What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Yahoo autodraft thread 2007 (1 Viewer)

Doug Drinen

Doug Drinen

Moderator
I'm, uh, helping a friend with a Yahoo autodraft.

A search turned up this thread from preseason 2006 with lots of good info about Yahoo's autopicking algorithm and how to take advantage of it. I was wondering if anyone can confirm or deny that the basic information in that thread is still correct for 2007.

In particular, does the autopicker still take all starters before taking any backups?

Please don't make me set up a whole league, build 12 distinct pre-rank lists, and run a pretend draft. Cause that's what I'm going to have to do if no kind soul chimes in with the info :football:

Thanks in advance.

 
Doug Drinen said:
I'm, uh, helping a friend with a Yahoo autodraft.

A search turned up this thread from preseason 2006 with lots of good info about Yahoo's autopicking algorithm and how to take advantage of it. I was wondering if anyone can confirm or deny that the basic information in that thread is still correct for 2007.

In particular, does the autopicker still take all starters before taking any backups?

Please don't make me set up a whole league, build 12 distinct pre-rank lists, and run a pretend draft. Cause that's what I'm going to have to do if no kind soul chimes in with the info :unsure:

Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Yes. Starters before backups and moving all your defenses and kickers off the list should get you an advantage IF they don't add a new kicker in between when you submit the list and they do the actual draft.
 
Billy1x said:
Doug Drinen said:
I'm, uh, helping a friend with a Yahoo autodraft.

A search turned up this thread from preseason 2006 with lots of good info about Yahoo's autopicking algorithm and how to take advantage of it. I was wondering if anyone can confirm or deny that the basic information in that thread is still correct for 2007.

In particular, does the autopicker still take all starters before taking any backups?

Please don't make me set up a whole league, build 12 distinct pre-rank lists, and run a pretend draft. Cause that's what I'm going to have to do if no kind soul chimes in with the info :popcorn:

Thanks in advance.
Click to expand...
Yes. Starters before backups and moving all your defenses and kickers off the list should get you an advantage IF they don't add a new kicker in between when you submit the list and they do the actual draft.
Click to expand...
This happened to me last year. I think I drafted Hayden Epstein or some other joker when I could have had Stover.
 
God I hate autodraft leagues. I'm in one every year with buddies of mine who started this free league years ago and never moved on to real leagues. So far, I've won it 4 times and finished 2nd once in the last 5 years without even drafting. It's amazing how good at this game you get when you hang out here. My team always annoys me every year after the draft though, until I pull 6-7 trades to get it looking the way I want it to.

 
does anyone know how long it usually takes for it to run the autodraft once you set your rankings?

 
gorf said:
does anyone know how long it usually takes for it to run the autodraft once you set your rankings?
Click to expand...
From the rules:
Autopick drafts don't run at a scheduled time and cannot be viewed in-progress by league members. In a Custom League, autopick drafts are generally processed from 1 to 48 hours after the commissioner sets the draft status to "Ready."
Click to expand...
I too am waiting for an autopick draft to run (yes, I set up the fake league :shrug: ). In the mean time, I found some documentation of the autopicker:http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/football/drafts/

It confirms most everything that was written in the thread linked in the original post.

 
Lehigh98 said:
Anyone know what rules ESPN uses for Autodrafting or Autopick in a live draft?
Click to expand...
seriously, they don't seem to have any. the new application this year may be different but, in baseball and football, i've seen people end up with three players in a row at the same position. unlike yahoo, they don't seem to worry about filling starters first - or even giving you someone at each position. if you can't be at your draft, mix up your rankings, i.e. instead of listing 5 TEs, then 5 Ds, do TE,D,TE,D, etc. Two years ago, our live draft got converted last minute to an autodraft because they had capacity issues. I ended up with 3 TEs (had them ranked in a row) and Eli as my only QB -- and I had him as QB 20+
 
I like to play one Yahoo autodraft a year just to help take the emotion or more accurately, the heartstrings out of the equation. Following a hybrid of the various threads linked to Doug's initial posting including Todd Conrad's great 2005 article linked by Pasquino I set up my pre-draft for a ten team as follows:

1) Top 50 - VBD

2) Player #51 begins all RBs not in my top 50 VBD up to 40 total RBs ranked

3) After 40 TOTAL RBs ranked begin ranking ALL WRs not in VBD 50 up to 50 TOTAL WRs ranked

4) After 50 TOTAL WRs ranked begin ranking ALL QBs not in VDB 50 up to 20 TOTAL QBs ranked - Move all remaining QBs to EXCLUDE list.

5) After 20 TOTAL QBs ranked and all remaining QBs are excluded, rank up to TEN total TEs including those in your VBD 50. Move all remaining TEs to EXCLUDE list.

6) After 10 TOTAL TEs ranked and all remaining TEs are excluded, rank your top 10 TOTAL PKs and EXCLUDE all remaining PKs.

7) After 10 TOTAL PKs ranked and all remaining PKs are excluded, rank your top 10 TOTAL Team DEF/ST and EXCLUDE all remaining Team DEF/STs.

Don't overlook the value and/or the extra work invloved in that Exclude function; that seems to be a key to a successful draft. In addition to removing frivolous players from your draft eligibility pool, use it to remove guys you simply don't want to deal with this season. I moved anyone on my personal fringe list to Exclude as well. I.E. I don't want to deal with the Kevin Jones-Tatum Bell situation - GONE; I'm not keen on the Portis-Betts thing - GONE; Fred Taylor in a ten team autodraft? No thanks - GONE. I don't care about CLE QBs - GONE...you get my drift.

I set my status to Ready and in about 36 hours returned the following roster:

QBs: Roethlisberger, Delhomme

RBs: LT2, McGahee, Norwood

WRs: Owens, L. Evans, J. Walk, S. Holmes, Horn

TEs: V. Davis, D. Graham

PKs: Elam, Kasay

DEF: Denver

That's about as good a team as one can hope to yoke out of a Yahoo autodraft in my opinion. Certainly one of the better ones I've seen. I got my top to upper ranked players at most positions except QB which I pushed down my list to begin with as I personally like Ben to have a nice season, and with these other skill players I don't need a dominant QB. There is tons of talent left in free agency which I can pound when waivers clear and dump Graham, Horny and Kasay to add a little depth.

Notice too that I did not get pinned with a spare DEF, which the autodraft algorithm is supposed to select. By excluding those DEF/STs outside of my top-10, I gave the algorithm no option but to skip over the 2nd Team DEF/ST. I got burned by the algorithm at PK because I selected a PK (likely Kasay) in my top-10 that was not drafted in the top-10 players (min) at the position. I might suggest only ranking 5-7 PKs and obvious ones at that and excluding even more.

All in all, a very solid draft and again, the best I've managed in this format.

U

 
Last edited by a moderator:
gorf said:
does anyone know how long it usually takes for it to run the autodraft once you set your rankings?
Click to expand...
in case this is a question anyone else has in the future, it ran my autodraft about 10 hours after i set it to ready.
 
