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Morency now listed as Packers' starting RB on official depth chart (1 Viewer)

Interesting. This doesn't surprise me because Jackson did not distinguish himself despite significant opportunity to do so. Lots of roster issues in the NFL that are not real clear yet; hopefully, they will be after week 1.

 
I've been targeting Morency in each draft as a mid rounder with some decent upside. This news isn't going to help in my upcoming drafts.

 
IMO this is a nod to the vet...I forsee RBBC for the time being
I think so as well until one guy distinguishes himself. In light of the up-in-the-air situation, I'm also keeping an eye on DeShawn Wynn as a potential flier.
 
I thought (not 100% sure) that Morency would have a limited role, if any, in week 1. Anyone know more?

I can't believe Morency will start when he hasn't practiced and is definitely not in game shape yet.

 
I thought (not 100% sure) that Morency would have a limited role, if any, in week 1. Anyone know more?I can't believe Morency will start when he hasn't practiced and is definitely not in game shape yet.
I guess part of that is dependent on Jacksons status. If he's still feeling effects from the concussion (haven't followed his status that closely) the Packers don't really have a choice. Everyone else is pretty much hurt or is terrible.
 
Packers: Running out of options

By JASON WILDE

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jwilde@madison.com

GREEN BAY - How muddled is the Green Bay Packers' running back situation one week from the start of the regular season? Let Ted Thompson count the ways - or at least healthy possibilities.

After getting more bad news about the health of one of his running backs - third-down back Noah Herron, who was placed on season-ending injured reserve Sunday following arthroscopic knee surgery - the Packers general manager was asked how many healthy running backs he thought he would have for next Sunday's regular-season opener against the Philadelphia Eagles at Lambeau Field.

''We've had so many changes, I've got to think this through. ...'' Thompson said. Then, he began counting, ''One ... two ...''

The truth is, at this point, the Packers simply don't know.

Vernand Morency, who came into camp atop the depth chart but suffered a strained patellar tendon in his right knee in the July 28 camp-opening practice, took part in the jog-through and individual drills during Sunday's practice, but how much he'll be able to do against the Eagles is unclear.

Rookie second-round pick Brandon Jackson, who started the first three preseason games before missing the finale with a concussion suffered in practice Aug. 26, was fully cleared and went through all of Sunday's practice, proclaiming himself ready to start afterward.

Rookie seventh-round pick DeShawn Wynn, who missed most of camp with a thigh injury but came back to play in the preseason finale at Tennessee last Thursday, made the roster but got a stern warning not to get comfortable.

And Ryan Grant, acquired in a trade with the New York Giants during Saturday's final cuts, arrived and practiced but has a lot of catching up to do.

''We have a plan,'' Packers coach Mike McCarthy said. ''We will use them in combination. We've talked about (running back by) committee from day one. It's now time to put the committee into play.''

At this point, Jackson appears likely to start against the Eagles, while McCarthy should know more about Morency's status after the team practices today and Wednesday.

''I'm feeling better,'' said Jackson, who rushed for 131 yards on 40 carries during the preseason. ''It was nice to get out there and run around and practice, basically. I would love to start, I would love to take the reps, but I feel like that's up to Coach.''

Herron suffered his knee injury during Thursday night's preseason finale - a game he started with Morency and Jackson out - but neither Herron nor the team thought it was serious at the time. Then, when team physician Pat McKenzie performed arthroscopic surgery on the knee Saturday, further damage was discovered.

Thompson wouldn't divulge the specifics of the damage but said the doctors ''didn't think there was any way we'd get him back before the bye, and we just didn't have the luxury of being able to do that.'' The Packers' bye week is Oct. 21, after six games, meaning Herron likely tore the MCL and meniscus in his knee.

''That put us in a real bind,'' Thompson said.

Thompson said he expects Morency to be cleared to play against the Eagles, but Morency was guarded about whether he'll be ready to go.

''Because Noah got hurt, that doesn't mean my knee got better,'' Morency said. ''I can't be myself if I'm not able to do the things they brought me in to do. I'm working hard. I can tell you that. I'm trying to get out there as soon as possible.''

Grant, who finished the preseason with 90 yards on 18 carries with the Giants, arrived in time to practice with the Packers on Sunday and spent much of the day with running backs coach Edgar Bennett trying to learn the offense.

