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Jauron Sticking To RB By Committee

by Chris Brown, Lead Journalist Last Updated: 7/27/2007 5:40 PM ET

Buffalo's head coach has stated more than once to Buffalobills.com that he's leaning toward a running back by committee approach this season. With all of the final four teams standing last season (New Orleans, Chicago, Indianapolis, New England) profiting greatly from a two-horse offensive backfield, ###### Jauron remains in favor of a group effort for 2007.

"Regardless of who the number one (back) is we do still intend to run the ball by committee," said Jauron. "We think it's better for our team over the long haul."

Jauron has seen the beating that featured backs have taken over his coaching career including the likes of Anthony Thomas who carried a full load for Jauron in Chicago. Buffalo's head man feels that a team good enough to qualify for the playoffs can do more damage if their backfield is still somewhat fresh in January.

"As we get good enough to win consistently and fight our way hopefully into a playoff spot, you want to be healthy at that point in the year," Jauron said. "A guy that gets overburdened carrying the ball constantly at that position will take so many more shots. We'd like to run it by committee and the guy that's the lead (back) will have to earn the right to be the lead."

Most believe the lead back will eventually be top pick Marshawn Lynch. With his elusiveness and superior balance along with his all-purpose skills he's the odds on favorite to land the top role for Buffalo.

"He's very quick, he can make you miss," said Jauron of Lynch after watching him Friday. "He has excellent hands and running the football you can see he can run. Clearly we really liked him as a lot of other people did. We drafted him high in the first round and we anticipate that he's going to be that player. Hopefully he will be, but he has to earn it."

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/news.jsp?NEWS_ID=4982

 
Although I think Lynch will work his role into the main back, this definitely puts a dent into where he should be drafted. Good info Sweetness.

 
You are assuming it will Lynch and ATrain. The article doesn't say that anywhere. It could just as easily be Lynch, Atrain and Wright or Lynch and Wright. They liked Wright enough to draft him in round 4 after taking Lynch in 1.

 
rabidfireweasel said:
You are assuming it will Lynch and ATrain. The article doesn't say that anywhere. It could just as easily be Lynch, Atrain and Wright or Lynch and Wright. They liked Wright enough to draft him in round 4 after taking Lynch in 1.
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:unsure: The title of the thread should be changed, because it makes it sound like Jauron specifically mentioned the RBs by name, and he didn't.
 
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Sure Jauron says all this now but if Anthony Thomas is averaging his usual 3.5 yards per carry and Marshawn Lynch is at a solid 4+ do you really think he's going to keep the ball out of his best rb's hands? I mean Jauron is stupid but he isn't that stupid. Right?

 
The Man with the Plan said:
Sure Jauron says all this now but if Anthony Thomas is averaging his usual 3.5 yards per carry and Marshawn Lynch is at a solid 4+ do you really think he's going to keep the ball out of his best rb's hands? I mean Jauron is stupid but he isn't that stupid. Right?
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No, but maybe he also realizes Lynch never carried a full load in college and is being cautious.
 
i have heard 2 interviews(on NFL radio) over the past few months with Jauron and he has said he likes using 2 RBs.

 
Anthony Borbely said:
The Man with the Plan said:
Sure Jauron says all this now but if Anthony Thomas is averaging his usual 3.5 yards per carry and Marshawn Lynch is at a solid 4+ do you really think he's going to keep the ball out of his best rb's hands? I mean Jauron is stupid but he isn't that stupid. Right?
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No, but maybe he also realizes Lynch never carried a full load in college and is being cautious.
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There's being cautious and then there's being scared. I'm not saying that Lynch needs to get 25 or even 20 carries a game but let's be honest if Lynch plays the way the Bills think he can and Thomas plays the way the Bills know he can there's no way that A-Train is going to put any sort of sizable dent in his numbers. Whatever happens to Lynch this season I can assure you Anthony Thomas' production (or lack thereof) will not have much say in the outcome. If you're a Lynch fan already this should be considered good news. He's going relatively low for a hyped rookie running back in the 4th round. If his ADP falls a little more all the better.
 