The_U said:
Don't overlook the value and/or the extra work invloved in that Exclude function; that seems to be a key to a successful draft.
Click to expand...
Totally 100% agree with this. This is an important part to keeping trash off your roster and to prevent getting extra kickers, def and te's. Nice writeup U.
 
I set mine up last year to select a RB in the first round, a WR in the second and third round, QB/TE/PK/DST in rounds four through seven, then my third WR in the eighth and my second RB in the ninth. Because every team had to draft starters at every position before grabbing backups, I knew I could get no worse than WR36 in the eighth and RB24 in the ninth. I was getting about the same value in the last round that other teams were spending second and third round picks on. Waiting on those two positions allowed me to pick starters at the other positions a round or two ahead of the rest of my league, at almost no cost.

 
wildbill said:
I set mine up last year to select a RB in the first round, a WR in the second and third round, QB/TE/PK/DST in rounds four through seven, then my third WR in the eighth and my second RB in the ninth. Because every team had to draft starters at every position before grabbing backups, I knew I could get no worse than WR36 in the eighth and RB24 in the ninth. I was getting about the same value in the last round that other teams were spending second and third round picks on. Waiting on those two positions allowed me to pick starters at the other positions a round or two ahead of the rest of my league, at almost no cost.
Click to expand...
Where do you do this in a Yahoo league?
 
CrossEyed said:
wildbill said:
I set mine up last year to select a RB in the first round, a WR in the second and third round, QB/TE/PK/DST in rounds four through seven, then my third WR in the eighth and my second RB in the ninth. Because every team had to draft starters at every position before grabbing backups, I knew I could get no worse than WR36 in the eighth and RB24 in the ninth. I was getting about the same value in the last round that other teams were spending second and third round picks on. Waiting on those two positions allowed me to pick starters at the other positions a round or two ahead of the rest of my league, at almost no cost.
Click to expand...
Where do you do this in a Yahoo league?
Click to expand...
I adjusted my pre-draft rankings. Everyone else would have their top 24 RBs listed near the top of their rankings. I was drafting sixth or seventh, so I only listed six or seven RBs at the top of my list, knowing that I'd get one in the first round, and then I'd fill out the rest of my starting positions before taking my second RB.I just looked back over last year's draft. I took the 24th RB (Chester Taylor) in the ninth round. The 23rd RB (Jamal Lewis) was taken in the fifth round.Of course, this only works in an auto-draft league.
 
wildbill said:
CrossEyed said:
wildbill said:
I set mine up last year to select a RB in the first round, a WR in the second and third round, QB/TE/PK/DST in rounds four through seven, then my third WR in the eighth and my second RB in the ninth. Because every team had to draft starters at every position before grabbing backups, I knew I could get no worse than WR36 in the eighth and RB24 in the ninth. I was getting about the same value in the last round that other teams were spending second and third round picks on. Waiting on those two positions allowed me to pick starters at the other positions a round or two ahead of the rest of my league, at almost no cost.
Click to expand...
Where do you do this in a Yahoo league?
Click to expand...
I adjusted my pre-draft rankings. Everyone else would have their top 24 RBs listed near the top of their rankings. I was drafting sixth or seventh, so I only listed six or seven RBs at the top of my list, knowing that I'd get one in the first round, and then I'd fill out the rest of my starting positions before taking my second RB.I just looked back over last year's draft. I took the 24th RB (Chester Taylor) in the ninth round. The 23rd RB (Jamal Lewis) was taken in the fifth round.Of course, this only works in an auto-draft league.
Click to expand...
So what you are saying is break your pre-draft rankings down by position? If I pick 10th, list 10 RBs, then 10 WRs, then 10 QBs, 10 TEs, etc?
 
CrossEyed said:
wildbill said:
CrossEyed said:
wildbill said:
I set mine up last year to select a RB in the first round, a WR in the second and third round, QB/TE/PK/DST in rounds four through seven, then my third WR in the eighth and my second RB in the ninth. Because every team had to draft starters at every position before grabbing backups, I knew I could get no worse than WR36 in the eighth and RB24 in the ninth. I was getting about the same value in the last round that other teams were spending second and third round picks on. Waiting on those two positions allowed me to pick starters at the other positions a round or two ahead of the rest of my league, at almost no cost.
Click to expand...
Where do you do this in a Yahoo league?
Click to expand...
I adjusted my pre-draft rankings. Everyone else would have their top 24 RBs listed near the top of their rankings. I was drafting sixth or seventh, so I only listed six or seven RBs at the top of my list, knowing that I'd get one in the first round, and then I'd fill out the rest of my starting positions before taking my second RB.I just looked back over last year's draft. I took the 24th RB (Chester Taylor) in the ninth round. The 23rd RB (Jamal Lewis) was taken in the fifth round.Of course, this only works in an auto-draft league.
Click to expand...
So what you are saying is break your pre-draft rankings down by position? If I pick 10th, list 10 RBs, then 10 WRs, then 10 QBs, 10 TEs, etc?
Click to expand...
Something like that. It's tough to predict which players/positions the other teams will select in each round, but you'll know how many starters there are at each position, and you'll know that's how many will be selected by the end of round nine.
 
The_U said:
I like to play one Yahoo autodraft a year just to help take the emotion or more accurately, the heartstrings out of the equation. Following a hybrid of the various threads linked to Doug's initial posting including Todd Conrad's great 2005 article linked by Pasquino I set up my pre-draft for a ten team as follows:

1) Top 50 - VBD

2) Player #51 begins all RBs not in my top 50 VBD up to 40 total RBs ranked

3) After 40 TOTAL RBs ranked begin ranking ALL WRs not in VBD 50 up to 50 TOTAL WRs ranked

4) After 50 TOTAL WRs ranked begin ranking ALL QBs not in VDB 50 up to 20 TOTAL QBs ranked - Move all remaining QBs to EXCLUDE list.

5) After 20 TOTAL QBs ranked and all remaining QBs are excluded, rank up to TEN total TEs including those in your VBD 50. Move all remaining TEs to EXCLUDE list.

6) After 10 TOTAL TEs ranked and all remaining TEs are excluded, rank your top 10 TOTAL PKs and EXCLUDE all remaining PKs.

7) After 10 TOTAL PKs ranked and all remaining PKs are excluded, rank your top 10 TOTAL Team DEF/ST and EXCLUDE all remaining Team DEF/STs.

Don't overlook the value and/or the extra work invloved in that Exclude function; that seems to be a key to a successful draft. In addition to removing frivolous players from your draft eligibility pool, use it to remove guys you simply don't want to deal with this season. I moved anyone on my personal fringe list to Exclude as well. I.E. I don't want to deal with the Kevin Jones-Tatum Bell situation - GONE; I'm not keen on the Portis-Betts thing - GONE; Fred Taylor in a ten team autodraft? No thanks - GONE. I don't care about CLE QBs - GONE...you get my drift.

