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Most fantasy leagues featured him as perhaps the 25th best quarterback, if that. I only have Mark Bulger, who hasn't looked good in preseason, and Jason Campbell, who has some injury concerns. I decided to drop my 5th RB, Brian Leonard, and to pick up Matt Schaub? Good move, bad move? Anyone else have an opinion on him? I heard Schaub has a quick release.

 
Most fantasy leagues featured him as perhaps the 25th best quarterback, if that. I only have Mark Bulger, who hasn't looked good in preseason, and Jason Campbell, who has some injury concerns. I decided to drop my 5th RB, Brian Leonard, and to pick up Matt Schaub? Good move, bad move? Anyone else have an opinion on him? I heard Schaub has a quick release.
I wouldn't worry about Bulger. I would rather have 5 RB than 3 QB, and I would rather have Schaub than Campbell.
 
Most fantasy leagues featured him as perhaps the 25th best quarterback, if that. I only have Mark Bulger, who hasn't looked good in preseason, and Jason Campbell, who has some injury concerns. I decided to drop my 5th RB, Brian Leonard, and to pick up Matt Schaub? Good move, bad move? Anyone else have an opinion on him? I heard Schaub has a quick release.
I wouldn't worry about Bulger. I would rather have 5 RB than 3 QB, and I would rather have Schaub than Campbell.
Campbell, in 7 games last year, averaged about 17 points a game and never scored below 12 in any game. He also threw a TD pass at least I think in every game.
 
Most fantasy leagues featured him as perhaps the 25th best quarterback, if that. I only have Mark Bulger, who hasn't looked good in preseason, and Jason Campbell, who has some injury concerns. I decided to drop my 5th RB, Brian Leonard, and to pick up Matt Schaub? Good move, bad move? Anyone else have an opinion on him? I heard Schaub has a quick release.
I wouldn't worry about Bulger. I would rather have 5 RB than 3 QB, and I would rather have Schaub than Campbell.
Schaub, as well as, Campbell are both undervalued. I could see Schaub as top 15. He is ranked 25th in some leagues I am in also.
 
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Schaub has had a very nice preseason. By my unofficial count - 24-33 (73%), 242 yds, 2 PTD, 1 RTD, 0 INT, and a 100+ passer rating.

The lazy assumption of the Texans last year and heading into the preseason was that the o-line sucked... the reality has been that while the Texans pass pro is nothing extraordinary, they aren't nearly as bad as most seemed to have thought. Anyone watching David Carr run hot-n-cold as a Panther?

Schaub, Daniels, Green... all of these guys are probably going to represent good values this year based on where I am seeing they're being drafted.

 
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Schaub has had a very nice preseason. By my unofficial count - 24-33 (73%), 242 yds, 2 PTD, 1 RTD, 0 INT, and a 100+ passer rating.

The lazy assumption of the Texans last year and heading into the preseason was that the o-line sucked... the reality has been that while the Texans pass pro is nothing extraordinary, they aren't nearly as bad as most seemed to have thought. Anyone watching David Carr run hot-n-cold as a Panther?

Schaub, Daniels, Green... all of these guys are probably going to represent good values this year based on where I am seeing they're being drafted.
Jacoby J. is going to get close to 1000 yds starting opposite of A. Johnson. More points if he also continues to return kicks. He also will not be on waivers after the first week.
 
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In the 3 games I've seen so far, he seems very poised and accurate. I really like how he moves within the pocket--he seems to feel where the rush is coming from and slides away from it. Jacoby Jones looks like the real deal so that will give him another target that most of us weren't anticipating a few weeks ago. I try not to let homerism affect my rankings, but I've moved him up to around 16 on my list. I doubt he'll go nuts and singlehandedly win you games, but I think he'll be solid and not kill you with turnovers (of course, I've had Favre and Grossman the last two seasons). This offense looks nothing like the last 5 years around here, and it all starts with Schaub.

 
Wow I'm really impressed with the rookie Jones, he's got speed, size, hands and some nice moves. Does he have the return and WR2 job secured after this pre-season of his ?

