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Kevin Jones NOT going on PUP (1 Viewer)

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Kevin Jones (Lisfranc foot surgery) will be on the active roster when the Lions begin the regular season.

A surgeon said Thursday that it would be fine for the Lions to expect Jones to contribute within the first six weeks of the season. It seems unlikely that he'll play in Week 1, but he'll likely be a starter by mid-season. Upgrade Jones about one round on your cheatsheets if you haven't drafted already. We'd guess that he'll be active and usable by Week 3 or 4.

 
Kevin Jones (Lisfranc foot surgery) will be on the active roster when the Lions begin the regular season.A surgeon said Thursday that it would be fine for the Lions to expect Jones to contribute within the first six weeks of the season. It seems unlikely that he'll play in Week 1, but he'll likely be a starter by mid-season. Upgrade Jones about one round on your cheatsheets if you haven't drafted already. We'd guess that he'll be active and usable by Week 3 or 4.
Do you have a link? Is this the official word from the team? It's unclear from the post.
 
I've already stepped on my #### with one of these today, so I'll go ahead and take this at face value.

Thanx for the heads up.

:confused:

 
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Lions RB Jones will be on roster, not sidelined 6 weeks

August 31, 2007

By NICHOLAS J. COTSONIKA

FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

Running back Kevin Jones will be on the active roster when the Lions announce their final cuts today, a person familiar with the situation said Friday night.

Jones has been on the physically unable to perform list with a foot injury, and the question was whether he would remain on the list to start the regular season, putting him out for at least the first six weeks.

Lions officials conferred with Jones’ surgeon Friday, and the surgeon cleared Jones to come off the PUP list, the person said. The Lions plan to take it slow with Jones, but they think they will need him within six weeks, the person said.

Team spokesman Bill Keenist did not confirm the information Friday night.

“We have nothing to announce regarding Kevin until tomorrow,” Keenist said.

Trying to score a touchdown Dec. 10 against Minnesota, Jones suffered a Lisfranc injury — a tearing of the tissues in the middle of his foot. He had surgery three days later.

Jones visited his surgeon, Dr. Bob Anderson, on Thursday in Charlotte, N.C. Anderson recommended Jones remain on the PUP list, according to another person familiar with the situation. Anderson felt the foot had healed well enough, but he was concerned Jones could suffer other injuries because he wasn’t in game shape, that person said.

While rehabbing the foot throughout the off-season, training camp and the exhibition season, Jones was unable to practice. Jones has been rehabbing and running on the side. He even tried an unconventional heat acupuncture therapy in an Asian man’s basement in Saline.

If the Lions had decided to keep Jones on the PUP list, he would not have counted against the 53-man roster. He would have been able to work out and rehab, but he would not have been able to practice or play for six weeks. Then the Lions would have had three weeks to return him to practice. Once he practiced, they would have had three weeks to put him on the active roster or injured reserve.

This might be the argument for putting him on the active roster: Jones’ foot isn’t the problem. He needs to practice so he can get into game shape. By putting him on the roster, he can practice as soon as he is ready to practice and play as soon as he is ready to play — whether that’s in Week 2, Week 4 or even Week 7. He will be back much earlier than he would be otherwise.

If Jones stayed on PUP, he wouldn’t have been able to just jump into the lineup as soon as he was eligible Oct. 21 against Tampa Bay. He would have had to practice for a while first.

It’s worth the roster spot, which would have been taken by a player who wouldn’t have been active on Sunday, anyway.
 
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now all the jones owners who were happy he was going on pup can be sad I guess :confused:

I can't belive the lions did something right for once.

 
Thanks for the info and the quote. This really makes a lot of sense. It sounded like his foot was fine and he just needed to get in football shape; can't do that on PUP. People who passed on KJ are going to regret it.

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Lions RB Jones will be on roster, not sidelined 6 weeks

August 31, 2007

By NICHOLAS J. COTSONIKA

FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

Running back Kevin Jones will be on the active roster when the Lions announce their final cuts today, a person familiar with the situation said Friday night.

Jones has been on the physically unable to perform list with a foot injury, and the question was whether he would remain on the list to start the regular season, putting him out for at least the first six weeks.