I set my status to Ready and in about 36 hours returned the following roster:

QBs: Roethlisberger, Delhomme

RBs: LT2, McGahee, Norwood

WRs: Owens, L. Evans, J. Walk, S. Holmes, Horn

TEs: V. Davis, D. Graham

PKs: Elam, Kasay

DEF: Denver

That's about as good a team as one can hope to yoke out of a Yahoo autodraft in my opinion. Certainly one of the better ones I've seen. I got my top to upper ranked players at most positions except QB which I pushed down my list to begin with as I personally like Ben to have a nice season, and with these other skill players I don't need a dominant QB. There is tons of talent left in free agency which I can pound when waivers clear and dump Graham, Horny and Kasay to add a little depth.

Notice too that I did not get pinned with a spare DEF, which the autodraft algorithm is supposed to select. By excluding those DEF/STs outside of my top-10, I gave the algorithm no option but to skip over the 2nd Team DEF/ST. I got burned by the algorithm at PK because I selected a PK (likely Kasay) in my top-10 that was not drafted in the top-10 players (min) at the position. I might suggest only ranking 5-7 PKs and obvious ones at that and excluding even more.

All in all, a very solid draft and again, the best I've managed in this format.

U
Click to expand...
one of my league we had our auto draft last night(Yahoo) The_U I took your advice hear my team. We start 1qb 2rb,2wr, 1w/t 1TE, 1K, 1Def . Am pretty happy I don"t like Ben Troupe TE

1. (7) Larry Johnson RB

2. (14) Chad Johnson WR

3. (27) Brian Westbrook RB

4. (34) Javon Walker WR

5. (47) Baltimore DEF

6. (54) Vince Young QB

7. (67) Braylon Edwards WR

8. (74) Jason Witten TE

9. (87) Stephen Gostkowski K

10. (94) Carnell Williams RB

11. (107) Mark Clayton WR

12. (114) Santonio Holmes WR

13. (127) Alex Smith QB

14. (134) Matt Stover K

15. (147) Ben Troupe TE

 
Last edited by a moderator:
The_U said:
I like to play one Yahoo autodraft a year just to help take the emotion or more accurately, the heartstrings out of the equation. Following a hybrid of the various threads linked to Doug's initial posting including Todd Conrad's great 2005 article linked by Pasquino I set up my pre-draft for a ten team as follows:1) Top 50 - VBD2) Player #51 begins all RBs not in my top 50 VBD up to 40 total RBs ranked3) After 40 TOTAL RBs ranked begin ranking ALL WRs not in VBD 50 up to 50 TOTAL WRs ranked4) After 50 TOTAL WRs ranked begin ranking ALL QBs not in VDB 50 up to 20 TOTAL QBs ranked - Move all remaining QBs to EXCLUDE list.5) After 20 TOTAL QBs ranked and all remaining QBs are excluded, rank up to TEN total TEs including those in your VBD 50. Move all remaining TEs to EXCLUDE list.6) After 10 TOTAL TEs ranked and all remaining TEs are excluded, rank your top 10 TOTAL PKs and EXCLUDE all remaining PKs.7) After 10 TOTAL PKs ranked and all remaining PKs are excluded, rank your top 10 TOTAL Team DEF/ST and EXCLUDE all remaining Team DEF/STs.Don't overlook the value and/or the extra work invloved in that Exclude function; that seems to be a key to a successful draft. In addition to removing frivolous players from your draft eligibility pool, use it to remove guys you simply don't want to deal with this season. I moved anyone on my personal fringe list to Exclude as well. I.E. I don't want to deal with the Kevin Jones-Tatum Bell situation - GONE; I'm not keen on the Portis-Betts thing - GONE; Fred Taylor in a ten team autodraft? No thanks - GONE. I don't care about CLE QBs - GONE...you get my drift.I set my status to Ready and in about 36 hours returned the following roster:QBs: Roethlisberger, DelhommeRBs: LT2, McGahee, NorwoodWRs: Owens, L. Evans, J. Walk, S. Holmes, HornTEs: V. Davis, D. GrahamPKs: Elam, KasayDEF: DenverThat's about as good a team as one can hope to yoke out of a Yahoo autodraft in my opinion. Certainly one of the better ones I've seen. I got my top to upper ranked players at most positions except QB which I pushed down my list to begin with as I personally like Ben to have a nice season, and with these other skill players I don't need a dominant QB. There is tons of talent left in free agency which I can pound when waivers clear and dump Graham, Horny and Kasay to add a little depth.Notice too that I did not get pinned with a spare DEF, which the autodraft algorithm is supposed to select. By excluding those DEF/STs outside of my top-10, I gave the algorithm no option but to skip over the 2nd Team DEF/ST. I got burned by the algorithm at PK because I selected a PK (likely Kasay) in my top-10 that was not drafted in the top-10 players (min) at the position. I might suggest only ranking 5-7 PKs and obvious ones at that and excluding even more. All in all, a very solid draft and again, the best I've managed in this format.U
Click to expand...
Would you exclude less in a 16-team league?
 
Leo2228 said:
The_U said:
I like to play one Yahoo autodraft a year just to help take the emotion or more accurately, the heartstrings out of the equation. Following a hybrid of the various threads linked to Doug's initial posting including Todd Conrad's great 2005 article linked by Pasquino I set up my pre-draft for a ten team as follows:

1) Top 50 - VBD

2) Player #51 begins all RBs not in my top 50 VBD up to 40 total RBs ranked

3) After 40 TOTAL RBs ranked begin ranking ALL WRs not in VBD 50 up to 50 TOTAL WRs ranked

4) After 50 TOTAL WRs ranked begin ranking ALL QBs not in VDB 50 up to 20 TOTAL QBs ranked - Move all remaining QBs to EXCLUDE list.

5) After 20 TOTAL QBs ranked and all remaining QBs are excluded, rank up to TEN total TEs including those in your VBD 50. Move all remaining TEs to EXCLUDE list.

6) After 10 TOTAL TEs ranked and all remaining TEs are excluded, rank your top 10 TOTAL PKs and EXCLUDE all remaining PKs.

7) After 10 TOTAL PKs ranked and all remaining PKs are excluded, rank your top 10 TOTAL Team DEF/ST and EXCLUDE all remaining Team DEF/STs.

Don't overlook the value and/or the extra work invloved in that Exclude function; that seems to be a key to a successful draft. In addition to removing frivolous players from your draft eligibility pool, use it to remove guys you simply don't want to deal with this season. I moved anyone on my personal fringe list to Exclude as well. I.E. I don't want to deal with the Kevin Jones-Tatum Bell situation - GONE; I'm not keen on the Portis-Betts thing - GONE; Fred Taylor in a ten team autodraft? No thanks - GONE. I don't care about CLE QBs - GONE...you get my drift.

