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Who are the late-round gems to target in keeper leagues? (1 Viewer)

smcindoe

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(Not sure if this has been discussed already, if so please link me to the thread.)

For those of us who play in keeper leagues where a player's value is based on the round he's selected, late-round picks can be gold. If you get the right guy, you can wind up keeping a stud, or at least a solid starter, at a steep discount for years. The secret is finding the right diamond-in-the-rough players.

I'm thinking of guys who'd meet this criteria:

- Available in the late rounds of a draft (i.e. minimal or no perceived value to start the season)

- Strong possibility of a significant increase in value by this time next year

- Young enough to be worth keeping for several years if they turn out to be a hit

It's not really the same thing as your everyday "sleeper" since you're not as worried about this year -- you're buying a lottery ticket for next year and maybe beyond. Typically you'd look for QB and RBs who start the year as backups but can earn a starting job by next season, either through a promotion or by switching teams. It could also include WRs who signicantly outperform their projected stats.

Some examples from the past:

- MJD and Vince Young last year, as well as Matt Schaub and maybe Brandon Jacobs in smaller leagues

- Willie Parker two years ago, in leagues that drafted before he was named starter

- Chester Taylor in his last year with the Ravens

- Steven Jackson in his rookie year when Faulk was still the undisputed starter

- Larry Johnson during Priest's heyday

- Clinton Portis may be the all-time king of this type of player

Obviously a lot of this depends heavily on the individual league's rules and size (a great keeper pick in a 10-team league may be long-gone in a 16-teamer), but let's see what we can come up with.

Some thoughts to kick it off...

Quarterbacks

This is usually the easiest position to find these types of players in: just look for that year's first round picks, since they rarely start out of the gate but occasionally will take over the #1 job by the end of the year. So Brady Quinn and Jamarcus Russell would go on the list.

What about David Carr? Probably forgotten in most leagues until the late rounds if at all, but a decent chance to take over the starter's job and has some nice weapons available in Carolina.

Beyond that... not sure. I think the ship has already sailed for Aaron Rodgers, even if Favre retired today I don't know that the Packers view him as a long-term solution. Cleo Lemon could fit although Beck makes me wonder.

Running backs

The top rookies like Lynch and Peterson don't qualify since they already have enough value to be taken in the early rounds, and I think Michael Turner is probably too valuable as an LT handcuff to be around in the late rounds. Similar situation for Betts. Mike Bell could qualify but I think most people are wise to the idea of hoarding Denver RBs just in case.

I do think Brandon Jackson would be an excellent pick in smaller leagues if Morency wins the job in GB before your draft. Jerious Norwood comes to mind too but I think the word is already out on him. I do like Chris Henry in Tennessee, though.

Is Justin Fargas worth thinking about here? What about Leon Washington?

Wide receivers

I'm having a hard time coming up with anyone. Calvin Johnson is going too high already. Maybe Dwayne Jarrett? Anthony Gonzalez could shoot up in value if Harrison ever retired. And as crazy as it sounds, if Mike Williams ever got his head on straight... nah.

Anyways, there's a few names to get it started. Who's on your list?

 
As an Eagles homer I can suggest that grabbing Kevn Kolb late may be worthwhile. If not next year likely in two years. James Jones in GB could be a nice one, if he lasts late in your draft. At TE Greg Olsen has a ton of upside and should fall a bit in most drafts.

 
I know these aren't late selections, but I like either of the Dallas RBs. Assuming this duo is not together next year you could end up with an undisputed starter next year. I'm guessing Jones may have more long-term value since MBIII is a RFA, and there's been conjecture he ends up in a backfield with McFadden next year. Seems like too many ifs involved in this to sweat it either way, I'll see where they fall in my start up keep-12 draft and be happy about the potential upside of either one if they're available late enough.

 
I like Kenny Irons (provided he makes it back 100% from injury) and rookie WRs Steve Smith, Laurent Robinson, and Mike Walker. All 3 of those guys are in good situations. They could produce some this year, but look for them to be worth a lot more next year.

 
I was happy to get Jacoby Jones in the last round of my rook draft (3rd round)... Looks like he is already in the mix for a starting spot! :rolleyes:

 
I like Bryant Johnson ARI WR. He was a 1st round pick with size and speed. He never did quite perform like a first rounder, but the Cards drafted Boldin in the 2nd round and Fitzy in the 1st round the following year. He never really got a chance. He is a free agent after this season and will probably start somewhere next year.

 
solwoldjr said:
I like Bryant Johnson ARI WR. He was a 1st round pick with size and speed. He never did quite perform like a first rounder, but the Cards drafted Boldin in the 2nd round and Fitzy in the 1st round the following year. He never really got a chance. He is a free agent after this season and will probably start somewhere next year.
:scared:
 
Santonio Holmes

Brandon Marshall

Dwayne Bowe

These guys to me have WR1 potential and can be had at a WR 3/4 price.