Lions officials conferred with Jones’ surgeon Friday, and the surgeon cleared Jones to come off the PUP list, the person said. The Lions plan to take it slow with Jones, but they think they will need him within six weeks, the person said.

Team spokesman Bill Keenist did not confirm the information Friday night.

“We have nothing to announce regarding Kevin until tomorrow,” Keenist said.

Trying to score a touchdown Dec. 10 against Minnesota, Jones suffered a Lisfranc injury — a tearing of the tissues in the middle of his foot. He had surgery three days later.

Jones visited his surgeon, Dr. Bob Anderson, on Thursday in Charlotte, N.C. Anderson recommended Jones remain on the PUP list, according to another person familiar with the situation. Anderson felt the foot had healed well enough, but he was concerned Jones could suffer other injuries because he wasn’t in game shape, that person said.

While rehabbing the foot throughout the off-season, training camp and the exhibition season, Jones was unable to practice. Jones has been rehabbing and running on the side. He even tried an unconventional heat acupuncture therapy in an Asian man’s basement in Saline.

If the Lions had decided to keep Jones on the PUP list, he would not have counted against the 53-man roster. He would have been able to work out and rehab, but he would not have been able to practice or play for six weeks. Then the Lions would have had three weeks to return him to practice. Once he practiced, they would have had three weeks to put him on the active roster or injured reserve.

This might be the argument for putting him on the active roster: Jones’ foot isn’t the problem. He needs to practice so he can get into game shape. By putting him on the roster, he can practice as soon as he is ready to practice and play as soon as he is ready to play — whether that’s in Week 2, Week 4 or even Week 7. He will be back much earlier than he would be otherwise.

If Jones stayed on PUP, he wouldn’t have been able to just jump into the lineup as soon as he was eligible Oct. 21 against Tampa Bay. He would have had to practice for a while first.

It’s worth the roster spot, which would have been taken by a player who wouldn’t have been active on Sunday, anyway.
 
I like it. Whether he would be on the PUP until week 7 or this news, it just reinforces the fact that Jones is close. At first I was happy (Jones owner in a few dynasty leagues) he was going on the PUP, but now I realize that he can practice in pads and get into football shape by not going on PUP, and I'm glad that Detroit feels they can keep an open roster spot for him. Looks like Tatum Bell owners will be scrambling to try to get the best deal they can, lol.

 
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I hope they don't rush him back.
I really don't think they will. If he had gone on PUP, he would not have been able to practice until after week 6, and they must think he will be able to practice sooner. If that's the case, add 3 weeks or so of practice and you would be looking at week 9.The Lions bye is in week 6. I personally think week 7 (game 6) is when they are hoping he plays. Hypothetically, maybe he is 2-3 weeks from practicing fully. That would give him 3-4 weeks of practice, which should be plenty. That is just my gut feeling.
 
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If ever there were a :angry: , this is it! Tatum better make the best of it in game 1 vs OAK, because after that, he faces some stingy run D's. His only 2 home games in the first 6 weeks are vs MIN and CHI.

 
Wow,

My draft from earlier today just took a turn for the better! Getting him in the 10th round of a 14-team draft can't be all bad! RB5.

Let's hope he recovers fully, regardless of my teams. :angry:

 
I hope they don't rush him back.
I really don't think they will. If he had gone on PUP, he would not have been able to practice until after week 6, and they must think he will be able to practice sooner. If that's the case, add 3 weeks or so of practice and you would be looking at week 9.The Lions bye is in week 6. I personally think week 7 (game 6) is when they are hoping he plays. Hypothetically, maybe he is 2-3 weeks from practicing fully. That would give him 3-4 weeks of practice, which should be plenty. That is just my gut feeling.
This post makes a lot of sense.
 
I like it. Whether he would be on the PUP until week 7 or this news, it just reinforces the fact that Jones is close. At first I was happy (Jones owner in a few dynasty leagues) he was going on the PUP, but now I realize that he can practice in pads and get into football shape by not going on PUP, and I'm glad that Detroit feels they can keep an open roster spot for him. Looks like Tatum Bell owners will be scrambling to try to get the best deal they can, lol.
sound to me like you're an optimist who'd put whatever kind of spin it took on whatever news came out to insure that you're "happy"... regardless of the actual facts of the situation.and NO, I do NOT own Tatum Bell in ANY league I participate in.
 