I set my status to Ready and in about 36 hours returned the following roster:

QBs: Roethlisberger, Delhomme

RBs: LT2, McGahee, Norwood

WRs: Owens, L. Evans, J. Walk, S. Holmes, Horn

TEs: V. Davis, D. Graham

PKs: Elam, Kasay

DEF: Denver

That's about as good a team as one can hope to yoke out of a Yahoo autodraft in my opinion. Certainly one of the better ones I've seen. I got my top to upper ranked players at most positions except QB which I pushed down my list to begin with as I personally like Ben to have a nice season, and with these other skill players I don't need a dominant QB. There is tons of talent left in free agency which I can pound when waivers clear and dump Graham, Horny and Kasay to add a little depth.

Notice too that I did not get pinned with a spare DEF, which the autodraft algorithm is supposed to select. By excluding those DEF/STs outside of my top-10, I gave the algorithm no option but to skip over the 2nd Team DEF/ST. I got burned by the algorithm at PK because I selected a PK (likely Kasay) in my top-10 that was not drafted in the top-10 players (min) at the position. I might suggest only ranking 5-7 PKs and obvious ones at that and excluding even more.

All in all, a very solid draft and again, the best I've managed in this format.

U
Click to expand...
one of my league we had our auto draft last night(Yahoo) The_U I took your advice hear my team. We start 1qb 2rb,2wr, 1w/t 1TE, 1K, 1Def . Am pretty happy I don"t like Ben Troupe TE

1. (7) Larry Johnson RB

2. (14) Chad Johnson WR

3. (27) Brian Westbrook RB

4. (34) Javon Walker WR

5. (47) Baltimore DEF

6. (54) Vince Young QB

7. (67) Braylon Edwards WR

8. (74) Jason Witten TE

9. (87) Stephen Gostkowski K

10. (94) Carnell Williams RB

11. (107) Mark Clayton WR

12. (114) Santonio Holmes WR

13. (127) Alex Smith QB

14. (134) Matt Stover K

15. (147) Ben Troupe TE
Click to expand...
That's an awesome team man. Nice work!
 
Last edited by a moderator:
CrossEyed said:
The_U said:
I like to play one Yahoo autodraft a year just to help take the emotion or more accurately, the heartstrings out of the equation. Following a hybrid of the various threads linked to Doug's initial posting including Todd Conrad's great 2005 article linked by Pasquino I set up my pre-draft for a ten team as follows:1) Top 50 - VBD2) Player #51 begins all RBs not in my top 50 VBD up to 40 total RBs ranked3) After 40 TOTAL RBs ranked begin ranking ALL WRs not in VBD 50 up to 50 TOTAL WRs ranked4) After 50 TOTAL WRs ranked begin ranking ALL QBs not in VDB 50 up to 20 TOTAL QBs ranked - Move all remaining QBs to EXCLUDE list.5) After 20 TOTAL QBs ranked and all remaining QBs are excluded, rank up to TEN total TEs including those in your VBD 50. Move all remaining TEs to EXCLUDE list.6) After 10 TOTAL TEs ranked and all remaining TEs are excluded, rank your top 10 TOTAL PKs and EXCLUDE all remaining PKs.7) After 10 TOTAL PKs ranked and all remaining PKs are excluded, rank your top 10 TOTAL Team DEF/ST and EXCLUDE all remaining Team DEF/STs.Don't overlook the value and/or the extra work invloved in that Exclude function; that seems to be a key to a successful draft. In addition to removing frivolous players from your draft eligibility pool, use it to remove guys you simply don't want to deal with this season. I moved anyone on my personal fringe list to Exclude as well. I.E. I don't want to deal with the Kevin Jones-Tatum Bell situation - GONE; I'm not keen on the Portis-Betts thing - GONE; Fred Taylor in a ten team autodraft? No thanks - GONE. I don't care about CLE QBs - GONE...you get my drift.I set my status to Ready and in about 36 hours returned the following roster:QBs: Roethlisberger, DelhommeRBs: LT2, McGahee, NorwoodWRs: Owens, L. Evans, J. Walk, S. Holmes, HornTEs: V. Davis, D. GrahamPKs: Elam, KasayDEF: DenverThat's about as good a team as one can hope to yoke out of a Yahoo autodraft in my opinion. Certainly one of the better ones I've seen. I got my top to upper ranked players at most positions except QB which I pushed down my list to begin with as I personally like Ben to have a nice season, and with these other skill players I don't need a dominant QB. There is tons of talent left in free agency which I can pound when waivers clear and dump Graham, Horny and Kasay to add a little depth.Notice too that I did not get pinned with a spare DEF, which the autodraft algorithm is supposed to select. By excluding those DEF/STs outside of my top-10, I gave the algorithm no option but to skip over the 2nd Team DEF/ST. I got burned by the algorithm at PK because I selected a PK (likely Kasay) in my top-10 that was not drafted in the top-10 players (min) at the position. I might suggest only ranking 5-7 PKs and obvious ones at that and excluding even more. All in all, a very solid draft and again, the best I've managed in this format.U
Click to expand...
Would you exclude less in a 16-team league?
Click to expand...
Probably would. In a ten team league I definitely planned on X amount of guys per position being allocated.Where you really need to pound it with Exclude though is those "luxury" positions as someone else so eloquently called them. I still say don't allow for more than 16 PKs ranked - and as I advised, I'd rank no more than 50-70% (+/-) of the top 16 PKs (1 per team drafted minimum, guaranteed). I'd say rank 11-12 and exclude the rest. Rank only the obvious DEF/STs and DUMP the rest - especially the crappy ones. Same deal with TEs. Top 12-16 and eliminate the rest. As for frivolous QBs and even bottom feeding WRs I say Exclude and play the odds. While everyone else is drafting back-up PKs, DEFs, TEs you're cleaning the glass with top-25 ranked players at premium positions.Good luck, and remember, while I collated some thoughts and presented them, much of the credit for the theory behind outsmarting the algorithm goes to others. Todd Conrad's 2005 article was excellent.U
 
so, if you have to use autopick because you can't be on-line for a live draft, what would you do? Any changes to the algorithm?

I know, NFLN says rule # 19 is that there is no excuse for missing a draft, but sometimes life is more important.

What I'm actually planning on doing is giving my wife the master list, and her draft away. I suppose a general drafting strategy for the wife to follow might be for a different thread...