 
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Schaub has had a very nice preseason. By my unofficial count - 24-33 (73%), 242 yds, 2 PTD, 1 RTD, 0 INT, and a 100+ passer rating.

The lazy assumption of the Texans last year and heading into the preseason was that the o-line sucked... the reality has been that while the Texans pass pro is nothing extraordinary, they aren't nearly as bad as most seemed to have thought. Anyone watching David Carr run hot-n-cold as a Panther?

Schaub, Daniels, Green... all of these guys are probably going to represent good values this year based on where I am seeing they're being drafted.
I've been saying this for years. it was always met with, Carr is great and it's not hsi fault. Well now you all see it was. The reason the o-line has looked so bad is because Carr IS bad. The Panthers will now magically have a bad o-line once he replaces (a horrible but inevitable move) Delhomme.
 
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Schaub has had a very nice preseason. By my unofficial count - 24-33 (73%), 242 yds, 2 PTD, 1 RTD, 0 INT, and a 100+ passer rating.

The lazy assumption of the Texans last year and heading into the preseason was that the o-line sucked... the reality has been that while the Texans pass pro is nothing extraordinary, they aren't nearly as bad as most seemed to have thought. Anyone watching David Carr run hot-n-cold as a Panther?

Schaub, Daniels, Green... all of these guys are probably going to represent good values this year based on where I am seeing they're being drafted.
Jacoby J. is going to get close to 1000 yds starting opposite of A. Johnson. More points if he also continues to return kicks. He also will not be on waivers after the first week.
At no time should he be on waivers unless it is an extremely small league. Going into the NFL draft Jacoby was not a secret, he was a regular on Sirius NFL Radio, the only knock on him was that he was "Raw" coing out of tiny LANE college. He's got loads of talent and even at this infantile stage in his NFL carear it will be hard for Kubiak & team to keep him off the field. He's being used as a WR, as a punt returner, heck, he's even carried the ball three or four times. Jacoby is a future stud in the making.
 
Wow I'm really impressed with the rookie Jones, he's got speed, size, hands and some nice moves. Does he have the return and WR2 job secured after this pre-season of his ?
I don't see how Walter can hold him off. Maybe, just maybe Walter remains the starter for week one, the writing is on the wall and Jacoby will be WR2 sooner rather than later.
 
Wow I'm really impressed with the rookie Jones, he's got speed, size, hands and some nice moves. Does he have the return and WR2 job secured after this pre-season of his ?
I don't see how Walter can hold him off. Maybe, just maybe Walter remains the starter for week one, the writing is on the wall and Jacoby will be WR2 sooner rather than later.
I'm definitely on the bandwagon, having drafted him in 3 different dynasty leagues this off-season obviously helps too. Its the pre-season sure, but its hard not to get excited about his abilities as a playmaker. Return yards scoring only makes him even more of an attractive option. Maybe I should make room for him on my active roster, he won't do much good on the taxi squad.
 
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Schaub has had a very nice preseason. By my unofficial count - 24-33 (73%), 242 yds, 2 PTD, 1 RTD, 0 INT, and a 100+ passer rating.

The lazy assumption of the Texans last year and heading into the preseason was that the o-line sucked... the reality has been that while the Texans pass pro is nothing extraordinary, they aren't nearly as bad as most seemed to have thought. Anyone watching David Carr run hot-n-cold as a Panther?

Schaub, Daniels, Green... all of these guys are probably going to represent good values this year based on where I am seeing they're being drafted.
I've been saying this for years. it was always met with, Carr is great and it's not hsi fault. Well now you all see it was. The reason the o-line has looked so bad is because Carr IS bad. The Panthers will now magically have a bad o-line once he replaces (a horrible but inevitable move) Delhomme.
Yeah, it's easy to tell watching Schaub play against vanilla preseason defenses. :confused:
 
Wow I'm really impressed with the rookie Jones, he's got speed, size, hands and some nice moves. Does he have the return and WR2 job secured after this pre-season of his ?
I don't see how Walter can hold him off. Maybe, just maybe Walter remains the starter for week one, the writing is on the wall and Jacoby will be WR2 sooner rather than later.
:confused: He has been the most impressive of all the rookie WRs, and it's even more impressive considering he came from a small college.
 