I like it. Whether he would be on the PUP until week 7 or this news, it just reinforces the fact that Jones is close. At first I was happy (Jones owner in a few dynasty leagues) he was going on the PUP, but now I realize that he can practice in pads and get into football shape by not going on PUP, and I'm glad that Detroit feels they can keep an open roster spot for him. Looks like Tatum Bell owners will be scrambling to try to get the best deal they can, lol.
:hophead: :lmao:
 
I think this eventually benefits the other players on offense the most. Kitna and the WRs will have a totally different dynamic offense once KJ is back. And even if he's not back to form he could give them a different look on 3rd downs until he's totally healthy.

As a Kitna owner in multiple leagues this is great news.

 
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Lions RB Jones will be on roster, not sidelined 6 weeks

August 31, 2007

By NICHOLAS J. COTSONIKA

FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

Running back Kevin Jones will be on the active roster when the Lions announce their final cuts today, a person familiar with the situation said Friday night.

Jones has been on the physically unable to perform list with a foot injury, and the question was whether he would remain on the list to start the regular season, putting him out for at least the first six weeks.

Lions officials conferred with Jones’ surgeon Friday, and the surgeon cleared Jones to come off the PUP list, the person said. The Lions plan to take it slow with Jones, but they think they will need him within six weeks, the person said.

Team spokesman Bill Keenist did not confirm the information Friday night.

“We have nothing to announce regarding Kevin until tomorrow,” Keenist said.

Trying to score a touchdown Dec. 10 against Minnesota, Jones suffered a Lisfranc injury — a tearing of the tissues in the middle of his foot. He had surgery three days later.

Jones visited his surgeon, Dr. Bob Anderson, on Thursday in Charlotte, N.C. Anderson recommended Jones remain on the PUP list, according to another person familiar with the situation. Anderson felt the foot had healed well enough, but he was concerned Jones could suffer other injuries because he wasn’t in game shape, that person said.

While rehabbing the foot throughout the off-season, training camp and the exhibition season, Jones was unable to practice. Jones has been rehabbing and running on the side. He even tried an unconventional heat acupuncture therapy in an Asian man’s basement in Saline.

If the Lions had decided to keep Jones on the PUP list, he would not have counted against the 53-man roster. He would have been able to work out and rehab, but he would not have been able to practice or play for six weeks. Then the Lions would have had three weeks to return him to practice. Once he practiced, they would have had three weeks to put him on the active roster or injured reserve.

This might be the argument for putting him on the active roster: Jones’ foot isn’t the problem. He needs to practice so he can get into game shape. By putting him on the roster, he can practice as soon as he is ready to practice and play as soon as he is ready to play — whether that’s in Week 2, Week 4 or even Week 7. He will be back much earlier than he would be otherwise.

If Jones stayed on PUP, he wouldn’t have been able to just jump into the lineup as soon as he was eligible Oct. 21 against Tampa Bay. He would have had to practice for a while first.

It’s worth the roster spot, which would have been taken by a player who wouldn’t have been active on Sunday, anyway.
Hoo boy. I was much happier when he went on the PUP (as a Bell/Jones owner).
 
So if the Lions start off 0-3 do they rush him back?0-4?
I don't think they did this to rush him back. I think they did it so he can practice when he is actually ready to practice...and it appears that will be before week 6. If they put him on PUP, he would not be able to practice until after week 6, thus likely not playing until week 8-9. The thoughts around here are that he will be able to practice within 2-3 weeks from now. I really think they want him to PLAY after their week 6 bye, whereas if they put him on PUP, that would have been when he could practice. While he could play before that, my personal opinion is that I don't think he will. The reason they are not putting him on PUP is because they think he will be able to practice a few weeks before coming off. But it doesn't mean he will play before then. The opinion about when he will actually play that I said above are mine. There has not been anything said here yet. As soon as I hear anything, I'll post it in here, although they may not say a whole lot.
 
Damn. I just cut him for Fatty White. Hmmmm

I wish we had a better feel for when he would be expected to start ie not just get a couple token carries.

 
Damn. I just cut him for Fatty White. HmmmmI wish we had a better feel for when he would be expected to start ie not just get a couple token carries.
You either play in a very small league or have very small rosters.
 