''Hopefully, it's not too much of a crash course. I feel like I can pick up things pretty quickly,'' said Grant, whom the Packers acquired for a future draft pick - one that Thompson said is not conditional, meaning they'll have to send it to the Giants regardless of how many games Grant plays. ''They threw me in the fire in practice, and I told them, 'Don't worry about me getting burned. That's how I've got to learn.'''

Wynn, meanwhile, said Thompson and McCarthy made it clear to him that his roster spot is tenuous.

''Basically, (they said) I've got to prove myself and work hard, and if they see any decline in my work ethic or my mentality, I probably won't be here long,'' said Wynn, who rushed 21 times for 54 yards against Tennessee. ''Some people may feel like I don't deserve to be on the 53-man roster. The message is pretty much to earn my keep.''

While the position would appear just as clouded as it was entering camp, Thompson maintained the stance he's held throughout: He's not concerned.

''We don't worry about things like that,'' Thompson said. ''It is what it is. Everybody has injuries and we've had our share at that position during training camp, but time marches on, so you have to keep going at it.

''We'd have liked for our whole group to be able to compete from day one, and we felt like we'd have a pretty good group at the end of it. That didn't happen. But at the end of the day, we feel pretty good about this group.''
http://www.madison.com/wsj/home/sports/pac...php?ntid=213598
 
I hope Favre has been doing his stretching exercises. With that running game, he's going to be chucking the ball a ton.

 
Where are all the Jackson lovers?

Anyone who followed the Packers even a little last year knew Morency has the skills to be their starter. Jackson was drafted as insurance, and competition. But he was in no way guaranteed the job as many around here assumed. And if you followed his college career, it was pretty evident he was barely borderline starter talent for the NFL.

So while many will say this is just due to BJax concussion, reality is, Morency is the better RB.

Could Jackson still beat him out eventually? Sure. Jackson is more powerful inside, and is younger. Plus Morency has had fumbling issues in the past.

 
I hope Favre has been doing his stretching exercises. With that running game, he's going to be chucking the ball a ton.
that's what I was thinking as well. They will be lucky to get 50 yards on the ground so Favre will have to air it out if they have any hope against Philly.
 
Where are all the Jackson lovers?Anyone who followed the Packers even a little last year knew Morency has the skills to be their starter. Jackson was drafted as insurance, and competition. But he was in no way guaranteed the job as many around here assumed. And if you followed his college career, it was pretty evident he was barely borderline starter talent for the NFL.So while many will say this is just due to BJax concussion, reality is, Morency is the better RB.Could Jackson still beat him out eventually? Sure. Jackson is more powerful inside, and is younger. Plus Morency has had fumbling issues in the past.
I'm a Jackson lover. I don't think I ever said he would be ready week 1 of his rookie year. He came out as a junior and only say a lot of action in one year. Anyone expecting him to be great this year has unreasonable expectations. But 2008-2009? I think he'll be a solid NFL starter.
 
Jackson was drafted to be the starter. He's the guy the Packers want to take the starting job and run with it. But he had a bad camp and didn't play very well and then got hurt so now the plan has been muddied. I've said all along I believe the only chance Morency has to start is if Jackson flops or gets hurt. Well he's done both so this is Morency's chance. I don't believe he'll start this week - I think Jackson will be the official "starter" - but the door is wide open now and if Morency plays well he could take the starting job. Whether he can keep it is another question.

This is the mess Thompson created and it's one that could very well undercut the Packers' season.

 
The bigger question to everyone...Does anyone really see top10 potential this season from either one of these RB? Serviceable as an RB3/4 or bye week filler is the best I would think you can hope for. Nothing you can count on every week.

 
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I sure hope Morency is ready to play. Green Bay will need all the help they can get to have any kind of chance this week.

 
This is the mess Thompson created and it's one that could very well undercut the Packers' season.
This is such a load of crap. Can we have a thread where Thompson doesn't get bashed? The guy spent three draft picks on running backs this year. Plus he traded for one last year. Can we stop with the BS about him doing nothing to help the RB situation. Please.Or are you telling me that Thompson was behind Morency's knee injury, Jackson's concussion, Herron's knee injury, and PJ Pope's knee injury? I mean, if that's the case, you know the guy hit them all with a pipe or something, then yeah, it's Thompson's fault.
 
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The bigger question to everyone...Does anyone really see top10 potential this season from either one of these RB? Serviceable as an RB3/4 or bye week filler is the best I would think you can hope for. Nothing you can count on every week.
No. Not right now anyway. Possibly top 20 later in the season if one can pull away from the other. But I'm not expecting much of a running game until week 6 and then after the bye.
 
