft pick last year for Priest to sit on my roster. With a larger roster size in that league, I am glad I choose to hang on to him.

 
brownhelmets said:
I am an LJ owner in a dynasty league, and I traded a 4th round rookie draft pick last year for Priest to sit on my roster. With a larger roster size in that league, I am glad I choose to hang on to him.
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I know the studs aren't available in round four but that trade doesn't make any sense.
 
Couch Potato said:
At least I'm better lookin' that you... :(
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So's a cactus.Look, I'd rather have Holmes at this point than a third kicker or defense. THe chances of Holmes being an impact player are slim, but his upside at this point is more than likely higher than any other player on the waiver wire.
 
AnonymousBob said:
So...has he officially been cleared to practice?
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I talked to the Sports Editor for the main KC newspaper who indicated that they have not heard anything and they would have it had actually happened. Again, this is not to say that it didn't happen, only that it's not getting reported anywhere as of yet. Still nothing on the news wire either.
 
This is probably all a smoke screen leaked by KC to appear to have an inkling of leverage in the LJ negotiations.

 
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There is supposed to be some sort of announcement this afternoon by the KC brass, but I think since it is being done by Hunt, Peterson, etc that this is just a motivational threat to LJ. Priest is done.....they are simply using him here - and since he is holding them hostage still I see no problem doing this.

Kolby Smith is a MUCH bigger threat for LJ than Priest is.

 
Adam Schefter

Holmes planning on joining Chiefs for camp

(July 25, 2007) -- Unpredictable stories go to training camp along with players. But none can be any more unlikely than this: While Michael Vick will not be at training camp, it now looks as if Priest Holmes will.

Chiefs players are now telling each other that, after nearly two full years away from football to nurse a spinal injury, the 33-year-old Holmes has been given medical clearance to play and he is planning to participate in this summer's training camp.

Running backs Michael Bennett and Larry Johnson, to name two players, are aware of Holmes' plans. Holmes' agent, Todd France, declined comment.

There also are other strong signs pointing to a Holmes comeback. With camp kicking off Friday, Holmes still has yet to inform anyone in the Chiefs organization that he plans to retire. The feeling within the organization now is that he will attempt to resume his career.

If he does, he would be on the field Friday, while the embattled Vick is not.

"Priest is counting on our roster right now as an active player," one Chiefs official said recently.

Nor does it seem as if it will change anytime soon. Holmes' return, if it indeed happens as now is expected, makes sense on a number of levels.
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This is a negotiating ploy. It lets Priest negotiate with the Chiefs to sever ties with him while giving him some money (which he wouldn't get if he retired, if I remember correctly). And it lets the Chiefs negotiate with Larry Johnson by pretending there is competition for his starting spot. That's just my opinion --- it's a bunch of negotiating bullcrap. Nobody has said a word about the pinched or weak spot on Holmes's spinal column suddenly being healed, and about him no longer being one hard hit away from paralysis.

 
David Yudkin said:
Joe T said:
Warpig said:
He's also gonna be 34 years old in October.Stick a fork in him.
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So he is 33 now with very low wear and tear on his legs.If he is cleared, he could be a top sleeper play.
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Holmes is one of 35 RBs to have had 2,000+ touches over his career. I'm not sure I would consider him low wear and tear. As I mentioned already, he's in no different situation than he was two years ago. He has tried for two years to get medical clearance to play and has not been able to do so. I'm certainly not a doctor, but I am wondering what would have changed over almost two full years that would improve his physical condition essentially overnight at this point.I suppose for teams with mega roster space having Holmes won't cost much to have as the last man on the roster, but I highly doubt he'd be able to come back and make a significant contribution.
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He avoided hits well. Thus the low wear and tear comment.
 
fatness said:
Adam Schefter

Holmes planning on joining Chiefs for camp

(July 25, 2007) -- Unpredictable stories go to training camp along with players. But none can be any more unlikely than this: While Michael Vick will not be at training camp, it now looks as if Priest Holmes will.

Chiefs players are now telling each other that, after nearly two full years away from football to nurse a spinal injury, the 33-year-old Holmes has been given medical clearance to play and he is planning to participate in this summer's training camp.

Running backs Michael Bennett and Larry Johnson, to name two players, are aware of Holmes' plans. Holmes' agent, Todd France, declined comment.

There also are other strong signs pointing to a Holmes comeback. With camp kicking off Friday, Holmes still has yet to inform anyone in the Chiefs organization that he plans to retire. The feeling within the organization now is that he will attempt to resume his career.

If he does, he would be on the field Friday, while the embattled Vick is not.

"Priest is counting on our roster right now as an active player," one Chiefs official said recently.

Nor does it seem as if it will change anytime soon. Holmes' return, if it indeed happens as now is expected, makes sense on a number of levels.
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This is a negotiating ploy. It lets Priest negotiate with the Chiefs to sever ties with him while giving him some money (which he wouldn't get if he retired, if I remember correctly). And it lets the Chiefs negotiate with Larry Johnson by pretending there is competition for his starting spot. That's just my opinion --- it's a bunch of negotiating bullcrap. Nobody has said a word about the pinched or weak spot on Holmes's spinal column suddenly being healed, and about him no longer being one hard hit away from paralysis.
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Even if you assume he is all healed up, has he been working out? what kind of shape is he in? He's been out of the game for more than a year and at his age and the position he plays it's not as if you can just jump right back to where you were, especially if you haven't been working out at an NFL level. This is all very convenient from the Chiefs POV.

 
He avoided hits well. Thus the low wear and tear comment.
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I know what you mean, but he was hit hard enough to be sent to the sidelines for the rest of the season in 3 of his last 4 years in the league.
 
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Joe T said:
David Yudkin said:
Joe T said:
Warpig said:
He's also gonna be 34 years old in October.Stick a fork in him.
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So he is 33 now with very low wear and tear on his legs.If he is cleared, he could be a top sleeper play.
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Holmes is one of 35 RBs to have had 2,000+ touches over his career. I'm not sure I would consider him low wear and tear. As I mentioned already, he's in no different situation than he was two years ago. He has tried for two years to get medical clearance to play and has not been able to do so. I'm certainly not a doctor, but I am wondering what would have changed over almost two full years that would improve his physical condition essentially overnight at this point.I suppose for teams with mega roster space having Holmes won't cost much to have as the last man on the roster, but I highly doubt he'd be able to come back and make a significant contribution.
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He avoided hits well. Thus the low wear and tear comment.
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In the end you go down, usually from being hit.Priest is not the type to run out of bounds very often.
 
I don't care how many carries you have or haven't had. If your running back is forty years old but has a low number of carries it doesn't matter. The human body stops healing as quickly as you get older-regardless of the number of carries you have or haven't had.

I can't imagine Priest doing anything remotely useful. With that said, if you're dropping a backup kicker or 7th string receiver then go nuts. However remote his chances of being a fantasy force, his upside is reasonably high.

 
Joe T said:
If he is cleared, he could be a top sleeper play.
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Putting aside the question of his actual value, how could he be considered a sleeper? He's a few years removed from being the biggest star in fantasy football, if there's even a chance of him coming back the story will be all over every web site and TV show. You can't be a sleeper if you're being drafted several rounds early in virtually every league.
 
I will add this tidbit, KC has had success in older RB's. Marcus Allen was productive until he was 36. Allen had 2370 carries before KC signed him in 1993 at the age of 30, and scored 44 additional TDs 1993-97

 
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