I liked Schaub when he came into the NFL. I always thought they needed to move Vick out and start Schaub. And when they traded him away, I slapped my forehead and said they traded the wrong guy. Of course, this was even before the whole dog fighting thing...

Anywho.. if the Texans can keep Schaub upright long enough, the guy is going to put up some solid numbers methinks. I think he'll outproduce his ADP by a lot this year...

 
Most fantasy leagues featured him as perhaps the 25th best quarterback, if that. I only have Mark Bulger, who hasn't looked good in preseason, and Jason Campbell, who has some injury concerns. I decided to drop my 5th RB, Brian Leonard, and to pick up Matt Schaub? Good move, bad move? Anyone else have an opinion on him? I heard Schaub has a quick release.
Good move. What's impressed me the most is how he's adapted to the Texans' weak pass-blocking OL.
 
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Schaub has had a very nice preseason. By my unofficial count - 24-33 (73%), 242 yds, 2 PTD, 1 RTD, 0 INT, and a 100+ passer rating.

The lazy assumption of the Texans last year and heading into the preseason was that the o-line sucked... the reality has been that while the Texans pass pro is nothing extraordinary, they aren't nearly as bad as most seemed to have thought. Anyone watching David Carr run hot-n-cold as a Panther?

Schaub, Daniels, Green... all of these guys are probably going to represent good values this year based on where I am seeing they're being drafted.
I've been saying this for years. it was always met with, Carr is great and it's not hsi fault. Well now you all see it was. The reason the o-line has looked so bad is because Carr IS bad. The Panthers will now magically have a bad o-line once he replaces (a horrible but inevitable move) Delhomme.
The O-line has not provided that great of pass protection to Schaub yet. It's slightly better than last year perhaps, but not even average yet. In the past I think the line, Carr and the Capers coaching staff deserved equal shares of blame. Schaub is doing an excellent job of getting rid of the ball quickly and of stepping up or bailing on the pocket in spite of pressure.But he isn't getting the average amount of time to get rid of the ball you'd expect for an NFL QB, and not in the same ballpark on how much time opposing QBs are getting. (Though Houston's pass rush looks a little improved at least.)

 
I think it was an excellent move on your part, being a Texans homer who gets to watch all the games, Schaub just looks so much better than Carr ever did...

Yes it is only pre-season but you can tell just by watching him, he is a NFL quarteback and with AJ, Jacoby Jones/Walters, Owen Daniels and A Green to throw to I see him having a fantastic season. He has great pocket presence and can go through his progressions quickly which is something Carr could not do...

I picked him up in a recent draft as my QB2 and would not be surprised to have him morph into my QB1 over the season...

The Houston Texans have a NFL quality offense and their defense will be questionable at best...

I can actually see them going 8-8 this year and it will be the offense that wins those games. I see a lot of 35 - 32 games. They will have to outscore a lot of opponents and they have the guns to do it...

I don't think top 12 is out of the question, he is hugely undervalued from what I can see...

This is of coure with rose colored homer glasses on, but I originally hated the trade and now think it was brilliant, he has won me over...

I also think Sage would be a very good starter should Schaub go down. I thought Sage was better than Carr last year. So depending on roster size you may want to pick him up if you can...

 
After maligning the O-line there, let me add, they did a great job opening holes last night in the running game. Ahman Green looks a lot better than I have expected him to. Texans could have a great running game if they can continue this into the regular season.

 
Most fantasy leagues featured him as perhaps the 25th best quarterback, if that. I only have Mark Bulger, who hasn't looked good in preseason, and Jason Campbell, who has some injury concerns.

Your concern is understandable although I would tend to agree with earlier posts that Bulger's numbers will improve dramatically once all his starters are playing the full game...