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The Man with the Plan said:
Anthony Borbely said:
The Man with the Plan said:
Sure Jauron says all this now but if Anthony Thomas is averaging his usual 3.5 yards per carry and Marshawn Lynch is at a solid 4+ do you really think he's going to keep the ball out of his best rb's hands? I mean Jauron is stupid but he isn't that stupid. Right?
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No, but maybe he also realizes Lynch never carried a full load in college and is being cautious.
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There's being cautious and then there's being scared. I'm not saying that Lynch needs to get 25 or even 20 carries a game but let's be honest if Lynch plays the way the Bills think he can and Thomas plays the way the Bills know he can there's no way that A-Train is going to put any sort of sizable dent in his numbers. Whatever happens to Lynch this season I can assure you Anthony Thomas' production (or lack thereof) will have much say in the outcome. If you're a Lynch fan already this should be considered good news. He's going relatively low for a hyped rookie running back in the 4th round. If his ADP falls a little more all the better.
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Again, the person you should be familiarizing yourself here is Wright. He is big, strong, can catch well enough to play third downs, and could be the short yardage back.
 
rabidfireweasel said:
Again, the person you should be familiarizing yourself here is Wright. He is big, strong, can catch well enough to play third downs, and could be the short yardage back.
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This is what I'm thinking as well. Of course, this is largely speculation on my part, but I see this shaking out as not so much Lynch-AT as it is Lynch-Wright. AT will probably spell Lynch from time to time, but that's not what makes this RBBC. If anybody cuts into Lynch's fantasy value, it's more likely to Wright by getting carries near the goal line.
 
Rockton said:
Politics..The cream will rise to the top.
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My thoughts exactly. He doesn't want to piss off A-Train already.From what I have seen of the first couple days of camp I've seen a lot more of 23 getting the ball from 7. This opposed to 28, who seemed to be in with Edwards more often. (BTW, it also seemed like Edwards was getting more snaps than Nall. It may just be a skewed set of highlights, but that's how it seemed.)
 
I expect Lynch to get a 60% carry load... ATrain/Wright will split the rest.. lookout for ATrain to get the TDs and there won't be many of them for the Bills.

 
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Expected this from day one. Lynch was an RBBC back at Cal, getting about 2/3 of the carries. Jauron knows Thomas, and Wright is a player they clearly like, who is already impressing the Bills by being elusive for a power runner and a better receiver than they expected. Wright is going to surprise a lot of people.

 
fsufan said:
i have heard 2 interviews(on NFL radio) over the past few months with Jauron and he has said he likes using 2 RBs.
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Than why did he only choose to use A-train when Mcgahee got hurt?I think its starts as a RBBC with Lynch getting most of the touches and as the season progresses the cream will rise to the top.
 
is that my "Richard" Jau-ron?

very infintile yes i know but i couldn't resist

 
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menobrown said:
fsufan said:
i have heard 2 interviews(on NFL radio) over the past few months with Jauron and he has said he likes using 2 RBs.
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Than why did he only choose to use A-train when Mcgahee got hurt?I think its starts as a RBBC with Lynch getting most of the touches and as the season progresses the cream will rise to the top.
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probably A Train was his only optionjust telling what i heard, do not care either way, not a Lynch or A train owner
 
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Christo said:
menobrown said:
fsufan said:
i have heard 2 interviews(on NFL radio) over the past few months with Jauron and he has said he likes using 2 RBs.
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Than why did he only choose to use A-train when Mcgahee got hurt?
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You have to consider who else was on the roster at that time.
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Exactly, the choices last year were A Train, Shaud Williams, or Freddy Jackson. Doesn't take an ivy leaguer to pick that one.
 
Sigmund Bloom said:
Expected this from day one. Lynch was an RBBC back at Cal, getting about 2/3 of the carries. Jauron knows Thomas, and Wright is a player they clearly like, who is already impressing the Bills by being elusive for a power runner and a better receiver than they expected. Wright is going to surprise a lot of people.
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Lynch was not an RBBC back at Cal. He got 2/3 of the carries on the season because Cal blew out a lot of opponents, so they rested him. Lynch had 20+ carries in 6 games this past season and 7 games the year before; outside of garbage time, he was a feature back.
 
Anthony Borbely said:
rabidfireweasel said:
You are assuming it will Lynch and ATrain. The article doesn't say that anywhere. It could just as easily be Lynch, Atrain and Wright or Lynch and Wright. They liked Wright enough to draft him in round 4 after taking Lynch in 1.
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:thumbup: The title of the thread should be changed, because it makes it sound like Jauron specifically mentioned the RBs by name, and he didn't.
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It also says "more than once on Buffalobills.com" right away. I figure some research at buffalobills.com is needed to come to the aforementioned conclusion.
 
Bills run alot in their cold weather, when the weather turns cold. It often seems the Bills have two offenses, the cold weather one and the openning day one.