 
Jeff Pasquino said:
CrossEyed said:
So what does Yahoo do if it runs out of players to select from your ranked list?
Click to expand...
You shouldn't let that happen.Yahoo's list is like 300+.
Click to expand...
Thanks to all for this useful thread. To add one step more in detail than CrossEyed in #25 aboveIf I rank 8 Kickers, exclude the rest by design, and somehow the other 11 teams select Kickers before me, and all my 8 are gone, how does Yahoo fill in my starting K?
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Jeff Pasquino said:
CrossEyed said:
So what does Yahoo do if it runs out of players to select from your ranked list?
Click to expand...
You shouldn't let that happen.Yahoo's list is like 300+.
Click to expand...
More importantly but perhaps unmentioned by me directly, you'll be ranking the maximum players allowed by Yahoo in setting up the ranking system detailed above. In the ten team example I gave, you're allowed to rank up to 150 players (15 players/10 teams). You're not going to run dry, even in those larger leagues. Definitely go to the wall though and max your list out - using skill position players though. While the Daniel Grahams and the John Kasays of the league (see my drafted roster) aren't "must haves", they were indeed included in my top 150 based on what I detailed above. Graham was my #9 TE and Kasay my #7 PK. They made my team because I gave the algorithm the "in" to do so.
 
moleculo said:
so, if you have to use autopick because you can't be on-line for a live draft, what would you do? Any changes to the algorithm?I know, NFLN says rule # 19 is that there is no excuse for missing a draft, but sometimes life is more important.What I'm actually planning on doing is giving my wife the master list, and her draft away. I suppose a general drafting strategy for the wife to follow might be for a different thread...
Click to expand...
Understand that you don't "change" Yahoo's algorithm, you **outsmart** it.As for your other point, I ain't touching a 'draft strategy for the wife to follow'. THAT, is a case for Dr. Phil in my opinion. I'd rather set my team on autodraft than have my wife pick it - and she knows her football. "But it says here you wanted Robbie Gould as your top kicker...all of your other #1 ranked players were gone. Why are you mad at me for taking him in the 3rd round?"Uh-uh...brotha...uh-uh.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
jim2658 said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
CrossEyed said:
So what does Yahoo do if it runs out of players to select from your ranked list?
Click to expand...
You shouldn't let that happen.Yahoo's list is like 300+.
Click to expand...
Thanks to all for this useful thread. To add one step more in detail than CrossEyed in #25 aboveIf I rank 8 Kickers, exclude the rest by design, and somehow the other 11 teams select Kickers before me, and all my 8 are gone, how does Yahoo fill in my starting K?
Click to expand...
No, it skips your picks when it runs out. I learned that the hard way.
 
CrossEyed said:
jim2658 said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
CrossEyed said:
So what does Yahoo do if it runs out of players to select from your ranked list?
Click to expand...
You shouldn't let that happen.Yahoo's list is like 300+.
Click to expand...
Thanks to all for this useful thread. To add one step more in detail than CrossEyed in #25 aboveIf I rank 8 Kickers, exclude the rest by design, and somehow the other 11 teams select Kickers before me, and all my 8 are gone, how does Yahoo fill in my starting K?
Click to expand...
No, it skips your picks when it runs out. I learned that the hard way.
Click to expand...
So what you are saying is, if it is a 10 team league, you should rank at least 10 kickers? I could have swore that I excluded all kickers and defense last year and got away with it.
 
King of the Jungle said:
CrossEyed said:
jim2658 said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
CrossEyed said:
So what does Yahoo do if it runs out of players to select from your ranked list?
Click to expand...
You shouldn't let that happen.Yahoo's list is like 300+.
Click to expand...
Thanks to all for this useful thread. To add one step more in detail than CrossEyed in #25 aboveIf I rank 8 Kickers, exclude the rest by design, and somehow the other 11 teams select Kickers before me, and all my 8 are gone, how does Yahoo fill in my starting K?
Click to expand...
No, it skips your picks when it runs out. I learned that the hard way.
Click to expand...
So what you are saying is, if it is a 10 team league, you should rank at least 10 kickers? I could have swore that I excluded all kickers and defense last year and got away with it.
Click to expand...
this is incorrect. it just doesn't assign you a kicker. you'll wind up with the same number of players.
 
King of the Jungle said:
CrossEyed said:
jim2658 said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
CrossEyed said:
So what does Yahoo do if it runs out of players to select from your ranked list?
Click to expand...
You shouldn't let that happen.Yahoo's list is like 300+.
Click to expand...
Thanks to all for this useful thread. To add one step more in detail than CrossEyed in #25 aboveIf I rank 8 Kickers, exclude the rest by design, and somehow the other 11 teams select Kickers before me, and all my 8 are gone, how does Yahoo fill in my starting K?
Click to expand...
No, it skips your picks when it runs out. I learned that the hard way.
Click to expand...
So what you are saying is, if it is a 10 team league, you should rank at least 10 kickers? I could have swore that I excluded all kickers and defense last year and got away with it.
Click to expand...
I miscalculated the number of players that would be drafted and it skipped my last 2 rounds. :bs:
 
CrossEyed said:
King of the Jungle said:
CrossEyed said:
jim2658 said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
CrossEyed said:
So what does Yahoo do if it runs out of players to select from your ranked list?
Click to expand...
You shouldn't let that happen.Yahoo's list is like 300+.
Click to expand...
Thanks to all for this useful thread. To add one step more in detail than CrossEyed in #25 aboveIf I rank 8 Kickers, exclude the rest by design, and somehow the other 11 teams select Kickers before me, and all my 8 are gone, how does Yahoo fill in my starting K?
Click to expand...
No, it skips your picks when it runs out. I learned that the hard way.
Click to expand...
So what you are saying is, if it is a 10 team league, you should rank at least 10 kickers? I could have swore that I excluded all kickers and defense last year and got away with it.
Click to expand...
I miscalculated the number of players that would be drafted and it skipped my last 2 rounds. :thumbup:
Click to expand...
All-Thanks for staying on this. My main goal is to avoid two kickers. I think I'm OK with having my "starting K" slot overlooked - I can live with the unpicked theoretical #13 K and fill via free agency. From what I read here, I plan to rate ONLY those 5-6 Ks for which I have a slight preference [also in Yahoo's top 12 rated]. Great if I get them, fine if I don't, but either way, only 1 or zero kickers on my squad.Does it just "skip" the K starter spot ? I presume the auto pick fills bench slots by my auto-pick list order, regardless of position, and I want to have no Ks on the available for my bench part of the list.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
jim2658 said:
CrossEyed said:
King of the Jungle said:
CrossEyed said:
jim2658 said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
CrossEyed said:
So what does Yahoo do if it runs out of players to select from your ranked list?
Click to expand...
You shouldn't let that happen.Yahoo's list is like 300+.
Click to expand...
Thanks to all for this useful thread. To add one step more in detail than CrossEyed in #25 aboveIf I rank 8 Kickers, exclude the rest by design, and somehow the other 11 teams select Kickers before me, and all my 8 are gone, how does Yahoo fill in my starting K?
Click to expand...
No, it skips your picks when it runs out. I learned that the hard way.
Click to expand...
So what you are saying is, if it is a 10 team league, you should rank at least 10 kickers? I could have swore that I excluded all kickers and defense last year and got away with it.
Click to expand...
I miscalculated the number of players that would be drafted and it skipped my last 2 rounds. :thumbup:
Click to expand...
All-Thanks for staying on this. If I really don't care about Kickers, couldn't I live with the unpicked slot (and fill via free agency with maybe kicker #13) rather than risk two slots being taken by kickers? That's what I really want to avoid.Does it just "skip" the K starter spot ? I presume the auto pick fills bench slots by my auto-pick list order, regardless of position, and I want to have no Ks (and maybe no Ds) on the available for my bench part of the list.
Click to expand...
If you have a 10-team, 10-round draft (100 total players drafted) and exclude all but 80 players you ranked, it will skip your last two picks if your 80 ranked players are all gone in the first 8 rounds.In the same league, if you exclude all but 100 players you ranked, and none of them kickers, you will draft 10 players, none of them kickers.
 
moleculo said:
so, if you have to use autopick because you can't be on-line for a live draft, what would you do? Any changes to the algorithm?I know, NFLN says rule # 19 is that there is no excuse for missing a draft, but sometimes life is more important.What I'm actually planning on doing is giving my wife the master list, and her draft away. I suppose a general drafting strategy for the wife to follow might be for a different thread...
Click to expand...
This only applies to Yahoo drafts where everyone is using autopick. If everyone else is drafting live they won't be restricted to filling out their entire starting roster before going after backups.
 