I agree with Anthony Borbelly. Regardless what the Lions do here, Jones hasn't fully practiced in quite some time. Running, cutting and catching balls off to the side is one thing; participating in full contact drills after missing minicamp, OTAs, training camp and the entire preseason quite another.

That said, should the Lions decide to keep Jones on the active roster, it's a good sign they believe he'll be ready sooner than later. However, if Tatum Bell is able to seize the opportunity presented to him and does well in this offense, which should be explosive, it's difficult to imagine the Lions rushing Jones back to action.

 
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He needs to strengthen the muscles not directly related to his foot, such as the calf, leg, hip, etc. That is why they want him on the active roster. He will need to practice a lot before he can play, and they don't think he needs to wait until after week 6 to start practicing...which is what would happen had he been placed on PUP.

This makes a lot of sense because he should be ready to practice long before he would be eligible to come off PUP. But I still don't think he plays before the week 6 bye.

 
Agree. That's what I mean - it's probably going to be hard (for DET and us) to get a good feel of when to expect him back and/or back as "the" RB.

 
I was listening to WDFN last night.

Millen and management do not want Jones to play now, they wanted him to start on PUP to get completely healed.

The coaching staff pushed hard to keep Jones active even if he does not play until the 5th or 6th game. So I would be very suprised in Jones plays at all the first month or even more.

 
After this last week, it seems only fitting that somebody other than Kowalski would break the big story! :lmao:

For a change, I think the Lions are making the right move here. Just because he's not on PUP, doesn't mean he'll play or practice. However, if things improve to the point that he is 100%, it makes little sense to have to hold your best rb out because of PUP rules. This allows him to go full speed whenever he's ready. At this point, KJ's biggest obstacle will probably be more mental than physical. Trusting your body after a major injury is not easy. Easing him into practice would certainly help get him into game shape and gradually begin to erase any doubts he may have.

On the dynasty front, does this mean the end of Brian Calhoun in Detroit?

 
I hope they don't rush him back.
I really don't think they will. If he had gone on PUP, he would not have been able to practice until after week 6, and they must think he will be able to practice sooner. If that's the case, add 3 weeks or so of practice and you would be looking at week 9.The Lions bye is in week 6.

I personally think week 7 (game 6) is when they are hoping he plays. Hypothetically, maybe he is 2-3 weeks from practicing fully. That would give him 3-4 weeks of practice, which should be plenty.

That is just my gut feeling.
Some great logic has gone into this post. :blackdot:
 
I was listening to WDFN last night.Millen and management do not want Jones to play now, they wanted him to start on PUP to get completely healed.The coaching staff pushed hard to keep Jones active even if he does not play until the 5th or 6th game. So I would be very suprised in Jones plays at all the first month or even more.
Well Millen and the Fords enough said. I trust the coaches more than the buffoons running the team.
 
He needs to strengthen the muscles not directly related to his foot, such as the calf, leg, hip, etc. That is why they want him on the active roster. He will need to practice a lot before he can play, and they don't think he needs to wait until after week 6 to start practicing...which is what would happen had he been placed on PUP. This makes a lot of sense because he should be ready to practice long before he would be eligible to come off PUP. But I still don't think he plays before the week 6 bye.
:blackdot:
 
I hope they don't rush him back.
I really don't think they will. If he had gone on PUP, he would not have been able to practice until after week 6, and they must think he will be able to practice sooner. If that's the case, add 3 weeks or so of practice and you would be looking at week 9.The Lions bye is in week 6.

I personally think week 7 (game 6) is when they are hoping he plays. Hypothetically, maybe he is 2-3 weeks from practicing fully. That would give him 3-4 weeks of practice, which should be plenty.

That is just my gut feeling.
Some great logic has gone into this post. :hophead:
:blackdot:
 
I hope they don't rush him back.
I really don't think they will. If he had gone on PUP, he would not have been able to practice until after week 6, and they must think he will be able to practice sooner. If that's the case, add 3 weeks or so of practice and you would be looking at week 9.The Lions bye is in week 6.

I personally think week 7 (game 6) is when they are hoping he plays. Hypothetically, maybe he is 2-3 weeks from practicing fully. That would give him 3-4 weeks of practice, which should be plenty.