As it gets real cold it'll also be the time that rookies either get tired of the grind of an NFL season or hit the rookie wall, whatever your belief is on that wall theory there. I'm pretty confident they'll be more RBBC late in the season. If all 3 are still around(health wise) there's little doubt in my mind they'd love to take turns pounding them at an opposing D in below zero weather.

I also think pound the RBs, when the CB starts cheating Losman hits Evans, pound the RBs, when the CB starts cheating hit Evans......I also think they would love for their O to be that simple in a power grind it out type classic way.

 
Some of us look for carries to be evenly distributed or proportionally distributed and a coach going with the hot hand throws that whole line of thinking off. There's a "buyer beware" sign on the backs of RBs in RBBC

 
I'm thinking Marshawn Lynch's workload will mirror Joseph Addai's from last season. Steadily increasing throughout the season with the full-time load starting next season.

 
trader jake said:
I'm thinking Marshawn Lynch's workload will mirror Joseph Addai's from last season. Steadily increasing throughout the season with the full-time load starting next season.
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:thumbup: That is a great comparison. The one thing is I don't see the Bills RBs coming close to the production of last years Colt RBs. But for comparing the breakdown of touches, that is a good analogy.
 
CalBear said:
Sigmund Bloom said:
Expected this from day one. Lynch was an RBBC back at Cal, getting about 2/3 of the carries. Jauron knows Thomas, and Wright is a player they clearly like, who is already impressing the Bills by being elusive for a power runner and a better receiver than they expected. Wright is going to surprise a lot of people.
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Lynch was not an RBBC back at Cal. He got 2/3 of the carries on the season because Cal blew out a lot of opponents, so they rested him. Lynch had 20+ carries in 6 games this past season and 7 games the year before; outside of garbage time, he was a feature back.
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Plus, Lynch had two bad ankles all year last year. He also took himself out of a game at halftime that was a blowout so that his backup could get some work. Still, Jauron is very comfortable with Thomas, and so is Losman, especially on 3rd down catching the ball. I think Wright was drafted for special teams and as insurance in case Lynch got hurt or did not sign or wasn't as good as advertised. I'll be surprised if Wright works his way into the RB rotation, but I think Thomas will get a lot of work.
 
Thorpe said:
CalBear said:
Sigmund Bloom said:
Expected this from day one. Lynch was an RBBC back at Cal, getting about 2/3 of the carries. Jauron knows Thomas, and Wright is a player they clearly like, who is already impressing the Bills by being elusive for a power runner and a better receiver than they expected. Wright is going to surprise a lot of people.
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Lynch was not an RBBC back at Cal. He got 2/3 of the carries on the season because Cal blew out a lot of opponents, so they rested him. Lynch had 20+ carries in 6 games this past season and 7 games the year before; outside of garbage time, he was a feature back.
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Plus, Lynch had two bad ankles all year last year. He also took himself out of a game at halftime that was a blowout so that his backup could get some work. Still, Jauron is very comfortable with Thomas, and so is Losman, especially on 3rd down catching the ball. I think Wright was drafted for special teams and as insurance in case Lynch got hurt or did not sign or wasn't as good as advertised. I'll be surprised if Wright works his way into the RB rotation, but I think Thomas will get a lot of work.
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Competely disagree on Wright. The Bills LOVE this guy. Seriously. I hear almost as much gushing over him as I do on Lynch. This is going to be A-Train's last season IMO and next year will be the Lynch and Wright show. Thomas will get his fair share of carries still this year due to the fact that he's a steady veteran that Jauron is comfortable with, but Wright will definitely get a nice number of carries as well.Seriously though, as a Bills fan I couldn't be happier that they seem to have some great depth at RB. But as a fantasy guy, it makes me wary of Lynch's fantasy value because I could see him splitting a decent number of carries with Wright now and into the future because of how much they like Wright.
 
I don't know why this is in the least bit surprising.

People constantly stammered on about how Reggie never showed he could handle a load at USC yada yada yada, but never once mentioned in Lynch's case that his touches throughout his college career were almost an exact replica of Reggie's.

 
FreeBaGeL said:
I don't know why this is in the least bit surprising.People constantly stammered on about how Reggie never showed he could handle a load at USC yada yada yada, but never once mentioned in Lynch's case that his touches throughout his college career were almost an exact replica of Reggie's.
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Bush had 3 games in his college career where he had 20+ carries, and he never had 25 carries. Lynch had 13 games in the two years he was starting where he had 20+ carries, including 4 games with 25+ carries. USC with Bush was RBBC; Cal with Lynch was not. That's not to say that Buffalo won't be RBBC this year, but it is incorrect to say that Cal ran RBBC or that Lynch didn't carry the load.
 