I decided to drop my 5th RB, Brian Leonard, and to pick up Matt Schaub?

Not knowing your roster this is not a bad move for a redraft as I suspect Leonards true potential would be longterm rather than this season (barring an injury to Jackson)

Good move, bad move? Anyone else have an opinion on him? I heard Schaub has a quick release.
I think Schaub will do much better than Carr has not only because of his quick release but the fact that Lewis should provide a far more consistent running game - even if he isn't as solid as he was in his prime but even more so by the emergence of a viable alternative WR option other than AJ.
 
Most fantasy leagues featured him as perhaps the 25th best quarterback, if that. I only have Mark Bulger, who hasn't looked good in preseason, and Jason Campbell, who has some injury concerns.

Your concern is understandable although I would tend to agree with earlier posts that Bulger's numbers will improve dramatically once all his starters are playing the full game...

I decided to drop my 5th RB, Brian Leonard, and to pick up Matt Schaub?

Not knowing your roster this is not a bad move for a redraft as I suspect Leonards true potential would be longterm rather than this season (barring an injury to Jackson)

Good move, bad move? Anyone else have an opinion on him? I heard Schaub has a quick release.
I think Schaub will do much better than Carr has not only because of his quick release but the fact that Lewis Green should provide a far more consistent running game - even if he isn't as solid as he was in his prime but even more so by the emergence of a viable alternative WR option other than AJ.
 
I think Schaub will do much better than Carr has not only because of his quick release but the fact that Lewis Green should provide a far more consistent running game - even if he isn't as solid as he was in his prime but even more so by the emergence of a viable alternative WR option other than AJ.

Thanks for the assist there kid - getting my old timers mixed up.

 
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Schaub has had a very nice preseason. By my unofficial count - 24-33 (73%), 242 yds, 2 PTD, 1 RTD, 0 INT, and a 100+ passer rating.

The lazy assumption of the Texans last year and heading into the preseason was that the o-line sucked... the reality has been that while the Texans pass pro is nothing extraordinary, they aren't nearly as bad as most seemed to have thought. Anyone watching David Carr run hot-n-cold as a Panther?

Schaub, Daniels, Green... all of these guys are probably going to represent good values this year based on where I am seeing they're being drafted.
I've been saying this for years. it was always met with, Carr is great and it's not hsi fault. Well now you all see it was. The reason the o-line has looked so bad is because Carr IS bad. The Panthers will now magically have a bad o-line once he replaces (a horrible but inevitable move) Delhomme.
Yeah, it's easy to tell watching Schaub play against vanilla preseason defenses. :mellow:
You obviously did not see the precision pass Schaub threw last week that Carr could never have thrown without it being intercepted.. A downfield pass with a small window where he had to get the ball over the linebacker yet allow Daniels the TE to make the catch in stride with defenders closing. Hell, carr would have never even seen that Daniels was 'open'. You should watch a game once in a while.Roll your eyes all day becaue you got no clue.

 
Most fantasy leagues featured him as perhaps the 25th best quarterback, if that. I only have Mark Bulger, who hasn't looked good in preseason, and Jason Campbell, who has some injury concerns.

Your concern is understandable although I would tend to agree with earlier posts that Bulger's numbers will improve dramatically once all his starters are playing the full game...

I decided to drop my 5th RB, Brian Leonard, and to pick up Matt Schaub?

Not knowing your roster this is not a bad move for a redraft as I suspect Leonards true potential would be longterm rather than this season (barring an injury to Jackson)

Good move, bad move? Anyone else have an opinion on him? I heard Schaub has a quick release.
I think Schaub will do much better than Carr has not only because of his quick release but the fact that Lewis should provide a far more consistent running game - even if he isn't as solid as he was in his prime but even more so by the emergence of a viable alternative WR option other than AJ.
Don't forget its pre-seasonMatt Hasselback used to put up Pro-bowl numbers in Green Bay in the pre-season and totally flop in the regular season when they put the real defenses on the field. Dallas was running base defense packages last night. Schaub could be good but it all depends on how well the line blocks for him because the smart teams are going to blitz a lot.