The Noid said:
jim2658 said:
CrossEyed said:
King of the Jungle said:
CrossEyed said:
jim2658 said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
CrossEyed said:
So what does Yahoo do if it runs out of players to select from your ranked list?
Click to expand...
You shouldn't let that happen.Yahoo's list is like 300+.
Click to expand...
Thanks to all for this useful thread. To add one step more in detail than CrossEyed in #25 aboveIf I rank 8 Kickers, exclude the rest by design, and somehow the other 11 teams select Kickers before me, and all my 8 are gone, how does Yahoo fill in my starting K?
Click to expand...
No, it skips your picks when it runs out. I learned that the hard way.
Click to expand...
So what you are saying is, if it is a 10 team league, you should rank at least 10 kickers? I could have swore that I excluded all kickers and defense last year and got away with it.
Click to expand...
I miscalculated the number of players that would be drafted and it skipped my last 2 rounds. :goodposting:
Click to expand...
All-Thanks for staying on this. If I really don't care about Kickers, couldn't I live with the unpicked slot (and fill via free agency with maybe kicker #13) rather than risk two slots being taken by kickers? That's what I really want to avoid.Does it just "skip" the K starter spot ? I presume the auto pick fills bench slots by my auto-pick list order, regardless of position, and I want to have no Ks (and maybe no Ds) on the available for my bench part of the list.
Click to expand...
If you have a 10-team, 10-round draft (100 total players drafted) and exclude all but 80 players you ranked, it will skip your last two picks if your 80 ranked players are all gone in the first 8 rounds.In the same league, if you exclude all but 100 players you ranked, and none of them kickers, you will draft 10 players, none of them kickers.
Click to expand...
So, to confirm that I understand this:1. No kickers are in my pre-rank list2. All kickers are in the exlcude list3. 7 of my 8 starting postions are filled (K is blank)4. I have plenty of skill positions (WR/RB) still available on my rankings- Will I have no player is selected in the 8th round, and the following round it will start filling in my bench slots- or will it fill in my bench slots a round before everyone else, and the final round I will have no selection because I have no bench slots open and my K spot is blank.
 
sirsydney said:
So, to confirm that I understand this:

1. No kickers are in my pre-rank list

2. All kickers are in the exlcude list

3. 7 of my 8 starting postions are filled (K is blank)

4. I have plenty of skill positions (WR/RB) still available on my rankings

- Will I have no player is selected in the 8th round, and the following round it will start filling in my bench slots

- or will it fill in my bench slots a round before everyone else, and the final round I will have no selection because I have no bench slots open and my K spot is blank.
Click to expand...
I'm not 100% sure about that last part, but I think you will get an extra bench player. You'll almost certainly want to cut that extra player in favor of a kicker before week one, but it might give you a little extra flexibility.So if you're going to exclude all kickers, you need to be sure there is a waiver period between the draft and the time you have to submit your week one lineup.

 
sirsydney said:
The Noid said:
jim2658 said:
CrossEyed said:
King of the Jungle said:
CrossEyed said:
jim2658 said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
CrossEyed said:
So what does Yahoo do if it runs out of players to select from your ranked list?
Click to expand...
You shouldn't let that happen.Yahoo's list is like 300+.
Click to expand...
Thanks to all for this useful thread. To add one step more in detail than CrossEyed in #25 aboveIf I rank 8 Kickers, exclude the rest by design, and somehow the other 11 teams select Kickers before me, and all my 8 are gone, how does Yahoo fill in my starting K?
Click to expand...
No, it skips your picks when it runs out. I learned that the hard way.
Click to expand...
So what you are saying is, if it is a 10 team league, you should rank at least 10 kickers? I could have swore that I excluded all kickers and defense last year and got away with it.
Click to expand...
I miscalculated the number of players that would be drafted and it skipped my last 2 rounds. :popcorn:
Click to expand...
All-Thanks for staying on this. If I really don't care about Kickers, couldn't I live with the unpicked slot (and fill via free agency with maybe kicker #13) rather than risk two slots being taken by kickers? That's what I really want to avoid.Does it just "skip" the K starter spot ? I presume the auto pick fills bench slots by my auto-pick list order, regardless of position, and I want to have no Ks (and maybe no Ds) on the available for my bench part of the list.
Click to expand...
If you have a 10-team, 10-round draft (100 total players drafted) and exclude all but 80 players you ranked, it will skip your last two picks if your 80 ranked players are all gone in the first 8 rounds.In the same league, if you exclude all but 100 players you ranked, and none of them kickers, you will draft 10 players, none of them kickers.
Click to expand...
So, to confirm that I understand this:1. No kickers are in my pre-rank list2. All kickers are in the exlcude list3. 7 of my 8 starting postions are filled (K is blank)4. I have plenty of skill positions (WR/RB) still available on my rankings- Will I have no player is selected in the 8th round, and the following round it will start filling in my bench slots- or will it fill in my bench slots a round before everyone else, and the final round I will have no selection because I have no bench slots open and my K spot is blank.
Click to expand...
take it a step further - Gates is default-ranked #30 overall. If your draft position is in the top 6, move gate's rankings up, such that you will be guaranteed to take him towards the top of the third round. eliminate all remaining TE's from your list, so you don't have to worry about drafting a a back-up TE.for that matter, I'd do the same with Manning in the first. Manning + Gates + no back-up TE or QB means you may be missing out on a stud RB, but the strength of #1 overall in two other positions with all but absolute certainty goes a long ways. As a bonus, you won't need a back-up for these guys, until the bye-week (In week 6, pick up best available FA QB for mannings bye-week. cut him immediately afterwards for best FA TE). using this, you will basically have a roster 2 positions deeper than anyone else. more importantly, you are not loosing value when you are forced to draft these guys. While you can debate if they are worth drafting at that spot, you can't really debate that drafting the 12th TE before your 3rd or 4th RB is loosing tremendous value.
 
for reference - here is Yahoo's top 50. Significant over ranks are in red, under ranks in blue (for non-PPR). consider this to be your opponents cheat sheet (assuming they did not pre-rank):