Does this really surprise anyone? Last year it was a pretty good mix of McGahee and ATrain with some Shaud Williams thrown in as a COP. A rook comes in and he's going to get 75%. Not likely. This is what I figured it would be all along.

 
rabidfireweasel said:
You are assuming it will Lynch and ATrain. The article doesn't say that anywhere. It could just as easily be Lynch, Atrain and Wright or Lynch and Wright. They liked Wright enough to draft him in round 4 after taking Lynch in 1.
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Excellent post.Dwayne Wright will be a name many will know real soon.This kid is the total package, and I believe will he will see quite a bit of playing time for the Bolls this season.Anyone who saw him run at Frenso will most likely agree with this.
 
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Not to rain on the Wright parade, but most people i've seen reviewing bills camp have said Wright hasn't done anything to distinguish himself. Lynch on the other hand is clearly showing why he was drafted so high. Granted, I haven't seen any of them play yet, but the reviews i'm getting from various bills message boards suggest marshawn is clearly head and shoulders above both A-Train and Wright.

 
This should last for about two days.

Lynch is easily the most talented back on the roster.

 
CalBear said:
FreeBaGeL said:
I don't know why this is in the least bit surprising.People constantly stammered on about how Reggie never showed he could handle a load at USC yada yada yada, but never once mentioned in Lynch's case that his touches throughout his college career were almost an exact replica of Reggie's.
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Bush had 3 games in his college career where he had 20+ carries, and he never had 25 carries. Lynch had 13 games in the two years he was starting where he had 20+ carries, including 4 games with 25+ carries. USC with Bush was RBBC; Cal with Lynch was not. That's not to say that Buffalo won't be RBBC this year, but it is incorrect to say that Cal ran RBBC or that Lynch didn't carry the load.
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This kind of viewpoint just bewilders me to no end.Carries are carries. Touches are touches. If they have the same amount, who the heck cares where they came from. Getting 80% of a team's 300 touches is hardly different than getting 60% of a team's 400.I can't believe the shortsightedness in this kind of thinking. The guys get the same workload, but one has another all-american RB on his team too so someohow that nearly identical workload means one has shown he can be a feature back and one hasn't?I mean seriously, they're touches are almost identical:Lynch:2006: 223-1356 rushing, 34-328 receiving2005: 196-1246 rushing, 15-125 receiving2004: 71-628 rushing, 19-147 receivingBush:2006: 200-1740 rushing, 37-478 receiving2005: 143-908 rushing, 43-509 receiving2004: 90-521 rushing, 15-314 receivingIn each of their best seasons Lynch had a whopping *23* more carries than Bush. Over the course of their entire college careers (3 years for both) he had a whopping *57* more. Over their ENTIRE careers. And while all touches are not equal, such a small difference in carries is easily balanced out in Bush's additional receptions and punt returns.I just don't get it. Who cares that LenDale had 97 and 219 carries those years whereas Justin Forsett had 119 and 132? Next thing you'll be telling me is that a guy that was the lone RB in a crazy passing offense that only ran the ball 3 times all year has "proven he can handle the workload" because semantically he was closer to the "feature" back than a guy who only ran 60% of a teams 500 running plays and hence was in a 'RBBC' :thumbup:
 
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FreeBaGeL said:
I mean seriously, they're touches are almost identical:Lynch:2006: 223-1356 rushing, 34-328 receiving2005: 196-1246 rushing, 15-125 receiving2004: 71-628 rushing, 19-147 receivingBush:2006: 200-1740 rushing, 37-478 receiving2005: 143-908 rushing, 43-509 receiving2004: 90-521 rushing, 15-314 receivingIn each of their best seasons Lynch had a whopping *23* more carries than Bush. Over the course of their entire college careers (3 years for both) he had a whopping *57* more. Over their ENTIRE careers. And while all touches are not equal, such a small difference in carries is easily balanced out in Bush's additional receptions and punt returns.
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Don't you think it's a lot different to consistently get 20+ carries, except in blowouts, than to always get 10-15 carries, and only get 20 in exceptional situations? Don't you think that the former back carries the load more? Don't you think that a back who gets 25 carries in a close game, and then 6 in a blowout, is more of a feature back than a back who gets 16 in one and 15 in another?But go ahead, ignore the reality.
 
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