He's better than Carr with or without a line because he makes better decisions.

 
I'll reserve judgement until he plays against something other than a preseason vanilla defense. I still think the line is a major issue. They have not proved they can pass protect a regular season defense that will blitz.

 
Don't forget its pre-season

Matt Hasselback used to put up Pro-bowl numbers in Green Bay in the pre-season and totally flop in the regular season when they put the real defenses on the field. Dallas was running base defense packages last night. Schaub could be good but it all depends on how well the line blocks for him because the smart teams are going to blitz a lot.

He's better than Carr with or without a line because he makes better decisions.
Hass has put up Pro Bowl numbers since his days playing preseason games for Green Bay :banned: I would rather avoid the Schaub v Carr debate if possible but my overall point was Green should provide more consistency out of the backfield than last year or even when Dom Davis/Williams was playing and that Houston has NEVER had anyone other than AJ for a defense to focus on in the receiving game.

The O line remains a question mark until it proves itself but the changes in the backfield and the emergence of a valid WR2 will help regardless if the O line improves or not. If the line improves the overall production will make a much more obvious leap though without a doubt.

 
Don't forget its pre-season

Matt Hasselback used to put up Pro-bowl numbers in Green Bay in the pre-season and totally flop in the regular season when they put the real defenses on the field. Dallas was running base defense packages last night. Schaub could be good but it all depends on how well the line blocks for him because the smart teams are going to blitz a lot.

He's better than Carr with or without a line because he makes better decisions.
Wha?Hasselbeck got virtually no playing time in GB -- 29 passing attempts in two seasons as Favre's backup.

He was never even on the field during the regular season long enough to "totally flop."

 
dallas wasn't running vanilla def last night, at least not with the front 7. they did blitzes and stunts. good pressure on shaub throughout the game.

he played pretty poised and got the ball out quickly. granted, the texans were running the ball well and cowboys were missing newman.

 
Wow I'm really impressed with the rookie Jones, he's got speed, size, hands and some nice moves. Does he have the return and WR2 job secured after this pre-season of his ?
I don't see how Walter can hold him off. Maybe, just maybe Walter remains the starter for week one, the writing is on the wall and Jacoby will be WR2 sooner rather than later.
This is a common misconception with a lot of people, even people here in Houston.Houston will not have a clearly defined WR2. Walter and JJones will both play the part of WR2 depending on a number of factors including down, distance, and play call. Houston will also be running a lot of 3 reciever sets. So, trying to define the WR2 is really just an exercise in futility.
 
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Schaub has had a very nice preseason. By my unofficial count - 24-33 (73%), 242 yds, 2 PTD, 1 RTD, 0 INT, and a 100+ passer rating.

The lazy assumption of the Texans last year and heading into the preseason was that the o-line sucked... the reality has been that while the Texans pass pro is nothing extraordinary, they aren't nearly as bad as most seemed to have thought. Anyone watching David Carr run hot-n-cold as a Panther?

Schaub, Daniels, Green... all of these guys are probably going to represent good values this year based on where I am seeing they're being drafted.
Jacoby J. is going to get close to 1000 yds starting opposite of A. Johnson. More points if he also continues to return kicks. He also will not be on waivers after the first week.
At no time should he be on waivers unless it is an extremely small league. Going into the NFL draft Jacoby was not a secret, he was a regular on Sirius NFL Radio, the only knock on him was that he was "Raw" coing out of tiny LANE college. He's got loads of talent and even at this infantile stage in his NFL carear it will be hard for Kubiak & team to keep him off the field. He's being used as a WR, as a punt returner, heck, he's even carried the ball three or four times. Jacoby is a future stud in the making.
Any chance he is this year's version of Colston? I haven't watched him play, but I've heard alot about him. I just drafted yesterday and am still looking for hidden gems.
 
the line is going to get crushed. Schaub is not a major sleeper. be prepared to have some bad weeks if you are relying on him for a filler. Cambell - I like a lot.