1. LaDainian Tomlinson

2. Steven Jackson

3. Larry Johnson

4. Joseph Addai

5. Shaun Alexander

6. Frank Gore

7. Rudi Johnson

8. Laurence Maroney

9. Brian Westbrook

10. Willie Parker

11. Travis Henry

12. Peyton Manning

13. Ronnie Brown

14. Reggie Bush

15. Maurice Jones-Drew

16. Brandon Jacobs

17. Willis McGahee

18. Cedric Benson

19. Steve Smith

20. Marvin Harrison

21. Terrell Owens

22. Torry Holt

23. Chad Johnson

24. Edgerrin James

25. Clinton Portis

26. Carson Palmer

27. Thomas Jones

28. T.J. Houshmandzadeh

29. Reggie Wayne

30. Antonio Gates

31. Larry Fitzgerald

32. Marques Colston

33. Roy Williams

34. Marshawn Lynch

35. Drew Brees

36. Tom Brady

37. Marc Bulger

38. Carnell Williams

39. Deuce McAllister

40. Anquan Boldin

41. Lee Evans

42. Javon Walker

43. Jamal Lewis

44. Jerious Norwood

45. Randy Moss

46. Andre Johnson

47. Donald Driver

48. Marion Barber III

49. Ahman Green

50. Adrian Peterson

 
moleculo said:
sirsydney said:
The Noid said:
jim2658 said:
CrossEyed said:
King of the Jungle said:
CrossEyed said:
jim2658 said:
Jeff Pasquino said:
CrossEyed said:
So what does Yahoo do if it runs out of players to select from your ranked list?
Click to expand...
You shouldn't let that happen.Yahoo's list is like 300+.
Click to expand...
Thanks to all for this useful thread. To add one step more in detail than CrossEyed in #25 aboveIf I rank 8 Kickers, exclude the rest by design, and somehow the other 11 teams select Kickers before me, and all my 8 are gone, how does Yahoo fill in my starting K?
Click to expand...
No, it skips your picks when it runs out. I learned that the hard way.
Click to expand...
So what you are saying is, if it is a 10 team league, you should rank at least 10 kickers? I could have swore that I excluded all kickers and defense last year and got away with it.
Click to expand...
I miscalculated the number of players that would be drafted and it skipped my last 2 rounds. :excited:
Click to expand...
All-Thanks for staying on this. If I really don't care about Kickers, couldn't I live with the unpicked slot (and fill via free agency with maybe kicker #13) rather than risk two slots being taken by kickers? That's what I really want to avoid.Does it just "skip" the K starter spot ? I presume the auto pick fills bench slots by my auto-pick list order, regardless of position, and I want to have no Ks (and maybe no Ds) on the available for my bench part of the list.
Click to expand...
If you have a 10-team, 10-round draft (100 total players drafted) and exclude all but 80 players you ranked, it will skip your last two picks if your 80 ranked players are all gone in the first 8 rounds.In the same league, if you exclude all but 100 players you ranked, and none of them kickers, you will draft 10 players, none of them kickers.
Click to expand...
So, to confirm that I understand this:1. No kickers are in my pre-rank list2. All kickers are in the exlcude list3. 7 of my 8 starting postions are filled (K is blank)4. I have plenty of skill positions (WR/RB) still available on my rankings- Will I have no player is selected in the 8th round, and the following round it will start filling in my bench slots- or will it fill in my bench slots a round before everyone else, and the final round I will have no selection because I have no bench slots open and my K spot is blank.
Click to expand...
take it a step further - Gates is default-ranked #30 overall. If your draft position is in the top 6, move gate's rankings up, such that you will be guaranteed to take him towards the top of the third round. eliminate all remaining TE's from your list, so you don't have to worry about drafting a a back-up TE.for that matter, I'd do the same with Manning in the first. Manning + Gates + no back-up TE or QB means you may be missing out on a stud RB, but the strength of #1 overall in two other positions with all but absolute certainty goes a long ways. As a bonus, you won't need a back-up for these guys, until the bye-week (In week 6, pick up best available FA QB for mannings bye-week. cut him immediately afterwards for best FA TE). using this, you will basically have a roster 2 positions deeper than anyone else. more importantly, you are not loosing value when you are forced to draft these guys. While you can debate if they are worth drafting at that spot, you can't really debate that drafting the 12th TE before your 3rd or 4th RB is loosing tremendous value.
Click to expand...
just did a quick simulation of this, and as long as starting line-up is always filled out before bench, and whom ever drafts Manning and/or Gates at market value seems to do better because they don't have to overpay later on. By that, I mean once all RB/WR positions are filled, the other teams have to skip good players to get the QB and/or TE, essentially overpaying for these positions.my next league has a bench size of two players, so I now need to understand what that means - does that make a "sure thing" like gates and Manning even more valuable?
 
Here's a little different twist. I have a Yahoo autodraft coming up with IDPs. The scoring is such that they start showing up in the DD rankings in the late teens, with about 10 total defensive players in the top 50 overall. Since Yahoo doesn't rank IDP, probably half the league won't take the time to do it either.

Using the method described in this thread, do I leave them where they are in the rankings, or drop some or all of them out of the top 50 (assuming they'll be ignored by Yahoo and most drafters) and block them in below?

 
A note about Yahoo! leagues...

It seems to me that this year, Yahoo's default pre-draft rankings are much better than they've been in years past. Live sleepers are ranked accordingly and it seems that either they've hired much better people to make projections, or projections in general are more homogenous this year from site-to-site. Thus, if you're drafting in a league with some real boneheads, they'll still draft pretty well if they just blindly follow the pre-draft rankings. Last year, I had ungodly RB value fall to me (drafted Jones and Benson on the 6/7 turn for example) - that will not happen this year.

ETA : This obviously applies only to live draft leagues, not auto-draft, but I thought people might like to know.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Evilgrin 72 said:
A note about Yahoo! leagues...It seems to me that this year, Yahoo's default pre-draft rankings are much better than they've been in years past. Live sleepers are ranked accordingly and it seems that either they've hired much better people to make projections, or projections in general are more homogenous this year from site-to-site. Thus, if you're drafting in a league with some real boneheads, they'll still draft pretty well if they just blindly follow the pre-draft rankings. Last year, I had ungodly RB value fall to me (drafted Jones and Benson on the 6/7 turn for example) - that will not happen this year.ETA : This obviously applies only to live draft leagues, not auto-draft, but I thought people might like to know.
Click to expand...
Yep, I noticed this as well. Not that they could get much worse, but there's been a marked improvement in this year's default rankings.
 