 
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Antother guy who comes to mind is Drew Stanton in Detroit. That's an odd situation where the current QB could lose his job to the rookie at some point in the next year, yet the offense could actually be good enough to make the rookie a useful fantasy piece right away.

 
Two notes: These are players I expect to drop deep in drafts only. if someone is a sleeper but still likely to go say above round 12 in my opinion, they are not on this list. Secondly, they are listed in the order I would draft them top to bottom - today. Tomorrow? hmmm . . .

QB:

Tavaris Jackson
JaMarcus Russell
Drew Stanton
Brady Quinn
Jason Campbell
Brodie CoyleRB:

Michael Bush
Kenny Irons
Lorenzo Booker
Chris HenryWR:

Sydney Rice
Jacoby Jones
Laurent Robinson
Chansi Stuckey
Johnny Lee Higgins
So many others (sighs, how do you tell with young wrs)TE:

Leonard Pope
Marcedes Lewis
 
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If Chris Henry (wr bengals) can ever stay out of jail - I like him..

Michael Turner late in a draft might be a decent shot at RB keeper the following..

Also great posts on B Johnson from ARI, he has filled in nicely during injuries

and

MBIII ran really well at the end of last season and should be a starter

 
nflguru said:
If Chris Henry (wr bengals) can ever stay out of jail - I like him..
Henry is actually an interesting pick... can't have much value at draft time but could come in midway through the year and put up some nice numbers. But is there any chance of him entering next year as anything better than #3 on the Cincy depth chart? Any chance of him moving to another team next year?Phantom Knight, great post.
 
Derek Hagan WR Dolphins

Wes Welker moving creates more room for him, but he is flying under the radar this year due to opportunity (Booker and Chambers ahead of him) and questions at QB.

Next year I expect Beck to have the lead going into camp for the starters job and I would be surprised if the 'Phins have both Booker and Chambers on their roster for another year in '08. Even then, I could see Hagan leapfrogging Booker on the depth chart.

 
Bernard Berrian- Should get a nice FA offer in the off-season, assuming he avoids injury and continues to improve. Get him in a passing offense and he should explode, imo...

 
I think a lot of this depends on your number of keepers. In general, though, I tend to forget about rookie wide recievers. They tend to go pretty high and rarely produce. I try more for the guys who were drafted high last year or two years ago but didn't quite pan out or guys who were/are injured.

Roddy White is a good example of a player who will be drafted well behind many of the rookie WRs this year but is in a better situation and has had a chance to play in the NFL already. I'll probably take a flyer on David Boston as well.

 
Evilhomer3k said:
I think a lot of this depends on your number of keepers. In general, though, I tend to forget about rookie wide recievers. They tend to go pretty high and rarely produce. I try more for the guys who were drafted high last year or two years ago but didn't quite pan out or guys who were/are injured. Roddy White is a good example of a player who will be drafted well behind many of the rookie WRs this year but is in a better situation and has had a chance to play in the NFL already. I'll probably take a flyer on David Boston as well.
Roddy White is definitely on my list as well . . but he is starting to move up the experts rankings and has leapfrogged Jenkins on the few I use. So today he probably falls into the 12th round or later. But I expect that soon to change. And Boston is another great wr to take a flyer on. He should have been on my list. Read an article (sorry, no link) in which he said he had figured things out and was taking care of himself and how he approached the game. It was enough to make me think he is an excellent last round flyer. He has injury issues, but for a wr his age does not have a lot of mileage. Galloway will be older next year than he is this. And I really think TB will be better on offense next year than this (read O-line improved).
 
nflguru said:
If Chris Henry (wr bengals) can ever stay out of jail - I like him..
Henry is actually an interesting pick... can't have much value at draft time but could come in midway through the year and put up some nice numbers. But is there any chance of him entering next year as anything better than #3 on the Cincy depth chart? Any chance of him moving to another team next year?
Henry also should have been on my list. He has demonstrated what he can do - and that is as a #3. He could very well be a nice spot starter for you late this season if none of the "replacements" have claimed his spot authoritatively. And he could very easily be somewhere else next year and slotted as a #2. He has exactly one chance left with the Commish. I for one would be willing to bet he got the message and will clean up his act.
 
smcindoe said:
Antother guy who comes to mind is Drew Stanton in Detroit. That's an odd situation where the current QB could lose his job to the rookie at some point in the next year, yet the offense could actually be good enough to make the rookie a useful fantasy piece right away.
Not as a rookie. Stanton has gone on IR. He had a short term injury so they used it as an excuse to stash him for the year.
 
The guy I am looking at is Roy Hall (WR, Colts). He has great size, sub 4.4 speed, and has shown some promise in camp. I dont think he will do much this year but as Harrison gets older and Wayne moves up to the #1 spot, Hall could be a great keeper that will cost you one of your last draft picks.

 
Majority of these guys you can get for scraps right now.

QB-

Kyle Boller

RB:

Leon Washington

Mewelde Moore

Chris Perry

WR:

Mike Walker

Bryant Johnson

Patrick Crayton

TE:

Heath Miller

 
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