This is the mess Thompson created and it's one that could very well undercut the Packers' season.
This is such a load of crap. Can we have a thread where Thompson doesn't get bashed? The guy spent three draft picks on running backs this year. Plus he traded for one last year. Can we stop with the BS about him doing nothing to help the RB situation. Please.
There's a difference between making moves and making the right moves. I like Morency but I hardly view him as a 20-25 carry a game RB. The questions about Jackson have been well documented. It's one thing to go out and acquire five running backs; it's quite another to find the one (or two) who will be the anchor of your team's running game.The running game is BY FAR the biggest question mark surrounding the Packers this season. Nothing else comes close. Given the massive questions that surround the running game, it's more than fair to question the moves made by the person who assembled the RB corps.

 
Serviceable as an RB3/4 or bye week filler is the best I would think you can hope for. Nothing you can count on every week.
Agreed. It's a highly suspect group and when you combine that with a very difficult schedule you'll have to be a very brave person in my opinion to rely on the Green Bay RB situation this season.
 
The bigger question to everyone...Does anyone really see top10 potential this season from either one of these RB? Serviceable as an RB3/4 or bye week filler is the best I would think you can hope for. Nothing you can count on every week.
IMO we focus too much on the top 10 guys. The way I see it, the top 10 are pretty easy - at least the pre-season top 10 are. FF games are won and lost w/ RB 10-30, WR 20-40, etc. It's about bench and depth for bye-week fill-in and injury protection, and also to play match-ups with. more importantly, it's about filling in the last flex position.Serviceable RB3/4 can be the difference between a loser and a winner.
 
Serviceable as an RB3/4 or bye week filler is the best I would think you can hope for. Nothing you can count on every week.
Agreed. It's a highly suspect group and when you combine that with a very difficult schedule you'll have to be a very brave person in my opinion to rely on the Green Bay RB situation this season.
I doubt anyone drafted any of these guys with the intent of relying on them, but it'd be nice to know if you could if you had to.
 
Was Morency ever NOT the starter? Seems like alot of Brandon Jackson rookie-hype around here like we've seen in the past (Eric Shelton, JJ Arrington etc.)

Saw alot of Brandon Jackson going at #4 in dynasty leagues, which puzzled me. Over Quinn, Russell, Bowe, Gonzalez, the Jones boys etc? :thumbup:

 
Serviceable as an RB3/4 or bye week filler is the best I would think you can hope for. Nothing you can count on every week.
Agreed. It's a highly suspect group and when you combine that with a very difficult schedule you'll have to be a very brave person in my opinion to rely on the Green Bay RB situation this season.
I doubt anyone drafted any of these guys with the intent of relying on them, but it'd be nice to know if you could if you had to.
I agree. However, this looks like it will be a full-blown RBBC situation so picking the right guy from week to week could be extremely difficult (barring an injury). And again, the Packers have a tough schedule which only serves to compound the issue. I'm just not sure you'll be able to rely on them for any consistent period of time due to those two factors. As a Packers fan I hope I'm wrong and one or both Jackson and Morency look like gangbusters but I'm highly skeptical. Of the two, I think Morency is the superior talent but I don't view him as a feature RB in this league. I do think he could deliver 4-5 games of solid RB3 production but the issue is being able to predict when those 4-5 games will occur.
 
I'm in the Morency camp since the begining. It is my belief that he could have played through the patella tendointis, but the Packers wanted to see if Jackson could handle a full load and failed. Sure Jackson will get a split, but I think a majority goes to Morency.

 
Serviceable as an RB3/4 or bye week filler is the best I would think you can hope for. Nothing you can count on every week.
Agreed. It's a highly suspect group and when you combine that with a very difficult schedule you'll have to be a very brave person in my opinion to rely on the Green Bay RB situation this season.
It also depends on whether or not this will be a true RBBC. If one of them really impresses and starts getting 60-70% of the carries, I could easily see him as a RB2/3. The offensive line looked much better than expected last year, and there's every reason to expect that this young unit will continue to improve.
 
The bigger question to everyone...Does anyone really see top10 potential this season from either one of these RB? Serviceable as an RB3/4 or bye week filler is the best I would think you can hope for. Nothing you can count on every week.
IMO we focus too much on the top 10 guys. The way I see it, the top 10 are pretty easy - at least the pre-season top 10 are. FF games are won and lost w/ RB 10-30, WR 20-40, etc. It's about bench and depth for bye-week fill-in and injury protection, and also to play match-ups with. more importantly, it's about filling in the last flex position.Serviceable RB3/4 can be the difference between a loser and a winner.
:thumbup:

Great post. When my 4/5th RB is Morency and I'm starting him against your Heath Evans... yeah I'm OK with that.