That is just my gut feeling.
Some great logic has gone into this post. :hophead:
:blackdot:
 
wow, as a KJ owner, i am so glad i didnt rush out on the FBG news yesterday on KJ and overpay for Bell

 
I hope they don't rush him back.
I really don't think they will. If he had gone on PUP, he would not have been able to practice until after week 6, and they must think he will be able to practice sooner. If that's the case, add 3 weeks or so of practice and you would be looking at week 9.The Lions bye is in week 6.

I personally think week 7 (game 6) is when they are hoping he plays. Hypothetically, maybe he is 2-3 weeks from practicing fully. That would give him 3-4 weeks of practice, which should be plenty.

That is just my gut feeling.
Some great logic has gone into this post. :rolleyes:
:confused:
 
If the Lions do this, that's a HUGE plus for Jones. I've said all along what they do wiht him on teh PUP list is the real indication for how his foot is healed.

This is a great sign for Jones.

J

 
If the Lions do this, that's a HUGE plus for Jones. I've said all along what they do wiht him on teh PUP list is the real indication for how his foot is healed.

This is a great sign for Jones.

J
:confused: I think you need another cup of coffee Joe. :rolleyes:

 
I hope they don't rush him back.
I really don't think they will. If he had gone on PUP, he would not have been able to practice until after week 6, and they must think he will be able to practice sooner. If that's the case, add 3 weeks or so of practice and you would be looking at week 9.The Lions bye is in week 6.

I personally think week 7 (game 6) is when they are hoping he plays. Hypothetically, maybe he is 2-3 weeks from practicing fully. That would give him 3-4 weeks of practice, which should be plenty.

That is just my gut feeling.
Some great logic has gone into this post. :rolleyes:
:confused:
The lesson in all of this is NOT TO READ TOO MUCH INTO REPORTER"S COMMENTS. Kowalski has been saying Jones would be on PUP for months and never cites his sources. He may be a good reporter, but you just have to keep an open mind. On all the football sites it hasn't been "Will Jones go on PUP?" but "JONES IS GOING ON PUP." My guess is that people hear what they want to hear and then distort it out of proportion. You just can't believe everything you hear, positive or negative, and you have to take it all with a grain of salt. You don't rush out and drop KJ because of a report saying he might go on PUP nor do you unload Bell now if you own him.
 
Damn, I thought this was a done deal and he was already on the list for the regular season. With him on the PUP, he wasn't going to see the field for 2 full months and Tater was looking like a reliable fill in player through most of the bye weeks. :confused:

 
I hope they don't rush him back.
I really don't think they will. If he had gone on PUP, he would not have been able to practice until after week 6, and they must think he will be able to practice sooner. If that's the case, add 3 weeks or so of practice and you would be looking at week 9.The Lions bye is in week 6.

I personally think week 7 (game 6) is when they are hoping he plays. Hypothetically, maybe he is 2-3 weeks from practicing fully. That would give him 3-4 weeks of practice, which should be plenty.

That is just my gut feeling.
Some great logic has gone into this post. :rolleyes:
:confused:
The lesson in all of this is NOT TO READ TOO MUCH INTO REPORTER"S COMMENTS. Kowalski has been saying Jones would be on PUP for months and never cites his sources. He may be a good reporter, but you just have to keep an open mind. On all the football sites it hasn't been "Will Jones go on PUP?" but "JONES IS GOING ON PUP." My guess is that people hear what they want to hear and then distort it out of proportion. You just can't believe everything you hear, positive or negative, and you have to take it all with a grain of salt. You don't rush out and drop KJ because of a report saying he might go on PUP nor do you unload Bell now if you own him.
excellent post . . .

 
I hope they don't rush him back.
I really don't think they will. If he had gone on PUP, he would not have been able to practice until after week 6, and they must think he will be able to practice sooner. If that's the case, add 3 weeks or so of practice and you would be looking at week 9.The Lions bye is in week 6.

I personally think week 7 (game 6) is when they are hoping he plays. Hypothetically, maybe he is 2-3 weeks from practicing fully. That would give him 3-4 weeks of practice, which should be plenty.