 
Wow I'm really impressed with the rookie Jones, he's got speed, size, hands and some nice moves. Does he have the return and WR2 job secured after this pre-season of his ?
I don't see how Walter can hold him off. Maybe, just maybe Walter remains the starter for week one, the writing is on the wall and Jacoby will be WR2 sooner rather than later.
This is a common misconception with a lot of people, even people here in Houston.Houston will not have a clearly defined WR2. Walter and JJones will both play the part of WR2 depending on a number of factors including down, distance, and play call. Houston will also be running a lot of 3 reciever sets. So, trying to define the WR2 is really just an exercise in futility.
I think this is the current status on the WR corp, but I am not so sure it will stay that way. While the Texans are not rushing to place the title of clear number 2 on Jacoby, he may just play himself into the role. Walter has been average during the pre-season and Jones appears to be an explosive player that defenses have to account for.
 
Most fantasy leagues featured him as perhaps the 25th best quarterback, if that. I only have Mark Bulger, who hasn't looked good in preseason, and Jason Campbell, who has some injury concerns. I decided to drop my 5th RB, Brian Leonard, and to pick up Matt Schaub? Good move, bad move? Anyone else have an opinion on him? I heard Schaub has a quick release.
I wouldn't worry about Bulger. I would rather have 5 RB than 3 QB, and I would rather have Schaub than Campbell.
Agree
 
Jacoby J. is going to get close to 1000 yds starting opposite of A. Johnson. More points if he also continues to return kicks. He also will not be on waivers after the first week.
He's now getting drafted in rounds 10 to 12. Jones' stock went WAY up after last night.
 
Don't forget its pre-season

Matt Hasselback used to put up Pro-bowl numbers in Green Bay in the pre-season and totally flop in the regular season when they put the real defenses on the field. Dallas was running base defense packages last night. Schaub could be good but it all depends on how well the line blocks for him because the smart teams are going to blitz a lot.

He's better than Carr with or without a line because he makes better decisions.
Wha?Hasselbeck got virtually no playing time in GB -- 29 passing attempts in two seasons as Favre's backup.

He was never even on the field during the regular season long enough to "totally flop."
Yep. Hasselbeck was called "Mr. August" for a reason in GB--that's the only time he ever played.He definitely took his lumps in Seattle when he first became a starter, but that's to be expected from a green QB. I don't think Schaub falls under that same category. He actually has some playing time under his belt.

 
Don't forget its pre-season

Matt Hasselback used to put up Pro-bowl numbers in Green Bay in the pre-season and totally flop in the regular season when they put the real defenses on the field. Dallas was running base defense packages last night. Schaub could be good but it all depends on how well the line blocks for him because the smart teams are going to blitz a lot.

He's better than Carr with or without a line because he makes better decisions.
Wha?Hasselbeck got virtually no playing time in GB -- 29 passing attempts in two seasons as Favre's backup.

He was never even on the field during the regular season long enough to "totally flop."
But he did look good during the preseason games he played in. When you play behind Iron Man Favre you have to count ANY playing time you get.
 
Prior to the start of camp I thought Schaub was a year away from being a viable fantasy option. I liked him and believed he had a very bright future but I wasn't sure how good he'd be right away for the Texans. But Daniels is legit as a TE and Jones certainly looks like he's going to be legit so there are more weapons in the passing other than just Andre Johnson. The Texans have always run the ball well so that should provide plenty of offensive balance. I'm starting to lean more and more toward Schaub as being a solid QB2 this season. There's still some risk there given how he's never been a starter before but he could be a surprise guy who outkicks his ADP coverage.

 
I'm starting to lean more and more toward Schaub as being a solid QB2 this season. There's still some risk there given how he's never been a starter before but he could be a surprise guy who outkicks his ADP coverage.
I would be much more comfortable with Schaub as my #3 like the original post was stating. He may develop during the season to become a solid #2 but coming out of the draft I would rather have someone else as my #2.
 

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