Now I own Morency, but no, I'm not counting on him carrying my team. Anyone who drafted him (or Jackson for that matter) for anything more than a bye-week/injury fill-in has set their expectations WAAAAAY too high.

 
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Was Morency ever NOT the starter? Seems like alot of Brandon Jackson rookie-hype around here like we've seen in the past (Eric Shelton, JJ Arrington etc.)

Saw alot of Brandon Jackson going at #4 in dynasty leagues, which puzzled me. Over Quinn, Russell, Bowe, Gonzalez, the Jones boys etc? :bag:
Not all leagues are set up the same. I would still take Jackson #4 in my dynasty league (if I had that pick), because he was the least likely to fall. Rookie QBs always do, and WRs were a dime a dozen this year.
 
The bigger question to everyone...Does anyone really see top10 potential this season from either one of these RB? Serviceable as an RB3/4 or bye week filler is the best I would think you can hope for. Nothing you can count on every week.
IMO we focus too much on the top 10 guys. The way I see it, the top 10 are pretty easy - at least the pre-season top 10 are. FF games are won and lost w/ RB 10-30, WR 20-40, etc. It's about bench and depth for bye-week fill-in and injury protection, and also to play match-ups with. more importantly, it's about filling in the last flex position.Serviceable RB3/4 can be the difference between a loser and a winner.
:boxing:
 
Was Morency ever NOT the starter? Seems like alot of Brandon Jackson rookie-hype around here like we've seen in the past (Eric Shelton, JJ Arrington etc.)

Saw alot of Brandon Jackson going at #4 in dynasty leagues, which puzzled me. Over Quinn, Russell, Bowe, Gonzalez, the Jones boys etc? :lmao:
Not all leagues are set up the same. I would still take Jackson #4 in my dynasty league (if I had that pick), because he was the least likely to fall. Rookie QBs always do, and WRs were a dime a dozen this year.
I know... QBs and WR fall, because people reach for RBs.
 
The bigger question to everyone...Does anyone really see top10 potential this season from either one of these RB? Serviceable as an RB3/4 or bye week filler is the best I would think you can hope for. Nothing you can count on every week.
IMO we focus too much on the top 10 guys. The way I see it, the top 10 are pretty easy - at least the pre-season top 10 are. FF games are won and lost w/ RB 10-30, WR 20-40, etc. It's about bench and depth for bye-week fill-in and injury protection, and also to play match-ups with. more importantly, it's about filling in the last flex position.Serviceable RB3/4 can be the difference between a loser and a winner.
:lmao:
The question is whether anyone in the Green Bay backfield can or will emerge as serviceable. Playing a guessing game or hoping from week to week that Jackson and/or Morency emerges is a good way to ensure your roster has a glaring hole in whatever spot you're using them for. That's the problem with a RBBC in general, but it becomes an even bigger problem when there are talent issues (and possibly severe ones) with the RBs in question.
 
Morency will get the majority of the time. Why?

He knows how to block. Jackson does not (yet).

Can't block, can't play for the packers.

Until he can pick up the blitz, Jackson will be limited to a few carries, unless the packers get a lead and then go to the run to finish out the game.

 
Morency will get the majority of the time. Why?He knows how to block.
Morency isn't anything special as a blocker. The word McCarthy used to describe his blocking was "OK." The best RB on the team in terms of blitz pickups was Herron. But he's gone for the season.
 
Morency will get the majority of the time. Why?He knows how to block. Jackson does not (yet).Can't block, can't play for the packers.Until he can pick up the blitz, Jackson will be limited to a few carries, unless the packers get a lead and then go to the run to finish out the game.
Is this really still an issue? I haven't seen any reports about it since the second week of camp, nor did it appear to be a problem in the limited game-time I saw during the pre-season.
 
I'm in the Morency camp since the begining. It is my belief that he could have played through the patella tendointis, but the Packers wanted to see if Jackson could handle a full load and failed. Sure Jackson will get a split, but I think a majority goes to Morency.
:confused: (I think)....
 