That is just my gut feeling.
Some great logic has gone into this post. :thumbup:
:football:
The lesson in all of this is NOT TO READ TOO MUCH INTO REPORTER"S COMMENTS. Kowalski has been saying Jones would be on PUP for months and never cites his sources. He may be a good reporter, but you just have to keep an open mind. On all the football sites it hasn't been "Will Jones go on PUP?" but "JONES IS GOING ON PUP." My guess is that people hear what they want to hear and then distort it out of proportion. You just can't believe everything you hear, positive or negative, and you have to take it all with a grain of salt. You don't rush out and drop KJ because of a report saying he might go on PUP nor do you unload Bell now if you own him.
Hi az,I'd agree you always have to consider the source. But this game has evolved for some guys in really competitive leagues to become a race sometimes in getting the information before others.

If you were in a really deep league where every starting QB was valuable, getting the scoop here as we did yesterday from the poster about David Garrard is huge.

In deeper leagues, getting the jump on thinking Jones would go on the PUP or in this case, not go on the PUP list can be a huge advantage.

And that's a great point right there. It's no lock that Jones is going to be active. Cotsonika says he is. Kowalski said he wasn't. The Lions haven't said anything.

So running out and grabbing Jones right now is not much different than grabbing Bell was a couple of days ago. The team is almost always the last to report news. If you wait on official word for everything, you'll always miss out unless you play with guppies.

I've read Tom Kowalski's stuff for years and I trust the guy. When he reports something, I'm inclined to go with it. In the same light, I feel the same way about Cotsonika. If some guy I'd never read before was saying Jones would be on the PUP, that's an entirely different story.

So bottom lline I think is you have to consider the source and weigh the risks in acting on it.

J

 
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The confusing part to me is that KJ's surgeon recommended he go on PUP on Thursday...but declared him fit to come off PUP on Friday? WTF? Is this just a case of a doctor not understanding the PUP rules? Otherwise, this seems quite fishy to me...

Lions RB Jones will be on roster, not sidelined 6 weeks

August 31, 2007

By NICHOLAS J. COTSONIKA

FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

Running back Kevin Jones will be on the active roster when the Lions announce their final cuts today, a person familiar with the situation said Friday night.

Jones has been on the physically unable to perform list with a foot injury, and the question was whether he would remain on the list to start the regular season, putting him out for at least the first six weeks.

Lions officials conferred with Jones’ surgeon Friday, and the surgeon cleared Jones to come off the PUP list, the person said. The Lions plan to take it slow with Jones, but they think they will need him within six weeks, the person said.

Team spokesman Bill Keenist did not confirm the information Friday night.

“We have nothing to announce regarding Kevin until tomorrow,” Keenist said.

Trying to score a touchdown Dec. 10 against Minnesota, Jones suffered a Lisfranc injury — a tearing of the tissues in the middle of his foot. He had surgery three days later.

Jones visited his surgeon, Dr. Bob Anderson, on Thursday in Charlotte, N.C. Anderson recommended Jones remain on the PUP list, according to another person familiar with the situation. Anderson felt the foot had healed well enough, but he was concerned Jones could suffer other injuries because he wasn’t in game shape, that person said.

While rehabbing the foot throughout the off-season, training camp and the exhibition season, Jones was unable to practice. Jones has been rehabbing and running on the side. He even tried an unconventional heat acupuncture therapy in an Asian man’s basement in Saline.

If the Lions had decided to keep Jones on the PUP list, he would not have counted against the 53-man roster. He would have been able to work out and rehab, but he would not have been able to practice or play for six weeks. Then the Lions would have had three weeks to return him to practice. Once he practiced, they would have had three weeks to put him on the active roster or injured reserve.

This might be the argument for putting him on the active roster: Jones’ foot isn’t the problem. He needs to practice so he can get into game shape. By putting him on the roster, he can practice as soon as he is ready to practice and play as soon as he is ready to play — whether that’s in Week 2, Week 4 or even Week 7. He will be back much earlier than he would be otherwise.

If Jones stayed on PUP, he wouldn’t have been able to just jump into the lineup as soon as he was eligible Oct. 21 against Tampa Bay. He would have had to practice for a while first.

It’s worth the roster spot, which would have been taken by a player who wouldn’t have been active on Sunday, anyway.

 
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I added Jones in round 12 of a 10 team league last night and round 9 of a 14 team league because every site reported he was definitely going onthe PUP. But, this board was already questioning that by Thursday afternoon. If he stays off the PUP this board will have gotten me huge value.

Thanks to all.

 

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