The_U said:
I like to play one Yahoo autodraft a year just to help take the emotion or more accurately, the heartstrings out of the equation. Following a hybrid of the various threads linked to Doug's initial posting including Todd Conrad's great 2005 article linked by Pasquino I set up my pre-draft for a ten team as follows:1) Top 50 - VBD2) Player #51 begins all RBs not in my top 50 VBD up to 40 total RBs ranked3) After 40 TOTAL RBs ranked begin ranking ALL WRs not in VBD 50 up to 50 TOTAL WRs ranked4) After 50 TOTAL WRs ranked begin ranking ALL QBs not in VDB 50 up to 20 TOTAL QBs ranked - Move all remaining QBs to EXCLUDE list.5) After 20 TOTAL QBs ranked and all remaining QBs are excluded, rank up to TEN total TEs including those in your VBD 50. Move all remaining TEs to EXCLUDE list.6) After 10 TOTAL TEs ranked and all remaining TEs are excluded, rank your top 10 TOTAL PKs and EXCLUDE all remaining PKs.7) After 10 TOTAL PKs ranked and all remaining PKs are excluded, rank your top 10 TOTAL Team DEF/ST and EXCLUDE all remaining Team DEF/STs.Don't overlook the value and/or the extra work invloved in that Exclude function; that seems to be a key to a successful draft. In addition to removing frivolous players from your draft eligibility pool, use it to remove guys you simply don't want to deal with this season. I moved anyone on my personal fringe list to Exclude as well. I.E. I don't want to deal with the Kevin Jones-Tatum Bell situation - GONE; I'm not keen on the Portis-Betts thing - GONE; Fred Taylor in a ten team autodraft? No thanks - GONE. I don't care about CLE QBs - GONE...you get my drift.I set my status to Ready and in about 36 hours returned the following roster:QBs: Roethlisberger, DelhommeRBs: LT2, McGahee, NorwoodWRs: Owens, L. Evans, J. Walk, S. Holmes, HornTEs: V. Davis, D. GrahamPKs: Elam, KasayDEF: DenverThat's about as good a team as one can hope to yoke out of a Yahoo autodraft in my opinion. Certainly one of the better ones I've seen. I got my top to upper ranked players at most positions except QB which I pushed down my list to begin with as I personally like Ben to have a nice season, and with these other skill players I don't need a dominant QB. There is tons of talent left in free agency which I can pound when waivers clear and dump Graham, Horny and Kasay to add a little depth.Notice too that I did not get pinned with a spare DEF, which the autodraft algorithm is supposed to select. By excluding those DEF/STs outside of my top-10, I gave the algorithm no option but to skip over the 2nd Team DEF/ST. I got burned by the algorithm at PK because I selected a PK (likely Kasay) in my top-10 that was not drafted in the top-10 players (min) at the position. I might suggest only ranking 5-7 PKs and obvious ones at that and excluding even more. All in all, a very solid draft and again, the best I've managed in this format.U
Click to expand...
I know some of the detail in this thread might only work for total Yahoo auto drafts. Like where you rank by position blocks from the start. But I'm thinking this post might work fine for Yahoo live drafts where the owner would not be able to make it, no matter if all/partial other owners are there or not. Do you agree?
 
Bobcat10 said:
The_U said:
I like to play one Yahoo autodraft a year just to help take the emotion or more accurately, the heartstrings out of the equation. Following a hybrid of the various threads linked to Doug's initial posting including Todd Conrad's great 2005 article linked by Pasquino I set up my pre-draft for a ten team as follows:1) Top 50 - VBD2) Player #51 begins all RBs not in my top 50 VBD up to 40 total RBs ranked3) After 40 TOTAL RBs ranked begin ranking ALL WRs not in VBD 50 up to 50 TOTAL WRs ranked4) After 50 TOTAL WRs ranked begin ranking ALL QBs not in VDB 50 up to 20 TOTAL QBs ranked - Move all remaining QBs to EXCLUDE list.5) After 20 TOTAL QBs ranked and all remaining QBs are excluded, rank up to TEN total TEs including those in your VBD 50. Move all remaining TEs to EXCLUDE list.6) After 10 TOTAL TEs ranked and all remaining TEs are excluded, rank your top 10 TOTAL PKs and EXCLUDE all remaining PKs.7) After 10 TOTAL PKs ranked and all remaining PKs are excluded, rank your top 10 TOTAL Team DEF/ST and EXCLUDE all remaining Team DEF/STs.Don't overlook the value and/or the extra work invloved in that Exclude function; that seems to be a key to a successful draft. In addition to removing frivolous players from your draft eligibility pool, use it to remove guys you simply don't want to deal with this season. I moved anyone on my personal fringe list to Exclude as well. I.E. I don't want to deal with the Kevin Jones-Tatum Bell situation - GONE; I'm not keen on the Portis-Betts thing - GONE; Fred Taylor in a ten team autodraft? No thanks - GONE. I don't care about CLE QBs - GONE...you get my drift.I set my status to Ready and in about 36 hours returned the following roster:QBs: Roethlisberger, DelhommeRBs: LT2, McGahee, NorwoodWRs: Owens, L. Evans, J. Walk, S. Holmes, HornTEs: V. Davis, D. GrahamPKs: Elam, KasayDEF: DenverThat's about as good a team as one can hope to yoke out of a Yahoo autodraft in my opinion. Certainly one of the better ones I've seen. I got my top to upper ranked players at most positions except QB which I pushed down my list to begin with as I personally like Ben to have a nice season, and with these other skill players I don't need a dominant QB. There is tons of talent left in free agency which I can pound when waivers clear and dump Graham, Horny and Kasay to add a little depth.Notice too that I did not get pinned with a spare DEF, which the autodraft algorithm is supposed to select. By excluding those DEF/STs outside of my top-10, I gave the algorithm no option but to skip over the 2nd Team DEF/ST. I got burned by the algorithm at PK because I selected a PK (likely Kasay) in my top-10 that was not drafted in the top-10 players (min) at the position. I might suggest only ranking 5-7 PKs and obvious ones at that and excluding even more. All in all, a very solid draft and again, the best I've managed in this format.U
Click to expand...
I know some of the detail in this thread might only work for total Yahoo auto drafts. Like where you rank by position blocks from the start. But I'm thinking this post might work fine for Yahoo live drafts where the owner would not be able to make it, no matter if all/partial other owners are there or not. Do you agree?
Click to expand...
It's not necessarily the **perfect** list for my tastes in a (primarily) non-automated format, but yes, I think that this rankings list could suffice for someone who absolutely had to miss a draft and needed an autodrafter to sit in for them. The only real hangup I could see is the 'blocks' causing a glut at various skill positions, though I think the counter to that is live drafters are going to be scooping into those blocks with far more regularity than would an auto-drafter, so it probably evens out.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

joey
Help Needed - yahoo autodraft tips/tricks/hacks
Replies
13
Views
4K
rick6668
rick6668
The Frankman
14 -16 Team Y! League, non-PPR Double Flex, $110 Buy-in (PayPal), 3RR Draft 9/4!
Replies
8
Views
947
The Frankman
The Frankman
Evilgrin 72
EG72's 2013 1st Round Mock, with "It's Always Sunny" q
2
Replies
60
Views
3K
Evilgrin 72
Evilgrin 72

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 1 (members: 0, guests: 1)
Back
Top