This is the mess Thompson created and it's one that could very well undercut the Packers' season.
This is such a load of crap. Can we have a thread where Thompson doesn't get bashed? The guy spent three draft picks on running backs this year. Plus he traded for one last year. Can we stop with the BS about him doing nothing to help the RB situation. Please.
There's a difference between making moves and making the right moves. I like Morency but I hardly view him as a 20-25 carry a game RB. The questions about Jackson have been well documented. It's one thing to go out and acquire five running backs; it's quite another to find the one (or two) who will be the anchor of your team's running game.The running game is BY FAR the biggest question mark surrounding the Packers this season. Nothing else comes close. Given the massive questions that surround the running game, it's more than fair to question the moves made by the person who assembled the RB corps.
:lmao: He spent 3 draft picks, including a second, on RBs and still didn't get the RB position solidified. Tennessee did the same with their second round pick and that did nothing for them.

Maybe Michael Turner isn't that great and maybe he doesn't fit the system, but I would personally have gone after him instead of spending 3 picks on rookie RBs, etc. Maybe you spend a little bit more, i.e. your 1st round pick, but get the position solidified. They would have been able to use their 2nd round pick on something else and maybe also the other 2 picks as well. Getting a guy in his prime of NFL experience to match with Favre would be better IMHO than getting a bunch of rookies to hope that they get up to speed fast enough before Favre hits the road. Based on all the talk of their defense doing well, being 8-8 last year, having Jennings healthy and another WR in Jones, I think with Turner they have a very good shot at the playoffs.

 
This is the mess Thompson created and it's one that could very well undercut the Packers' season.
This is such a load of crap. Can we have a thread where Thompson doesn't get bashed? The guy spent three draft picks on running backs this year. Plus he traded for one last year. Can we stop with the BS about him doing nothing to help the RB situation. Please.
There's a difference between making moves and making the right moves. I like Morency but I hardly view him as a 20-25 carry a game RB. The questions about Jackson have been well documented. It's one thing to go out and acquire five running backs; it's quite another to find the one (or two) who will be the anchor of your team's running game.The running game is BY FAR the biggest question mark surrounding the Packers this season. Nothing else comes close. Given the massive questions that surround the running game, it's more than fair to question the moves made by the person who assembled the RB corps.
:thumbup: He spent 3 draft picks, including a second, on RBs and still didn't get the RB position solidified. Tennessee did the same with their second round pick and that did nothing for them.
The position isn't 'solidified' because the four top guys all suffered injuries. If you saw that coming, more power to you. You can question the guys he brought in if you'd like. That's fine. But the fact is, the top four guys they were counting on at RB all got hurt. Period. That has nothing to do with Thompson. He brought in guys he thought could help, and because of injury, we don't know if that's the case or not.
 
Jackson was drafted to be the starter. He's the guy the Packers want to take the starting job and run with it.
Ummm... nope.
Based on all the conversations I've had with people who either work in the organization or are close to it the answer is yes. You're free to disagree. That's cool.
If that's true that's a big lack of judgement on the Packers part IMO. I can understand if they liked what they saw in Morency last year and thought he would be a decent replacement for A. Green but to plan to turn over the reigns to a guy who's had a spotty college track record is taking a huge leap of faith at a very important position.
 
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This is the mess Thompson created and it's one that could very well undercut the Packers' season.
This is such a load of crap. Can we have a thread where Thompson doesn't get bashed? The guy spent three draft picks on running backs this year. Plus he traded for one last year. Can we stop with the BS about him doing nothing to help the RB situation. Please.
The running game is BY FAR the biggest question mark surrounding the Packers this season. Nothing else comes close.
Atari Bigby down?
 
Jackson was drafted to be the starter. He's the guy the Packers want to take the starting job and run with it.
Ummm... nope.
Based on all the conversations I've had with people who either work in the organization or are close to it the answer is yes. You're free to disagree. That's cool.
I love the "inside info" card... but I'll disagree.
Not trying to talk big or out of my a**; just trying to show that my opinions about this don't just come from my own thoughts or beliefs but rather from conversations I've had with the folks mentioned above. I've posted here for a few years and I hardly post BS info so take that for what it's worth.
Yeah, that Super Bowl run is pretty much out the window now, huh?
Hell, I'd consider 8-8 a success given the talent issues and the schedule. The sad thing is the conference is so wide open it wouldn't take much to get to the playoffs. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening. Hope I'm wrong, but I think a winning season is a pipe dream and I'm not sure 8-8 is a good possibility either.
 

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